Why DEMYX MIGHT BE THE MASTER OF MASTERS! Kingdom Hearts 3 - Theory / Discussion
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2019
- There's a lot to talk about when it comes to Demyx in Kingdom Hearts 3. A lot of people think he could be the secret identity of The Master of Masters from Kingdom Hearts X Back Cover, here's what I think...
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Even if Demyx isn't the Master of Masters, it would be interesting to see him have a bigger role like Luxord.
I'd prefer this exactly TBH. Much as I appreciate the clues, I hope it's a red-herring all the connections between Demyx and MoM. But, I wouldn't mind him being a secret agent for MoM. Sort of taking Ava's place in the Foretellers.
Well if it isn't Demyx, or Luxord, it could even be possible that the Master of Masters is Luxu/Braig/Xigbar from the future, who probably time travelled, or maybe even his Heartless.
weve been through this master of masters is the broom from fantasia
No fool!!! He's jafars staff!!!
Damn you all! He's clearly Boo's door
Master of masters is jenova from ff7
No, The MoM is clearly Tony the Tiger from cereal
Shut up, MoM is Yensid's stairs
Why he could be:
-Two words: “Silence Traitor”
-the element of water has had a HUGE role in the series.
Here's a theory. Demyx is a nobody but who's nobody is he? We've never seen his human form. Perhaps the mom is his human form.
What the fuck
That could make sense. Personality traits carry over to nobodies and so do memories (to a slight degree), so he could be the nobody of the MoM. And his heart could be in the box and he’s trying to keep the two separated so he doesn’t reform until the time is right.
Fans: So, MoM is Demyx right?
Nomura be like
Nomura: The MoM is Demyx’s grandfather. He later possessed Demyx’s somebody in Union X. But it was never shown.
Fans: What!!?!?!
Nomura is* like
@@MrDmkp stfu
XD LOL that sounds completely accurate
I wouldn't be surprised if Nomura does that.
Dance Theories, Dance!
The most underrated scene in KH3 is when xemnas called a couple of the OG organization members and told them they could all use key blades
Quadre Young right??????
Remember when people swore on their lives that Axel was Riku's Nobody?
I'm leaning more towards The MoM being a future Sora he just seems so lighthearted and playful most of the time.. but still serious when he has to be.... I just have a funny feeling...
I feel the same. Either it's Sora, Demyx or...MoM is just his own person. It's interesting
i'd love demyx being master but if he isn't thats fine too. But no other character we know currently can be the master he's the only one who's personality matches almost 100%. Though the master being his own character is great too im fine with either but i want demyx to stay relevant and on our side. Luxord as well.
@Brian padelford impossible for Xigbar to be both MoM and Luxu.
@Brian padelford who the hell is xeyanort?
If Demyx turns out to be the Master of Masters then he probably ISN'T going to be on our side.
Fans: So, MoM is Demyx right?
Nomura be like : )
Nomura: The MoM is Demyx’s grandfather. He later possessed Demyx’s somebody in Union X. But it was never shown. :D
Fans: What!!?!?!
What about Sora? His personality is really close to MoM.
remember the clumsy Tobi from Naruto? It turned out he was the master of Akatsuki Organization.
Fake Tobi - one of the most goofy character in Naruto
Real Tobi - one the most serious and scary character in Naruto
Jar Jar Binks is also a Sith Lord
Watch the master of masters be Xehanort and Namora is like "twist ending, the dark seeker arc is never over." Either that or Namora himself is the master of masters. Tell me I'm wrong I dare you.
Well this aged like fine wine....
To me, yeah, it would explain why he got “benched” all the time to protect him at bit more and why larxene treated him mean to keep him keen (or to stay on his radar). Also, he’s super playful and really random like MoM. But if I know KH as well as I think I do, I feel that Nomura would throw a curve ball in there.
Him getting benched has nothing to do with it.
Luxu and Xehanort are so far below him they don't deserve to know he was amongst them, if Demyx is in fact MoM, he'd be playing them from behind the scenes.
It's a possibility but one as equal to be likely as future Sora.
The one I'm really going for is MoM being his own person yet to be revealed. If he was from the future he would have known everything he needed to know so there's no point in the gazing eye.
I don’t see it nor want it. Let the Master of Masters be his own person.
KingNazaru this ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
I view that as bad storytelling.
You don't set up mystery that the viewer can *never* solve.
@@elemomnialpha That's not how that works.
Imani P I’m actually fine with Luxu being Xigbar.
What if the Master is an older evil jaded Sora that somehow ended up in the past due to using the power of waking like an idiot?
Well he didn't exist in that time and know one knew him so that's impossible because kingdom hearts time travel you can only travel to a time you exist or someone knows you exist
No matter what Nomura wants to do, he is hindered by Disney. What is Disney beyond the ultimate deciding factor of how Sora and Riku grow as the Keyblade’s chosen? That’s right, Disney is Yen Sid from the front. And who leads Sora and Riku from the front each journey?(starting with KH2) Yen Sid. Yen Sid has always been the metaphorical Master of us all in the game, but he also is outside of the game. Yen Sid would be a more dramatic and unexpected MoM than anyone else you could think of
Hmmm Yen Sid did say he was apart of the Xehanort trio I believe.
