Oh well that's just great.....I don't have any use for plugs, I don't have a plug cutter or a table saw but now I want to make plugs using the TC method! 😀 Great vid as usual TC, thanks for posting 👍
I have the same plug cutters as mine came to Oz with me from UK. I must admit to the screwdriver technique. Never tried the table saw trick but then I don't carry a table saw with me either. The old school way I still use also is a dowel plate. Big thick chunk of plate steel with various size holes drilled in it. If I want plugs of the timber I am using split off a piece a bit larger than the plug size you want and then hammer it through the required size hole in the plate forming a round peg. Cut off whatever plugs you want. When we used to do all the draw dowel tenons years ago that is how we made all the dowels on site out of the timber to match.
Hi Dave. The dowel plate is proper old school, but fantasticly simple and effective, and keep meaning to get/make one🤓 It's cool just reading about how you make your own dowels for drawing up stair string/newel tenons as stairs are possibly my favourite thing to fit, and the more complicated the better🤯 Great comment mate, and thanks for watching😎
never thought of doing them like that before.... also when i use plugs i went and bought the veritas flush cut pull saw from axminster. great bit of kit for cutting plugs off
Hi Paul. You're not the only person who has recommended the Veritas pull saw for cleaning these plugs back👍I really must look into getting one🤩 Thanks for watching mate😎 Cheers Del
Hi Del great tip thanks, and looked like you had a great day at the construction and timber expo with Tony and the A&E team and the shirt & cufflinks reminded me of the carpenter I trained with Years ago he always wore a shirt and tie to work 😊 nice touch have a great weekend 👍
Crikey Rob, you've got great eyesight mate🤓 It's was great fun with Tony and the A&E crew at the show and thanks for watching both my video and thiers🤩🤩 Hope you also have a nice weekend 😎
Hi there I cut mine same way, or band saw. I find Screwdriver csn snap then of short or dent them when in pine. The pellet cutters are actually real easy to sharpen with a diamond hone. One of the thin credit card types fit between ok to sharpen the face refine the top bevel.
Hi O Bez. I was actually looking to see if I could sharpen my cutter, but my file was too big. It might be worth me getting one of the little diamond hones to do it🤩 Great comment 😎 Cheers Del
I think Ray Mears calls it his fire starting tool Dai🤣 I get what you're saying about making a little jig to stop it skipping about👊 Thanks for watching😎 Cheers Del
Hi Tony. These cutters are only made from high speed steel and loose thier edge quite quickly😬 That's no excuse for me though mate, as my plug cutter is probably 15 years old and should have been replaced ages ago🤪 #Imatightwad. Thanks for watching bud🤩
Great tip Del . I plug almost everything because I hate to see frames etc with filler over the fixings, and you are right prizing them with a screwdriver makes them uneven with can lead to them going in on an angle. I will definitely be using your Method in the future. The plug cutters always end up burning out…. It’s a right pain!! I generally buy eBay ones. Which do you use out of interest?
Hi Paul. I think my plug cutter is a Trend Snappy one. I've had it absolutely ages, and it's well past its best. I like this particular type as it cuts the plug slightly tapered👍You're approach is, ultimately, the best as the timber plug shrinks/swells with the timber, unlike filler which usually stands ever so slightly proud once the timber has settled down🤩 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching 😎
@@thetallcarpenter oh sorry mate, just wondering why you should cut the plug to make it straight, as you already have a straight side after drilling one - the side that was already visible
Here is a question for you TC unrelated to the great video. I'm hanging rebated prefinished dark navy blue doors. Customer has brought your normal albeit decent quality flush bolts and wants them in the rebate. This is a quality job so no tiny grain tears or anything like that. Customer hates ball catches(so do I). Customer does not want face fix tower type bolts either. Have you ever come across other methods? I was thinking some type of magnet in the head but not sure if that would work on the slave leafs. To make matters worse they are fire doors. Any thoughts?
