They won't do that. Their agenda is the destruction on the UK and the rest of the first world. They want to make it another 3rd world country with an Allah-fearing population that is easy to control via religion because robots will replace humans in the very near future.
Totally clueless. They thought they could just decide that 80% of people WILL buy ev's as if we're just going to fall in line. The whole thing is absurd
it's happening that in many places the accommodation industry has simply gone cashless, they only accept cards or advance payments via booking. and then what if you happen to be somewhere like that and have to sleep there for whatever reason? it's very easy. and people simply go along with this. i had a painful wakeup in berlin where i was lucky they let me nap on the couch in the reception of the 3rd hostel i tried late that january evening. eventually i found a place where i could pay in cash. it's wild. i was so fed up i left the next day. and mind you it's a city with atms everywhere
The government really are flogging a dead horse with these EVs. They're a product nobody wants or needs, being sold at a price most people can't afford. Genius.
i said it years ago.. the consumer decides. not the company nor politics. people need to understand that its our workforce and money that has the power to make decisions. we are not weak nor powerless. They just want us to think that. Mercedes also reverted their decision to give the C63 AMG a 4 cylinder engine.
it's happening that in many places the accommodation industry has simply gone cashless, they only accept cards or advance payments via booking. and then what if you happen to be somewhere like that and have to sleep there for whatever reason? it's very easy. and people simply go along with this. i had a painful wakeup in berlin where i was lucky they let me nap on the couch in the reception of the 3rd hostel i tried late that january evening. eventually i found a place where i could pay in cash. it's wild. i was so fed up i left the next day. and mind you it's a city with atms everywhere. oh and i paid double that i would in a cashless hostel, 25 €
I have owned multiple Porsche’s and was asked (23 July) for my opinion to the Taycan (EV) … my reply was I’d rather walk!!! Und Guten Tag BMW meine neue Freunde
Fiat, Porsche, VW, they keep coming with their admissions that they can't sell them and they're worried for the future of their business enough to start the ball rolling to kill the 'no choice' option
@@superloopy24v The whole concept has been rushed through . The prices are mind blowing for the ordinary people who are even paying double for the weekly shop and rent
@@roysimpson9711 Too right, my personal example is that I am a low mileage user of a vehicle that can't justify new car prices, especially for the type of car I like, (sporty discreet...ish saloons). No way I could justify new electric if I wanted and could afford one at the even higher price. Also I can't do all my own servicing and repairs on one to save money either, (as I do now), so that adds even more to the cost. I have no interest in servicing debt for a car that does little mileage and buying a used EV with the high risk battery life/cost. I hear that about doubling of the grocery shop cost too! It's ridiculous how this has got so bad.
I spoke to a tard who traded his 992 for a gaycan, couldn't believe the no brainer that the stealership offered him the price he paid for the 992 trade in after 2 years.
I don't even want a new petrol car. Very happy with my 1981 Triumph Acclaim. No electronics on it, not even an ECU. It's faultlessly reliable, and gets 50 mpg. Why would I change?
Has anyone noticed the recent appearance of TV adverts for electric vans? Could it possibly be because the take up is only around 5 to 6% because, quite simply, most trades people don't want them.
Could it be because an electric van is even worse than an electric car, re range anxiety and electric lorries would be even worse than that..............total madness!
Said this many times ages ago, the big manufacturers will say all the rights things to avoid penalties and receive subsides and benefits, but behind the scenes they will keep their options open. Then when it’s obvious that EVs are a disaster they will announce that they will have to ‘reluctantly’ reduce/end EV production and revert to ice engines in order to stop the company from going bust, because they have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to protect the company.
I said from the start when all the makers said they were only going to make electric models that some of them would suddenly make a sharp u-turn when the date was reached and sales stopped. The only firm that made it clear they knew the future was not electric and would not commit was Hyundai / Kia. Looks like the rest are now realising the dark reality of the future.
