CONGRATULATIONS AGAING. Sincerely you deserve the Marklin´s gratitude AND COMPENSATION/PAYMENT for your excellent and professional videos you have prepared and shared with us. Thanks a lot and continue educating and teaching all the model rail roader, because MARKLIN DOES NOT PRODUCE NOTHING GOOD IN ENGLISH, SPANISH OR FRENCH, NOR IN BOOKS NEITHER IN VIDEOS.
Glad you like the video. Indeed - can be difficult to find information on Märklin in English. This was one of my main reasons for starting this channel - Hope it helps. Topic’s, hints, tips’n’tricks and questions always welcome. Enjoy 😜
Enjoy watching Marklins series about this, but enjoyed your video even more. Been looking online at the few retailers here in the US that sell Marklin trains to see what kind of sets they have available.
Hi, I am glad you enjoyed the video! As you are from US, please do remember that Märklin do not produce many US locomotives and cars. If you are into local trains, then perhaps Märklin is not the right for you. Märklin is also not compatible with the brands you typically find in US as it uses a 3-rail solution. Also consider choosing a system/brand your friends have so you have somebody to exchange tips'n'trick with. If you decide on Märklin I can highly recommend it. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@ModelTrainFun I actually ordered a starter set and cars under the Trix line since it's just a 2 rail version of Marklin. In theory, I should be able to run Trix on the same layout I run my US freight trains on. I figure later on, I'll buy a Marklin set and run the Trix wagons with it.
Great! Interesting what you said in the end regarding m83. I have not seen or heard anything about that before, so i thought both a m83 and a turnout decoder was necessary. It is quite frustrating trying to get information from Märklin regarding their products(maybe the user manuals are more detailed, but hard to figure it out before buying), even in German is seems, so very good that you and other people explain. :)
Glad it was helpful! Yes - it can be difficult to figure out how the components fit together. I have to do a lot of research and experimentation. Tip: look for the product on the Märklin website and you can find the manual as well. You don't need to buy the product. The manuals help, but can be difficult to figure out how products fit together... Intend to cover the m83 and m84 in future episodes. Enjoy :-)
Hi Seni, the manual for the control box shows you how to connect: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/22/bc/22bc84c98f94f78c5c7db5289e0874311660729862.pdf As far as I can see you are right. Connect the two blue to the control box and the yellow to Red (B) on the track. Enjoy ;-)
So let me please see if I have understood correctly. From what you say at 24:46 you have NOT set any decoder address at all, so all dip switches are off. However, if you wanted to set the decoder address to 1, then dip switch 1 should be on if you wanted to set the decoder address to 3, then dip switches 1 and 2 should be on if you wanted to set the decoder address to 11, then dip switches 1, 2 and 4 should be on if you wanted to set the decoder address to 16, then dip switch 5 should be on, and so on. Have I understood correctly? Thank you.
Hi John, if you use MFX no need to set any address so you can set all to off. If you want to assign an address, you must look in the address table of the manual. How to set the address varies from decoder to decoder - always look in the manual. As an example, look at 7:51 which shows you the address on 74460. Compare to same address on the 74462 at 17:24 and you see the address is different. So, the address assignment you mention above is only tru for 74462/74461 - not 74460. Enjoy ;-)
Hello, I have just started with Marklin HO. It seems I am the only one in Czech republic, everyone has DC here :) I am thinking about ordering Marklin 24802, but I can not figure out nothing about decoder in there. I would like to have DCC with MFX, but I am afraid what if some motorola is in.. I only have mobile station so far. Would you recommend this set od buy everything separately (very expensive)?? Thanks a lot as well as for your help in Czech republic..
