Another example of a plot hole sinking the entire enterprise as it were was when Zane wrote Barbara back into existence without giving an explanation, it's like in comics when a character dies and comes back a year later the writers have to create explanation that makes sense in the world they're writing in if not people would end up like Zane and Jagger.
I would love it if AW2 has a scene with Alan writing and we see the scene reshaping as he goes, the scene starting out sinister and reshaping before us as he nails down each detail to leave no room for the dark place to twist it.
I think this time reality is going to change before our eyes in some parts from what I saw sofar that is what happens there's a part were Alan does a fully gravity blast that sends a massive sound blast forward bit to me it look like there's a indication that aw2 will definitely point hints at control style there already using controls layout style even the words pop up displaying your mission objectives definitely has control mechanic's but there's a part during the the reveal footage were Alan does a massive sound wave blast and we see the dimension shifts from normal reality to the other reality it almost look similar to Jack Joyce powered up sound blast move which definitely is telling us as fan quantum break definitely is in the remedy universe but we all know quantum break is Microsoft I think uncle Phil and samlake needs a sit down and talk I know uncle Phil loves the remedy games aswell but maybe remedy decided to let quantum break go and make a new version of Jack Joyce through Tim breaker I almost cried when I saw Martin hatch acting as Mr door magnificent actor r.i.p Lance Reddick
I personally imagine that probably each thing Alan changes takes some amount of 'energy' out of the story, so I love the idea of him using extremely terse sentences to nail down key details in the story, and making the rest an inevitable implication. It's got the feel of watching a master craftsman create something with just a few simple motions, but somehow the exact piece they intended comes out.
Just the fact his style changes tells us that he is learning on how to manipulate the dark place. One could argue if it is a better or worse prose than his original style. But for the purposes of this dimension it is better.
the "A story is not a machine that does what you tell it. A story is a beast with a life of its own." line of Alan Wake is so powerful it became my philosophy in writing and making stories either in actual writing or in artform. easily one of my personal fave episodes
I keep coming back to that line a lot. I use it as a Turing Test for literature at this point. Does it feel like the author forced events or does the story feel organic.
This Night Springs episode is one that I like due to the whole ‘i don’t know what else to write’ part. It does seem to mirror Alan, who is struggling to write something in the beginning of AW1, and if I’m correct Alan does take some of his old writing (like Alex Casey, Night Springs) and try to incorporate those characters and locations to escape, which I find interesting. Also with the Dark Presence literally needing creative people to get it to escape, you can say that the Dark Presence… has an Absence Of Creativity… Good video
One thing I'd add is I find it appropriate that the 'creator' here is voiced by the same actor for Dr. Hartman. Absence of Creativity and needing others indeed.
I learned years ago that when Tolkien ran into trouble when writing a chapter he would just go back to beginning and rewrite the whole thing and he got a bit further each time.
One trick I'm trying to do is write the whole thing and not worry about the quality. Then on the second draft worry about quality and redo it all. I'm working on some short stories of my own and having difficulties lol.
I reckon AW2 releasing is going to be like breaking the surface after free diving, a whole new world (or worlds) to drink in just as you thought you were going to run out of air. I look forward to it.
So basically if you lose the plot everything could come tumbling down and you're back at square one, Alan must've made that mistake a few times already otherwise he'd be back in New York with Alice already.
Either the greatest of writing genius or deliberately poking complete fun at themselves, Remedy have managed to create a setting where when asked the question "how does this work?"; The answer "uhhhh idunno" can become an entire antagonist for a game or the entire basis of a character. Literally anyrhing the writers want to explore or do can be done, because the answer for why internal logic doesnt have to carry over between games is "because something has changed the rules"
I love this setting because it is a weirdly good head space for a writer to be in. Anything contrivance or plot hole can cause bad things to happen. So you better pay attention to what you're doing.
He TRIED giving himself super powers for a bit in the first story, the ability to imagine words and turn them into things. But as often as it was useful, it got twisted against him. Things were far more grounded in the latter game.
Hello Gaming university, question: is there a way to safely at discreetly sent an art image your way. I ask because I'm currently having a landscape art commission down what I imagine my mental landscape is like, and would like your thoughts just for the heck of it
@@GamingUniversityUoG really appreciate it chief, just trying to come up with and steer it into the right themeing & symbolism to accompany it, almost like a personal psychonauts level, considering including figments, the only problem is fitting main facets of mind/personality, I wonder if Tim schafer ever experienced this?