Yep same here. was saying the same thing. They will play the game, say all the right things to avoid penalties and gain subsidies, while at the same time will keep their options open. Then later when they have evidence that total EVs ain’t going to work they will go back to ice engines saying that they have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to protect the company from going bust.
Geoff we are not paying the government to promote EVs the WEF is. As dim as they are they will sell their grandmother for a profit. Look at Spurgeon where the hell did £2 million come from. Then the cheeky mare knicked the party camper van😂 ❤
There wouldn't be an EV market without government interference, no "green taxes" for less than "green" projects. No record energy prices! Governments should not get involved in almost any commercial decisions!
Why has it taken so long for auto-manufacturers to Just Say No ? They employ 10's of thousands of people, both direct and indirect. They are gifting an entire industry to CYhina ... how do they think that ends !?!
Its even funnier than that cos these cars are just gonna pile up at ports all over the world. We havent seen anything yet. There will possibly be a grey imports market of (cough) 'slightly used' RH drive I.C.E. cars appearing.
EV,s are only good enough for the good old milkman in the early hours, if your lucky enough to have a milkman 😬 PS Shortage of aluminium? I thought it rained aluminium ✈️🛩
It'll be a bit expensive to install the magnet tracks in all the roads, but the cooling for the superconductor might be doable with enough power - bonus points for using dry ice to make a trail of cool fog behind your car!
@@C.I... don’t need that they have the proper equipment and knowledge for free energy ie free electricity and our freedoms of travel they want us enslaved unto the so called elites
When Keir Starmer and Sadiq Khan sell their Range Rover V8 Diesel’s and buy an electric car I’ll think about it. What’s the point in electric cars when zero emission synthetic fuel are available one day
Here in Finland carbon neutral synthetic diesel is already available on a large scale with some caveats, it can’t be found in the smaller gas stations and only the company Neste makes it. It is also more expensive than regular diesel,but it runs on all existing diesel engines since its chemical compound is identical to fossil diesel
Geoff all day i have been in the garden and watched the planes fly over, only three had trails, they were high up and they disappeared before the planes went out of site. Three o'clock the sky was clear blue beautiful.. I was having tea at 5.30 looking out noticed trails so went outside to look, there were trails all over going in all directions these spread out wide and went from complete view in both directions. I did see one plane doing a trail on a north to south direction which stayed and widened over us heading to the East. They turned a blue sky into a mess of grey and blanked the sun out eventually. I even wished the aircraft would blow up. Who the frig is doing this and who is allowing and paying for it.😠😠😠
Porsche: Our production line is equally efficient for EV, Hybrid and ICE cars. - because your tooling is so efficient? Porsche: No, because we can't make either without Aluminium.
There is a market for EVs, but it isn't the luxury or sports car market. It's the 2 car family that have a second, small car for local shopping trips and school runs. They also need a space where they can charge at home and not be taxed for having a driveway instead of a front lawn (that needs watering and isn't all that environmentally friendly).
I've been thinking about it and the perfect EV is either an old Leaf that's used only for local errands or a Rolls Royce Spectre, where electrification suits the goals of ultra luxury. In both cases the owner is going to have another car to take on a wider breadth of duties, so the message there is that the best EV is only good as a 2nd vehicle.
You assumption that EVs are only for use as a "second car" for local shopping trips etc, is way off the mark, as virtually all EV owners I've spoken to, use their EV (their only vehicle) just like they used their ICE cars, my Mini Cooper Electric, replaced my old Mini Cooper ICE, and I do more long distance drives in my Mini Cooper Electric, than I did with my Mini Cooper ICE.