Hi Benjanin. Your comment got worse the more I read down it🤯 You've pretty much got a full house of difficulties there and all on pre-finished doors😖. If I get the gist of it though, you need to bolt the slave leaf of a rebated pair, but the customer doesn't want to see flush or surface mounted bolts? Top, flush mounted roller catches are not great, I agree. What colour/finish are the hinges, latches and handles?
@@thetallcarpenter Hi TC. Thanks for replying. The hinges and ironmongery are are brushed stainless steel. The customer has purchased 100mm long flush bolts which he wants mounted in the rebate, which as you know with a 22mm rebate and an 18mm wide flush bolt machining them in will be fun. I will have to make a jig for most of the processes, can't be driving out a lot of the material because if any of the swarf/ drilling debris catches the stained prefinished rebate it is possible it could mark it. Not to mention the fact you only have a few mill to play with.
@@benjaminhunt283 There's a real issue here though Benjamin, that the slightest heavy treatment of the doors, either slamming or falling into, could just shear the flush bolts straight out the face of the door because it's got no meat around it😵 I'm not sure you're customer is being realistic in terms of what's possible and is asking you to fit something in a position it is not designed to work in😬
If the doors have a RAL colour get some bolts coated to match is the only way to go. Could possible put the star key type shoot bolts up and down, and have some aluminium escutcheons anodised to colour match the door. Like Del says, hardware has been refined over hundreds of years to do specific jobs in specific situations, and do so reliably. As you note, working outside those parameters is pushing it too far. At home I have a pair of premanufactured oak veneered glazed doors which I rebated. There is
@@baldyslapnut. Great input BS, and thanks for putting it here. I think using a star key bolt will be cool as the escutcheon is really small, or you could actually colour coded washer and just bond it on, which might not stick out 👍Cheers bud😎
Hi Garviel. My Mrs was reading through a few of my comments this week, and came across one you had made. She noticed your name and thought it was unusual, so I Googled it. I had absolutely no idea that it was the name of Warhammer character. So now I know that Garviel Loken was the captain of the Lunar Wolves of the Space Marine Legions 10th Company💪 Brilliant and thanks for watching bud😎
I know you can buy tapered plugs, but It never even occurred to me that you can buy tapered plug cutters! 22 years of faffing about cutting straight ones and digging them out of the hole 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Thank you for this video, it’s like a revelation 🤣 Can you recommend a brand of cutter please?
Hi Kris. There a few tapered type cutters, but the one I use is the Trend Snappy one👍Being only HSS it doesn't keep its edge that long but they still work, just a bit smokey. (not that it stopped me😆) Thanks for watching😎
@@thetallcarpenter great thank you. I’ll get some ordered and give them a try. I’ve got some oak stairs to finish in the next few days and I hate plugging the holes lol.
Hi Del, really inspired by your work. I have an awesome cut roof that needs building with crank steel frame. Would love you to build it. Let me know how we can get in contact. 👍👍
Hi there. Thanks so much for your comment👍I am unable to take on any new customers due to a high work load with my current ones😬 Where abouts in the country are you? Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for your reply. I'm in Leicester. Its a very interesting project in Leicester, big cut roof with crank frame, you can make video series if you like. I can send you the plans?
@@ProGamer-no8fm Hi there. I asked where abouts you are as I can recommend a couple of great roofing carpenters, but I know neither of them would travel that far. Unfortunately, I can't be of any help this time😔 Cheers. Del
Hi Paul. Dowel will do the job fine, but you see its end grain. Cutting plugs allows you to match the direction of plug with the direction of the timber you are working on. It also tends to shrink the same down the same, unlike the end grain of dowel👍 Thanks for watching😎
Was it the smoke/steam billowing out of it sicpac 🤪 I was going to get a new one for the video, but I'm trying to preserve my diesel at the minute so went with my 25 year old one🤣 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching😎😎
Oh well that's just great.....I don't have any use for plugs, I don't have a plug cutter or a table saw but now I want to make plugs using the TC method! 😀 Great vid as usual TC, thanks for posting 👍
Hi Abbo. Your comment is brilliant🤪 and thanks for watching bud😎 Have a great weekend 😀 Cheers Del
An excellent Friday tip... You just never stop learning in this game..