Hi Martina, Welcome to the Märklin world and this channel! According to the manual the decoder in the Märklin 24802 is compatible has same functionality as the Märklin 74462 turnout decoder (see page 7 and 8): static.maerklin.de/damcontent/f5/60/f560437c4f8ee5f85cbd0e322b6cb0121669986548.pdf However, they specify it is MM/DCC compatible - they do not specify MFX? So I am not sure if this is a special version of the turnout decoder. However, as you are using the Mobile Station 2 you have plenty of addresses for accessories - even just using MM. I would not worry and consider this extension set as this is a cheaper option. One thing to remember is the Mobile Station 2 (MS2) can only do either MM or DCC for accessories, but the address range is different from the address range for locomotives. You have 255 addresses for accessories and 255 addresses for locomotives. On the MS2 you have to choose either MM or DCC for accessories. However, the MS2 can control MM/MFX and DCC locomotives at the same time. I would start with MM as you may need to use some older accessories that only support MM. You can go with DCC, but then you need to make sure that you only purchase DCC accessories. If your layout grows in the future and you need more addresses you will also need more power to the track. The Mobile Station 2 (MS2) only provides power for a small layout. If you need more power you will need to upgrade to the Central Station 3 (CS3). However, you can make surprisingly large layouts and have lots of locomotives using the MS2. However, you can quickly run out of power if you have many passenger cars with lights - or light accessories from the tracks. In this case consider separate power supply for lighting accessories. However, unless you buy a lot and make a larger layout the MS2 should be sufficient. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
No sure what you are thinking about... I can think of two situations: 1. making contact tracks or 2. your current draw is too big for your power supply. Is this what you are thinking about? Enjoy the hobby :-)
Signals will be one of the next subjects so a video will hopefully come within the next month or so. My goal is automated train operations, so I will definetely also be covering contact tracks in a future video. Enjoy :-)
Salutations from France. First a great thank you for your videos. They are wonderful ! I have a question. On my layout I use 74460, 461 and 462. How can i be sure to give a right adress to the 74460 that is not occupied ? I hope I'm clear enough ? Secondly I have not the document to set up the adresses because it is second hand materiel. Where can I find it ? Thanks for tour help. Bernard.
Hi Bernard, I am glad you like the videos on this channel - I am glad to help. As for your questions: How to avoid giving an address that is already occupied? If you are using the CS3, then try to add the turnout decoder to the CS3. The address will turn red if it is already occupied in the CS3. However, this does not guarantee that you do not have another turnout not added to the CS3 with the same address. If you do not have an CS3, then best is to keep track of which turnouts you have. You could create a list of these. In general having an overview of your layout and assets is a good idea and can ease troubleshooting. As I make temporary layouts I have a sticker on the decoder underneath the turnout with the address - in this way I can check all my turnouts to see which is occupied. Other times I just power on the layout and try a random address to see if there is a turnout that reacts. In most cases some good old writing down a list of addresses is often the best. Finding manuals? Go to the Märklin website and search for the product. Try www.maerklin.de/en/service/product-database Then enter 74460 in the "Item No." field and hit "Search". You can find the manual under "Downloads" to the right of the picture. The manual for 74460 is here: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a0/90/a0905a4b7b2e0a4749890a97d45fa1031434542558.pdf This works for all modern Märklin products (since 2000/2001). Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-)
Yes, the yellow cable in the 24672 can take current from the B track, but it's separate from the red one so you have the option to power it with a separate transformer. It is indeed used to power the lantern.
Excellent - thanks @informatimago. Looking at the manual for 74462 the wording seems to indicate that the yellow can power the mechanism as well. However, I am not sure... Need to experiment... Enjoy :-)
@@HaroldKuilman Yes. However, when using digital on the red/brown, I'd avoid using it for power usages too, like lamps, and others. Better use another power supply on the yellow.
@@informatimago I guess it depends on the size of the layout and the amount of things connected that use power, or does it always effect signal integrity for example?
I have struggled a lot with 74462 Decoder with a Roco Multimaus. I have found on the internet by sheer luck that if you program the decoder to Number 1 it corresponds to Number 5 on multimas. N2 on Marklin is N6 on the multimaus. N3>N7, N4>N8, etc. Basically you need to add 4 every time. Just FYI for anybody that is also wondering.
