7 Unforgettable Lessons I Learned at the "World's Best Music School"
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Life-changing lessons I learned at Juilliard (and other music schools).
7 Things I Wish I Learned / Part 2: • 7 REAL-World Skills I ...
00:00 Music School???
01:07 Critical thing I noticed!
02:44 Since I was shy...
04:57 What about the pressure?
06:30 This can only happen in music school!
07:58 A skill that is always handy!
08:43 On performance...
10:11 The biggest lesson...
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I made Part 2! 7 Things I Wish I Learned in Music School: ruclips.net/video/yDjI8iphbhU/видео.html
This is such a help i appreciate your videos so much.
Be blessed
Nahre Sol
Very good information for new students.
I'm a brand new subscriber watching from London UK.❤
Imagine walking around campus and meeting Evgeny Kissin 😳
Lol
This was incredibly validating to hear. I quit piano after my Master of Music due to low self esteem and a difficult relationship with my teacher. It took me until the last few years to reestablish a relationship with music that brought me joy rather than guilt and self-loathing. Yes to part 2.
I hear ya. Glad you came out the other side 😉🙏
I had the same issue with a teacher and once I transitioned from this toxic teacher, my playing actually improved as well as my self esteem.
@Nancy Hollo Agreed. I am not a performer, but i am making my own music,
rather than studying classical piano pieces. .
Hear hear! Getting the right teacher is so impt! I had a teacher that made me feel like crap before. Shook his hand, moved on and was all the better for it. 😊
Oh, Jennifer 😢 That makes me so sad. I’m really glad you were able to find your way back to your love of music, though ❤
absolutely interested in a part 2 - what you said about standing up for your interests and direction without letting dissenting voices (esp influential voices) affect your self perception is spot on for me as well, having recently graduated from another conservatory performance program and started a graduate degree in another music area. thanks as always for the wonderful insights!
Thank you for your comment…!!!
@@NahreSol thank you for sharing these experiences, and yes I'd love to hear more about it
This was my problem when I was a teenager. My teacher usually picked the pieces without asking me weather I like them or not. Eventually I quit playing. Meanwhile I played what I enjoyed playing. Have guts to ask questions from your teacher and say yes or no or what you think is the most important thing I learned in music school. Simply speak up! And then get to your appointments at least 30min before. I also went to RCM, but didn't finished it.
I did a Bachelor's, Master's, and most of a DMA, so I spent quite a bit of time in music school. I think if I spent more time reflecting, I could list a few more, but there is one really stand-out moment for me. During a lesson in my DMA years, I was sort of bombing everything I was playing and became visibly upset and frustrated at myself for such a poor showing. It was a bummer, because I'd honestly been practicing and putting the effort in. He stopped me and asked me what was wrong. I expressed to him that I felt like I was letting both myself and him down. I said I didn't think I was where I should be as a DMA student. He looked at me and asked me "Oh? And where should you be?". I didn't have an answer for him, since the idea was so abstract. He continued by telling me that he was no better than I was, that he just did things differently than I did. That we were both on equal footing, he just figured out the approach that worked for him. While I wish I could say there was a profound takeaway, it simply reinforced the idea that we all progress in different ways and at different paces. Similar to what you discussed about how some folks can knock out music in half the time you can.
Well, that is similar advice that can be applied to the very end of life. My mother was on hospice and the nurse called me to inform me I should come to her house (I had been going there 4 days a week but it was my weekend for my church gig). That evening I said to my Mom I have a serious subject to broach - I asked if she was ready for the long trip (eg death), and she said she didn't know. I told you don't have to know, you will know when you are ready. I said to her too that I will not talk about this anymore. Several days later she was ready and left this Earth.
So, your experience and my Mom's experience contains the same lesson: we struggle most when we question, worry, or fear not knowing where we should be when we would do best often to enjoy where we are. Or to quote Gertrude Stein "There is no there there".
AS with your teacher and my Mom, we each find our way and enjoy and blossom best when we don't fear those times we seem hopelessly uncertain or apparently lost. Often if we learn to pause, rest and take good care of ourselves we will be attuned to a clearer path.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the comment of where you want to be, being very much abstract. Isn’t this what makes the arts career path so difficult? When you’re young, you set out on this journey of being a pianist, and you practice and take lessons again and again to no end, but the longer you're on the journey the more you realize you don't know exactly where the end point is. I think it's no coincidence that a lot of artists, even many famous ones, struggled with depression, loneliness and addiction. Yet, having a focal point is essential. I would say, that having a mentor in whom you can confide should be tremendously helpful if not essential as well. "Being an artist is not easy" is an understatement of grand proportions. It can be terribly difficult.