Hi Gavin🖐 You are certainly right mate, and there is always something you didn't know right around the corner👊 Thanks for watching mate😎
Ahhhh ….. Simplicity n Accurate . I like .
Cheers William😎
Had seen this done on the bandsaw but never thought about doing it on the table saw - genius! Will give this a go next time I need some plugs.
Hi Darren. It works a treat bud, and my blunt plug cutter was the only week part of this plug making chain😵 Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Another brilliant little tip from a top guy...have a good one
You're very kind Arthur🤗 Thanks for watching 😎
Same as find a pillar drill works great 👍☘️🇮🇪🤟😁
Hi John. Yeah, a pillar drill is the best tool for making these by far🤩 Thanks for watching😎
I have the same plug cutters as mine came to Oz with me from UK. I must admit to the screwdriver technique. Never tried the table saw trick but then I don't carry a table saw with me either. The old school way I still use also is a dowel plate. Big thick chunk of plate steel with various size holes drilled in it. If I want plugs of the timber I am using split off a piece a bit larger than the plug size you want and then hammer it through the required size hole in the plate forming a round peg. Cut off whatever plugs you want. When we used to do all the draw dowel tenons years ago that is how we made all the dowels on site out of the timber to match.
Hi Dave. The dowel plate is proper old school, but fantasticly simple and effective, and keep meaning to get/make one🤓 It's cool just reading about how you make your own dowels for drawing up stair string/newel tenons as stairs are possibly my favourite thing to fit, and the more complicated the better🤯 Great comment mate, and thanks for watching😎
Great little tip del . Have a great weekend 👍
Hi Ozzy🖐 Thanks for watching bud, and same back to you🍻 Cheers
Nice Del good tip.😊👍have a good weekend.
Cheers Peter. Hope you also have a nice weekend and thanks for watching😎
Another great tip there TC, would never have thought about table saw or skill saw. The Veritas flush cut saw is great & quick to trim them flush. 👍👍
Hi Kevin. I've actually used or owned one of those type of flush cut saws, and really must get one🤗 Thanks for your comment and watching 😎
never thought of doing them like that before.... also when i use plugs i went and bought the veritas flush cut pull saw from axminster. great bit of kit for cutting plugs off
Hi Paul. You're not the only person who has recommended the Veritas pull saw for cleaning these plugs back👍I really must look into getting one🤩 Thanks for watching mate😎 Cheers Del
Great tip Del, nice one. 👍
Thanks for watching Barry😎
Hi Del great tip thanks, and looked like you had a great day at the construction and timber expo with Tony and the A&E team and the shirt & cufflinks reminded me of the carpenter I trained with Years ago he always wore a shirt and tie to work 😊 nice touch have a great weekend 👍
Crikey Rob, you've got great eyesight mate🤓 It's was great fun with Tony and the A&E crew at the show and thanks for watching both my video and thiers🤩🤩 Hope you also have a nice weekend 😎
Hi there
I cut mine same way, or band saw. I find Screwdriver csn snap then of short or dent them when in pine. The pellet cutters are actually real easy to sharpen with a diamond hone. One of the thin credit card types fit between ok to sharpen the face refine the top bevel.
Hi O Bez. I was actually looking to see if I could sharpen my cutter, but my file was too big. It might be worth me getting one of the little diamond hones to do it🤩 Great comment 😎 Cheers Del
Ray Mears wants his plug cutter back😁.
You can use any thin sheet material to make a jig to stop the plug cutter from skipping about.
I think Ray Mears calls it his fire starting tool Dai🤣 I get what you're saying about making a little jig to stop it skipping about👊 Thanks for watching😎 Cheers Del
Nice to keep them vids coming at us mate … and some good tips on the pellets … looking forward to ur next project del 👍🏻 ave a good weekend bud
Hi Sa. thanks for watching bud, and your kind words🤩 Hope you too, have a great weekend😎 Cheers Del
Great video Del, thanks !!!