Interesting behavior - thanks for the tip. Do you know if this is only for the 74462 or this is a general behavior of the Roco Multimaus with Märklin accesory decoders? Enjoy ;-)
Yes - these can also be used in the Trix C-track turnouts e.g. 62611 and 62612. It is difficult to see. If you look at trix.de for the turnouts it only mentions the turnout mechanism and lights. However, if you look for the 74462 on trix.de you can see it can be used for Trix C track turnouts (also mentioned in the manual for the 74462). Do remember the 3-way turnout needs a special decoder. Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
Great representation again, thanx for this! One question: when do I have to set switch 10 to DCC and when do I have to set it to fx (MM)? Probably I will use a Mobile Station to control, so how will I have to set switch 10 for the Mobile Station to be able to control my turnouts? Thanx very much in advance! :)
The choice of DCC vs MM depends on how big your layout is and what accessories you have. Older accessory decoders support 256 MM addresses and newer accessory decoders support 320 MM addresses. If you have a small layout where you need less than 256/320 addresses (turnouts, signals, m83, m84, ...) then you can use MM. If you need more consider using DCC - however, only the most recent decoders support DCC. Most recent decoders support 511 DCC addresses using the dip switch and 2044 DCC addresses using CVs. The Mobile Station 2 (MS2) can only support either MM or DCC for accessories. You can change this in the MS2 using SHIFT+Turnout->Accessory Protocol. With the Central Station 3 (CS3) you can mix MM and DCC addressing for accessories. I recommend starting with MM as this gives you the most compatibility. However, if you already know you will be building something very large, then buy decoders that support DCC and use these. So far I have not had the use for DCC. If you are using non-Märklin accessories, then DCC can be useful as well. Hope this helps - enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun I will have a small layout only with Marklin stuff. All my switch 10's will be off, that is to say my Marklin decoders will be using Marklin addresses. All Marklin decoders together with the Mobile Station 2 know the mfx digit format, so nothing can go wrong. Perhaps older versions of decoders would be enough, but I like using the latest vesions of everything, for U can never know... Than U very much! :)
Try to search for "marklin 74470" or "marklin 74471" here on RUclips. I see there are some others that have made videos. Unfortunately, I only found some in German...
What is that thing called, where you can change the switch without the switch decoder? Or maybe an article number for searching it on the Märklin store.
(Turnout) Control Box: are you thinking about Märklin 72720 (fits with 74491) or Märklin 72752 (fits with 74492). Tip: look for the turnout mechanism and read description or look at manual. It will show what each item fits with. Enjoy :-)
Next video in the series will show how to connect to the Mobile Station 2 (coming in the next few days). In order to control with mobile phone you need a Central Station 3 (or Central Station 2). With the Central Station 3 you can use any device with a browser. Central Station 2 requires a dedicated app.
I also would like to ask the possibility of switching the turnouts without decoder and motors. I have a reverse loop with a turnout (eg 671) without electirc setup. Is it possible to arrange a smooth passage in the return maybe with a magnetic head placed in the rolling stocks? Thank you in advance.
The Mobile 2 can not be used on it's own with a mobile phone you have to connect it to a CS3/3+ but you still can't actually use the MS 2 even if it is connected to the CS3's because it's not designed for it
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CONGRATULATIONS AGAING. Sincerely you deserve the Marklin´s gratitude AND COMPENSATION/PAYMENT for your excellent and professional videos you have prepared and shared with us. Thanks a lot and continue educating and teaching all the model rail roader, because MARKLIN DOES NOT PRODUCE NOTHING GOOD IN ENGLISH, SPANISH OR FRENCH, NOR IN BOOKS NEITHER IN VIDEOS.
Glad you like the video. Indeed - can be difficult to find information on Märklin in English. This was one of my main reasons for starting this channel - Hope it helps. Topic’s, hints, tips’n’tricks and questions always welcome. Enjoy 😜
Enjoy watching Marklins series about this, but enjoyed your video even more. Been looking online at the few retailers here in the US that sell Marklin trains to see what kind of sets they have available.
Hi, I am glad you enjoyed the video! As you are from US, please do remember that Märklin do not produce many US locomotives and cars. If you are into local trains, then perhaps Märklin is not the right for you. Märklin is also not compatible with the brands you typically find in US as it uses a 3-rail solution. Also consider choosing a system/brand your friends have so you have somebody to exchange tips'n'trick with. If you decide on Märklin I can highly recommend it. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@ModelTrainFun I actually ordered a starter set and cars under the Trix line since it's just a 2 rail version of Marklin. In theory, I should be able to run Trix on the same layout I run my US freight trains on. I figure later on, I'll buy a Marklin set and run the Trix wagons with it.
@@SOU6900 Sounds great - have fun with the starter set! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Great! Interesting what you said in the end regarding m83. I have not seen or heard anything about that before, so i thought both a m83 and a turnout decoder was necessary. It is quite frustrating trying to get information from Märklin regarding their products(maybe the user manuals are more detailed, but hard to figure it out before buying), even in German is seems, so very good that you and other people explain. :)
Glad it was helpful! Yes - it can be difficult to figure out how the components fit together. I have to do a lot of research and experimentation. Tip: look for the product on the Märklin website and you can find the manual as well. You don't need to buy the product. The manuals help, but can be difficult to figure out how products fit together... Intend to cover the m83 and m84 in future episodes. Enjoy :-)
Super vejledning! Tak for hjælpen.
Hi, herligt - glad you liked it! Hygge ;-) Bo
If i wouldnt be useing a decoder cant i just put the yellow wire on the track aswel? And the 2 blue ones on a turnout controll box?
Hi Seni, the manual for the control box shows you how to connect: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/22/bc/22bc84c98f94f78c5c7db5289e0874311660729862.pdf As far as I can see you are right. Connect the two blue to the control box and the yellow to Red (B) on the track. Enjoy ;-)
Another great video and information, thank you for the great job done.
Hi Pedro, glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-)
So let me please see if I have understood correctly. From what you say at 24:46 you have NOT set any decoder address at all, so all dip switches are off. However,
if you wanted to set the decoder address to 1, then dip switch 1 should be on
if you wanted to set the decoder address to 3, then dip switches 1 and 2 should be on
if you wanted to set the decoder address to 11, then dip switches 1, 2 and 4 should be on
if you wanted to set the decoder address to 16, then dip switch 5 should be on, and so on.
Have I understood correctly? Thank you.
Hi John, if you use MFX no need to set any address so you can set all to off. If you want to assign an address, you must look in the address table of the manual. How to set the address varies from decoder to decoder - always look in the manual. As an example, look at 7:51 which shows you the address on 74460. Compare to same address on the 74462 at 17:24 and you see the address is different. So, the address assignment you mention above is only tru for 74462/74461 - not 74460. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Yes you are VERY right! I forgot to mention that I was referring to addresses for the 74462.
Hello, I have just started with Marklin HO. It seems I am the only one in Czech republic, everyone has DC here :) I am thinking about ordering Marklin 24802, but I can not figure out nothing about decoder in there. I would like to have DCC with MFX, but I am afraid what if some motorola is in.. I only have mobile station so far. Would you recommend this set od buy everything separately (very expensive)?? Thanks a lot as well as for your help in Czech republic..
Hi Martina,
Welcome to the Märklin world and this channel! According to the manual the decoder in the Märklin 24802 is compatible has same functionality as the Märklin 74462 turnout decoder (see page 7 and 8): static.maerklin.de/damcontent/f5/60/f560437c4f8ee5f85cbd0e322b6cb0121669986548.pdf
However, they specify it is MM/DCC compatible - they do not specify MFX? So I am not sure if this is a special version of the turnout decoder. However, as you are using the Mobile Station 2 you have plenty of addresses for accessories - even just using MM. I would not worry and consider this extension set as this is a cheaper option.
One thing to remember is the Mobile Station 2 (MS2) can only do either MM or DCC for accessories, but the address range is different from the address range for locomotives. You have 255 addresses for accessories and 255 addresses for locomotives. On the MS2 you have to choose either MM or DCC for accessories. However, the MS2 can control MM/MFX and DCC locomotives at the same time. I would start with MM as you may need to use some older accessories that only support MM. You can go with DCC, but then you need to make sure that you only purchase DCC accessories.
If your layout grows in the future and you need more addresses you will also need more power to the track. The Mobile Station 2 (MS2) only provides power for a small layout. If you need more power you will need to upgrade to the Central Station 3 (CS3). However, you can make surprisingly large layouts and have lots of locomotives using the MS2. However, you can quickly run out of power if you have many passenger cars with lights - or light accessories from the tracks. In this case consider separate power supply for lighting accessories. However, unless you buy a lot and make a larger layout the MS2 should be sufficient.
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Good job! Thanks. I'd like to learn more about isolation procedures for digital layouts. I hope you'll touch upon this sometime. All the best.
No sure what you are thinking about... I can think of two situations: 1. making contact tracks or 2. your current draw is too big for your power supply. Is this what you are thinking about? Enjoy the hobby :-)
@@ModelTrainFun Yes Sir I meant contact tracks, and turnouts including signal arrangements,
Signals will be one of the next subjects so a video will hopefully come within the next month or so. My goal is automated train operations, so I will definetely also be covering contact tracks in a future video. Enjoy :-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thank you! :)
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Salutations from France. First a great thank you for your videos. They are wonderful ! I have a question. On my layout I use 74460, 461 and 462. How can i be sure to give a right adress to the 74460 that is not occupied ? I hope I'm clear enough ? Secondly I have not the document to set up the adresses because it is second hand materiel. Where can I find it ? Thanks for tour help. Bernard.
Hi Bernard,
I am glad you like the videos on this channel - I am glad to help.
As for your questions:
How to avoid giving an address that is already occupied? If you are using the CS3, then try to add the turnout decoder to the CS3. The address will turn red if it is already occupied in the CS3. However, this does not guarantee that you do not have another turnout not added to the CS3 with the same address.
If you do not have an CS3, then best is to keep track of which turnouts you have. You could create a list of these. In general having an overview of your layout and assets is a good idea and can ease troubleshooting. As I make temporary layouts I have a sticker on the decoder underneath the turnout with the address - in this way I can check all my turnouts to see which is occupied. Other times I just power on the layout and try a random address to see if there is a turnout that reacts.
In most cases some good old writing down a list of addresses is often the best.
Finding manuals? Go to the Märklin website and search for the product. Try www.maerklin.de/en/service/product-database Then enter 74460 in the "Item No." field and hit "Search". You can find the manual under "Downloads" to the right of the picture. The manual for 74460 is here: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a0/90/a0905a4b7b2e0a4749890a97d45fa1031434542558.pdf
This works for all modern Märklin products (since 2000/2001).
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Merci mon ami !
Excelente explicación. Gracias por tu trabajo.
Thanks Heriberto! Enjoy ;-)
Yes, the yellow cable in the 24672 can take current from the B track, but it's separate from the red one so you have the option to power it with a separate transformer. It is indeed used to power the lantern.
Excellent - thanks @informatimago. Looking at the manual for 74462 the wording seems to indicate that the yellow can power the mechanism as well. However, I am not sure... Need to experiment... Enjoy :-)
So if you use it all on one power supply you might as wel cut the yellow wire?
@@HaroldKuilman Yes. However, when using digital on the red/brown, I'd avoid using it for power usages too, like lamps, and others. Better use another power supply on the yellow.
@@informatimago I guess it depends on the size of the layout and the amount of things connected that use power, or does it always effect signal integrity for example?
I have struggled a lot with 74462 Decoder with a Roco Multimaus. I have found on the internet by sheer luck that if you program the decoder to Number 1 it corresponds to Number 5 on multimas. N2 on Marklin is N6 on the multimaus. N3>N7, N4>N8, etc. Basically you need to add 4 every time. Just FYI for anybody that is also wondering.
Interesting behavior - thanks for the tip. Do you know if this is only for the 74462 or this is a general behavior of the Roco Multimaus with Märklin accesory decoders? Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun i think it is general
This combination is good for Trix C track?
Yes - these can also be used in the Trix C-track turnouts e.g. 62611 and 62612. It is difficult to see. If you look at trix.de for the turnouts it only mentions the turnout mechanism and lights. However, if you look for the 74462 on trix.de you can see it can be used for Trix C track turnouts (also mentioned in the manual for the 74462). Do remember the 3-way turnout needs a special decoder. Hope this helps. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Thanks for the answer! It was fast :)
Great representation again, thanx for this! One question: when do I have to set switch 10 to DCC and when do I have to set it to fx (MM)? Probably I will use a Mobile Station to control, so how will I have to set switch 10 for the Mobile Station to be able to control my turnouts? Thanx very much in advance! :)
The choice of DCC vs MM depends on how big your layout is and what accessories you have.
Older accessory decoders support 256 MM addresses and newer accessory decoders support 320 MM addresses. If you have a small layout where you need less than 256/320 addresses (turnouts, signals, m83, m84, ...) then you can use MM. If you need more consider using DCC - however, only the most recent decoders support DCC. Most recent decoders support 511 DCC addresses using the dip switch and 2044 DCC addresses using CVs.
The Mobile Station 2 (MS2) can only support either MM or DCC for accessories. You can change this in the MS2 using SHIFT+Turnout->Accessory Protocol. With the Central Station 3 (CS3) you can mix MM and DCC addressing for accessories.
I recommend starting with MM as this gives you the most compatibility. However, if you already know you will be building something very large, then buy decoders that support DCC and use these. So far I have not had the use for DCC. If you are using non-Märklin accessories, then DCC can be useful as well.
Hope this helps - enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun I will have a small layout only with Marklin stuff. All my switch 10's will be off, that is to say my Marklin decoders will be using Marklin addresses. All Marklin decoders together with the Mobile Station 2 know the mfx digit format, so nothing can go wrong. Perhaps older versions of decoders would be enough, but I like using the latest vesions of everything, for U can never know... Than U very much! :)
Please, show connecting the light, thx!
Unfortunately, I do not have any turnout lights (or soldering iron). Will make a video when I have some. Enjoy :-)
Try to search for "marklin 74470" or "marklin 74471" here on RUclips. I see there are some others that have made videos. Unfortunately, I only found some in German...
@@ModelTrainFun It is not so easy, the opposite actually, but this is on 26420 there is no room/space for cables left????
What is that thing called, where you can change the switch without the switch decoder? Or maybe an article number for searching it on the Märklin store.
(Turnout) Control Box: are you thinking about Märklin 72720 (fits with 74491) or Märklin 72752 (fits with 74492). Tip: look for the turnout mechanism and read description or look at manual. It will show what each item fits with. Enjoy :-)
How to conect this to the mobile station and how to controll it with mobile phone??
Next video in the series will show how to connect to the Mobile Station 2 (coming in the next few days). In order to control with mobile phone you need a Central Station 3 (or Central Station 2). With the Central Station 3 you can use any device with a browser. Central Station 2 requires a dedicated app.
Can i conect mobile station to the internet with internet cabel or with wi fi usb antena??
Mobile Station cannot connect to a network (or the internet). Central Station 3 (and 2) can connect to your local network.
I also would like to ask the possibility of switching the turnouts without decoder and motors. I have a reverse loop with a turnout (eg 671) without electirc setup. Is it possible to arrange a smooth passage in the return maybe with a magnetic head placed in the rolling stocks? Thank you in advance.
The Mobile 2 can not be used on it's own with a mobile phone you have to connect it to a CS3/3+ but you still can't actually use the MS 2 even if it is connected to the CS3's because it's not designed for it
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Hi Hans-Arne, glad you liked it - thanks! Enjoy ;-)