I didn’t go to Juilliard but I went to Berklee. I entered with piano but ended up studying film scoring/electronic production (and had a major focus on scoring music for games). I was really fortunate to have supportive professors on occasion and appreciated that a lot of the professors just provide the tools and encourage students to discover on their own. This video is really important because in the end of the day I feel musicians, composers, etc make their own careers based on their tastes and interests. Also, comparing skill sets are definitely not a bad idea to hone in strengths and recognize weaknesses 😊
Thank you so much for this video!
Depending on what person is looking for Julliard is not necessarily the best. I think Berklee has the most to offer.
Nahre, you briefly touched on not wishing to pursue a career as a performing pianist because of the typical expectations & lifestyle you were able to see into. Would you consider making a video about this in detail? Many of us are extremely curious about the topic of being / becoming a concert pianist :)
Would like to hear this as well!
@@courtneythompson6179 i have been trying to picture such a journey for myself, though the travel schedule alone could be too hectic for a classical performer, not to mention facing all the additional hurdles of our times. I imagine it could be quite brutal, tho perhaps still worth it ;P
@@Li-yt7zh if you haven’t you should check out the beginning of Grand Piano. It’s a thriller movie that’s free on RUclips. You get a glimpse into a pianists life. In general it’s a pretty interesting premise
@@courtneythompson6179 Thanks! Looked it up and i remember watching it when it came out :) A decent thriller for sure 😃 Two others i saw were Green Book and something with Patrick Stewart in the leading pianist role but I don't remember the name.
I have a friend who is an opera singer. She spent her career singing in the chorus of the opera in her city (as well as teaching.) Towards the end of her career she commented on how much she enjoyed her home, her garden and hosting parties and dinners. She then said that opera singers at a certain level have to tour a lot. It isn’t glamorous and if you aren’t one of the elite performers there aren’t many perks. I hadn’t thought of that. I certainly know lots of rock musicians who tire if touring but I forgot that it is also true in the classical fields. Something to ponder…
I would be glad to see part 2 and even more! =D
Thank you!!
@@NahreSol Nahre, you slippery Musical Space Pirate! I would love to see more but also hope you can respond to my message about how you compose when you can. It would mean a lot and I tell all my music friends about you. Hope to hesr from you.
Who went to music school? If you did - was it worth it? If you didn't - any regrets?
P.S. Also about my *current* title calling Juilliard the "best music school." I will be the first to admit...that this is SO not the case (it really depends on how well you gel with the school) BUT it makes for an effective title for RUclips .
I do regret having zero musical education growing up.
I did it and it helped me realize, that I could not start a career as a violin-player. Your point "comparisons to others" opened my eyes. From "star of the school orchestra" to "mediocre student" can mean a hard step.
I did, and the most I've learned and grown I think was in high school oddly enough. Uni in my experience was more about meeting and connecting with people who share the same interests and goals as you do. The people I was surrounded with really elevated the experience and I've made friends for life.
im in music highschool and the realizations you were stating, e.g. being confident with my study choices and knowing what i do and don’t want to do are starting to stand out for me. really helpful video!!
I didn't, and I don't/seldomly regret it. At one point in my life my piano teacher convinced me to prep and audition for the conservatory, but it didn't work out. Looking back, I think the perfectionistic and competitive atmosphere at a conservatory would have made me quite unhappy. Sometimes I try to imagine what my life would have been like as a professional musician, and I definitely still have a longing for it. But I'm happy the way things are now, having the financial security of a 'normal' job, and playing the piano as a hobby/passion for life.
I think it would be super interesting to see you and Tiffany Poon discuss about this subject. She did all the pre-college things from 8 or 9, but when it came time to do college she turned down Juilliard and studied philosophy despite wanting to be a concert pianist. I think your different experiences would be fascinating!
She went on to Yale for MMus, so...
I would so love to see this happen!! I follow both Tiffany and Nahre and often compare and contrast the two, not as musicians (they are both fantastic), but as the kind of approaches they take in their videos.
She studied Juilliard and Colombia program together, so she still had her studies continue during uni. Then she went on Yale for master’s.
I love how you can apply these concepts not only to music but to a wide variety of college experiences
Not sure how relevant this is to sports. But, I found that your advice applies almost identically to athletes. All the lessons you've discovered were similar to what I have found in myself as an athlete. Just pure coincidence I suppose lol? Thanks a bunch for sharing wisdom!
Wow so interesting! Thank you!!
Musicians, athletes, they’re both performers so it seems logical to me to be similar in preparation. Granted sports are usually more physically demanding, unless you play like pool or darts, but still they’re all intricate skills that take time to develop and be able to perform in front of an audience.