@Just a Human yes
Fans: So, MoM is Demyx right?
Nomura be like
Nomura: The MoM is Demyx’s grandfather. He later possessed Demyx’s somebody in Union X. But it was never shown.
Fans: What!!?!?!
The idea of the biggest bad guy in the game disguising himself as the fool who doesn’t know anything is the perfect parallel. When people think you are the fool they don’t pay you any attention. which is exactly what the master of masters wants. He wants to remain hidden, so he can continue to pull strings from the shadows.
I really don't want Demyx to be the Master of Masters...
I can say that demix is not the Master of masters i think i know who is but i can't remember the name he is in kh 2
Forreal
@@daniszabo576 Pete
I do
@@rosedragon3498 Pete haha if he is everyone fucked up 😂
I am the Master of Masters. Case closed.
OK coming back to this theory, this would TOTALLY EXPLAIN Melody of Memory, why it’s a Rhythm Game and the link to the Master of Masters. I am ceased.
Have you guys considered the apprentices may be one of our heroes ???
I think luxord is the mom. Everything seems like such a game to him. Luxord LOVES GAMES!!!!! 😁
Everyone knows it's Demyx's guitar. That's why Xigbar had to carry around the chi-blade for MoM. Ain't got no legs.
The thing is, its too obvious and would just would rerash luxu's twist.
I seriously feel like the MoM is his own person. If not that, he is an Older Sora from another worldline, i think Demyx is gonna be one of the seven darkness's replacing Ava.
It's not even about Demyx for me. It's about the Master of Masters himself. As much as I love Demyx, I don't want him to be MoM. I want the Master to be his own character. He was easily the most interesting character in Back Cover and I really think he should stand on his own.
But why????? Why set up a hidden face for all these characters for essentially no reason??? He'll just take his hood off and we'll see a brand new face as if is supposed to be a huge reveal......... And nothing. It will be severely underwhelming and anti-climatic. I can't get on board with him being a brand new character.
I'd rather it be revealed to be Pete before I'd be okay with it being a new person.
If Demyx was the Master, Luxu would have little to no purpose. Demyx's KH3 dialogue doesn't even hint at that. But it is strange that he remembers the old life. Seemingly only ppl from Radiant Garden, not Daybreak Town, remember anything about their previous selves.
"Nomura's not the type to do the same exact thing twice"
Looks at Noctis, KH3 Riku, and Yozora
Ehhhh I'm still on the fence about demyx being MOM but I wouldn't really care. I guess it really just depends on the execution. But I do think Demyx definitely has something for the world to see if we depend on Nomura's hints I guess; that statement Demyx made in the cut scene feeds to my belief. He is quite the underdog so if not MOM, I think Demyx may play a role on the good side... (Also,Insert my time travel theory here. Like i said before, maybe a mature Demyx from the future may fit the MOM bill? That may be the ahhhh OK moment that would make Demyx being the MOM more believable.)
Agreed about the keyblade council, like there has to be someone running the show!!!! We just don't know who it is...like everything else of course 🤦
BUT!!! I have something to ask you that I have just noticed about Yozora....! Notice the difference in his eye color. The difference in the color schemes of the world Sora and Riku are in. Can't be a coincidence... AT ALL! I can't peg what it could mean though, any thoughts? 🤔🤔
No clue what it could mean. Tbh though I do have some theories I'm trying to cook up for Yozora as he is probably the most mysterious character right now!!
@@ProdigyxCD Yay!!! I can't wait to hear your theroies about him!!! He has to be the main person, as of now, that I probably would have the most satisfaction to learn about!!!...Sorry MOM 😅
He has a lot of similarities to Riku, that makes me think future Riku! BUT, Nomura has a thing for parallels and, the eye color is another one of them...kinda a gut feeling! So I'm torn between thinking that its either two different realities or two different Time zones of the future? Could it be that Yozora can travel between the two?
Sadly, I highly doubt we will see too much in the DLC but fingers crossed for something, anything at all, to learn about our new character!!!
Fans: So, MoM is Demyx right?
Nomura be like : )
Nomura: The MoM is Demyx’s grandfather. He later possessed Demyx’s somebody in Union X. But it was never shown. :D
Fans: What!!?!?!
@@ProdigyxCD Well if it isn't Demyx, or Luxord, it could even be possible that the Master of Masters is Luxu/Braig/Xigbar from the future, who probably time travelled, or maybe even his Heartless.
The Master of Masters is HowToBasic 👀
XDD is has to be him
I love how you've committed to pronouncing it "Numora" lol.
Nah, kind of just a bad habit. Don't really think about it while recording..