@@Shadrach666"BIG DEAL???" I drove my Mini Cooper Electric from London to Lands End and back in one day, (690 miles) to get to Lands End from London, (280 miles) it only required 40 mins of en route charging and NONE of that time was wasted time either, (toilet, food, coffee, tourist, shopping breaks), I did Stonehenge, Dartmoor, Tintagel Castle, Mousehole and Lands Ends, then from Lands End to London, only requiring 40 mins of en route charging, (don't forget that virtually all other EVs have got DOUBLE the 145 mile range as my Mini Cooper Electric), when I got home I just thought to myself, "I've done a bit of a journey and NOT funded that vile Saudi Arabian regime one bit, as they use that money raised by selling their oil products, to fund Mosque building here in the UK, to promote the spread of Islam" so after you filled up, did you think, "I hope that Saudi Arabian regime, doesn't fund building a Mosque in the next street to me, with MY money too", ICE = funding of a 6th Century CULT from the Dark Ages and THAT is as OBSOLETE as it can ever get.
Any updates regarding the new EV Macan? Is it actually on sale yet? How many preorders? If you could get one for 30K this time next year I still wouldn’t!
Why would you need a car, when your only trip will be a short walk to your local mosque when you hear the call to prayer living in your 15 minute city.
3:36 UK Lost a number of Aluminium plants over the years due to the UKs very high electric price, caused by our renewables and lack of Nuclear, or Coal.
The stupid thing is if manufacturers had not charged outrageous prices for EVs and Government hadn’t decided to force people into them it’s likely they would have been more successful. I seriously think they have a place, if you live in a city have your own drive and commute around 20 miles a day they make some kind of sense. That said, I’m happy to keep driving my Jeep 2.8 crd for some time to come!!😉😉
Indeed, each off shore wind turbine has a concrete base 100m wide and 30m deep. Installation destroys the seabed and the sea life which is the food whales eat.
I think Lee should create a custom car like we did last century by shoe-horning in a big FO V8, V12 or flat 12 and ditching the food blender motor. It would be unique and set a precedent.
Yep. But they are so damn arrogant and we are so blindly obedient that we let them get away with it. Should have told them to kindly 'fook off' from the start
A idea for a video Geoff how many cars could you buy with the money, Lee has lost on his lump of 💩 the only rule is you have to spend, what you normally do on a car 👍
The big problem with "performance" EVs like Porsche is that you simply can't make an easy comparison. No EV handles, because they're all so heavy. They all accelerate well. So the only way to tell the difference is range... That's not really a performance thing. Diesel trucks have amazing range.
I love ev's around town. They are smooth, quiet and nice to drive. Of course any time you want to go far they drop on their backside and thats ignoring the silly prices, lack of fire mitigation and all the rest. What I don't understand is why ev's are considered at all? Once you have a plug-in hybrid which can do all the town stuff on electric you're good. Ev's offer little or no gain on a run and require a massive amount of resources to make - along with the infrastructure requirements. A plug-in does everything an ev does but with 1/4 or less of the battery, usually far less weight (always far less when you take range into account), no need to rip half the country up for new cables and no huge cost looming when the battery gets past its age. There is literally no gain to a long range ev over a plug-in.
Add, not replace. Sort the infrastructure. Sort the source of the juice. Then make them much less complex and therefore cheaper. Unfortunately they all went to compete with Tesla instead of doing their own thing. Big, heavy, complicated, expensive and frankly too fast for the public roads. Wakey Wakey.
Apart from range anxiety, who wants to have a more expensive electric vehicle and make a huge loss on its resale - surely that will affect business sales too, eventually?
That was convenient… the flooded supplier gets complete disclosure of their predicament by their customer so their customer can avoid admitting their error on going large on EVs.
By the way Jeffrey my son that was defo one of the best suggestions I've fekin heard like on these ev shit boxes , it would make a great experiment to put the likes of the Vauxhall corsa or fiat 500 models lined up next to each other on the garage forecourts starting with the diesel model next to the petrol model to the elecky one and all at exactly the same price and see what happens, I think we all know what shit would be left sitting there eh 🤪
The less electronics we buy the better. I don’t want any new electronics with computerisation. Look at what happened with that outage. Banks and shops were stopped in their tracks. We need more than one energy source.