Welcome back mr gaming University havent seen ya in ages you been m.i.a so mr when do we see your view on the recent alan Wake revealed GamePlay ive noticed alot of things we all mentioned in your past videos have been actually put into alan wale 2 i think remedy is watching your channel even mr lake has mentioned i am surprised about all these theory's ppl have come out with its really quite great and he loves how others have come with theory's that definitely connect the remedy universe in ways even Mr lake wasnt thinking i think hes talking about your channel and possibly me aswell i still think jack joyce aka Tim breaker and jessie are going to come in from the future as control is present time and alan wake is past tense but tim breaker and jessie will be the ones to free alan wake when alan says this isnt the story you want to know its because as you said alan still yet to fillfull his initiation phase remedy fully looks into that aspect this time around i also think alan wake is guiding saga and alex casey to were alans life had changed well also finding out that the FBI was actually the FBC a wars brewing the cults have distrupted something and its caused brightfalls to go weird simce the 1970s we also could witness the Anderson brothers in the 1970s when they themselves were fighting the shades but as the Anderson's mentioned bobby baulders passed away from likemia but in actual fact the Anderson's went along with that when actually baulders was killed by a shade or one pf the Anderson's had to put him down theres also other members of the sons of Asgard that wasnt mentioned in the past so alan wake 2 will be remedys setting the record straight but mr lake is definitely loving the theory's were all contributing to this amazing unique universe somehow it feels like maybe remedy is starting to write our story's into there game i also think alan wakes writers block was because tim breaker and jessie faden have changed alans past when they got sruck in the 1970s in control 2 since the a2 GamePlay footage dropped mr knock appeared and yes you were right all these years mr knock is Martin hatch and we do see him in one of his final roles before he passed away recently r.i.p Mr Riddick 😭 we will never forget your contribution to the remedy Universe also mr ashmore is coming to slan wake 2 aswell omfg all the gangs here now this definitely starting to show all our theorys are actually coming true its like were all the writers and remedy is the world of alan wake manafesting our writings man if ppl actual dive in to all the remedy verse games theres a massive amazing story that somehow connects the past with the present yay few more months and a2 drops i am definitely going to buy it on Xbox digital it will cost over 100dollars for me im in new Zealand the country that pays alot for stuff from overseas its why nz never reps in video game tournaments anywhere in The World its to costly for us to maintain bit anyway welcome back mr and i await your next video possibly about the the latest alan wake footage that droppedvfrom remedy hq
I'd love to read down in your comment but I have skipped the new trailer or gameplay info. I want to go into my stream of the game as blind as possible.
@@GamingUniversityUoG ok cool yeah go in blind but others are starting to take over Trying to explain what's happening in the Alan Wake universe I try to not look there but I'm a fan of AW and all the games so I watch there reviews and theory's bit I like your presentations more than others it's why I fully started looking into the remedy games I'll catch u later Mr xbox time
Because I am choosing not to look at the new trailer or the new gameplay. I want to experience it as blind as possible. It's less fun if I know what to expect. But if you're looking for gameplay breakdowns I'll direct you over to Hidden Machine. They have videos up on the gameplay.
@@GamingUniversityUoG i prefer your breakdown, but i can respect wanting to go into it blind. Im going to appreciate you making this video as im going through AW now. Was just excited to see your breakdown.
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Another example of a plot hole sinking the entire enterprise as it were was when Zane wrote Barbara back into existence without giving an explanation, it's like in comics when a character dies and comes back a year later the writers have to create explanation that makes sense in the world they're writing in if not people would end up like Zane and Jagger.
I would love it if AW2 has a scene with Alan writing and we see the scene reshaping as he goes, the scene starting out sinister and reshaping before us as he nails down each detail to leave no room for the dark place to twist it.
I presume the whole manuscript is written before the start of the game. But live reality alterations would be cool to see.
I think this time reality is going to change before our eyes in some parts from what I saw sofar that is what happens there's a part were Alan does a fully gravity blast that sends a massive sound blast forward bit to me it look like there's a indication that aw2 will definitely point hints at control style there already using controls layout style even the words pop up displaying your mission objectives definitely has control mechanic's but there's a part during the the reveal footage were Alan does a massive sound wave blast and we see the dimension shifts from normal reality to the other reality it almost look similar to Jack Joyce powered up sound blast move which definitely is telling us as fan quantum break definitely is in the remedy universe but we all know quantum break is Microsoft I think uncle Phil and samlake needs a sit down and talk I know uncle Phil loves the remedy games aswell but maybe remedy decided to let quantum break go and make a new version of Jack Joyce through Tim breaker I almost cried when I saw Martin hatch acting as Mr door magnificent actor r.i.p Lance Reddick
Boy do I have good news for you
I personally imagine that probably each thing Alan changes takes some amount of 'energy' out of the story, so I love the idea of him using extremely terse sentences to nail down key details in the story, and making the rest an inevitable implication. It's got the feel of watching a master craftsman create something with just a few simple motions, but somehow the exact piece they intended comes out.