I’m soo proud g I remember when you done had 20 followers on twitch and know you fr grown you got 5k you been grinding lately good job bro imma try to catch streams again
What if Demyx is actually the MoM's Nobody? And "Darkness" is actually the MoM's heartless,
I truly don’t believe Demyx is the MoM. The MoM has that Tobi/Madara build up. I do think that Demyx is related to the MoM in some way, maybe, he’s the little brother or son. I can’t picture Demyx just running the show the way the show has it has been running. I think it’s more to the picture than what you see. The MoM could be somebody that we haven’t even seen in any game. But even when Demyx said that line in his cutscene it didn’t really draw my attention. Demyx is a character to watch out for though considering Nomura brought him to the real organization. We’re going to have to see
I hope the MoM is Walt Disney himself.
I've had this theory for a while but to simplify it, I think the master found a way to make his heart live forever but not his body, his body became too old and he's just a heart like hooded ansem, he needs a body to carry on his plans so he makes a clone/younger version of himself and puts him in a box for luxu to drop off in the future, the masters heart goes to kingdom hearts and when xehanort opens it his heart if free looking for his vessel. He now has whatever secrets kingdom hearts has or something in kingdom hearts specifically. Lmk what you guys think
I know I just wrote an entire novel on Demyx...but another clue that could point to him being the MoM is Demyx's original eye color. It's the exact same color as the "gazing eye", and as the MoM states in Back Cover, he infused his own eye into the keyblade he gives to Luxu. Now I know other characters in the game have the same eye color, heck even Luxord himself has the same color eyes as Demyx. Once again, not substantial definitive proof, but just something else to ponder on. Hmm...maybe Luxord and Demyx are BOTH the MoM but in separate "vessels"? That could be an interesting twist. And for those that think the idea sounds ridiculous, of two different characters being the same person, remember that Xehanort has already been able to accomplish this with 13 vessels. Even Luxu can do this, hence how he became Xigbar/Braig. And Xehanort had to have learned how to put his heart into different vessels to begin with....Hmmmm....wonder how Luxu and Xehanort know how to do this.....who have they both sought guidance from?
Guys I just had this crazy theory. Seeing the cutscene with the replica again, it just hit me that it looks like how Ventus looked when Xehanort was going to leave him in destiny islands. What if Ventus, his heart just having been pulled to the future by Xehanort, was put into a replica. It would make sense how Xehanort could just take the darkness from Ventus, and how his body wasn't transformed into a nobody. If his heart was taken from his body, logically he would turn into a nobody, but instead his body goes to sleep, which makes sense since a replica wouldn't have a leftover soul, just the husk. Of course, if you think that is crazy, I also have a working theory on how Kairi was a replica the whole time (her death in 3 and Xion's death in 358/2 look exactly the same, and Ansem seeker of darkness was the one who put Kairi in destiny island in the first place).
Sheadon Loomis hmm then if that’s the case..would that allow for kairi to be Ava..idk..I’ll shut up now
The only thing about Demyx I'm curious about is that with the Keyblade Graveyard final battle even though he and Vexen were benched it feels odd that his delivery of the vessel was his last appearance. Nothing has been resolved with him. We don't know if he's regained his heart again or still roaming about as Demyx still. I think that's why the "under the radar" comment bothers everyone because he really is under the radar to the point he didn't have any form of resolution in KH3
Axel is the Master of Masters. He never takes his coat off for a reason. He's afraid of the dark. Because he's the heart of fire. He sounds exactly like the Master of Masters too. Fire will always exist, in all time frames. Axel loses everyone. And everyone will eventually forget him when they die.
He's so far off anyone's radar that this might be Obito all over again but less obvious 😅
why? tobi being obito was so obvious?😅
@@plotarmour1471 right? As soon as Tobi was shown to have Sharingan in his right eye and that same eye being the only one shown I immediately said to myself "This is the person Kakashi got his Sharingan from."
I think MoM is one of the reapers in Shibuya, which I think is revived as a sleeping world after KH3. Specifically the Conductor. I think he and Joshua will continue the TWEWY story line after Neku and company are revived. The MoM, knowing about the power of the Reaper Game, was either already there or snuck in after the revival of the world. After Sora, Riku, and Joshua win, the MoM finds a way into the realm of sleep (Shibuya being one of the places where sleep and death touch if it is a sleeping world, combined with the Reaper Game). From there, he is poised to make his comeback. I went more in depth on your last video, but I'm happy to discuss it more here if anyone sees any problems or holes in this theory.
Idk about that. It would be kinda weird to have a main villain that’s tied to something OTHER than KH’s original stuff.
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE when I say that he would continue the story line, I mean it would still be KH contained, but take place after the story in the other game. Similar to how the BH6 storyline worked in KH3.
Well he dose say “as if!” As well... :/ “Dance water dance!”
Makes sense since he’s the only organization member who we don’t know about his somebody form
Thanks to the ultimania interview, I think I figured out the power of waking. But then again I could be wrong. Long story short, it’s the power to return lost hearts. The reason however, that this power has been shown to do incredible things in the series, is because Sora and Xehanort and others perverted it’s intended purpose, like how a lawyer exploits a loophole.
Good thought but may I tweak it?
A loophole completely avoids responsibility.
I think sora and xehanort were more stretching then exploiting.
Getting more out of the power but clearly causing damage because they're using it for it's unentended purpose.
