I have one of these amps and a lot of people complain about the treble and some of them spend big bux on replacing the speaker. I found a RUclips describing the bright cap snip mod, but that made it sound dead. So I replaced it with a lower value cap, the 7080 speaker sounds great on both channels now. What a keeper and it only cost 80 cents.
Watching this video, I was thinking, “Wow, this is unlike all the other shootouts I have seen featuring these speakers. The Seventy-80 sounds much better!” Then you adjusted the EQ for the Creamback, I was like “Ahhhh!” Still, you did a great job of EQing to get the best out of both speakers. The Seventy-80 can be a winner.This shows that one has to put in the time with the amp controls and dial it in. Everything can’t be just set flat. Some speakers will be decent that way, but most require some ear-work. Also you win the internet for starting with Iron Maiden.
So far in my RUclips comparison marathon it appears the Seventy80 sounds the most raw (i.e. least digital or processed) of all the Celestion speakers. This can be a good or bad thing, but definitely has its place.
WTF....I just realized, out of the blue, while watching this..... that the way to determine the perfet guitar tone, is to match/compliment the timber of the vocalist !! 😲 !!
I wonder from a "noise floor" point of view and a studio scenario, its better to record with the brighter speaker and "cut " the offending frequencies than record with the duller speaker and "add" or boost the desired frequencies'.. Of course in a live environment, one would simply choose the one they preferred without post production.
You’re probably right. I’m just a home studio guy and try to get the best tone I can. A professional engineer would maybe choose a brighter speaker. Or maybe just depends on the engineer?
Thanks! That was an instrumental I wrote inspired by the amazing George Lynch of Dokken and Lynch Mob. Here’s the full version: ruclips.net/video/CQyzUnA7dzA/видео.html
Just roll off some ice pick frequencies and that Seventy 80 beats a Neo Creamback. To add warmth use a germanium fuzzface with volume roll off. And the neodymium extracted for the magnet was definately made super unethically in inner mongolia anyway, so you don't get much a difference from buying eng vs china celestion. I like ferrite magnets poured in america. But I actually use only Celestion rn so who am I to say.
Yes the Seventy 80 is first. The pic is on the screen for whatever speaker is playing at the time. Btw, the other speaker is a Neo Creamback. The G12 30 Anniversary is a different speaker. Thanks for watching. 👍🏼
Both speakers were recorded in the combo. The Orange was only used for a stand. I didn’t notice a low end difference. It’s the mids that are really different to me.
@@georgefromgreece4119 Yep. Looking at the frequency response, the two main things that make the Creamback warmer is more of a cut at 1500 hz and a steeper drop off above 2500 hz. The Seventy 80 keeps these frequencies higher and makes it a brighter speaker.
70/80 sounded great.
Good job! The 70-80 gets a lot heat but it sounded pretty good here.
It’ll definitely cut through a mix!
Dig the Iron Maiden. Great video. Thanks.
The playing on this sounded like it was recorded at a pro studio for a major label album release. Excellent.
I have one of these amps and a lot of people complain about the treble and some of them spend big bux on replacing the speaker. I found a RUclips describing the bright cap snip mod, but that made it sound dead. So I replaced it with a lower value cap, the 7080 speaker sounds great on both channels now. What a keeper and it only cost 80 cents.
I have DSL 20.....gonna check this out...thanks
what value do you put in?
Changed the c19 with a 180pF. Tamed the treble just right. Also tried a 120pF too but too low, made the clean comparatively too bright.
Watching this video, I was thinking, “Wow, this is unlike all the other shootouts I have seen featuring these speakers. The Seventy-80 sounds much better!” Then you adjusted the EQ for the Creamback, I was like “Ahhhh!” Still, you did a great job of EQing to get the best out of both speakers. The Seventy-80 can be a winner.This shows that one has to put in the time with the amp controls and dial it in. Everything can’t be just set flat. Some speakers will be decent that way, but most require some ear-work. Also you win the internet for starting with Iron Maiden.
Woody, you're so right in your thinking! Thank you. If anyone is interested in 12" guitar speaker comparisons, I've got some! :-)
So far in my RUclips comparison marathon it appears the Seventy80 sounds the most raw (i.e. least digital or processed) of all the Celestion speakers. This can be a good or bad thing, but definitely has its place.
It definitely has a unique sound and has a mid spike that cuts through.
It could work if that’s what’s needed.
WTF....I just realized, out of the blue, while watching this..... that the way to determine the perfet guitar tone, is to match/compliment the timber of the vocalist !! 😲 !!
Great demonstration 👍
Thanks!
I wonder from a "noise floor" point of view and a studio scenario, its better to record with the brighter speaker and "cut " the offending frequencies than record with the duller speaker and "add" or boost the desired frequencies'..
Of course in a live environment, one would simply choose the one they preferred without post production.
You’re probably right. I’m just a home studio guy and try to get the best tone I can.
A professional engineer would maybe choose a brighter speaker. Or maybe just depends on the engineer?
@@RiffMusic1970 Yes , the old maxim was : 'It was better to cut frequencies than add them ' if you could.
Thanks for the comparison. Really dug your ending riffage! What song?
Thanks! That was an instrumental I wrote inspired by the amazing George Lynch of Dokken and Lynch Mob.
Here’s the full version:
ruclips.net/video/CQyzUnA7dzA/видео.html
@@RiffMusic1970 NICE! I like it. You record it all yourself?
@@edrowley1 yes. I have a small home studio. I record all instruments myself with an Alesis SR 16 for drums. 👍🏼
Just roll off some ice pick frequencies and that Seventy 80 beats a Neo Creamback. To add warmth use a germanium fuzzface with volume roll off. And the neodymium extracted for the magnet was definately made super unethically in inner mongolia anyway, so you don't get much a difference from buying eng vs china celestion. I like ferrite magnets poured in america. But I actually use only Celestion rn so who am I to say.
Is the seventy 80 first and then the g12h30 anniversary? If so I like the seventy 80 best, which one do you keep?
Yes the Seventy 80 is first. The pic is on the screen for whatever speaker is playing at the time.
Btw, the other speaker is a Neo Creamback. The G12 30 Anniversary is a different speaker.
Thanks for watching. 👍🏼
So why did the 70/80 have more bass, was it the enclosure?
Thanx and cheers
Both speakers were recorded in the combo. The Orange was only used for a stand.
I didn’t notice a low end difference. It’s the mids that are really different to me.
@@RiffMusic1970 if I am right, the 70-80 is crispier, the cream back creamier/ warmer, right.?
The 70-80 has really open, extended highs too.
@@georgefromgreece4119
Yep. Looking at the frequency response, the two main things that make the Creamback warmer is more of a cut at 1500 hz and a steeper drop off above 2500 hz. The Seventy 80 keeps these frequencies higher and makes it a brighter speaker.
@@RiffMusic1970 and those frds totally translate to the sound!
Good job
Thanks!