Thanks for watching Michael🤩 Have a great weekend bud😎
Nice tip Del, thanks! 👍🏻
Hi Ed🖐 Thanks for watching bud, and great to see you doing well over on Robins channel🤩 Have a nice weekend👍
@@thetallcarpenter thanks Del! It’s all very new to me, slowly getting used to it 😂 hope you have a great weekend too!
Haha, class little neat trick.,I'll be using this,, cheers buddy, 👍👍😉
Glad you found it helpful Peter👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Call the Fire brigade
She was a bit smokey Alan🚒
Hi Del great tip, why do they always smoke when cutting, nice to see the auger bit being used all the best Tony 👍
Hi Tony. These cutters are only made from high speed steel and loose thier edge quite quickly😬 That's no excuse for me though mate, as my plug cutter is probably 15 years old and should have been replaced ages ago🤪 #Imatightwad. Thanks for watching bud🤩
that's brilliant. thank you
My pleasure G&K🤩Cheers Del
Great tip Del . I plug almost everything because I hate to see frames etc with filler over the fixings, and you are right prizing them with a screwdriver makes them uneven with can lead to them going in on an angle. I will definitely be using your Method in the future.
The plug cutters always end up burning out…. It’s a right pain!! I generally buy eBay ones. Which do you use out of interest?
Hi Paul. I think my plug cutter is a Trend Snappy one. I've had it absolutely ages, and it's well past its best. I like this particular type as it cuts the plug slightly tapered👍You're approach is, ultimately, the best as the timber plug shrinks/swells with the timber, unlike filler which usually stands ever so slightly proud once the timber has settled down🤩 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching 😎
Great handy tip 👍
Cheers Paddy🤩 Tganks, as always, for watching mate😎
To stop it skipping around keep a 2 by 6 strip of 1/4 ply, cut a plug at 1 end, use it as a jig to seat your cutter,
Great suggestion Francis🤗Cheers Del
Used to hate cutting plugs before I done this, absolute pain
Do you ever use a riving knife on your table saw?
Hi there🖐I use it occasionally, depending on what timber I'm cutting👍Cheers Del
Why not turning the plugs around, keep the outside outside?
Hi there🖐Not sure I understand your question😬Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter oh sorry mate, just wondering why you should cut the plug to make it straight, as you already have a straight side after drilling one - the side that was already visible
Here is a question for you TC unrelated to the great video.
I'm hanging rebated prefinished dark navy blue doors.
Customer has brought your normal albeit decent quality flush bolts and wants them in the rebate.
This is a quality job so no tiny grain tears or anything like that.
Customer hates ball catches(so do I). Customer does not want face fix tower type bolts either.
Have you ever come across other methods?
I was thinking some type of magnet in the head but not sure if that would work on the slave leafs. To make matters worse they are fire doors.
Any thoughts?
Hi Benjanin. Your comment got worse the more I read down it🤯 You've pretty much got a full house of difficulties there and all on pre-finished doors😖. If I get the gist of it though, you need to bolt the slave leaf of a rebated pair, but the customer doesn't want to see flush or surface mounted bolts? Top, flush mounted roller catches are not great, I agree. What colour/finish are the hinges, latches and handles?
@@thetallcarpenter Hi TC. Thanks for replying. The hinges and ironmongery are are brushed stainless steel.
The customer has purchased 100mm long flush bolts which he wants mounted in the rebate, which as you know with a 22mm rebate and an 18mm wide flush bolt machining them in will be fun.
I will have to make a jig for most of the processes, can't be driving out a lot of the material because if any of the swarf/ drilling debris catches the stained prefinished rebate it is possible it could mark it. Not to mention the fact you only have a few mill to play with.