I feel like if Demyx had been revealed as the MoM at the same time that Xigbar was revealed to be Luxu, we wouldn't have people calling it cheap or unsurprising. People have just thought about it way too much at this point. Personally, I'm still going to love it because I just love the idea. I don't care about being surprised. I just want a good story and an interesting character. Demyx was a character who was constantly being underestimated, so it'll be cool to see him show off and prove everyone wrong in the biggest way possible. Most likely, we're going to find out in Re:mind. I don't think Nomura can drag it out for longer than that.
Never thought about it that way, you're probably right!
@@ProdigyxCD btw, not to nitpick - I know u gotta get those clicks - but the title of this video is misleading. Being someone who's thought about this theory to death, I was hoping you were going to have something new to say about it. Even a basic rundown of the things people have already put together would've been cool. You could've called this "Some People Think Demyx is the Master of Masters But... Meh." It's not just you. I see this all the time now in the KH youtube community. Theory videos that are actually theory videos don't seem to exist anymore. I would love to hear a break down of the reasons WHY people think Demyx is the MoM. And if you disagree, it'd be cool to hear why, not just "Because it wouldn't be surprising." That's the level of theorizing I expect from the comments section. This theory is so popular precisely BECAUSE nobody has been able to prove it wrong. Anytime there's been a counter, there's always an argument or explanation that reasonably negates it. (Even analyzing that as a phenomenon would be interesting.) The title of your video makes it sound like you were going to present the side of those who believe in the theory and explain the reasons why it works, but you took the other side almost immediately and then didn't take it anywhere.
The reason people believe in the theory isn't just because of the similarity in their mannerisms and personalities. There's so much you can derive from the way the story itself is developing. There are parallels you can draw between the other characters' development to determine the likely direction of his character. And SO MUCH more... You can take apart the symbolism behind his weapon and the possible connection to TWEWY/Shibuya, his element of water and the significance of water as a symbol in KH, the significance of the number 9, the alternate reading of his Organization title in Japanese (Nocturne's Observation) and the visual parallels it has with the MoM's appearance in the secret ending, the otherwise unexplainable strangeness of Vexen speaking to him as a fellow "man of science", the fact that the only person he seemed friendly with was "Xiggy", etc. The fact that he seemed useless/never seemed to have a purpose always made him suspicious. That one line you mentioned wasn't the only thing that raised eyebrows. EVERY line of his in KH3 is suspicious, like it's foreshadowing. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH. Even if you haven't kept up with all these things, I can't imagine it would take that long to see why other people believe in the theory so strongly, so when I see *another* video like this, I'm just like... What's the point? You're just here to verbally shrug at us? lol That's fine, but that makes this a vlog, not a theory video.
@@flagfighter Understandable the reason for the making of this video was for comments like these to spark actually. I like being contested about my thoughts because it sparks thoughts of my own. The point of the video isn't to "verbally shrug" at you in any way. There's plenty of RUclipsrs I can name that make Theories as well that go in depth about what they are talking about: HMK, Noir, Kingdomace, and heck that's only to name a few. In fact there's some on this channel that have been made! The tag at the end of every title ranges from: News - Discussion - Theory - Rant - ect. Sometimes it's a combination of the two like this one, seems like most people have noticed when I put a " / " in between two words at the end of a title it often means it's a half a half type of video. In this case it being a half discussion, half theory. A lot of the points to these videos is to 1. present a topic 2. see what my community thinks about it 3. make a continuation or use that video to inspire others similar. I'm aware of most of the points related to Demyx, though none of them have resonated with me the way they seem to resonate with some of you guys, I've always planned to go deeper into the Demyx M.O.M theory in a future video. This is my video explaining why based off of what I've seen, along with acknowledging some of the possibilities presented. I plan on following up this video with something a little more in depth if that satisfies everyone! It was the plan from the get go.. We have plenty of time until the next saga officially starts. Be very doubtful this'll be the last time I or anyone for that matter talks about Demyx. Not all my videos are for everyone though, most of the time I just enjoy rambling into my mic about my favorite series. Though I know some people are more interested in the Analyzing of the lore rather than discussions of the topics at face value, there's plenty of channels out there I'm sure one of them can fully satisfy your entertainment needs. Apologies if this ruined the enjoyment of the video for you, hoping to see you give me another chance in the future ^_^
I love your theory videos. I don't think you would do this but I'd love some new people to watch my Kingdom Hearts LPs.
Demyx's shoulders are too different for it it to be the Master. Demyx's come up at a curve. Master's are far more normal, much like Xigbar's shoulders. Kinda odd observation, but just saying.
The MoM Reveal 4 games later? Dude some of us will be dead by then...cause itll be 2056
Scala is kind of the Jedi Temple/Coruscant for Keyblade Wielders by the looks of it, it's even the nexus of all worlds like how Coruscant was the capital of the galaxy. And yeah, we know nothing about it's rulers, my assumption is Brain founded it but who really knows what Nomura has planned for all the Union Leaders. You can see different colored castles and flags all over Scala though, so it probably does have some kind of equivalent to the Unions, maybe some sort of monarchy that the different houses of wielders have pledged themselves to.
