Good morning, I am just starting to build my marklin model, I am very new and I have many questions, with the use of these signs the cantonment system can be replaced. excuse my ignorance. Thank you very much, greetings.
Hi Jastrunc, I am unsure what your question is... The stop sections are useful for some layouts but require expensive signals. I must admit I rarely use them. Consider what kind of signals you need on your layout, then if you really need stop sections. Enjoy ;-)
Many of the new steam locos have the slider on the tender such as 39662. I am confused why marklin located the slider on the tender. The signal should be placed two track lengths from stop section.
Hi Mike, true - having the slider in different places makes it difficult to make short stop sections. Surprised that the BR 06 (Märklin 39662) has it on the tender. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Michel, Unfortunately, I do not have K-track. However, the principle for wiring the signals is the same as for C-track. The differens is how to isolate. The manual comes with a good picture. As an example, check out page 36 for the Märklin 76491 manual: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf As I understand it most K-trackers solder the wires directly to the track. I am not sure how isolation between track work with K-track, but you can use the Märklin 7522. Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
I did also find this guide that might help. Be careful as you might damage your track. members.ozemail.com.au/~rossstew/rms/pdf/solder_track_cutting.pdf
Yes - the purpose for M84 is for turning on/off continous power. The M84 is basically a set of relays and can be used to turning on/off many things e.g. lights, signals and track power. I intend to cover this is a video within the next months. If you are impatient - check out page 14-15 in the manual: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a5/7d/a57d1381cfd17d74e7434cb76db190ed1566485190.pdf Depending on usage you migh also have to set CV79. Check page 18. Enjoy ;-)
Glad you liked it. Will look into the brake module sometime in the future, but it will probably take some time. Must admit I am a little hesitant as it is an expensive module... so a little unsure how useful it really is. An alternative solution is this one (in German) ruclips.net/video/g7vBXv8QeBk/видео.html Cheap, but requires some fix-it-skills... Enjoy ;-)
For the direct current therefore rolling stock and Trix armament the insulators to be applied should be only two and not four as you are doing on alternating current, right?
I have not experimented with Trix with these signals, so I can only look in the manuals. I see that the equivalent Trix signal has a different number than the Märklin one e.g. Märklin 70393 vs Trix 70391. Interestingly I find no manual on the Trix website for Trix 70391 - which means there is no guidance. Hence, I can only assume that the Märklin 70393 can be used with Trix but cannot guarantee it (I would find it very odd if it is not compatible). However, please consider this risk. Looking at the Trix straight track 62188 I see that there are indeed only 1 metal connector in each end - not 2 as on the Märklin 24188. My guess is that you are correct and you only need to insulate two - not four for the stop track. My guess is that when you have the stop section in front of you, then you need to insulate either the contacts pointing to the left or the right. If you choose the left, then you need to insulate contact to the left on the leftmost track of the stop section and you need to to insulate the contact to the left on the track to the right just before the stop section. Does this make sense? Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
Ahhh - I forgot the Märklin 70391 is just the 70393 without MFX. But that just makes it more mysterios that the Trix 70391 is marked as MFX on their website. I think this is a mistake and should say DCC. With this in mind I believe the Märklin signals are compatible with Trix ;-)
Excellent video. But I found a problem: loco doesn`t stop on the dead rail, he stops inmediately after he pass the dead rail. And when I close the circuit with another rails, he doesn´t stop never even with the signal in red. What can be ? Thanks a lot for your help!
Glad you enjoyed the video. To me it sounds like the dead section has power even though its not supposed to. To troubleshoot I would do the following. Set the signal to Green. Put a locomotive on the dead section. Turn on light for the locomotive. Set the signal to Red. If the locomotive light is still on, then the dead section is not dead. If its not dead then double check that the insulation tabs are present in both ends of the dead track section. You need two in each end (4 in total): one on the track in the dead section and one on the adjacent track. All 4 red insulators must be on the "inside" metal tab of the track. Verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped. If this did not help - remove any wire attached to any track in the dead section. Verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped. At this point the only thing you could have done wrong is the red insulators - double check them again. Put the locomotive on the dead track and ensure it is dead. Now add each wire in dead section you had before - one at a time. Each time you add a wire verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped. If something odd happens when adding the red wire to the signal - double check all wires to/from the signal. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks a lot for your answer! When I put a locomotive on the dead secton, without red wires, light still on. So the problem are the insulators indeed. Some of them are deformed (they are a little weak) and perhaps they do not make a correct isolation of the current. Is there any other alternative to replace the insulators? Many thanks in advance for your kindly help!
@@claudiog2379 I have not tried anything else and have always had success with the insulators. Please double check it is on the correct "metal tab" on the rail - need to insulate the "B" closest to the center rail. If you accidentially insulate the "0" (towards the side) it will not work. As for alternatives - I have not tried anything else, but I am sure somebody else have - ask around. Anytbody got a good alternative? Enjoy ;-)
@@claudiog2379 Yes, this will work, but will alter the track. However, this should be ok if it is a permanent layout - or you remember this piece of track is different. Have fun ;-)
Hello! I have a question when you are creating a dead section and signal is red. Is it possible to use the dead section as a contact track? If you connect a detection wire to the 0, what happens when a train is in the dead section with red signal, is it detected?
