Excellent done! Great video and learned (again) nice things. I'll come back like you aks at the endin the video. In the meanwhile we're 4 months further and I don't see new video's. Hopelfully you come back soon with more. Thanks in any case for the many great video's! See ya 🙂
Hi, glad you like the videos, and you find them useful. Yes - unfortunately work has been busy, and I need to get back to filming again. I hope to soon put more videos on the channel. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks ! Understandable, work is priority. No stress 🙂 . Looking forward (but a your tempo) to your interesting video's of this wonderfull hobby ! Thanks in advance Bo !
Excellent, really excellent presentation, explanation and demonstration. You certainly do training in your professional life. Clear, easy to understand. A pleasure to learn through your support! Thank you
Another good video abort the 72442/1 breake module, but I always use a Dumb signals and a m83 with the breake module, it reduce the Price with over 66% pr. signal zone. Best Regards Olav
Hi Olav, I agree that the price of braking module with signals can be quite expensive especially if you have many signals where you would like to use the braking module on your layout. In this case dumb signals with M83 is indeed cheaper. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun I build in a small room of 9 square meters on 3 of the walls, to get more track surface I build in 3 height levels with 2 helix to be able to reach all 3 levels, level 1 and 2 have helix for 2 tracks for meeting to the level 3 have helix 1 track, there will be mostly locomotive garages up there so there will be most locomotives going up there. Level 2 is the main surface with several heights on the track, level 1 is an industrial area with several side tracks for setting up wagons.
Hello Bo, I have watched this video five times! Extremely interesting and allows just what I want, trains waiting for a clear route, without loosing sound and lights. Thank you once again for this excellent explanation. I have one thing however, am I correct in the understanding that each breaking area needs its own module? If so, I unstand why in an earlier video you says it is an expensive solution. Thanks again Bo, I eagerly waiting on your next realise………. TonyH .
Hi Tony, yes - one braking module per signal. This becomes complex and expensive. If you have a larger layout consider automating it using software - or CS3. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello Bo, thank you so much for being so very helpful with CV47, fixed! Yipeee! You are a very patient man, I am so grateful! Watching your earlier videos I see how easily you connect the track wires to the C Track. I seem to find I have to widen the wire connector to the B and O Male lugs. Is the normal? Or is there an easier way to join the small connectors please? I tend to have to lift the track connect to push it on. Best regards Tony
Hi Tony, I am glad you got your CV47 issue fixed! Related to your difficulty with the connector to the B/0 connections? I usually find that it is too loose and need to squeeze the connector. Try to flip the connector so the flat part is towards the track. It slides on differently. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello Bo, as one of my favourite you tube sites, I am missing your input. I hope you are going to continue, and are well and in good spirits. If you think you’ve covered everything, please don’t. I am sure you have been working on different projects or trying more things. How to see some more videos soon, from a very grateful viewer, best regards………..TonyH
Hi Tony, Thanks for your encouraging words. Unfortunately, there has been little time for the model train hobby this year. Hope to improve next year. Enjoy and have fun ;-) Bo
Hi, If you are talking about running PIKO locomotives made for 3-rail (with a slider), then you can also run these on your Märklin track. You can see what to think about when running Non-Märklin on Märklin 3-rail in this video: ruclips.net/video/nkePdjQNzws/видео.html If you are talking about 2-rail model trains, then I unfortunately do not have any 2-rail locomotives or track. However, there are many other videos on this topic available on RUclips. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Another great video and explanation, thank you Bo! I have a couple of questions: 1. Can I use m84 decoder instead of m83? Does the Brake Module 72442 allow me to connect multiple traffic lights?
Hi Pedro, Glad you like the video! As I understand it you cannot use the m84 for this - at least not according to any manual from Märklin that I have seen. Can it be done - not sure? Multiple traffic lights (signals?) - if they need to show the same yes - otherwise one brake module per signal. This quickly becomes very expensive. If you have automation, consider using CS3 events or software instead - then you do not need the brake module. Check out the Automation playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
After my grandpa died I stopped with my model train.. Now I have picked it up again. I am still using the F80 controller and the interface. I have been experimenting with Itrain (used to use koploper). Itrain also controls the braking of trains.. What is the advantage using brake modules instead of computer application?