I thought Nomura said the Master of Masters is his own character
I wonder if this was the video you said to have notifications on lol 👀
Has anyone mentioned axel to be the mom ??? He's tall and has a playful side. He also mysteriously can wield a keyblade out of nowhere. He's also someone who was bad then became good... what u guys think?
Sora is the MoM
Why is nobody talking about that Demyx is norted but is the only one who has normal ears. Why is that?
It gotta be the future version of sora
This is a boruto analogy. In boruto, isshiki otsutsuki who is the boruto counterparts of the master of masters, used kama which allow him to reform themselves in other people's body.
Demyx might have a device in him that has the master of masters data. That explains why Demyx has MoM's wacky mannerisms. Some of MoM was leaking out showing itself
Demyx himself lived in the same era as the master of masters. MoM might have selected him to be his vessel at that time.
Isshiki otsutsuki, who is the boruto counterpart of MoM, hijacked a random person's body in a ancient era.
I love the idea of demyx being tied to MoM somehow
Xigbar was a triple agent. He played both sides for fools and just faked his own supposed suicide. Damn, what a plot twist.
I'm happy that I wasn't the only 1 thinking that demyx is the master of the masters because he's a joker like the master
Hmm i feel like Demyx might be working alongside Ava or something along those lines, or maybe Brain
I don't like the idea of him being the MoM. I also don't understand how the cutscene made people think he is. Like it just feels like a massive stretch. That's like seeing Xehanort talk about vessels and guessing sephiroth would be one cause he's edgy and shit.
Completely out there and I highly doubt it’s true. What do you think of Demyx being Luxu’s original body? Like I said doubtful but it just hit me about halfway through the video.
And as I wrote that I realize how stupid it sounds. Lol mad at myself now.
Im not much of a demyx being MoM fan, however.. Demyx does have something weird up his sleeve and to me I think he's brain aka "the viruz" instead of MoM, here's some clues:
In KH3 hes aware that "being the dumb one" allows him to "be under everyones radar". In KH2 he kept this dumb act too, however he slips during his boss fight with sora where he tells sora "we do have hearts" donald replies "you cant fool us"; demyx suddenly has a whole personality change, stares down at sora in a VERY serious tone and says "Silence traitor" with a whole different posture and deeper voice, meaning he stopped the act. Seeing as how nobodies did ended up having hearts and how xemnas never told anyone, demyx somehow knowing is a major hint he know way more than he should.
Remember, in union cross brain is studying the book of prophesies closely and he traveled the world line to the future with marluxia, larxene, and the rest of the gang and xemnas said marluxia, Larxene, Luxord and demyx are all from that time period, with subject x being hidden away which its believed to be skuld.
Brain must be demyx clearly, posing agaisnt the masters plans, xigbar himself doesnt know who the virus going agaisnt the master is, so in remind he suspected luxord, clearly overlooking the weaker one demyx hiding in plain sight.
There's a... theory I've been thinking about recently. Bear with me, it's pretty strange and doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense. But, what if Demyx and Luxord are actually bluebloods from Scala ad Caelum? They could still have the legacy of the ancient keyblade war, but it would be more literal with them than with Larxene and Marluxia. If not having them from Scala, at least they could be distantly descended from bluebloods? I just feel like it makes sense. If they were around in the age of Fairytales, we would've seen them, but both were mysteriously absent despite being tied to the ancient keyblade war. So what better way to involve them than by making them descendants of, presumably, either Brain or Ephemer? I also propose this because I'm not very interested in another big reveal that one character was actually another; it worked great with Xigbar, but I feel like if they tried it twice, it would flop big time or make no logical sense.
Also, I feel like there's a very sound reason as to why Demyx couldn't be MoM. To time travel to the past, a version of yourself has to be there. So in essence, you can never travel to before your own timeline. If Demyx was MoM, how would he get to the distant past? If you claim it's because his future self was there, then that creates a temporal paradox and doesn't hold. It's physically impossible for Demyx to be MoM given current information.
It wouldnt suprise me if they use him as a sort of gateway to Quadratum to save Sora.
Wait Lets think a little.there Is a hooded character in unión cross remember?along with ephemer AND the other.what if he Is not luxu but demyx?or maybe luxord?i think that could be possibble right?
This is a personal theory as my evidence is circumstantial rather than conclusive. I think the master of masters is Xigbar/Luxu. (I have also included the failures of my argument at the bottom) The reason is because:
1) Xigbar IS THE ONLY CHARACTER WHO IS MISSING AN EYE!!
SIDE NOTE SPECULATION: I think that Xigbar and Yozora are either related or perhaps the same character. The reason is because of the cross bow weapon, the eyes and hair colour. If you put an eye patch on Yozora right eye he can definitely pass as a "younger version of Xigbar". At the end the movie focuses on Yozora's eyes and if you pay attention to his right eye IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THE EYE ON THE BLACK KEY BLADE. Furthermore if you noticed Yozora's eyes his right eye is a different colour from his left eye. Yozora's right eye is a colour similar to the black key blade and his left eye is a colour similar to Xigbar's left eye. It is also not unheard of characters possessing more than one identity so Luxu can be Xigbar and maybe the master of masters ALL AT THE SAME TIME. It is also a guess but the FIGHT STYLE OF YOZORA AND XIGBAR ARE VERY SIMILAR.