My old piano teacher compared professional musicianship to professional sports all the time. There are many parallels. In order to reach the top you have to be passionate (if not obsessed), willing to make sacrifices socially and often financially (in case of sports also culinary :P), able to perform under high pressure. 'Good enough' doesn't exist in both worlds, you need intrinsic motivation to always be better than yourself yesterday, and your competition today. If you don't aim for the absolute top then all of this applies to a somewhat lesser extent I guess. Oh, and talent helps a great deal of course.
Same! Not a musician Or a athlete lol but I feel like some of her advice is even applicable to like students doing academic studies-> if you translate some of the advice into how it would look like as a student.
@@NahreSol don greene.
Your great…find your own lane…and having Juliard on your resume is a great accomplishment that they can never take away from you.
I studied architecture and the parallels (no pun intended) to what you describe as your experience are incredible! Critiques, peer influences, role models, discovering your own language... I learned early what were my peak hours to study, to craft - sadly those were 8:30pm to 5am, which affects class attendance, relationships with tutors. You learn as much about yourself as you do the material (stage fright affected many presenting their designs). You seem to have hit your stride early since graduating - I always appreciate and enjoy your videos!
As a piano student, this was perfectly adapted, informative and useful. Thank you very much Nahre!
Thank you!!
Love the honesty in this video. Thanks, Nahre!
Thank you, Nahre. Hope you continue this with part two! I really enjoy all your music and videos.
Thank you for your honesty, Nahre. These are all such great tips!
Thank you Nahre! It was very informative and kind of heartwarming. I will wait for the second part🙏❤️
Love your many sharings like this, not only well-thought of, its also real, genuine and being easy to follow. Thanks for making them know! 💕💕
I love how transferable these tips/ skills are. Thank you Nahre!
Great! And thanks 🙏 got making part 2!!
The last point is so very important. Just like every other "industry", the music business requires a certain willingness to compromise your integrity to fit the mold. It's not about being good enough, but simply about sometimes wanting to forge your own path, even if that might be even harder (financially and endurance wise). Thank you Nahre for your personal experience and for leading by example!
I might add one more point which is - build your community! Juilliard, maybe even more than many other music schools, can feel very competitive and isolating. Be bold, reach out, collaborate, make friends, understand that that's not "wasted" time, but actually crucial for a fulfilling life in music - you're not in school to only become a soloist even if that is your dream. Social networks are the bread and butter of having work in the future.
I want to succeed but I need connections and I'm far too socially anxious to make the steps often
I try to but it's really hard
thank u nahre, i'm excited for part two 🥰😍😘
Yes! Love to hear part two! Thank you, Nahre!
Part 2, yes please. That was an excellent glimpse into your experiences at music school.
Part 2 part 2 !! Love your sharing, thanks as always Nahre!!
thanks Nahre for share this video! it's fantastic how your conclusions resonate with my personal experience.
Thanks so much for all the valious advice! It helped me a lot!!
It's a bit rare to see someone talking so openly about the life of a music student in college, and I would love to see a part 2 of this video.
Hugs from Brazil =)
You’re so awesome. You’re so humble and open about your experiences and your brilliance - it’s really inspiring. 🙏
I definitely want to watch a part 2 of this. I'm actually close to my transfering process to a music school and this video was so helpful I think I might rewatch it to take notes. Thank you so much for sharing.
i really appreciate how clearly you could articulate those things and made me reflect back on my own journey. thank you and i would be very much interested in a part two :)
This was incredible. I wish I knew these things when I went to music school. Would love to see part 2. Thank you!
Part 2 please? Thank you for this! So inspiring for sb who is looking to grow their musicianship. Our paths may be different, but in so many ways are similar, so thanks for sharing this
Definitely a part two would be great to watch, so much value from part one, thank you :)
Excellent insights! Yes do part 2
Thanks for this, very illuminating on your journey. Yes, part 2 would be good. Your chat gave a very honest candid flavor of your musical journey, and that itself was worth hearing. Thank you once again.
Please make a part 2 if you're willing and have the time to do so! Hearing your insight as a musician has definitely opened me up to new perspectives and ideas I can possibly take as a music producer trying to improve
You explained ur experience and instances across the years that you spent at juilliard with such an Honesty.
Thanks for sharing ...will be glad to see part 2.
Part two please! Never went to school but you are one of my best teachers. Many thanks.
Yes to Part Deux!! Good for you Nahre for finding your own personal voice...what an inspiration :-)
always wonderful to see you, you are so smart, thoughtful, articulate, you glow. yes to part 2 and more...