Hi Hinerakatauri, welcome back to the hobby! If you want to control the entire layout by computer the best way is to have the software control all train motions. Hence, using itrain you do not need the braking module. The braking module is advantageous if you are using manual control (forget to brake at signal) - or want a simple way to automate your layout without a computer. Enjoy ;-)
Hello Bo, I d like to slow down automatically all my loks entering the station area.Imagine there are two tracks, can I do what you did with my 2 tracks on same M83 output ( adress), inserting the M83 trigger in my différent évents ( one différent évent route to each track)? Using CS3
Hi Bernard, You cannot use the brake module to change speed of the locomotive. However, if you have the CS3 with L88/S88 then you do have more control over the trains and do not need the brake module. As an example, check out this video: ruclips.net/video/MtZ1MYwOLDY/видео.html. You can find all videos on automation here: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV. However, this is a much more complex way of controlling your layout and it requires quite some trial and error. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi, you can find Minitrix locomotives at your local model train shop or here: www.maerklinshop.de/en/trix/minitrix/locomotives/?p=1. As I understand it all modern Minitrix locomotives come with a decoder and supports DCC. You may still find older (used) Minitrix locomotives that are analogue? Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Michael, yes - unfortunately. Using brake modules is expensive and complex. Consider using events in your CS3 or software to control your trains instead. Easier, simpler and less costly. Check out the Automation series for how to do it with CS3 events: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thank you ! Would you mind doing an episode on how to install street lights and especially how to connect multiple street lights to one light transformer
Hi Linus, I do not know of any way to use automation software like rocrail without the sensors. You can use other control stations instead of the Märklin Central Station. However, they tend to be in the same price range. Check out the rocrail manuals for which control stations can be used. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Yes, but you still need a digital signal which is more expensive than a dumb signal which you can connect directly to the 72442/1 and manage through a m83.
Hi Anders, I have not tried the ABC brake technology. However, the Märklin brake module and the ABC brake tech are not compatible. For both of them the decoder must be compatible with the chosen "brake method". I do not know if Märklin decoders support ABC? As I understand it ABC is normally used with DCC. However, I also understand that not all DCC decoders support ABC braking. Note: There are also other Märklin compatible brake modules available e.g. bogobit. Let me know if you have any experience with this. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun As far as I know, Märklin locs do not support ABC, which is too bad. ABC makes the DCC signal asymmetrical (positive pulse being higher in amplitude than the negative one); the Märklin braking module changes the rail signal into negative DC. Both are interpreted by the loc as a brake command, but ABC has two important advantages: 1) with ABC, the loc can still respond to other commands, and 2) it doesn't require the isolation/transition section. Märklin braking requires it, to prevent shorting out the signal generator by driving a train across the section. BTW: The signal generators for both ABC and negative DC braking are super easy to build yourself, schematics can be found with Google. Components: a small 24V AC driven relay, a few diodes, a capacitor, that's pretty much it. For the price of 1 Märklin module you can probably build 8 of them, and they function just as well as the factory one. I've no idea why they made it so expensive.
@@ModelTrainFun Looks like my previous comment got eaten :) As far as I know, Märklin is not compatible with ABC. ABC works by making the DCC signal asymmetrical: the positive pulses will be higher in amplitude than the negative ones. Märklin works by turning the track signal to negative DC, which is interpreted as a command to stop. The advantage of ABC is that DCC signals will still get through so you can run functions on the train, possibly (depending on the decoder) even get the train started again. Also, ABC does not require the isolation / transition section. The purpose of that section is to prevent shorting out the signal generator of the braking module when you run a train across the section. BTW you can build your own braking module with maybe €10 worth of parts. You need a DPDT 24VAC relay, a few diodes, resistors and a capacitor, that's all. ABC braking modules are even simpler in nature. I'm not sure why Märklin decided to charge this much for the module. Schematics can be found easily and anyone with a little skill at soldering can make one of these.
Excellent done! Great video and learned (again) nice things. I'll come back like you aks at the endin the video. In the meanwhile we're 4 months further and I don't see new video's. Hopelfully you come back soon with more. Thanks in any case for the many great video's! See ya 🙂
Hi, glad you like the videos, and you find them useful. Yes - unfortunately work has been busy, and I need to get back to filming again. I hope to soon put more videos on the channel. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks ! Understandable, work is priority. No stress 🙂 . Looking forward (but a your tempo) to your interesting video's of this wonderfull hobby ! Thanks in advance Bo !
Excellent, really excellent presentation, explanation and demonstration. You certainly do training in your professional life. Clear, easy to understand. A pleasure to learn through your support! Thank you
Hi Michel, Thanks for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it and I hope you find other interesting videos on the channel. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Another great tutorial on using braking modules. I agree with You, it needs a lot of wiring.