We know from the back story movie that the master of masters PLACED ONE OF HIS EYES IN THE BLACK KEY BLADE. Also the concepts of time travelling and replica's can make this idea possible especially when Luxu is not given a book of prophecies to ensure that the flow of time GOES AS PLANNED. (WHATEVER THAT MEANS)
SPECULATION: I think what is inside the BLACK BOX is A REPLICA/NOBODY. I do not know if it is a replica of Xigbar/luxu or whoever BUT THE SIZE OF THE BOX IMPLICATES THAT IT IS INDEED BIG ENOUGH TO HOLD A PERSON. To me it is LIKELY TO BE A REPLICA/NOBODY because of the reaction that Luxu did when he asked the master of masters "WHAT IS INSIDE THE BOX". There are only a few responses that can shock a calm Luxu I think a likely answer would be something on the lines of "IT'S A BODY" just the mere mention of a BODY INSIDE A BOX WOULD SHOCK ANYONE. If you know that the box is holding a body and the box is not moving the person is EITHER DEAD OR INDUCED IN A DEEP SLEEP. Even more so what happens if the master of masters say that what is inside the box is Luxu. Most definitely that would shock Luxu. You can even look at Luxu visually as a younger version of the master of masters (despite the fact that they are wearing hoodies hiding their identities).
2) Nomura has NOT EXPLAINED how Xigbar lost his eye and it is because of this I think should PLACE SUSPICION ON XIGBAR as something even more since the end of Kingdom Hearts 3 reveals that he is Luxu. That should tell you that there is something even more nested in this "meta level" of thinking. Furthermore both the master of masters and Luxu are always wearing their black hoodies so that you cannot see their faces. Furthermore I personally think that Nomura is using Xigbar/Luxu as a BIGGER DISTRACTION TO DETER YOU TO NOT THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF LUXU HAVING 3 IDENTITIES and being the master of master. The reason I think about this is that THE BEST PLACE TO HIDE A PERSON IS TO PLACE THEM IN PLAIN SIGHT WHERE YOUR OWN ASSUMPTIONS CREATED FROM YOUR OWN THOUGHTS IS BETRAYING WHAT YOU THINK IS THE TRUTH FROM WHAT IS ACTUALLY REALITY. MAGIC IS A PSYCHOLOGY OF MISDIRECTION AND DECEPTION AND THIS IS THE TECHNIQUE THAT NOMURA AND THE TEAM ARE CONSTANTLY USING TO MISLEAD YOU IN THEIR WRITING.
I AM OF COURSE OPEN TO HEAR OTHER OPINIONS but to me what I have presented IS COMPELLING BECAUSE the master of masters eye in the black key blade and Luxu/Xigbar missing an eye IN MY OPNION IS DIRECT EVIDENCE UNTIL NOMURA EXPLAINS HOW DID XIGBAR/LUXU LOSE HIS EYE. The only explanation is that Luxu's eye is missing because IT IS IN THE BLACK KEY BLADE. IF THAT ASSERTION IS TRUE THEN LUXU/XIGBAR IS THE MASTER OF MASTERS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE MASTER OF MASTERS SAID ABOUT THE BLACK KEYBLADE.
Failures of my arguments: My theory is depending on the fact that XIGBAR RIGHT EYE COLOUR MUST BE A DIFFERENT COLOUR FROM HIS LEFT. In reality people's pair of eyes should share the same colour BUT THE FACT THAT IT ZOOMS IN ON YOZORA'S EYES PROVES THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT EYE COLOURS ON TWO DIFFERENT EYES.
MOST DEFINITELY THERE IS SOMETHING I HAVE MISSED OUT SO I AM DEPENDING ON THIS COMMUNITY TO DISPUTE SOMETHING THAT I HAVE MENTIONED.:P :)
In KH2, Demyx is the only one who says that even nobodies have hearts... No one in that time tried to understand what he was saying (Because Xemnas wanted to create hearts to the nobodies, so what demyx sayed was nonsense in that time).
Then, in KH 3D, Xemnas just confirmed this information.
Firm believer that the MoM is Pence. If Ansem woulda been dust if he tried something in Twilight Town 👊🏽
So I maybe wrong but would the MoM only have one eye for the simple fact the he removed one a put it in a keyblade I'm not saying demyx would be missing one but there has never been any type of prosthetic body parts in all of KH
MoM is a new character.
Damn I thought it was chirithy
My main theory is still that MoM is adult Sora, but Demyx is second theory.
At this point I'm not surprised by any theory
This one is that one, this one is related to that person, this one time traveled
It's kinda getting reduced
Nomura said in the latest interview that it's someone we already know so there must be something to point out
Considering how things recently went down with the Master of Masters appearance in the KHUx finale, Demyx looks like an even better candidate.