Moral of the story. If you happen to be a succesful and well respected car company, maybe let your customers determine your products and not fickle, self interested governement policy.
They finally learnt what we've known for ages,EVs are not the future
Well ....As The Classic Saying Goes 'Not If You've Got a Tesla' 🤓
as well as my arse 🤣
Open our coal mines.
In Australia it's stop selling all our coal to China. Even if they open the mines there's no guarantee you will benefit.
They won't do that. Their agenda is the destruction on the UK and the rest of the first world. They want to make it another 3rd world country with an Allah-fearing population that is easy to control via religion because robots will replace humans in the very near future.
Totally clueless. They thought they could just decide that 80% of people WILL buy ev's as if we're just going to fall in line. The whole thing is absurd
it's happening that in many places the accommodation industry has simply gone cashless, they only accept cards or advance payments via booking. and then what if you happen to be somewhere like that and have to sleep there for whatever reason? it's very easy. and people simply go along with this. i had a painful wakeup in berlin where i was lucky they let me nap on the couch in the reception of the 3rd hostel i tried late that january evening. eventually i found a place where i could pay in cash. it's wild. i was so fed up i left the next day. and mind you it's a city with atms everywhere
It’s worse, it’s LIES. Net zero is just lies and a fraud on the people.
Arrogance.
@@NeilBarratt
Yes arrogance, but the architects of the system don't care, we are just plebs as far as they are concerned 😢
@@bolek-trolek
nearly homeless in January! Because you don't have the "right kind" of tender
World turned upside down. 😢
The government really are flogging a dead horse with these EVs. They're a product nobody wants or needs, being sold at a price most people can't afford. Genius.
Yes if your goal is t get people out of cars
@@willemhaifetz-chen1588 We'll just keep our old ones.
Some people want them, but as Geoff says, let the market decide.
@@matthewgodwin3050 yeo driving 2001, 2003 and 2003 here. 320 cdi
Subsidy,inducement, coercion through abuse of power . Same model every time.
i said it years ago.. the consumer decides.
not the company nor politics.
people need to understand that its our workforce and money that has the power to make decisions.
we are not weak nor powerless. They just want us to think that.
Mercedes also reverted their decision to give the C63 AMG a 4 cylinder engine.
Perfectly put. 👍💯
it's happening that in many places the accommodation industry has simply gone cashless, they only accept cards or advance payments via booking. and then what if you happen to be somewhere like that and have to sleep there for whatever reason? it's very easy. and people simply go along with this. i had a painful wakeup in berlin where i was lucky they let me nap on the couch in the reception of the 3rd hostel i tried late that january evening. eventually i found a place where i could pay in cash. it's wild. i was so fed up i left the next day. and mind you it's a city with atms everywhere. oh and i paid double that i would in a cashless hostel, 25 €
I have owned multiple Porsche’s and was asked (23 July) for my opinion to the Taycan (EV) … my reply was I’d rather walk!!! Und Guten Tag BMW meine neue Freunde
In the words of Clarkson
Oh no anyway 😂
Fiat, Porsche, VW, they keep coming with their admissions that they can't sell them and they're worried for the future of their business enough to start the ball rolling to kill the 'no choice' option
@@superloopy24v The whole concept has been rushed through . The prices are mind blowing for the ordinary people who are even paying double for the weekly shop and rent
@@roysimpson9711 Too right, my personal example is that I am a low mileage user of a vehicle that can't justify new car prices, especially for the type of car I like, (sporty discreet...ish saloons). No way I could justify new electric if I wanted and could afford one at the even higher price. Also I can't do all my own servicing and repairs on one to save money either, (as I do now), so that adds even more to the cost. I have no interest in servicing debt for a car that does little mileage and buying a used EV with the high risk battery life/cost. I hear that about doubling of the grocery shop cost too! It's ridiculous how this has got so bad.
The Electric Viking will be calling Porsche “misinformation” 😂
Bang goes his pension
The EV scam has tanked… if you can afford a 911… why would you buy a toy one.. the same applies to the Mustang.
Have Mustang, can confirm. V8 is lovely!
Have Mustang. Can confirm. Ecoboost is lovely.😊
I spoke to a tard who traded his 992 for a gaycan, couldn't believe the no brainer that the stealership offered him the price he paid for the 992 trade in after 2 years.
Absolutely. Just been for a drive to the accompaniment of a Flat Six Symphony. (24 year old, fifth hand 911 Cabriolet.)
Porsche are now another car manufacturer crapping themselves.
People power! If YOU the people dont want something, then show them!
I don't even want a new petrol car. Very happy with my 1981 Triumph Acclaim. No electronics on it, not even an ECU. It's faultlessly reliable, and gets 50 mpg. Why would I change?
@@matthewgodwin3050 Nice car 👍
If jaguar isn't making money on their present models why would they think that anyone would buy luxury EV's starting at 100k,rising to 225k?
Exactly - EVs are mere conveyances. Why spend extra for a Jaguar?
I've heard it said that the only thing less reliable than a Jaguar is an electric Jaguar.
V8 Jags are cool.
Geoengineering is using all the aluminium.
If you watch the new Twisters movie they sneak in how they do geo engineering.
@@bentullett6068 HAARP
@bentullett6068 didn’t know this…
Has anyone noticed the recent appearance of TV adverts for electric vans? Could it possibly be because the take up is only around 5 to 6% because, quite simply, most trades people don't want them.
Could it be because an electric van is even worse than an electric car, re range anxiety and electric lorries would be even worse than that..............total madness!
Said this many times ages ago, the big manufacturers will say all the rights things to avoid penalties and receive subsides and benefits, but behind the scenes they will keep their options open. Then when it’s obvious that EVs are a disaster they will announce that they will have to ‘reluctantly’ reduce/end EV production and revert to ice engines in order to stop the company from going bust, because they have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to protect the company.
Pretty much, yes. "We really tried." "Reluctantly." "It was a worthwhile experiment."
I said from the start when all the makers said they were only going to make electric models that some of them would suddenly make a sharp u-turn when the date was reached and sales stopped. The only firm that made it clear they knew the future was not electric and would not commit was Hyundai / Kia. Looks like the rest are now realising the dark reality of the future.
Yep same here. was saying the same thing.
They will play the game, say all the right things to avoid penalties and gain subsidies, while at the same time will keep their options open.
Then later when they have evidence that total EVs ain’t going to work they will go back to ice engines saying that they have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to protect the company from going bust.
Toyota and BMW kept their options open too, I believe.
“Future, my arse”, as a Greek philosopher once said.
Geoff we are not paying the government to promote EVs the WEF is. As dim as they are they will sell their grandmother for a profit. Look at Spurgeon where the hell did £2 million come from. Then the cheeky mare knicked the party camper van😂 ❤
Volvo need to get their act together also Geoff.❤
volvo went woke
Volvo is dead. It’s Geely now.
Too many of us wearing tin foils hats!😅😅
Aluminium
To right mate 😅😂
Loyal to the foil
Offered a great deal more protection than did Britney Spears and the Booster.
There wouldn't be an EV market without government interference, no "green taxes" for less than "green" projects.
No record energy prices!
Governments should not get involved in almost any commercial decisions!
Why has it taken so long for auto-manufacturers to Just Say No ?
They employ 10's of thousands of people, both direct and indirect.
They are gifting an entire industry to CYhina ... how do they think that ends !?!
China thinks that it's going to be the dominant force in motor vehicles. Let them think it. Then let them collapse as nobody buys their electric junk.
Its even funnier than that cos these cars are just gonna pile up at ports all over the world.
We havent seen anything yet.
There will possibly be a grey imports market of (cough) 'slightly used' RH drive I.C.E. cars appearing.