Part 2 please!!! you're great and I love your channel, you've inspired me so much.
Excellent Post... thanks Nahre
Part 2 please! I have never went to or considered music school but this was fascinating!
Yes, part 2 please 🙏
Thank you 😊
A very interesting and worthwhile video talk!! Thanks for your insights.
Wonderful. I think thru these topics daily!
LOOOOVED IT...WACTCHING YOUR CHANNEL for the 1ST TIME...YOU'VE JUST WON A NEW SUB HERE....THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPER TIPS !!!!
Highly intelligent presentation of the topic. It’s always enjoyable watching your videos, either playing or discussing different things.
Thanks for your honest and sincere approach to the topic.
I think it will help many new students to find themselves.
Reading behind the lines from all their experiences.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
You went through that, and you are still a humble, sweet person. ☺
I’d love to see a part 2, I really like this video because it’s valuable to me even though I’m working in other areas of music. Valuable lessons in life! I like what you said about comparing yourself to others and about how you were able to get past what one of your teachers thought about your decisions. Also just being in my early 20s this info feels really valuable to me.
Awesome video, Nahre!
Super helpful! Yes! Part 2 please!
Interested in part 2. Thank you. Very interesting
A rare treat to listen to not just the solid, smart content, but also the way it's presented in such a congenial and straightforward way. Grateful to have access to this series!
Great video lesson 👍👍👍 I'd love to see a part 2🙏👍🙏
It's so brave to share your story. I've admired musicians and learned so much from your experiences. I'm happy you found and learned so much during your time at Julliard! Thank you Nahre!
This was awesome. Thank you.
I'm doing an entrance exams to a music school this year and this solidified my decisions.
Nahre, you presented your thoughts and valued experiences almost out of breath speed so please continue with part 2, or more, it takes time to kill your darling dreams, accept and bounce back from this illusion that everyone can or must be a concert pianist, like you said, it's not for everyone to be ready to bear that burden, and that's it, we enjoy your videos as much as when we go to the concerts to enjoy those who chose another path
Great video, Nahre. Bring on part 2!
Yes, a Part 2 would be awesome.
Even tho I'm a late starter, I'm currently in love with music studies (also a classical pianist) and planning my way to a music school. These videos you upload give so much clarity regarding that field and it always help to clear the path for those with similar goals.
I'm extremely thankful for this content and for a exceptional musician like yourself to share your wonderful insights and lessons.
You are an inspiration to me!
Nahre, thank you so much for sharing this! I always thought myself being weird not wanting to be a traditional concert pianist especially after being in the music school for soooo long. I’m glad I’m not the only one! I’m also happy for you to have created your own career path even when your professor was not being supportive! You are amazing!! I really enjoy your videos!!
Thank you, and yes, i would appreciate a second round!
You are both an accomplished musician and a great communicator, not to speak of the dedication you show for making these videos. Excellent work Nahre, thank you for sharing your insights!
Thank you for posting this insightful video.
Thank you for this vulnerable sharing. I'm learning stand up for myself with regards to my choices and approach to my own budding music career.
Love this! Thank you for spreading your music and experiences on youtube! I trained as a classical pianist in my youth at a much less prestigious music college than you but there are many similaritys in what I brought with me from the education. By the time of my masters recital I had gotten pregnant and chose to quit after that to raise a family instead but I still love music and don’t ever regret the hard work of getting a music degree. The ability to handle pressure, to work smart and hard and to use critiqe to evolve is very useful!
Hi Nahre,
Thank you very much for sharing these things! I'm currently a piano student in music high school in Germany in my 3rd Bachelor Semester and I found myself very much in your words. So far I think studying music is worth it and I also think it's a high privilege to be able to do so. Some of the lessons you discussed have been (and still are) big topics during my first year as well - the most significant one for me is the question "What do I want to do?" or as you said "What I don't want". I needed time and space to think about that first before I was even able to practice again.
So thanks again and I'm really looking forward to a part 2! :)
Part 2 please! This video was so helpful it’s great learning about your experiences in college I am in music school now studying piano 🎹 and have learned similar lessons ✨
I would very much like to see a part two to this, thank you! As someone who wanted to go to music school but did not (long story from a long time ago), I find this very interesting and informative.
Thank you!! I appreciate the feedback!!
@@NahreSol hi i just wamted to ask you about what do you suggest for a sound designer, background composer for films and a Trinity grade 5 pianist? Bcoz im not too good in piano but i'v seen you since last 1.5 yrs and i believe you are one of the top tier pianist on youtube. Your modification of simple pieces like Happy Birthday in different Classical periods tells about your skills.
