Yea, I actually liked the unicorn. The planet reminds me of Reddit communities with no logo (I think they changed it at some point but it used to be a planet that looks exactly like that)
@@Glendragon what about haters ? They can use this to send out bad messages and well since they are haters they should know enough to pass the test , this is from the basis of "know your enemy"
@@NekoMimiOfficial Well, if it's a small user base, it is much easier to ban/kick and more obvious to everyone else who the bad actor is. Also, imagine hate-watching a person's entire RUclips channel just to pass a quiz LMAO
@@johnxue4468 i believe people like that exist , sure they may be countable on hand , still it feels nessesary to point that out so they can figure out a way to solve it (eg an ai like the one that scans YT vids which ig ben should have a good idea of , or make the community creators add some mods when quizes happen)
Don't forget pinned messages in the main feed. I imagine it will be cluttered with reactions after every quiz, so it would be good if the influencer can pin a message for all newcomers.
@@d.bk-201 I agree with sai, there are too many screens. He will lose people to that. You can't build a business model with like the 2 users that get through.
@@massa_art you say that but users bounce off your page if it takes longer than 1 second to load. People are impatient. The quicker the process, the more conversions = more monetary value of the app.
@@akshaysinha2711 I agree with you 100% because of UX principles, hence it is still advised as it's the right thing to do but superfans and stans wait in blistering cold, drive hours across their country, donate tonnes of money for their respective person of interest, my point is there's no way that would stop them, maybe a regular fan who would have been eliminated anyways.
man i really really hope you guys don't go through with this idea, it's literally a breeding ground for unhealthy parasocial relationships; I'd be surprised if influencers are actually into it, considering the people who get obsessed enough to want to pay money to be in a special fan club are probably explicitly the type of people the influencers don't want to be close to. The "Man, I didn't get in...I'm gonna try extra hard next time!" line kinda reveals that, too-- try hard at what? What does it mean to try hard there? Fall deeper into what could easily already sort of be an obsession? And using Jake Paul as an example, someone who specifically targets children with their content, also kinda reveals an underlying part, which is that this is probably going to attract obsessive minors, which makes them extremely prone to grooming as well. I'm just legitimately worried about the effect this could have on legitimizing toxic relationships between fans and creators if influencers somehow pick it up, lol. The cliche Jurassic Park "could"/"should" quote and all
@@threelie7537 yeah, it's not a beef with ben at all, he's a great developer who was a huge help to me when i started getting into web dev. i'm studying AI in college and one thing i've noticed is that we as developers tend to get so caught up in the possibilities of our tech and the "solutions" we're able to create that we don't think about the ramifications of it. (an obvious example would be China building on facial recognition tech to target the Uyghur population) i hope ben is able to read this in the good faith it's written and soberly assess whether or not this idea is a good thing for the world :)
@@slimestoneexpert9804 cmon now, bud, i feel like you know that isn't an honest response, haha. if fb implemented a feature where pages could have "gated communities" for "superfans" where they compete with one another just to be in the same chatroom as an influencer, i'd say that's bad too. ben is putting this up on the internet for feedback and criticism, and i don't feel like it's responsible to just join a circlejerk when in 90% of use cases it will just create elitism in a community and unhealthy parasocial interactions and in 10% of use cases it could wind up with kids being groomed lol
Ben: I don't care if you guys don't like the name. I'm going to keep it. Also ben: oh thank God I have an excuse to not use the original name since i was so smug about not changing the name
Ben being stubborn enough about changing the logo until the point of a github issue mentioning possible legal issues (of course not the fact that you look like a birth control company) is the epitome of why we love Ben.
I haven't watched your video yet, but i do remember liking the designs so it's sad to see the designer go. Then again it's good to see that you are willing to do that if you decide it's right in order to prevent further problems/hassle down the road.
Definitely want to add some sort of social sharing on your results screen so people can brag and share their results to build a buzz around the Astral brand - All the best with the project Ben
The unicorn logo relates much better with idea of the app. A unicorn is a special kind of horse and your app is supposed to make the fans feels special.