Ambitious- NO idiots for not asking the people
EV,s are only good enough for the good old milkman in the early hours, if your lucky enough to have a milkman 😬
PS Shortage of aluminium? I thought it rained aluminium ✈️🛩
Might be using silver iodide too.
There are people who have a milkman?
That ended with a LOL! 😂
You can see the EVangelists trying to write a script to cover their anger on their smart tech car falling in price again.
We want the anti gravity stuff they have the technology but we are not allowed to have it
It'll be a bit expensive to install the magnet tracks in all the roads, but the cooling for the superconductor might be doable with enough power - bonus points for using dry ice to make a trail of cool fog behind your car!
@@C.I... don’t need that they have the proper equipment and knowledge for free energy ie free electricity and our freedoms of travel they want us enslaved unto the so called elites
When Keir Starmer and Sadiq Khan sell their Range Rover V8 Diesel’s and buy an electric car I’ll think about it. What’s the point in electric cars when zero emission synthetic fuel are available one day
Here in Finland carbon neutral synthetic diesel is already available on a large scale with some caveats, it can’t be found in the smaller gas stations and only the company Neste makes it. It is also more expensive than regular diesel,but it runs on all existing diesel engines since its chemical compound is identical to fossil diesel
A shortage of aluminium? Lets hope they don't ban beer to free up beer cans for ev production.
Force majeure, act of god, the divine water based retribution of the lord; even the all mighty is against EVs 😂😂😂
Geoff all day i have been in the garden and watched the planes fly over, only three had trails, they were high up and they disappeared before the planes went out of site. Three o'clock the sky was clear blue beautiful.. I was having tea at 5.30 looking out noticed trails so went outside to look, there were trails all over going in all directions these spread out wide and went from complete view in both directions. I did see one plane doing a trail on a north to south direction which stayed and widened over us heading to the East. They turned a blue sky into a mess of grey and blanked the sun out eventually. I even wished the aircraft would blow up. Who the frig is doing this and who is allowing and paying for it.😠😠😠
Stop looking up !
pilots flying for shekels backed by nothing. Smart!
You are flogging the wrong horse on here chum
Milk Floats?? Future my Arrrse.
There is a market for EVs. In the scrapyard 😅
Obviously Porsche read my comment on their imminent demise on your video on this subject 😂
its true I seen them read it.
Ed Milliband doesn’t drive an EV he was quizzed on tv about it. Breakfast tv i think.
*Tesla's H1 '24 Sales vs H1 '23 Sales*
*USA: DOWN 8%*
*Europe: DOWN 13%*
*China: DOWN 5.4%*
Porsche: Our production line is equally efficient for EV, Hybrid and ICE cars.
- because your tooling is so efficient?
Porsche: No, because we can't make either without Aluminium.
Yeah. I'm not buying EV for that price.
It's not the price, it's that they're a throwaway after 5 years.
I love the improvised quoutes within the articles :D keep em coming!
There is a market for EVs, but it isn't the luxury or sports car market. It's the 2 car family that have a second, small car for local shopping trips and school runs. They also need a space where they can charge at home and not be taxed for having a driveway instead of a front lawn (that needs watering and isn't all that environmentally friendly).
I've been thinking about it and the perfect EV is either an old Leaf that's used only for local errands or a Rolls Royce Spectre, where electrification suits the goals of ultra luxury.
In both cases the owner is going to have another car to take on a wider breadth of duties, so the message there is that the best EV is only good as a 2nd vehicle.
You assumption that EVs are only for use as a "second car" for local shopping trips etc,
is way off the mark, as virtually all EV owners I've spoken to, use their EV (their only vehicle)
just like they used their ICE cars, my Mini Cooper Electric, replaced my old Mini Cooper ICE,
and I do more long distance drives in my Mini Cooper Electric, than I did with my Mini Cooper ICE.