Yes - you can use the stop section as contact track as well. You connect the grey wire to the contact rail of the contact track (which is is the brown/"0"). The stop section (dead section) is achieved by cutting power to the red/"B". I will illustrate this in an upcoming video. Enjoy ;-)
If you look at this video you see that the contact is detected using the Brown. The stop section only affects the Red. Hence the stop section can also be a contact area. ruclips.net/video/asgop7QRIK8/видео.html Enjoy ;-)
I have one question, about proceed slowly: when activated, does it change the original speed of the loco? Thx for the effort and the very complete work!
hi i am a starter jn model train an dhave boucht a minitrix mobilestation can you maybe make a vid about minitrix becouse there is not a lot of content about it
Hi Jasper, Welcome to the hobby and I hope you have fun with your Minitrix starter set. The Minitrix Mobile Station (MS) is the same as the Märklin Mobile Station 2 (MS2). Hence, you can check out all the videos on the Mobile Station 2 in this playlist and it will also work for Minitrix: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sFts7dGFLb77e16yIodgG59 Just remember that Minitrix uses DCC (not MM as Märklin H0). There are also many videos available for you to get inspired. Check out any N-scale RUclips channel. In the N-scale world most people mix brands and products - you can do the same. Minitrix works fine with the other N-scale brands as long as it is digital (DCC). Hence, look fro RUclips channels focusing on N-scale. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
all explained very well, detailed, kind an thorough, my compliments!
Thank you kindly!
Cheers from Australia. Thank you nice and clear easy to understand.
Glad it helped! Have fun ;-)
Very well explained thanks
Hi David, Glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-)
Thank you. It's clear👍
Excellent - enjoy ;-)
Good morning, I am just starting to build my marklin model, I am very new and I have many questions, with the use of these signs the cantonment system can be replaced. excuse my ignorance. Thank you very much, greetings.
Hi Jastrunc, I am unsure what your question is... The stop sections are useful for some layouts but require expensive signals. I must admit I rarely use them. Consider what kind of signals you need on your layout, then if you really need stop sections. Enjoy ;-)
Many of the new steam locos have the slider on the tender such as 39662. I am confused why marklin located the slider on the tender. The signal should be placed two track lengths from stop section.
Hi Mike, true - having the slider in different places makes it difficult to make short stop sections. Surprised that the BR 06 (Märklin 39662) has it on the tender. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Thank you for these videos….very well explained..have you the same for K track ? Regards
Hi Michel,
Unfortunately, I do not have K-track. However, the principle for wiring the signals is the same as for C-track. The differens is how to isolate. The manual comes with a good picture. As an example, check out page 36 for the Märklin 76491 manual: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf
As I understand it most K-trackers solder the wires directly to the track. I am not sure how isolation between track work with K-track, but you can use the Märklin 7522.
Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
I did also find this guide that might help. Be careful as you might damage your track. members.ozemail.com.au/~rossstew/rms/pdf/solder_track_cutting.pdf
Thank you 😆
Can you also make a stop track without a signal for instance in a shadow station, by using a M84 decoder?
Yes - the purpose for M84 is for turning on/off continous power. The M84 is basically a set of relays and can be used to turning on/off many things e.g. lights, signals and track power. I intend to cover this is a video within the next months. If you are impatient - check out page 14-15 in the manual: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a5/7d/a57d1381cfd17d74e7434cb76db190ed1566485190.pdf Depending on usage you migh also have to set CV79. Check page 18.
Enjoy ;-)
Great video! Would like to see you do a video about the märklin signal brake modul m72442?.
Glad you liked it. Will look into the brake module sometime in the future, but it will probably take some time. Must admit I am a little hesitant as it is an expensive module... so a little unsure how useful it really is. An alternative solution is this one (in German) ruclips.net/video/g7vBXv8QeBk/видео.html Cheap, but requires some fix-it-skills... Enjoy ;-)
Here is one of the brake module with English subtitles. ruclips.net/video/1wQ3_3mXspg/видео.html
For the direct current therefore rolling stock and Trix armament the insulators to be applied should be only two and not four as you are doing on alternating current, right?
I have not experimented with Trix with these signals, so I can only look in the manuals. I see that the equivalent Trix signal has a different number than the Märklin one e.g. Märklin 70393 vs Trix 70391. Interestingly I find no manual on the Trix website for Trix 70391 - which means there is no guidance. Hence, I can only assume that the Märklin 70393 can be used with Trix but cannot guarantee it (I would find it very odd if it is not compatible). However, please consider this risk.
Looking at the Trix straight track 62188 I see that there are indeed only 1 metal connector in each end - not 2 as on the Märklin 24188.