What if Luxord is the KHUX Player
As for my opinion on the whole Demyx = MoM theory that's been going around, first I wanna give my first impression on the first time I saw the MoM when I first watched Back Cover. My initial gut reaction to the guy was "Wait....what? This guy? This fucking kook is the Master of Masters? He talks like a "dude bro" and is completely off his rocker..HE'S the Master of Masters? Why are the Foretellers listening to this guy, seeking his advice? How can they take this guy the least bit seriously? You mean to tell me THIS is the guy responsible for everything that's happened in the series thus far? This has gotta be some joke". But, after a couple years passed and a few more rewatches of Back Cover, the idea that the MoM is this charismatic sarcastic jokester, almost in the same vein as Deadpool, he started to become one of the most interesting characters in the series for me. I can't help but wonder how someone with his type of personality could be the almighty MoM. Ya know...kinda how people that don't want Demyx to be the MoM feel about Demyx. I initially thought Xigbar would be the MoM before it was revealed that he was Luxu, and I thought Luxu was gonna be an original character. So it's like everything I thought got completely 180'd. I wouldn't be mad if Demyx was the MoM, I just think it would almost be too predictable at this point. Hell the fact that everyone's already talking about it proves that. But I've always loved Demyx, and wanted to know more about him. And there's more clues than just the "I'm totally off the radar" line. In KH2 he says "You shouldn't judge anyone by appearance"....and the way he goes from kooky goofy to all serious with the "Silence, traitor..." line. Heck even just the use of the word "traitor" makes me think of the heavy emphasis on there being a "traitor" amongst the Foretellers. I know that's not really "proof", but it makes me scratch my head and convince myself more that he probably is the MoM, or at least connected to him in some way. That's also suppose to make people assume Nomura planned for Demyx to be the MoM all the way back to KH2 when realistically Nomura didn't even have the MoM thought out as a character back then. But he didn't have Luxu planned either when he wrote the character of Xigbar, and Nomura has found ways to go back to old games and change the context to fit future narratives, so it's very possible he could have gone back to old cutscenes as reference and used that as the foundation of the MoM, Luxu and Foretellers narrative. I know those that are against the theory want the MoM to be his own original character....but for some reason part of me doesn't want him to be. Maybe because his face has been hidden the entire time, which leads me to believe Nomura doesn't want us to see his face for a reason. Heck, outside of the MoM theories out there, we haven't even seen the eyes of the Foretellers, we have no clue what they look like outside of their mouths, so what's up with that? Why all the secrecy behind character's eyes? Oh yeah...because eyes tend to be a big give away when it comes to the plot of Kingdom Hearts. Eye color is usually a dead give away to what type of character you're dealing with, whether it be amber eyes being tied to Xehanort or darkness in general. Heck, in the Re:Mind trailer we see that Xehanort has his normal grey eyes when talking to the MoM...which leads me to believe the MoM gave him those amber eyes, whether through possession or some other means. Or maybe amber eyes just means darkness, as loosely proven by the Aqua scene. Who knows at this point, maybe amber eyes are entirely tied to the MoM. All I know is there is a reason Nomura doesn't want us to see the faces of the MoM and the Foretellers. Heck we don't even know what Luxu used to look like before he became Xigbar. I think it's safe to assume Xigbar/Braig's body is a vessel for Luxu. Anyway I know that was all over the place, but that's my stream of consciousness when it comes to speculating over the mystery behind the MoM, as well as the Foretellers and Demyx. And as for Luxord, I don't even have any guesses when it comes to him; he's an even bigger mystery as far as I'm concerned. But those are my loosely tied together thoughts. Sorry for such a lengthy response, but it's hard to condense my thoughts into a few concise sentences.
Think of it like this. A book is written down. music notes are written down. whom has a book and or play's a musical instrument as a weapon... I will leave the rest to speculation and theories.
FINALLY someone made the Kingdom Hearts and Star Wars comparison. I thought I was the only one that noticed the many similarities between both franchises. Maybe someone else has mentioned it or thought of it before but it's the first time I've seen a RUclipsr actually draw that comparison. I mean c'mon Xemnas uses light sabers for Christ sake it's pretty obvious that Nomura must've took some inspiration from Star Wars. That's why I'd never be too butthurt if Star Wars ended up as a world in a future game, I think it would actually be pretty fitting and not feel as out of place as people make it out to be.
there needs more information of who is the mom a nd were starting to know who are the foretellers and their story so the player should get more information about them to know about The mast of masters plan and who he is its to soon to figure it out
Watch the master be Eji Oji, the prince of ennui
Anyone thinks Demyx reminds about Tobi, I mean Obito of Naruto?
These characters are so similar to each other, both of them show themselves weak and small first, but acted also serious and mysterious side after.
Tobi was Obito, so Demyx ..is.. MoM
Not to be a bummer to anyone but I just don't see this theory as a whole. If that is the case, then why would the Master (Demyx) be willing to give up his own heart twice just to see his apprentice (Luxu/Xigbar) accomplish his plans? Did the Master really think Luxu was incompetent to the point he had to become a nobody twice just to be sure that he doesn't mess up? I thought Xigbar had it handled by himself for the twelve years that both Organizations existed. I know that it mentions that Xigbar and Demyx were really close and that Xigbar recruited Demyx into the second Organization.