@@Shadrach666"BIG DEAL???" I drove my Mini Cooper Electric from London to Lands End and back in one day, (690 miles)
to get to Lands End from London, (280 miles) it only required 40 mins of en route charging and NONE of that time was wasted time either, (toilet, food, coffee, tourist, shopping breaks), I did Stonehenge, Dartmoor, Tintagel Castle, Mousehole and Lands Ends, then from Lands End to London, only requiring 40 mins of en route charging, (don't forget that virtually all other EVs have got DOUBLE the 145 mile range as my Mini Cooper Electric), when I got home I just thought to myself, "I've done a bit of a journey and NOT funded that vile Saudi Arabian regime one bit, as they use that money raised by selling their oil products, to fund Mosque building here in the UK, to promote the spread of Islam" so after you filled up, did you think, "I hope that Saudi Arabian regime, doesn't fund building a Mosque in the next street to me, with MY money too",
ICE = funding of a 6th Century CULT from the Dark Ages and THAT is as OBSOLETE as it can ever get.
Yet yesterday! They were dropping all their ICE models?
As Tony at Car Nage said recently EV's can be likened to the old Betamax!
ties in with lee's porch being worth about £1.50 these days
Any updates regarding the new EV Macan? Is it actually on sale yet? How many preorders? If you could get one for 30K this time next year I still wouldn’t!
Man dude, you are like the energizer bunny, cranking out video after video, AND keeping the quality. Kudos!
Experts !
Why would you need a car, when your only trip will be a short walk to your local mosque when you hear the call to prayer living in your 15 minute city.
That's all too easy to imagine!😱
3:36 UK Lost a number of Aluminium plants over the years due to the UKs very high electric price, caused by our renewables and lack of Nuclear, or Coal.
All of us with a brain want the market to decide sadly the ccp doesn’t want that
Fiat, Porsche and Ford now.
What a surprise people are not prepared or able to pay a 100 grand for a car that 3 years later will be worth 50 pence !!!
Fixing stupid seems to take painful experience for many...
Whatever governments want to do, you simply get around the fact that EVs are an extremely flawed solution to a non-existent problem.
Flooding? It’s those pesky concrete drives again I’ll bet!
Force major?
‘ Why didn’t you mow the lawn?’
‘ Force Major darling, Force Major’
The stupid thing is if manufacturers had not charged outrageous prices for EVs and Government hadn’t decided to force people into them it’s likely they would have been more successful.
I seriously think they have a place, if you live in a city have your own drive and commute around 20 miles a day they make some kind of sense.
That said, I’m happy to keep driving my Jeep 2.8 crd for some time to come!!😉😉
Companies being forced to adopt junk by governments is not the same as a good product selling on its own merits
Seems like politicians were the only ones that didn’t see all this coming…
And those in charge are making €billion decisions?Doesn't look like they're up to it.
I BeliEVe people should wait EVen longer before buying EVery EV on Earth
Here's hoping that the new Renault 5 gets an engine.
Why there is oil in the ground EV is a dream
Indeed, each off shore wind turbine has a concrete base 100m wide and 30m deep. Installation destroys the seabed and the sea life which is the food whales eat.
Why don't they just use some of that "Chineseum" instead then?
I think Lee should create a custom car like we did last century by shoe-horning in a big FO V8, V12 or flat 12 and ditching the food blender motor. It would be unique and set a precedent.
If manufacturers were left alone by governments to sort out a cleaner future and spend the money how they see fit, they would do it.
Yep. But they are so damn arrogant and we are so blindly obedient that we let them get away with it. Should have told them to kindly 'fook off' from the start
A idea for a video Geoff how many cars could you buy with the money, Lee has lost on his lump of 💩 the only rule is you have to spend, what you normally do on a car 👍
Haha... spoiler alert - Geoff wins!! GGG!!!
Imagine owning a Taycan this morning! 2 years ago I pondered trading my 911 in but thought better of it…. 😂
Has anyone noticed that the off road EV racing is going over the hydrogen, next year I think
A lot of EVs go off road where I live. They're pushed up onto the verge when the battery runs out.