@@benjaminhunt283 There's a real issue here though Benjamin, that the slightest heavy treatment of the doors, either slamming or falling into, could just shear the flush bolts straight out the face of the door because it's got no meat around it😵 I'm not sure you're customer is being realistic in terms of what's possible and is asking you to fit something in a position it is not designed to work in😬
If the doors have a RAL colour get some bolts coated to match is the only way to go. Could possible put the star key type shoot bolts up and down, and have some aluminium escutcheons anodised to colour match the door. Like Del says, hardware has been refined over hundreds of years to do specific jobs in specific situations, and do so reliably. As you note, working outside those parameters is pushing it too far. At home I have a pair of premanufactured oak veneered glazed doors which I rebated. There is
@@baldyslapnut. Great input BS, and thanks for putting it here. I think using a star key bolt will be cool as the escutcheon is really small, or you could actually colour coded washer and just bond it on, which might not stick out 👍Cheers bud😎
Top Tip as usual
Hi Garviel. My Mrs was reading through a few of my comments this week, and came across one you had made. She noticed your name and thought it was unusual, so I Googled it. I had absolutely no idea that it was the name of Warhammer character. So now I know that Garviel Loken was the captain of the Lunar Wolves of the Space Marine Legions 10th Company💪 Brilliant and thanks for watching bud😎
@@thetallcarpenter Hahaha! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
@@thetallcarpenter 👏👏👏Bravo! Bravo!
@@garvielloken3929 You learn something everyday bud🤩👍
I know you can buy tapered plugs, but It never even occurred to me that you can buy tapered plug cutters! 22 years of faffing about cutting straight ones and digging them out of the hole 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Thank you for this video, it’s like a revelation 🤣 Can you recommend a brand of cutter please?
Hi Kris. There a few tapered type cutters, but the one I use is the Trend Snappy one👍Being only HSS it doesn't keep its edge that long but they still work, just a bit smokey. (not that it stopped me😆) Thanks for watching😎
@@thetallcarpenter great thank you. I’ll get some ordered and give them a try. I’ve got some oak stairs to finish in the next few days and I hate plugging the holes lol.
@@0000kris0000 😎👍
Band saw is great to cut them out too
Hi Stuart. I actually think a bandsaw would e better than a table/circular saw👍 (I really wish I had one to be honest🤔). Thanks for watching 😎
@@thetallcarpenter great info look forward to always learning plenty on your channel thanks
@@stuarthawthorne87 🤩😎😎
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Thanks for watching Wayne🤩
Great tip though 👌
Cheers Alan, and thanks for watching 😎
Hi Del, really inspired by your work. I have an awesome cut roof that needs building with crank steel frame. Would love you to build it. Let me know how we can get in contact. 👍👍
Hi there. Thanks so much for your comment👍I am unable to take on any new customers due to a high work load with my current ones😬 Where abouts in the country are you? Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for your reply. I'm in Leicester. Its a very interesting project in Leicester, big cut roof with crank frame, you can make video series if you like.
I can send you the plans?
@@ProGamer-no8fm Hi there. I asked where abouts you are as I can recommend a couple of great roofing carpenters, but I know neither of them would travel that far. Unfortunately, I can't be of any help this time😔 Cheers. Del
Start it in reverse first, it wont skip about after that.
Hi Matthew🖐 Great tip, I'll give it a try when I get my new plug cutter👊 Thanks for watching 😎
What about using dowel? Or have I got that wrong too? 😁
Hi Paul. Dowel will do the job fine, but you see its end grain. Cutting plugs allows you to match the direction of plug with the direction of the timber you are working on. It also tends to shrink the same down the same, unlike the end grain of dowel👍 Thanks for watching😎
🙌🏻😉. ☕️
Thanks for watching Dan🤩 Enjoy your breakfast mate☕🥐
@@thetallcarpenter thanks Del. 👊🏻
Hey buddy. I look after my tools and have them for years.. but I think you need let go and get yourself a new plug cutter🤣🤣🤣
Was it the smoke/steam billowing out of it sicpac 🤪 I was going to get a new one for the video, but I'm trying to preserve my diesel at the minute so went with my 25 year old one🤣 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching😎😎
Well it does seem very bland I’ve just bought a new one from Axminster 12 mm
Hi Colin🖐I really need to get a new one too👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter you have a very good skill set Very nice joinery from garden tables to 1st fix roofs
@@powderpuff1964 Very kind Colin🤩Cheers