The mannerisms between the Master and Dem might be the same but I think there has to be more than that for this theory to be certain.
So, with regards to the missing girl, I thought it was obvious that it was Kairi. She was in Radiant Garden with Isa and Lea and was in close proximity to Ansem the Wise and she "Just appeared one day on Destiny Islands" when the game establishes that those who's worlds are lost to darkness and they need a place of refuge go to Traverse Town, not Destiny Islands.
When Lea and Isa talk on the clocktower in Twilight Town it hit me that it has to be Kairi they're talking about. They can't remember her name because its been so long ago, and with Kairi grown up they just don't recognize her.
I don’t like the theory, because I feel the new saga should have new characters. Luxu being the undercover in the kh series is the only thing I believe should be the only character. Demyx being mom makes no sense, like why have Luxu then if Demyx could have just watched everything. I mean it would be interesting if Demyx was mom, but it would down play how awesome xigbars Luxu reveal was. Like i also don’t want the foretellers to be previous characters. The main thing that made me raise an eyebrow was when he told larxene “you need to play smart like me.”
I have only three choices for the master of masters
Demyx because of what you said
Axel because has same mood
Xehanort because in kingdom hearts remind and his keyblade
One of my class mates said mickey is the master of masters which i would also consider
maybe demyx is the MoM's nobody, and the MoM's heartless is in the box.
Everyone is focusing so much on Demyx and it will be a whole different character. The same way that Xigbar asked Luxord “Who really are you?”
All these plot twists and Papa Nomura is playing with my emotions 😩 the reveal of MoM will surprise us all.!
Maybe Demyx was possessed by the Master after he returned the second time. KH2 and KH3 Demyx are different. KH2 is full passive , KH3 is passive aggressive
For me it could be some Tobi kind act from Naruto ... would be a nice Twist if he is the Master of Master ♥
To those who want the master of masters to be his own person, I can respect that, but at the same time I think it would be kind of a waste and kind of pointless for him to not be someone we already know. My main reason for feeling this way is:
Why would Nomura go through the trouble of keeping his face/identity a secret from us all of this time if it is just some random person?
What is the point of concealing the identity of a character we didn't know in the first place? Where is the shock value in the eventual reveal? If the master were someone we know like Demyx or Sora or Luxord, then there would be shock value and we'd be wondering how this is the case or why this is the case, etc... However, if the master is random John or random Joe then what is there to be shocked about when he is eventually revealed? What, are we just supposed to be shocked by what his face looks like or something? Is the surprise supposed to be that he has a beard or something like that?
@Wumbo Zumbo
Why go through the effort to revive him, you ask? Well, it could be time travel/ world line related stuff. Basically, it could be reviving some alternate version of an existing character. For example, I've seen the theory that the master is an adult Sora from another timeline (I'm not going to get into it right now because it's convoluted). This alternate version of an existing character may have gone through some experience that led to him hatching some nefarious plan that eventually required his own revival in another world line.
If that were the case then it would make sense to keep his identity a secret this whole time.
However, if it was some random Joe, then the secrecy would be redundant. If it truly was random Joe, then they could have literally shown us the dude's face from the beginning, and we'd still know just as little about the master as we do now (assuming that all else was kept the same). You say that we could learn about the master in upcoming games, but we could do that with his face having been shown too.
Think about it this way:
Master Xehanort was introduced in Birth by Sleep. He wasn't kept shrouded in mystery, nor did he constantly have a hood obscuring his face. He was just presented to us plainly, (and quite early in the story of BBS might I add). Yet, as the series progressed, we found that there was plenty of stuff to learn about him and plenty of room for his character to develop despite the fact that his identity wasn't shrouded in secrecy like how the master of masters' is. In fact, even after the conclusion of his saga, we are still learning stuff about Xehanort's character thanks to things like the secret reports or KH Remind DLC.
If the master of masters is a new character, then why can't we see his face, yet still get plenty of development for him just like we did with Xehanort?
In short, what I'm saying is:
There's no point to hide an identity when that character's identity isn't particularly notable to begin with.
i would look at Luxord as the Master of Masters. the master of masters put his eye to see the future in the keyblade he gave Luxu. but Luxord’s personally with the whole fate thing make me think that his gambler of fate is him looking into the future. and thats why he gave Sora the wild card.
It a fun theory to joke about but I honestly hope it's not true.
People should stop with this foolishness. The Master of Masters is definitely his own character, I’m 100% certain
But why????? Why set up a hidden face for all these characters for essentially no reason??? He'll just take his hood off and we'll see a brand new face as if is supposed to be a huge reveal......... And nothing. It will be severely underwhelming and anti-climatic. I can't get on board with him being a brand new character.
I'd rather it be revealed to be Pete before I'd be okay with it being a new person.
Dance water dance
Demyx is the key to everything
Master of Master Yen Sid? lol. I love Demyx tho
Watching Back Page is what sold me on Demyx being MoM.
Not just a goofy personality, his mannerisms and body language are also strikingly similar.