I did work in few feature films in bollywood and i am planning to learn more so i need some advice. If possible share me your mail so that i can send you some of my work. Pls help!😅
Nahre, I'm about to start some intensive schoolwork again. While it's not in music, I have a feeling your lessons will be equally valuable there. Many thanks for the truly wonderful content!
Such words of wisdom Nahre. I do hope that prospective undergraduate music students across the globe take note of at least some of your invaluable experience. A part two would be excellent,please. Warmest thanks.🙏☀️🇬🇧🎹🙏
A really immersive and interesting dive into the music school world. Would really like a part 2!
Well done. So many excellent points.
First time here. Amazing video! Well done and thank you!!
Fantastic Video! I would love to see a part 2. I am currently a French horn undergraduate looking to transfer to larger conservatories such as Julliard, Curtis, and Colburn. This information was very helpful. Thank you very much for the insight!
My favorite & fastest-progressing student asks a lot of questions. As a teacher, I love it!
It is so wild to hear the various things you've struggled with - my mind feels in disbelief. I know that you are a person who can make mistakes + needs time to learn just like me, but so much of what you do is so compellingly artful that it just seems "natural". Which, as someone who also spends a lot of time learning things others see as "talent" (such as learning other languages, or programming, etc), I know is false; your labor and discipline are clear!
As a fellow music major I don’t think I have ever stumbled upon a more relatable video! Thank you for the tips! This was very eye opening and confirming for me.
A very wise and useful video! More please - especially concerning how you found your own way of working, composing, playing, and how to break down the barriers between different 'departments' of learning: this last is one of your most remarkable achievements.
As someone who has dreamt of going to Julliard this is awesome!!!! I'd love to see a Part 2
Thank you so much for so eloquently sharing your experience. Julliard was a subject in my household growing up. I wound up not going. I thought all my life I missed out on a wonderful opportunity. You helped me to realize now, after all these years, it would not have been the right thing for me. Now, in my older years, I enjoy my renewed quest in developing my musical gifts. It is no more a burden that I have lost something. Thank you so much for this realization.
Certainly not timid, you are loquacious and superbly articulate. Precious, in fact. Very interesting and well produced.
Wonderfully honest. I think it's just another sign of how you've progressed as a musician/performer even since I've been following you on RUclips.
I'm speechless... I started watching the video out of curiosity and ended up watching the whole thing!
Great advice, even for someone considerably older and mostly pursuing music for personal fulfillment. I'd love to see a Part II.
Honest, inspiring and insightful! Worth spreading.❤
I applying to three music schools (medium prestige, I’d say), and knowing what goes on in high caliber schools will certainly help me prepare for what’s ahead. Can’t wait for more videos on this subject!
PART 2 PLEASEEE!!!
I love this topic and I love how you express yourself
Thank you!!
Really enjoyable and useful. Thanks Nahre.
I would love to see a part 2 of this! The one thing I guess I'm bummed seeing this and other similar type of videos recently was how I did not have them before I entered college or during my freshman year (or my ego as a high school student was too big for me to listen to 'experts' and stuff then, which too, is sadly true), as it would have helped me accept my shortcomings and given me lots more courage to explore the different options. There's not much you can do (regarding undergraduate studies) when you're a year from graduation, after all:/
I guess I'm still really grateful for these types of content, though, for the people who are going into music schools or are weighing and considering these things, because this is so much insight packed into 12 minutes. Love your vids and thanks for the video!
Thank you for this video 😊 As a music student in my first year, it helps me a lot listening to another more experienced musician share her views over studies, preparations and feelings ✨
Yes. A part 2 please!!!!
Thank you for this Video! And pleaaaase do it! Part 2 with things you wish you learned at school!! :D
Thanks so much Nahre! I am so glad to hear you say you've followed your own path . . . that of a concert pianist is so difficult, lonely and not a great way to live one's life (not that I've experienced it . . . but, for example, Yuja Wang's jet lag must have jet lag, and one hotel room ends up looking like another, and accolades from hoards must become indistinguishable one from the other. You are truly living a creative, self directed life. I so admire you. And send you love.
Thank you! I just graduated with a degree in music with piano and working toward submitting my application for grad school. Hearing you talk about the nerves involved with music made you seem so much more relatable than some pianists who are so good and likable even but who seem to have no weaknesses.
You are simply amazing as a musician. You communicate so well that you can be the best music teacher/lecturer and students will love you for that. Not just that, with your talent and great achievements you can venture into any profession you feel like - similar to an Olympic gold medallist - the world is your oyster.