The unicorn logo is so much cleaner. And honestly, the unicorn idea/theme seems like it would almost be more appropriate. One of the secondary definitions of unicorn is "something that is highly desirable but difficult to find or obtain." Is that not the perfect explanation for this platform? You are essentially earning the status of a "unicorn fan" through a series of testing--a status that is difficult to obtain. Jus'sayin...
This is actually a pretty great app idea given he get a few influences on board with it. Just bringing together the disparate by jointly important functions of patreon/discord/reddit for content creators/their communities. Interested to hear about how it all falls apart over the course of the next few videos.
Are you parlaying into the world of sound design at all? Some of the screens that you mentioned seem like they could have background music or sound fx? Idk if this route would be a priority tho. Love to watch your Journey!
All this planning, and I'm just kind doing it. Not sure if sh*t will scale right and whatnot (well, I do worry about it and both server and DB is managed). Making USD is different than making BRL, but man, I do not have 1/5 (if less) the knowledge Ben has and my App is somewhat towards to the stars right now. it is a financial success so far at least. Just wishing luck for everyone in my shoes right now. Here is a cheers so the scaling goes well!
Still think the connection of “Stars connecting with fans” somehow equating to space and stars makes your pitch weak. You don’t see themed sites anymore, it’s function over form. Even on heavily theme apps like Snapchat, which is made to be zany, only goes as far as caricatures and some neon highlighting.
Benjamin. Patience my friend. Make SMALL FREQUENT REVERSIBLE changes. Also I hate to sound like THAT guy, but don’t forget infrastructural, coding architectural, and performance best practices, don’t take the easy way outs 😤. Yosh!! 💪🤓
at 5:35 you create your profile after entering the community, but don't you already login earlier with your phone number? Also doesnt creating an account only after you are accepted into a group imply that one person can only be in one community? Maybe that is intentional or maybe you intend for users to have unique profiles for each community they are in.
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These startups are just side jobs to come up with material for Ben's real job as a comedian.
He's a comedian for long time, look up his old videos about Angular
Yea, I don't think these are serious.
hahahhahahahah
No, he is rapper.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
hard truth: the unicorn logo is cool af
The unicorn logo looks way better!!!
I agree.
It’s also from Dribbble
@@timr3682 I think at this point it would be better to buy the rights of something from such websites.
@@abhishek.rathore this one is going to expensive because the designer is one of the best
The planet kinda looks like Samsung Internet browser and the unicorn goes HARD, like easily top 5 unicorn company
Yep, looks just like Samsung internet
I liked the unicorn better too
Yea, I actually liked the unicorn. The planet reminds me of Reddit communities with no logo (I think they changed it at some point but it used to be a planet that looks exactly like that)
Was about to say that
The unicorn made me think of uniswap. I did prefer it tho.😅
I wish my mom knew about "Starter UI Kits" and how to spot them.
Hello William are you still doing “how it’s done in RN” series
his mom is a ui ux designer, so she probably has exp with design templates lol
Just subscribed to your channel 🙂
you should do the design for him
This is the React Native collaboration that has to happen!
I'm starting to think this guy might be serious about wanting to make an app and isn't just memeing around.
2 months later: I’m quitting astral and moving onto a new startup.
@@mith6849 "... billion dollar unicorn company to the sun."
>ben probably.
Your game is the best!
Love your game stef
Hi Spaceflight sim guy
I can honestly say without irony: pick the unicorn logo.
Definitely
Might be too much 'gay pride', unless that's part of the business model or app's focus.
@@BattleGn0me dont even have to change the logo in june its so easy
"We wanna keep the chat clean"
* Allows users to upload own video *
20k users spamming messages vs 200 users that risk losing a lot more by being banned after they already won.