My guess is that you are correct and you only need to insulate two - not four for the stop track. My guess is that when you have the stop section in front of you, then you need to insulate either the contacts pointing to the left or the right. If you choose the left, then you need to insulate contact to the left on the leftmost track of the stop section and you need to to insulate the contact to the left on the track to the right just before the stop section. Does this make sense?
Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
Ahhh - I forgot the Märklin 70391 is just the 70393 without MFX. But that just makes it more mysterios that the Trix 70391 is marked as MFX on their website. I think this is a mistake and should say DCC. With this in mind I believe the Märklin signals are compatible with Trix ;-)
The English name (or one of) for the "slider" connectors is spade connectors. :)
Hi Nikolaus, yes you are absolutely right - thanks. Enjoy ;-)
Excellent video. But I found a problem: loco doesn`t stop on the dead rail, he stops inmediately after he pass the dead rail. And when I close the circuit with another rails, he doesn´t stop never even with the signal in red. What can be ? Thanks a lot for your help!
Glad you enjoyed the video. To me it sounds like the dead section has power even though its not supposed to.
To troubleshoot I would do the following. Set the signal to Green. Put a locomotive on the dead section. Turn on light for the locomotive. Set the signal to Red. If the locomotive light is still on, then the dead section is not dead.
If its not dead then double check that the insulation tabs are present in both ends of the dead track section. You need two in each end (4 in total): one on the track in the dead section and one on the adjacent track. All 4 red insulators must be on the "inside" metal tab of the track. Verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped.
If this did not help - remove any wire attached to any track in the dead section. Verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped. At this point the only thing you could have done wrong is the red insulators - double check them again. Put the locomotive on the dead track and ensure it is dead.
Now add each wire in dead section you had before - one at a time. Each time you add a wire verify with the signal and locomotive as above to see if this helped. If something odd happens when adding the red wire to the signal - double check all wires to/from the signal.
Hope this helps!
Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks a lot for your answer!
When I put a locomotive on the dead secton, without red wires, light still on. So the problem are the insulators indeed. Some of them are deformed (they are a little weak) and perhaps they do not make a correct isolation of the current. Is there any other alternative to replace the insulators? Many thanks in advance for your kindly help!
@@claudiog2379 I have not tried anything else and have always had success with the insulators. Please double check it is on the correct "metal tab" on the rail - need to insulate the "B" closest to the center rail. If you accidentially insulate the "0" (towards the side) it will not work. As for alternatives - I have not tried anything else, but I am sure somebody else have - ask around.
Anytbody got a good alternative?
Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun I found an alternative: to cut the "metal tab" (very carefully) where the insulator goes. This solution works!
@@claudiog2379 Yes, this will work, but will alter the track. However, this should be ok if it is a permanent layout - or you remember this piece of track is different. Have fun ;-)
Hello! I have a question when you are creating a dead section and signal is red. Is it possible to use the dead section as a contact track? If you connect a detection wire to the 0, what happens when a train is in the dead section with red signal, is it detected?
Yes - you can use the stop section as contact track as well. You connect the grey wire to the contact rail of the contact track (which is is the brown/"0"). The stop section (dead section) is achieved by cutting power to the red/"B". I will illustrate this in an upcoming video. Enjoy ;-)
If you look at this video you see that the contact is detected using the Brown. The stop section only affects the Red. Hence the stop section can also be a contact area. ruclips.net/video/asgop7QRIK8/видео.html Enjoy ;-)
I have one question, about proceed slowly: when activated, does it change the original speed of the loco? Thx for the effort and the very complete work!
No - it only turns the power back on. Same as with Green. Enjoy ;-)
How is the connection between the signal and the Mobile station. Do you need something as a M 83 or something else ?
No you do not need anything else. Power to the signal from the track provides the path to the Mobile station for control.
This video shows the stop section - you can see the installation of the signal here: ruclips.net/video/0kx-uiHGA2A/видео.html Have fun both of you ;-)
Hi sir , where do I make contact with you, need some help please ,
Hi Vivek, you can see my email here: www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about I check this email once in a while, so please be patient. Enjoy ;-) Bo
That Ludmila is from Marklin or other company?
Hi Armin, yes - it is this one: www.maerklin.de/en/products/details/article/36424 Very nice, reliable and heavy model. I really like it. Enjoy ;-) Bo
hi i am a starter jn model train an dhave boucht a minitrix mobilestation can you maybe make a vid about minitrix becouse there is not a lot of content about it
Hi Jasper,
Welcome to the hobby and I hope you have fun with your Minitrix starter set. The Minitrix Mobile Station (MS) is the same as the Märklin Mobile Station 2 (MS2). Hence, you can check out all the videos on the Mobile Station 2 in this playlist and it will also work for Minitrix: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sFts7dGFLb77e16yIodgG59 Just remember that Minitrix uses DCC (not MM as Märklin H0).
There are also many videos available for you to get inspired. Check out any N-scale RUclips channel. In the N-scale world most people mix brands and products - you can do the same. Minitrix works fine with the other N-scale brands as long as it is digital (DCC). Hence, look fro RUclips channels focusing on N-scale.
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo