2025 Honda Civic new engine options
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- On this video I cover the 2 past and 2 new engines introduced to the 2025 Honda civic.
Thanks for watching don’t forget to smash the like button, subscribe and hit the notification bell for future content.
For daily content please follow me on Instagram and Facebook @bcautosolutions
-Honda 1.5t head gasket issues: • Honda 1.5t head gasket...
-Honda 1.5t head gasket issues continued: • Honda 1.5t head gasket...
-Maintenance schedule: • Honda and Acura detail...
-Honda/Acura scan tool: • Launch x431 Elite for ...
-Best borescope: • Depstech ds520
-Brunt work wear discount link: bruntworkwear.... use HondaMM10 at checkout for $10 off your $60+ purchase
Disclaimer:
The sole purpose of this video is for informative and educational purposes of my process and experiences. Bc auto solutions/hondamobilemechanic is not responsible for any individual actions taken from this video. Always wear protective hand, eye, ear, and respiratory equipment. Results may vary and are not guaranteed. Use this information at your own risk. Always seek professional help in diagnostics and repairs.
All music is copyright free.
#hondamobilemechanic #honda #acura #typer #fk8 #civic #accord #crv #pilot #passport #odyssey #tlxtypeS #civic #integra #hrv
Manufacturers need to realize that mpgs won’t matter when these are all in the shop
true
@@capy_official yea truth is every cars going to need maintenance
That 1.5t will not be missed.
My experience with it so far is okay but I totally agree. I was also trying to avoid it.
A ton of people can agree. It’s fun to drive just not fun on the wallet
@@BCautosolutionsstill odd how they're kind of just fine in the Si. I guess enthusiasts do take better care of their cars, but imo appliance engines shouldn't require as much maintenance as the 1.5t does
Bye Felicia!
The 1.5t has been nothing but a plague. Why did Honda insist staying with it for so long?!?! Crazy….
Watching this while driving a 06 tsx k24 with 260k, reliability of this car is in another level.
💯
277k on my 2010 accord 🤝
@@Kaohteeko206k 08 Accord cracking VTEC beautifully 🤝🏽
I cried when I totaled an 05 accord manual w/ 200k on it when I hit a deer. It had sooooo much more life left. Didn’t burn any oil, got great MPG, easy to work on, not that it needed much of anything… And I’d just done the clutch in it myself. RIP K24.
The K20C2 needs to be brought back since it is the gem engine of the lineup
Agreed but this is the beginning of the end for it.
@@BCautosolutionsimagine if they make civic hybrid on all of their trims
It’s almost like Honda wants to discourage non-hybrid purchasers.
My thoughts exactly
Glad I picked up a 2023 Civic with the K20 and 6MT when I did!
🙌
same here! Didn’t realize how special it was at first.
wuts wrong wit this new hybrid engine?
K20C2 being replaced just hurts my soul
Same
Ya, that motor was simple and damn near bulletproof. Leave it to Honda to create a problem where one didn’t exist.
@@BCautosolutionsI love that engine man
Honda best engine for awhile nown
cry bout it, nah fr be happy the car isnt full electric
The new base 4cyl Civic:
1) less power
2) less torque
3) more complex with direct injection so possibly less reliable
4) no MT option
5) more expensive
That's 5 negatives in order to gain 0.5 mpg combined. WTF Honda 🙄
At least they got rid of the 1.5L junk and now the base and the premium engines are more defined 👍
Similar acceleration as the 2007 Civic head..
Yeah a ton of backwards for a smidge better epa crap
I’m interested to see the economy numbers on this Atkinson cycle motor. You’re buying this car to hyper mile, not race it.
@@Timbuckley01gas mileage isn’t even better by 1 mpg and my camaro gets over 35 mpg on the highway😂😂
@@BCautosolutionsthat’s every manufacturer. I hate it. Toyota is going the same route.