@@Glendragon what about haters ? They can use this to send out bad messages and well since they are haters they should know enough to pass the test , this is from the basis of "know your enemy"
@@NekoMimiOfficial Well, if it's a small user base, it is much easier to ban/kick and more obvious to everyone else who the bad actor is. Also, imagine hate-watching a person's entire RUclips channel just to pass a quiz LMAO
@@johnxue4468 i believe people like that exist , sure they may be countable on hand , still it feels nessesary to point that out so they can figure out a way to solve it (eg an ai like the one that scans YT vids which ig ben should have a good idea of , or make the community creators add some mods when quizes happen)
4:04 A chat where you can only post emojis? Tom Scott waited for this moment his entire life
LMFAO 😂
What did I miss?
@@peschebichsu Tom Scott created a set of mechanical keyboards that allowed you to type every emoji rather than letters :)
Yo!
@@Ratstail91 Yo!
Well atleast the dumpster fire of a name "AstralFans" is gone.
New logo seems more like samsung internet browser logo
I was thinking where i saw it 🤣
hahaha youre right !!
"Fired My Designer
- 02"
More like the samsung store
The unicorn fits so well! It implies something special and rare which is exactly what you want your uses to feel like
Ngl the unicorn logo looked 🔥
Yeah, I wanted the unicorn logo to be the real one.
It’s kinda similar to uniswap logo 🦄
Literally looks like uniswap logo🤨
This is the uniswap logo: www.crypto-nation.io/cn-files/uploads/2021/01/Uniswap-Logo.png. I don't think it looks like the Astral unicorn one (2:13).
current logo looks like that of Samsung Browser
Don't know why but the unicorn logo looks better imo
You better change your avatar with that unicorn logo
I dunno but doesn't fit with the font:(
Ben Awad, the main protagonist of your life.
haha nice
Lmao
I was wondering who I was extraing for...
The unicorn logo is likely the coolest thing I’ve ever seen
Don't forget pinned messages in the main feed. I imagine it will be cluttered with reactions after every quiz, so it would be good if the influencer can pin a message for all newcomers.
Email him, better chances he will see there
I thought the unicorn logo was way better, memorable
1:09 Happy that I can see myself in the issue thread, Sad that I'm a part of the thread which got a designer fired
I mean, the designer getting fired wasn't really a bad thing, and it was his own fault.
I mean, it was totally on him though.
Seriously, did that designer really think they were going to get away with that?
A designer actually designs things, so this one doesn't count.
does the designer even exist ?
Just read Refactoring UI 😎
You're haired
He is so formal that I can't even differentiate if he's being sarcastic or he's actually serious
Thats part of the appeal for me
You somehow need to communicate to users that there are "x" screens left, otherwise they will very likely loose motivation and quit the app
Not superfans
@@d.bk-201 I agree with sai, there are too many screens. He will lose people to that. You can't build a business model with like the 2 users that get through.
Depends how quick the steps or interactive the UX is going to be
@@massa_art you say that but users bounce off your page if it takes longer than 1 second to load. People are impatient. The quicker the process, the more conversions = more monetary value of the app.
@@akshaysinha2711 I agree with you 100% because of UX principles, hence it is still advised as it's the right thing to do but superfans and stans wait in blistering cold, drive hours across their country, donate tonnes of money for their respective person of interest, my point is there's no way that would stop them, maybe a regular fan who would have been eliminated anyways.