Hi Per, many wires and it becomes expensive quite fast even for a small layout. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Another good video abort the 72442/1 breake module, but I always use a Dumb signals and a m83 with the breake module, it reduce the Price with over 66% pr. signal zone. Best Regards Olav
Hi Olav, I agree that the price of braking module with signals can be quite expensive especially if you have many signals where you would like to use the braking module on your layout. In this case dumb signals with M83 is indeed cheaper. Enjoy ;-) Bo
thanks for all the great videos you make as a newbie this is incredibly helpful, looking forward to all the new ones. Timo from Sweden 🙂
Hi Timo - all the way from Sweden! Welcome to the channel and I hope you have fun with your trains. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun I build in a small room of 9 square meters on 3 of the walls, to get more track surface I build in 3 height levels with 2 helix to be able to reach all 3 levels, level 1 and 2 have helix for 2 tracks for meeting to the level 3 have helix 1 track, there will be mostly locomotive garages up there so there will be most locomotives going up there.
Level 2 is the main surface with several heights on the track, level 1 is an industrial area with several side tracks for setting up wagons.
Hello Bo. Very usefull informations in this video. As always very good video that helps designing an constructing my layout
Hi Frank, I am happy the video helps you and I hope you get a great layout. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello Bo, I have watched this video five times! Extremely interesting and allows just what I want, trains waiting for a clear route, without loosing sound and lights. Thank you once again for this excellent explanation. I have one thing however, am I correct in the understanding that each breaking area needs its own module? If so, I unstand why in an earlier video you says it is an expensive solution.
Thanks again Bo, I eagerly waiting on your next realise………. TonyH
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Hi Tony, yes - one braking module per signal. This becomes complex and expensive. If you have a larger layout consider automating it using software - or CS3. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Please come back soon.☺
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Hi georges, thanks - I am glad you liked the video! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello Bo, thank you so much for being so very helpful with CV47, fixed! Yipeee! You are a very patient man, I am so grateful! Watching your earlier videos I see how easily you connect the track wires to the C Track. I seem to find I have to widen the wire connector to the B and O Male lugs. Is the normal? Or is there an easier way to join the small connectors please? I tend to have to lift the track connect to push it on. Best regards Tony
Hi Tony, I am glad you got your CV47 issue fixed! Related to your difficulty with the connector to the B/0 connections? I usually find that it is too loose and need to squeeze the connector. Try to flip the connector so the flat part is towards the track. It slides on differently. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello Bo, as one of my favourite you tube sites, I am missing your input. I hope you are going to continue, and are well and in good spirits. If you think you’ve covered everything, please don’t. I am sure you have been working on different projects or trying more things. How to see some more videos soon, from a very grateful viewer, best regards………..TonyH
Hi Tony, Thanks for your encouraging words. Unfortunately, there has been little time for the model train hobby this year. Hope to improve next year. Enjoy and have fun ;-) Bo
Hi Bo. again a nice video. But if you are colour blind, the train will never stop 😘😘
Hi Eric, 🤣 🤣 🤣 Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello thanks for making the märklin
Vids. Can you make Vids about Piko in H0 Not AC in DCC Would help , thanks it will help 😊😊
Hi, If you are talking about running PIKO locomotives made for 3-rail (with a slider), then you can also run these on your Märklin track. You can see what to think about when running Non-Märklin on Märklin 3-rail in this video: ruclips.net/video/nkePdjQNzws/видео.html If you are talking about 2-rail model trains, then I unfortunately do not have any 2-rail locomotives or track. However, there are many other videos on this topic available on RUclips. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Another great video and explanation, thank you Bo! I have a couple of questions: 1. Can I use m84 decoder instead of m83? Does the Brake Module 72442 allow me to connect multiple traffic lights?
Hi Pedro,
Glad you like the video!
As I understand it you cannot use the m84 for this - at least not according to any manual from Märklin that I have seen. Can it be done - not sure?
Multiple traffic lights (signals?) - if they need to show the same yes - otherwise one brake module per signal. This quickly becomes very expensive. If you have automation, consider using CS3 events or software instead - then you do not need the brake module. Check out the Automation playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
After my grandpa died I stopped with my model train.. Now I have picked it up again. I am still using the F80 controller and the interface. I have been experimenting with Itrain (used to use koploper). Itrain also controls the braking of trains.. What is the advantage using brake modules instead of computer application?