Or watching an artist sketch.
Just the fact his style changes tells us that he is learning on how to manipulate the dark place. One could argue if it is a better or worse prose than his original style. But for the purposes of this dimension it is better.
the "A story is not a machine that does what you tell it. A story is a beast with a life of its own." line of Alan Wake is so powerful it became my philosophy in writing and making stories either in actual writing or in artform. easily one of my personal fave episodes
I keep coming back to that line a lot. I use it as a Turing Test for literature at this point. Does it feel like the author forced events or does the story feel organic.
@@GamingUniversityUoG so true! It was my basis to see if the writing is actually good, great or it feels fake for the sake of being fake.
This Night Springs episode is one that I like due to the whole ‘i don’t know what else to write’ part. It does seem to mirror Alan, who is struggling to write something in the beginning of AW1, and if I’m correct Alan does take some of his old writing (like Alex Casey, Night Springs) and try to incorporate those characters and locations to escape, which I find interesting.
Also with the Dark Presence literally needing creative people to get it to escape, you can say that the Dark Presence… has an Absence Of Creativity…
Good video
One thing I'd add is I find it appropriate that the 'creator' here is voiced by the same actor for Dr. Hartman. Absence of Creativity and needing others indeed.
I learned years ago that when Tolkien ran into trouble when writing a chapter he would just go back to beginning and rewrite the whole thing and he got a bit further each time.
One trick I'm trying to do is write the whole thing and not worry about the quality. Then on the second draft worry about quality and redo it all. I'm working on some short stories of my own and having difficulties lol.
Head-canon: The man standing in the narrative void is played by the writer of the episode.
The host in Alan Wake talking about Alex Casey is the same guy who shot himself in quantum theory skit he also voiced the scientist in this video
Yeah I believe his name is Mark Blum. Played Hartman, Maurice Horton, Dr. Barclay Colvin, etc.
I reckon AW2 releasing is going to be like breaking the surface after free diving, a whole new world (or worlds) to drink in just as you thought you were going to run out of air. I look forward to it.
Agreed. 13 years of waiting has been torture. Our struggle echoes Alan's
@@GamingUniversityUoG Just remember to play it for fun the first time, it wouldn't do for you to go into the experience just looking for content. :)
So basically if you lose the plot everything could come tumbling down and you're back at square one, Alan must've made that mistake a few times already otherwise he'd be back in New York with Alice already.
We've seen it happen already in this setting
I get to wake up listening to a night springs on the way to work? Dope!
Drive safe dude and enjoy
Absence of Creativity oh yay an episode about Modern Disney lol.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
Oh dear shots fired lol
Plot twist: AW2 has a remake of Absence of Creativity that adds nothing at all.
@@Generallybreak The AUDACITY lol.
I'd like to hear your theory about how Alan has been stuck in the Dark Place using a typewriter for so many years but still types like a noob.
Some people like the two finger peck typing. Who knows.
That's the real reason it's taking so long for him to write his way out of the Dark Place 😄
I know of an author that's published almost 100 books all told that freely admits to typing like that!
@@lyzzle True, an author shouldn't be judged by how they type. Everyone's got a style
Either the greatest of writing genius or deliberately poking complete fun at themselves, Remedy have managed to create a setting where when asked the question "how does this work?"; The answer "uhhhh idunno" can become an entire antagonist for a game or the entire basis of a character. Literally anyrhing the writers want to explore or do can be done, because the answer for why internal logic doesnt have to carry over between games is "because something has changed the rules"
I love this setting because it is a weirdly good head space for a writer to be in. Anything contrivance or plot hole can cause bad things to happen. So you better pay attention to what you're doing.
He TRIED giving himself super powers for a bit in the first story, the ability to imagine words and turn them into things. But as often as it was useful, it got twisted against him. Things were far more grounded in the latter game.
notice the perfect voice match for one of the ladies at start with Kimmy Robertson (Lucy Moran) from Twin Peaks
I've actually never watched all of twin peaks! That's crazy!
This Night Springs episode was the first thing I thought of during the opening monologue to Control.
This is one of my favorites.
One of the most memorable for sure
great analysis!!
Thank you!
Another well made NS video done!
Thanks buddy
Wonderful as always! Thank you!
Thank you dude! Glad you enjoyed
Oh my god looking at this after playing alan wake 2 that’s such a paralle for how he’s trying unsuccessfully to write his way out of the dark place.
Hello Gaming university, question: is there a way to safely at discreetly sent an art image your way. I ask because I'm currently having a landscape art commission down what I imagine my mental landscape is like, and would like your thoughts just for the heck of it
Yeah you can message me on Twitter or discord. Info is in the description. If you dont have those I can figure something out
@@GamingUniversityUoG really appreciate it chief, just trying to come up with and steer it into the right themeing & symbolism to accompany it, almost like a personal psychonauts level, considering including figments, the only problem is fitting main facets of mind/personality, I wonder if Tim schafer ever experienced this?
@@GamingUniversityUoG also I tried your discord link, but it says it no longer exists
7:08 Wait. What game is This?
American nightmare
When god has writers block...😬
Kind of a scary thought
Welcome back mr gaming University havent seen ya in ages you been m.i.a so mr when do we see your view on the recent alan Wake revealed GamePlay ive noticed alot of things we all mentioned in your past videos have been actually put into alan wale 2 i think remedy is watching your channel even mr lake has mentioned i am surprised about all these theory's ppl have come out with its really quite great and he loves how others have come with theory's that definitely connect the remedy universe in ways even Mr lake wasnt thinking i think hes talking about your channel and possibly me aswell i still think jack joyce aka Tim breaker and jessie are going to come in from the future as control is present time and alan wake is past tense but tim breaker and jessie will be the ones to free alan wake when alan says this isnt the story you want to know its because as you said alan still yet to fillfull his initiation phase remedy fully looks into that aspect this time around i also think alan wake is guiding saga and alex casey to were alans life had changed well also finding out that the FBI was actually the FBC a wars brewing the cults have distrupted something and its caused brightfalls to go weird simce the 1970s we also could witness the Anderson brothers in the 1970s when they themselves were fighting the shades but as the Anderson's mentioned bobby baulders passed away from likemia but in actual fact the Anderson's went along with that when actually baulders was killed by a shade or one pf the Anderson's had to put him down theres also other members of the sons of Asgard that wasnt mentioned in the past so alan wake 2 will be remedys setting the record straight but mr lake is definitely loving the theory's were all contributing to this amazing unique universe somehow it feels like maybe remedy is starting to write our story's into there game i also think alan wakes writers block was because tim breaker and jessie faden have changed alans past when they got sruck in the 1970s in control 2 since the a2 GamePlay footage dropped mr knock appeared and yes you were right all these years mr knock is Martin hatch and we do see him in one of his final roles before he passed away recently r.i.p Mr Riddick 😭 we will never forget your contribution to the remedy Universe also mr ashmore is coming to slan wake 2 aswell omfg all the gangs here now this definitely starting to show all our theorys are actually coming true its like were all the writers and remedy is the world of alan wake manafesting our writings man if ppl actual dive in to all the remedy verse games theres a massive amazing story that somehow connects the past with the present yay few more months and a2 drops i am definitely going to buy it on Xbox digital it will cost over 100dollars for me im in new Zealand the country that pays alot for stuff from overseas its why nz never reps in video game tournaments anywhere in The World its to costly for us to maintain bit anyway welcome back mr and i await your next video possibly about the the latest alan wake footage that droppedvfrom remedy hq
I'd love to read down in your comment but I have skipped the new trailer or gameplay info. I want to go into my stream of the game as blind as possible.
@@GamingUniversityUoG ok cool yeah go in blind but others are starting to take over Trying to explain what's happening in the Alan Wake universe I try to not look there but I'm a fan of AW and all the games so I watch there reviews and theory's bit I like your presentations more than others it's why I fully started looking into the remedy games I'll catch u later Mr xbox time
Dude why did you do this instead of breaking down the AW2 gameplay first ?
Because I am choosing not to look at the new trailer or the new gameplay. I want to experience it as blind as possible. It's less fun if I know what to expect.
But if you're looking for gameplay breakdowns I'll direct you over to Hidden Machine. They have videos up on the gameplay.
@@GamingUniversityUoG i prefer your breakdown, but i can respect wanting to go into it blind. Im going to appreciate you making this video as im going through AW now. Was just excited to see your breakdown.
Make us wHOLE again...
No Hole! Pun Trophy over here