man i really really hope you guys don't go through with this idea, it's literally a breeding ground for unhealthy parasocial relationships; I'd be surprised if influencers are actually into it, considering the people who get obsessed enough to want to pay money to be in a special fan club are probably explicitly the type of people the influencers don't want to be close to. The "Man, I didn't get in...I'm gonna try extra hard next time!" line kinda reveals that, too-- try hard at what? What does it mean to try hard there? Fall deeper into what could easily already sort of be an obsession? And using Jake Paul as an example, someone who specifically targets children with their content, also kinda reveals an underlying part, which is that this is probably going to attract obsessive minors, which makes them extremely prone to grooming as well. I'm just legitimately worried about the effect this could have on legitimizing toxic relationships between fans and creators if influencers somehow pick it up, lol. The cliche Jurassic Park "could"/"should" quote and all
You raise an excellent point
I completely agree, i don't believe in this project unfortunately
That can happen on any social media site. You shouldn’t have to stop with ideas, if some try to use it malicious
@@threelie7537 yeah, it's not a beef with ben at all, he's a great developer who was a huge help to me when i started getting into web dev. i'm studying AI in college and one thing i've noticed is that we as developers tend to get so caught up in the possibilities of our tech and the "solutions" we're able to create that we don't think about the ramifications of it. (an obvious example would be China building on facial recognition tech to target the Uyghur population) i hope ben is able to read this in the good faith it's written and soberly assess whether or not this idea is a good thing for the world :)
@@slimestoneexpert9804 cmon now, bud, i feel like you know that isn't an honest response, haha. if fb implemented a feature where pages could have "gated communities" for "superfans" where they compete with one another just to be in the same chatroom as an influencer, i'd say that's bad too. ben is putting this up on the internet for feedback and criticism, and i don't feel like it's responsible to just join a circlejerk when in 90% of use cases it will just create elitism in a community and unhealthy parasocial interactions and in 10% of use cases it could wind up with kids being groomed lol
Plot twist: he never had a designer. This video is just him trying to cover up that he stole a logo design.
The more I watch this series of "Unicorn startup", the more this looks like an ancient Greek comedy.
ngl that unicorn logo looked dope
The designer designing astralfans logo: open astro logo in photoshop > select > inverse XD
The unicorn logo was better, honestly.
Ikr
With the name being Astral, I would focus on stealing a better name than a logo
The new logo looks like CosmicSkeptic's (particularly his podcast's) logo...
ahaahahah they are doomed
It’s literally it. 😂
Nah, his is a plain half planet, Ben's logo is better
i hate that i’m not the target demographic for this app. i could not give less of a shit about influencers
Maybe the toxicity of the followers of mainstream influencers will be concentrated into this app so average people won't have to deal with it anymore.
This feels like an exam
Ben: I don't care if you guys don't like the name. I'm going to keep it.
Also ben: oh thank God I have an excuse to not use the original name since i was so smug about not changing the name
frrr
Rebranding to just "Astral". Freaking called it.
"Good artists borrow, great artists steal."
- Banksy
The unicorn 🦄 logo was actually really cool!
Yaay it changed to Astral, great choice!
Astra is a better name tho
To all the people who wants the UNICORN logo to be used. The logo is actually not theirs so, using the logo is not an option
Your concept reminds me a bit of the Crrowd App by TechAltar. You have to do a quiz as well to access a gated community.
This feels like a school quiz
I love your honest comment on people quitting the app before they start using it.
Gatta say. That unicorn logo was unironically awesome
The unicorn was lit! Keep it!
Your new logo is definitely going to clash with my Samsung browser's one.
Unrelated but your voice is very calming, I almost fell asleep watching this video
welcome to the business world... Designers like this are all over, hope the new one is worth your time. Good luck!
your dry humour is god tier
Notification 15 minutes before the quiz, waiting room with a chat, countdown, greeting and starting the quiz... sounds a bit like HQ Trivia hahaha
Ben being stubborn enough about changing the logo until the point of a github issue mentioning possible legal issues (of course not the fact that you look like a birth control company) is the epitome of why we love Ben.
I love the mockups with one word typed on Calibri lol
Let the logo be the unicorn and allow your app to show users how serious it is, that way you give a sense of wonder before the nitty gritty starts.
4:06 Are you gonna ban the banana emoji 🍌🤭... the new logo just feels right and astral sounds better
I haven't watched your video yet, but i do remember liking the designs so it's sad to see the designer go. Then again it's good to see that you are willing to do that if you decide it's right in order to prevent further problems/hassle down the road.
I legitimately still cannot tell if he's serious or not.
This is like facebook group requests but slightly more modified
Feels like I am about watching a programming tutorial series
Extremely creative product Ben, wish you all the success
Can’t wait to sign up Ben :)
Looks good 👍, looking forward to see the designs
Billion dollar company stolen logo
The unicorn was on point!