Hi Hinerakatauri, welcome back to the hobby! If you want to control the entire layout by computer the best way is to have the software control all train motions. Hence, using itrain you do not need the braking module. The braking module is advantageous if you are using manual control (forget to brake at signal) - or want a simple way to automate your layout without a computer. Enjoy ;-)
Hello Bo, I d like to slow down automatically all my loks entering the station area.Imagine there are two tracks, can I do what you did with my 2 tracks on same M83 output ( adress), inserting the M83 trigger in my différent évents ( one différent évent route to each track)? Using CS3
Hi Bernard,
You cannot use the brake module to change speed of the locomotive. However, if you have the CS3 with L88/S88 then you do have more control over the trains and do not need the brake module. As an example, check out this video: ruclips.net/video/MtZ1MYwOLDY/видео.html. You can find all videos on automation here: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV. However, this is a much more complex way of controlling your layout and it requires quite some trial and error.
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
hi i am from the netherlands and am looking for MINITRIX dcc loc do you have any suggestions
Hi, you can find Minitrix locomotives at your local model train shop or here: www.maerklinshop.de/en/trix/minitrix/locomotives/?p=1. As I understand it all modern Minitrix locomotives come with a decoder and supports DCC. You may still find older (used) Minitrix locomotives that are analogue? Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
this might be a stupid question but lets say I have 15 stop signals do I then need 15 brake modulets and 15 transformers ?
Hi Michael, yes - unfortunately. Using brake modules is expensive and complex. Consider using events in your CS3 or software to control your trains instead. Easier, simpler and less costly. Check out the Automation series for how to do it with CS3 events: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thank you ! Would you mind doing an episode on how to install street lights and especially how to connect multiple street lights to one light transformer
Do you know if there is anyway to use rocrail on a märklin layout without a central station and using sensors to know where the trains are?
Hi Linus, I do not know of any way to use automation software like rocrail without the sensors. You can use other control stations instead of the Märklin Central Station. However, they tend to be in the same price range. Check out the rocrail manuals for which control stations can be used. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Have you tested by use ABC brake with other brands by use Märklin tracks? ABC brake are cheaper than Märklins brake modul.
Yes, but you still need a digital signal which is more expensive than a dumb signal which you can connect directly to the 72442/1 and manage through a m83.
Hi Anders,
I have not tried the ABC brake technology. However, the Märklin brake module and the ABC brake tech are not compatible. For both of them the decoder must be compatible with the chosen "brake method". I do not know if Märklin decoders support ABC? As I understand it ABC is normally used with DCC. However, I also understand that not all DCC decoders support ABC braking.
Note: There are also other Märklin compatible brake modules available e.g. bogobit.
Let me know if you have any experience with this. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun As far as I know, Märklin locs do not support ABC, which is too bad. ABC makes the DCC signal asymmetrical (positive pulse being higher in amplitude than the negative one); the Märklin braking module changes the rail signal into negative DC. Both are interpreted by the loc as a brake command, but ABC has two important advantages: 1) with ABC, the loc can still respond to other commands, and 2) it doesn't require the isolation/transition section. Märklin braking requires it, to prevent shorting out the signal generator by driving a train across the section.
BTW: The signal generators for both ABC and negative DC braking are super easy to build yourself, schematics can be found with Google. Components: a small 24V AC driven relay, a few diodes, a capacitor, that's pretty much it. For the price of 1 Märklin module you can probably build 8 of them, and they function just as well as the factory one. I've no idea why they made it so expensive.
@@ModelTrainFun Looks like my previous comment got eaten :)
As far as I know, Märklin is not compatible with ABC. ABC works by making the DCC signal asymmetrical: the positive pulses will be higher in amplitude than the negative ones. Märklin works by turning the track signal to negative DC, which is interpreted as a command to stop. The advantage of ABC is that DCC signals will still get through so you can run functions on the train, possibly (depending on the decoder) even get the train started again. Also, ABC does not require the isolation / transition section. The purpose of that section is to prevent shorting out the signal generator of the braking module when you run a train across the section.
BTW you can build your own braking module with maybe €10 worth of parts. You need a DPDT 24VAC relay, a few diodes, resistors and a capacitor, that's all. ABC braking modules are even simpler in nature. I'm not sure why Märklin decided to charge this much for the module. Schematics can be found easily and anyone with a little skill at soldering can make one of these.
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Hi Helge , glad you liked the video! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hello. You sound Danish 😊
Hejsa - yup - afsløret! Hygge ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Håber at du har det godt hvor end i verden du er. 🤗 Du laver gode informative videoer. 👍🏻😉
@@legomandk9964 Herligt - takker ;-)
i have a budget of 160
Yup - they are expensive :-( Enjoy ;-) Bo