Hooefully someone does driving impressions of the new base engine
I will
I feel lucky for picking up a red 24 sport hatch with the K20 manual
You are 🤣
I picked up a 24' LX Hatch in January, and pretty much knew then that the K20c2 was probably the last port-injected only engine to be manufactured. Now if I could have found a Sport with the 6MT I would have the perfect combo that would last several hundred thousand miles with proper maintenance. Hopefully, the CVT will last a good while with regular fluid changes.
💪🏼
No more V6 for the 2025 Camry, just one engine. Honda did away with their excellent V6 much earlier. No thanks to government’s interference with the EPA. 😏
Yep sad times
Hardly anyone bought the recent generations of the Camry with the V6 though.
Wow! That’s a big shake up. I will continue to drive my 2023 Honda Civic Sport then. I dig the 2.0 L K20 engine on it.
Yeah, surprised me
@@BCautosolutionsthey should have kept that K20 the original the way it was and now it’s removing port injection… that’s not any good. My Corolla 1.8 litre has the direct and port injection on my 2020, gonna keep it forever even more now. The 2024 Nissan Sentra has just the direct injection only….hopefully they are reliable but that makes me wanna keep my current car forever
The old K20 was great! Let's see how this new one goes.
I can say with a decent certainty that it’ll be more problematic. Hope I’m wrong
That base engine in the 10th gen was pretty good but I wanted more power and response and went to the L15. So far no issues and haven’t cracked 30k yet. I am taking maintenance and preventative advice from this channel for as long as I own it. If I end up trading in I will be going g for the hybrid. That new engine with the power reduction has me wondering about adequate performance.
Yeah I can’t imagine it being a competent commuter tbh. I’ll have to go drive one and compare.
My 2018 civic with 2.0 is so reliable. Glad I predicted that 1.5 will be a problem 😂. My wife wanted the top trip that time when we were buying but i hated the turbo so I convinced her to go with ex trim level and have the leather seats done by third party. So now we are enjoying the reliability of my choice. Regarding this new 2.0 atkinson engine replacing the k20c2 is mainly for Honda’s profit. It cheaper for them to make same engine in their line up than to make two different 2.0 for gas model and hybrid
Nice job 👏
🚙Should have titled video: 2025 Base Civic Engine changing from a low compression K-series MFi to a lesser power high compression L series Di.
I had to watch video several times, and then compare the engine specs on Honda's web site, to understand the changes.
Their press release was so busy talking about the Hybrid, this change was hidden.🚗
✅
Just saw automotivepress actually talk up the eclipse cross because it's actually made in Japan and is put together really tight.
Nice! Different standards in Japan 💯
I just tuned my 2.0l 2020 civic and it feels amazing just like it should’ve from factory. I wish Honda kept it for the new model year
@@rixzin5046 👏
I went from a 1.5T civic to an Elantra N. Having lots of fun. Hopefully it's more reliable than the L15BY I had in my Civic.
I drive a 2.0T Accord but that Civic Hybrid is so tempting to me. Doesn’t make any sense at all for me to get a new car so I’m not gonna do it but that just seems like it would be such a good little daily driver
Yeah I agree.
Why would they change the K20 to direct injection if the port injection was so reliable? Makes no sense and that is a significant HP drop!
Fuel economy maybe?
@@Ok_Mountain_8698 that would be comedic if that was the true reason.
Emissions. We could still get high revving k series engines if it wasn't for the EPA.
The EPA has Honda and all the other manufacturers by the balls.
Emission regulation, the old K20s and old VTEC J series are not going to meet the emission standard in the future. They already drop K24 earlier for the same reason.
Wait and see,the Guinea pig will not be me 🎉🎉🎉
👀
I just got rid of my tlx type s for a championship white fl5. Couldn’t be happier
✅
@@BCautosolutions I’m curious as someone that’s pushed that platform as hard as you would you be interested in an fl5?
From what I understand the new 2.0 does not have true vtec lobes anymore since it’s an Atkinson style engine. The bore and stroke is also much different than the k20c2. Can you confirm this? If so, RIP. Honda as lost its soul. I don’t care for the new civic lineup as you can no longer get a 6mt. More power in the hybrid or not. No manual.
Yea there are differences. I plan on making a video covering some more in depth details between the k20c2, k20c9, Lxxx from the hybrid.
My 1.5t in my 2017 lx hatch 6mt has had no issues an im at 90k oil changes always at 5k not a single issue
@@chadmcquade3075 thanks for sharing, best of luck 👍🏻
Thanks for the info. HR-V still using the K20C2.
Yea it is for now. MMC may change that
Of course turbo engines aren’t as reliable as naturally aspirated. From what my mechanic told me, the 1.5T’s will last but you must be more frequent with oil changes…which is a no brainer but unfortunately not many people care to change their oil on time
That is 1 part of the problem yea
I wish they'd bring back the awesome K20A1-2 and K20Z1-3..
Me too
Why was toyota able to make a new and improved version of the 2.5, and Honda couldn't do the same for the 2.4? 🤔 C'mon man....
Different approaches
Is it a wrong step for Honda to go DI for the hybrid 2.0L engine? Cannot see any substantial improvement, but brings carbon buildup concern long term.
The past couple hybrid engines are also direct injection and yes it poses its own share of issues. Epa regulators and demands are making it harder and harder on manufactures that ultimately the consumer pays for up front and long term
@@BCautosolutions I think Honda should have invested dual injection technology 😅 fix all problems (emission, power, carbon).
Toyota, VW, now even BMW is adding dual injection to their proven B58. Shame on Honda being engine pioneer and lagging here.
Absolutely agreed
That’s a shame. Change it In the civic but not the accord! ALSO got mine back after the SECOND head gasket two weeks ago. Everything has been good but I’ve been driving it a lot less until I either trade out of it for the new Camry or give it to my brother. I’ve lost faith in Honda unfortunately. New or old engine, that can have it all. I wish others the best of luck but I’m done lol
Have the 1.5 in the Si, no issues at 40k. I also don’t drive my car like a Nissan though I’m sure half these failures are stupid ass kids in HS/College. People who don’t respect cars.
Thanks for sharing, best of luck
@@godsentkings they don’t and it’s sad but I know for 1, I PRIDE myself in taking care of my car. Everyone might not have issues but you also don’t have over 100,000 miles either. Doing research Honda had issues with the 1.5 in the past with other vehicles as well as “oil issues” but nevertheless I hate that I waited for the new Accord to be going though this all because ECONOMY is the biggest thing.
Somebody knows what’s going on but Honda doesn’t won’t to foot the bill to do a recall. It’s too expensive
Numbers I'm seeing right from Honda is 150HP/133TQ for the new 2.0.
Yes, down from the k20c2 which is a step backwards 😩
Looks like honda making their cars with less power now. Seems the 10thgen 1.5t and 2.0 10thgen type r and the generations below that had the most power and stronger and race like. The 11thgen civics seem to be like economy cars only . Like a basic car
@@TheRealityChannel7-h7r safer usually is better long term, just sucks for enthusiasts
@@BCautosolutions I understand, I liked the 10thgen more super car race look. Especially the hatchback and Si's
@@TheRealityChannel7-h7r ✅✅
@@BCautosolutions I got the 1.5t hatchback 10thgen. I changed exhaust and upgrade high flow filter I didn't replace with open air filter because I didn't want heat soak but that's it and I'm going to put a 3inch front pipe on it but no downpipe. Only downpipe if I change stock internals and all that other stuff. And no mufflers. I do have body kit so does look more aggressive but not trying to over do it. Maybe when I get my other car back up the Toyota , I got few more things to do to it
@@TheRealityChannel7-h7r thanks for sharing and your thoughtful mods as well.
I bet that both engines will still be more reliable than the 2.0T that Honda offloaded from the Accord
@@Blank00 well so far the 2.0 hybrid has had more failures then the 2.0t
If you want the K20C2, which is Hondas most reliable engine that they currently offer, the HR-V is your last option.
@@Fadic4 ✅
It was a awesome engine! Will be missed
@@kckuc310 which one? The c2?
While Honda is at it they can ditch the CVT too. Replace it with a manual.
Im with ya but not happening lol
They need a reliable DCT
Yes to manuals
@@Paco_Burrito_Suave mass market doesn't want manuals, enthusiasts do and that's why the overpriced type r has a manual
Another difference between K20C2 and K20C9 is compression ratio: 10.8/1 vs 13/1. More likely to blow head gaskets or get knock with cheap fuel?
@@stevenr1354 Atkinson cycle and direct injection on the c9. There are major differences. I have a video on this exact topic tonight
my dad got one in black its amazing
Congrats
Honda doesn’t know what the hell they're doing anymore. Their reliability scores have gone downhill.
@@dualityofman1253 I believe they are turning the corner with the axing of the 1.5t
Hopefully the turbo in everyday cars continues to leave . I hate turbo cars i have had 2 cars with them from honda and ford and i hated them equally
@@brewsterking9973 only the na hybrid power option is the happy medium for most
Hybrid engines make more sense for NPC level driving than DI turbo engines do. Toyota was doing it right all along. can't wait for Honda to drop the 1.5t CRV and Accord next.
Im on board with the hybrid stuff tbh, the turbo stuff is way too problematic long term
If Im not mistaken, I’m sure the 2018-2022 “K20C4” is a turbocharged direct injection engine.
Yes it is. The k20c2 is totally different which is what was in the previous years base civic.
@@BCautosolutions interesting! So “K20C2” were port injection before the transition to direct injection?
Yes
I was going to trade in my 2022 CRV 1.5t for an HRV with 2.0 NON TURBO but wife said twas too small. Luckily I got a 2024 Rav4 2.5 gas 2k under sticker and WOW. I get 2-4 MPG in city and Highway and has an Atkinson with direct AND PORT injection!!!! Wake up Honda! I still have our 2005 accord and it's awesome so when I pay off the Rav I hope u still use brains and make a gas Ridgeline or Pilot!!!
@@Tom-ej8bb direct and port injection is a great combo 💯
Wow 2-4 mpg you must be ecstatic. Much worse than my '66 Malibu 283.
It'll be interesting to see if the K20C9 has any carbon buildup problems at all honestly. If you look at a technical breakdown of the 1.5T motor, you'll notice how the direct injectors are actually installed in such a way where some of the spray does make contact underneath the valves themselves.
I'm not sure if Honda did the same thing with the C9, but it would be a no brainer to port (no pun intended) that design over so the injectors can clean the valves at least partially.
It still sucks that its direct injected anyways, cause you now have extra high-pressure systems inside the engine that are a pain to maintain if something ever does go wrong with the fuel system. But regardless, carbon buildup is the biggest problem of direct injection so it'll be nice to see if the C9 will in fact not have that issue or not.
If Honda has done this on the GDI versions of their K24 (2013-2022), L15B1 (2015-2020 Fit), K20 turbo, and J35, then it will most likely be on the C9
If you want a new Honda get a 2024 while you can with the old K20. If not, wait for the long term 3 year reviews from all the New Jerseyans that put 100,000 miles on the vehicle to see if it’s worth it.
@@avery4528 😅
Thank god the people that have gotten hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles out of there 1.5 can sleep tonight that POS is gone.
Not that many with hundreds of thousands problem free.
Hopefully better reliability than my 18 accord 1.5t. I have had to replace so many parts before 140k. Bad injectors,turbo went out,multiple coils,ac condenser leak, praying head gasket doesn’t blow cause thats a common problem.now ac clutch starting to slip under acceleration. Love the car but the 1.5t is trash.
@@LukeMcfadden-wt8qf yeah let’s hope it is for sure. You listed all the common issues. Sorry for your troubles
Someone owns a Type R FL5 and test drove the 2025 Civic Hybrid.
He said the Civic Hybrid has more pickup horsepower when driving in the city than his FL5.
of course it does, hybrid has electric torque down low and type r has turbo lag
At lower speeds yes, because of the instant torque from the electric motors, if at higher speeds you will know the difference instantly.
Probably for a few hundred Rpm’s due to the electric motor assist. After that it stands no chance.
😂
and Id still rather have the FL5...which I do
Traded my accord sport 2020 in cause of the 1.5 BS
@@jaythegreat4944 what did you get?
Driving a 2011 crv. K24
hows it been?
This engine is very reliable but it’s seriously underpowered for 2025 though
@@vighneshramesh2569 severely underpowered 💯
Nothing yet on the Si engine? Is it true the Aegean blue is being discontinued?
Haven’t heard anything
Based on the Canadian specs, it’s a 1.5T
@@Emkaiii yeah I don’t see the so doing away with the 1.5t unless it got a detuned 2.0t which I do not see happening.
141 hp that sucks. I never buy the base trim but for somebody that wants the base trim. I’m mean that’s a big drop compared to 158hp I would guess?
It’s actually 150 if I said anything else my appoligize, I can’t read all the comments either as I’m having some phone issues. Regardless it’s a drop in power
Is the k20c9 the same 2.0 in the accord hybrid (200hp or so)
No
Were the K24W from the 9th gen Accord and L15B1 from the 3rd gen Fit also Atkinson?
No
Bring back the J35 to the Accord!
💯
Really curious move for what seems to be almost no objective benefit for the consumer. I'm guessing that it must have significantly lower tailpipe emissions if I understand how DI works.
Yes, agreed
They dazzle the consumer with gadgets that play well with their phone and a sunroof to distract from the unproven powertrains while you wait for the tow truck.
That K20c9 looks just like that 1.8 sohc mpi fuel injected engine in the older models.
What about the 2.0L T that was in the accord a few years ago, and I think it's still in the RDX? Is it plagued with problems or is it designed better?
It’s been fairly reliable
Same engine in my 23 TLX. So far haven’t heard or seen any issues with the engine.
@@michaelbui6618 there are a few oil leaks that have required head replacements.
Hopefully the 2025 Si also got rid of the 1.5t
@@colombiano70 I just don’t know what they would replace it with. Some left over detuned 2.0t would be my move 😅
@@BCautosolutions yess 👏🏼
All new cars are throw away garbage now
😬
Also I don’t know if you covered this but Honda is having a issue with the a/c compressor shaft
Is the Honda Type 3.1 ATF compatible with the ZF Lifeguard 9 or any other fluid for the ZF 9 speed? Is Honda using a different fluid from ZF and the other manufacturers using the ZF 9 speed?
I’m not sure tbh
Same MPG but less power, what the point?!🤷🏻♂️
Exactly. Only thing left is lower emissions.
@@BCautosolutions hondata tech will help. 🤫😉
😅
@@Tashketskiy probably squeeze out an extra 5 hp lol
2024 SI with 6500 miles. No issues and I only put premium gas in it. 😊
🙌
The MIC you're using is awful.
It’s your earbuds, sounds fine to me
@@Ok_Mountain_8698no, it's not my earbuds.
Anyone else? I can try a new one
@@BCautosolutions Yes, there's some distortion in your outdoor audio.
Use a q tip?
Awesome move Honda. 1.5T was a disaster so you killed it. I will have a memorial service for the K20C2 this weekend. Naturally aspirated is also a great call. Now we just need a manual instead of CVT and there is hope for this brand.
✅
We have seen a 23 crv with a flat cam off the truck
🤦🏻♂️
Interested in your thoughts on the 25 Civic hybrid engine model. As for 1.5L, Buh Bye!
I’ll make a video when I have one in front of me to see if there any visible changes vs the current hybrid stuff.
@@BCautosolutions Good deal. I see where Toyota decided to go hybrid only with the new Camry.
Hond's back in the game
✅
Rambling, unfocused narration…I couldn’t finish watching it.
Cool 👍🏻
Why don't they make hybrids for the Acura products?
🤷🏼♂️
they wanted acura to go full EV, but its safe to say they might be changing their minds about that
@ShaiyanHossain They should change their mind.
The powertrains in the MDX and RLX Hybrid are gems. Imagine if they tweak it more toward fuel efficiency, that would be nice.
How is the the engine in the 2020 Acura ilx a-spec thinking about buying one for my wife for a daily
They are excellent! Fun to drive yet economical.
Great combo
unfortunately .. . neither of those engine options are for the enthusiast ...
Do you observe any vtc actuator on the 10th gen accord 2.0t? I have a noise similar to the vtc actuator noise on cold startup only
@@htcsultanone no
@BCautosolutions could it be a bad belt tensioner? I replaced the belt and the tensionser with Oem one, but the tech struggled to put the belt
@@htcsultanone could be anything tbh. If you have a sound file of the noise send it to bcautosolurions20@gmail.com see if I can hear something
@BCautosolutions I will do so, God bless you 🙏
@@BCautosolutions Hello.I have emailed you with the audio file of the noise
Arh. Should I sell my 21 hatchback 1.5T and get BMW X1?😂 or stick with Hybrid 😅 Mine Civic has only 19K miles
My vote is the hybrid
Only Honda I considered buying, gone.
😬
This new engine has VTEC like the previous engine?
They took this 2.0l engine from their current hybrid system and make this engine can run itself, according to the family engine parts, you can assume this is a R20 with direct injection(not sure about the VTEC since their new hybrid engine don't have VTEC).
It does not
I would not buy that Honda Civic with just the 2.0 L Atkinson engine. It will have poor acceleration and when loaded, even worse acceleration. I had the 2008 and 2014 Civic EX and they had poor acceleration and power. I think that Honda is making a big mistake putting such a weak engine in the base 2025 Civic LX. They are forcing you to buy the Hybrid model since the 1.5T is gone. I have 3 Hondas now with 1.5T, 2 Civics and 1 CRV, and they have been trouble-free.
Just remember that it’s recommended to replace the engine oil changes with greater frequency due. In addition, flushing to the engine coolant earlier than what Honda recommends. That helps reduce the possibility of falling victim to those blown head gaskets. I surely miss that 3.0 V6 engine. It was robust and powerful.
All they care about is the epa regulations it seems
@@BCautosolutions During the Obama Administration, those CAFE standards were dramatically changed. The EPA was given much broader powers and authority over the automotive industry. We’re seeing those changes take its toll on the consumers.
@@jamram9924 automakers are just as guilty for compliance. look at all the crossover+truck sales on the road today. The US did the whole fuel economy thing wrong. Other countries do it right with strict size+weight ratings on vehicles or strict taxes.
I mean honda civics have never been fast in a straight line. the hybrid motor is better in the long run for consumers vs 1.5t. and makes more torque.
Kinda mad about the new bumper it looks a lot cleaner. I should have waited a bit longer man
Does look nice
is the Hybrid direct injection too?
Yep
Yes it is
The hybrid looks promising based on all of the POV drives I've seen but this base Civic would be a hard pass for me. If you're forcing me into a CVT then I'm going with the Corolla. Currently own a K20C2 6MT.
I say keep what you have at this point imo.
@@BCautosolutions My 1 and only gripe is how slow it is. I came from the DSM world and was tired of wrenching on things... But damn... It needs another 100hp. Lol 😂
Is there a way I can get rid of this cvt off my 24’ civic sport and out a 10 speed off an accord or any diff. Transmission from an older civic??
@@marthcjm9511 with enough money sure, is it worth it? No
@@BCautosolutions I’m fixing to idc how much cause 11th gen body style looks so nice and it being fast would make it immaculate
c
Common sense comment.
At this point, Just get the hybrid 🤣👎🏽 That new 2.0 N/A gonna be trash, Direct Injection is a no no 😐
Hybrid is also direct injection. I’m just concerned with the overall lack of acceleration on the base engine.
Oh, I didn't know the hybrid has direct injection 😭 But since its a hybrid and runs on the akensen cycle, Idk if I spelled it correctly but I don't think the Hybrid will be an issue and I never heard of any issues relating to the hybrid yet 👍🏽 @@BCautosolutions
There have been some that I mentioned