That planet looks exactly like cosmic sceptic
The unicorn as logo looked great ben
Definitely want to add some sort of social sharing on your results screen so people can brag and share their results to build a buzz around the Astral brand - All the best with the project Ben
When someone calls you out on your stolen logo so you pretend you had someone else make the decision who you fired to avoid a trademark suit
The unicorn logo relates much better with idea of the app. A unicorn is a special kind of horse and your app is supposed to make the fans feels special.
"if you're going to cheat, do a better job of it" - ben as a teacher
I love the sweet new logo!
LOVE YOU
I don't know why, but i fk*ng love these videos
The unicorn logo is so much cleaner. And honestly, the unicorn idea/theme seems like it would almost be more appropriate. One of the secondary definitions of unicorn is "something that is highly desirable but difficult to find or obtain." Is that not the perfect explanation for this platform? You are essentially earning the status of a "unicorn fan" through a series of testing--a status that is difficult to obtain. Jus'sayin...
That unicorn logo was lit though. I liked that one.
Planet vs unicorn logo is the "you vs the guy she likes" meme
Loved the unicorn logo!
Whoa whoa whoa new place mannnnn and you hopped over the moon
That’s less “inspired design” and more trademark infringement.
LOL ban the lil splashy one. I love you.
next video in my youtube queue is a fireship astro video, so this was very appropriate
This is actually a pretty great app idea given he get a few influences on board with it. Just bringing together the disparate by jointly important functions of patreon/discord/reddit for content creators/their communities. Interested to hear about how it all falls apart over the course of the next few videos.
Your idea is vertically integrating Zoom with Kahoot?
Maybe the color pattern is so well intervalled it was a coincidence but then again the title and I haven’t watched the rest yet haha
Nah man, in the same position too? That's just a lazy copy
Hey, can you link me a video in which you said: "You can use PHP and jquery if you like" in a sarcastic manner? It was very funny!
Are you parlaying into the world of sound design at all? Some of the screens that you mentioned seem like they could have background music or sound fx? Idk if this route would be a priority tho. Love to watch your Journey!
The unicorn slapped hard
Absolutely striking
All this planning, and I'm just kind doing it. Not sure if sh*t will scale right and whatnot (well, I do worry about it and both server and DB is managed). Making USD is different than making BRL, but man, I do not have 1/5 (if less) the knowledge Ben has and my App is somewhat towards to the stars right now. it is a financial success so far at least. Just wishing luck for everyone in my shoes right now. Here is a cheers so the scaling goes well!
Thats great cheers! what do you think is a good db when starting an app that will become really big over time
Still think the connection of “Stars connecting with fans” somehow equating to space and stars makes your pitch weak. You don’t see themed sites anymore, it’s function over form. Even on heavily theme apps like Snapchat, which is made to be zany, only goes as far as caricatures and some neon highlighting.
The unicorn logo was awesome!
💯
dang... The Unicorn logo looked dope af
Astral to the moon! 🚀
Benjamin. Patience my friend. Make SMALL FREQUENT REVERSIBLE changes. Also I hate to sound like THAT guy, but don’t forget infrastructural, coding architectural, and performance best practices, don’t take the easy way outs 😤. Yosh!! 💪🤓
0:11 this cut was better than all my good haircuts combined
at 5:35 you create your profile after entering the community, but don't you already login earlier with your phone number? Also doesnt creating an account only after you are accepted into a group imply that one person can only be in one community? Maybe that is intentional or maybe you intend for users to have unique profiles for each community they are in.
I think you should use the first app design you did, it was pretty!
He is alien from Rick and Morty
Alien 👽: Do you want to develop an app 😂😂
oh yeah, another inspiration dose 🙂
For what?
@@nanda_8 obviously for dose...
I’m trying to eat my cereal but I just can’t 🤣😂
Nice work, Ben
unironic meme at this point
This is like User Authentication lvl10000000000000
Best team lead ever! Where do we learn about how to join your development team?
5:57 did you use the Twitter bar as an example or why is it there?