@@matthewgodwin3050 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Racing with hydrogen powered cars sounds exciting. Hope the new formula goes off with a bang 🙂
Would be funny to see Le Mans 24, just with BEVs.
Imagine all those drivers full of adrenaline in the pit lane, waiting for their car to recharge.
The big problem with "performance" EVs like Porsche is that you simply can't make an easy comparison.
No EV handles, because they're all so heavy.
They all accelerate well.
So the only way to tell the difference is range... That's not really a performance thing. Diesel trucks have amazing range.
My daughter partner has just bought a porche 911, been saving a long time, it's a lovely Red 🚘 not an E V 😂
market re-adjusting is beautiful to watch.
Sooo… People don’t want to buy a 150-250k car that depreciates 53% in first year??? Wonder why. 😂
Wonder how the Taycan 2 is doing. Not seen a single one on the road yet.
Want is that a U turn for EV,s ????😅😂
Aluminium production consumes so much energy that it's described by some as "solidified electricity"
Hopefully they'll put an ICE in the new Macan. They'll sell loads !.
I love ev's around town. They are smooth, quiet and nice to drive. Of course any time you want to go far they drop on their backside and thats ignoring the silly prices, lack of fire mitigation and all the rest.
What I don't understand is why ev's are considered at all? Once you have a plug-in hybrid which can do all the town stuff on electric you're good. Ev's offer little or no gain on a run and require a massive amount of resources to make - along with the infrastructure requirements.
A plug-in does everything an ev does but with 1/4 or less of the battery, usually far less weight (always far less when you take range into account), no need to rip half the country up for new cables and no huge cost looming when the battery gets past its age.
There is literally no gain to a long range ev over a plug-in.
Market forces dictate not goverments or manufactures, make what ever you want if people wont buy them you go bust
There were around 30 electric cars on the Mercedes forecourt in Inverness, never shift them
”Yes! Our JLR vehicles are famous for bad electrics so lets make them full electric!” 🥳
EVs and Net Zero: the equivalent of Trabants and Soviet Propaganda.
Im on benefits, and by the sounds of it, I'm going to be able to buy a Porsche soon 😂
Oh well never mind 😅😅
Make Cars Great Again!
Add, not replace. Sort the infrastructure. Sort the source of the juice. Then make them much less complex and therefore cheaper. Unfortunately they all went to compete with Tesla instead of doing their own thing. Big, heavy, complicated, expensive and frankly too fast for the public roads. Wakey Wakey.
"I never make predictions, especially about the future."
Kevin Keegan?
Apart from range anxiety, who wants to have a more expensive electric vehicle and make a huge loss on its resale - surely that will affect business sales too, eventually?
That was convenient… the flooded supplier gets complete disclosure of their predicament by their customer so their customer can avoid admitting their error on going large on EVs.
By the way Jeffrey my son that was defo one of the best suggestions I've fekin heard like on these ev shit boxes , it would make a great experiment to put the likes of the Vauxhall corsa or fiat 500 models lined up next to each other on the garage forecourts starting with the diesel model next to the petrol model to the elecky one and all at exactly the same price and see what happens, I think we all know what shit would be left sitting there eh 🤪
But I thought the EV market was hot 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The less electronics we buy the better. I don’t want any new electronics with computerisation. Look at what happened with that outage. Banks and shops were stopped in their tracks. We need more than one energy source.
The people and their budgets will control the markets; the average family can’t afford an 100k car nor a used 30k one either.
Has anyone else noticed the Labour government has been suspiciously quiet about our EV future?
No, they are fully behind Net Zero they say
How are they going to sell vehicles no-one buys?
Moral of the story. If you happen to be a succesful and well respected car company, maybe let your customers determine your products and not fickle, self interested governement policy.
new math will be 80% actually becomes 0.80% and say they are the same