the previous Tay Bridge was destroyed in a storm, which is what you saw sticking out of the water, having travelled this line and lived just beside the track on the Dundee side this looks pretty spot on!
Yes the old Tay bridge did collapse in a gale in the late 1800's. It wasn't very old and the bridge collapsed whilst a train was on the highest part. The disaster killed everyone on the train.
Great video as usual, Paul. I don't mind the complicated trains every now and then, but sometimes they frustrate me. This looks like a nice route to drive. I look forward to part 2.
at 9.02 you were talking about those things coming out the water beside the bridge they are the remains of the old brige that fell down in 1879 while a train was crossing 79 people died
+HamishPlays I'm surprised he didn't know about the Tay rail disaster, probably due to how long ago it was but it made headlines throughout the empire at the time because it was the worst storm Britain had ever seen and 'popular' socialist Karl Marx was supposed to be on the following train after doing a lecture in Dundee but he was convinced to stay the night here due to the storm. If he had been on that train the entire path of the 20th century might have been radically different and we'd be living on Mars by now or living underground hiding from 21st century Nazis.
I've been on that journey from Edinburgh but I went up further towards Aberdeen, plus I was on an East Coast train, not a Voyager. This is a very accurate simulation of it.
Squirrel! You convinced me to go and buy TS2014 on Steam. I stumbled across your channel yesterday and spent nearly 2 hours flipping through your library. Great stuff man. I'm an iRacing and flight sim guy, and I've always had an interest in the train sims but never knew much about them. After watching a few of yours, I just bought it on the Steam sale... now I have to learn how to do it! :) thanks
The bridge that you crossed was the Tay Bridge, and the anchorages that you commented on are all that remains of the original Tay Bridge, that collapsed during a violent storm in December 1879. Tragically, a train was crossing at the time that the bridge collapsed, killing all on board (estimated 75 dead). You may know of it as the Tay Bridge disaster.
The bridge just after exiting Marmalade City is the Tay Bridge which was famously destroyed in a fierce storm in 1879 whilst a train was crossing with great loss of life. As you cross it now you can see the remains of the old foundations on your left.
that's the tay bridge, and they're the struts from the old Bridge, which collapsed in a storm taking a steam train with it, and the lives of everyone on bored
I get a lot of stick playing games like this, ETS, and TS from my friends they say it's 'boring' but to me it's interesting as you learn an awful lot from them! :)
I actually work on these trains very often, the high pitched beep is the DSD not the AWS and where the tilt iso button is there is now GSMR also the front exterior display can be set on tms, anything you want to know about this train just ask :)
The beautiful Tay bridge, it's amazing to go over, and watch the mighty river Tay, fighting the north sea tides. The piers are a sombre reminder of the dangers of cocky under-engineering, in such an extreme environment, serving as a tombstone to the disaster there. This is the regular stomping ground of the hst and sprinters, and previously the deltics and A4s. Franchises have struggled to maintain the charm and service in recent years, but there's a renewed effort with the completion of the line improvement schemes in the central belt.
Green - Clear, you may proceed normally. Double yellow - Preliminary caution, the next signal is displaying a single yellow aspect. Single yellow - Caution, be prepared to stop at the next signal. Red - Danger/Stop
Squirrel, the bridge stands you were wondering about are the previous ones from the other bridge which collapsed in a storm many years ago and they built the current bridge next to it. Sorry if you already knew, just saying incase you didnt! :)
The graphics of the Tay bridge departing Dundee as you cross it are spot on the old bridge structures on the left are where the old bridge fell down think there was people killed too they had to rebuild it I've been on this route so thought I'd give this a look wow
Hi Paul, you mentioned that the train is too small but it is actually the correct length. The Virgin Voyager Class 221 is 5 coaches long. You're thinking of the Virgin Pendolino Class 390 which can be 9 coaches long or 11 coaches long. I hope I've helped :)
Surprisingly realistic. It's almost the same as real life, with the quarry and bus depot just off the Tay Bridge, which are there in real life. And the buses even have the correct livery!
And you can make different songs while alternating the bell and horn buttons... Thinking you should play *this old man* when passing through a station.. XD
As regarding The Tay Bridge and the other struts that you mention in the video, that is the remains of the old bridge that collapsed in 1879 resulting in many lives being lost as a train was crossing it.
Loving this wee run down from Dundee as i used to work at Inverkeithing station and looking forward to seeing how its mapped as the ones so far in this video are pretty accurate. The bridge peices in the river are from the original Tay bridge. As for town names, Leuchars is pronounced 'lookers', Cupar is 'cooper'.
Just for future reference, Leuchars is pronounced "lookers", Cupar "Coopar" and Kirkcaldy is just without the "l" (Possibly "Kirkoddy" depending your own inflections.)
You should get a RailDriver (that is the name) and it's an amazing piece of machinery, it is modeled after a Dash-9 locomotive, which is an American locomotive used for hauling freight. Make sure you contact them and tell them that you are using it for TS14
It is a very realistic train, it requires you to turn on the battery, do numerous alarm checks and wait 20 minutes for brake pressure to rise. If you want a 220/221 you can just get in and drive, get the Voyager standard from Just Trains. If you want the intermediate version for the hardcore sim player, get the Voyager Advanced from Just Trains.
ROY CHIZANA Pendolino are 9 & 11 coaches long, VT Super Voyagers are only 5 and some work in pairs for long trips making 10 but some that come though the west midlands for Edinburgh only use one set of Super Voyager
There are controls at the driver's feet. I think it's Driver Reminder Appliance (could be wrong on the name) which is a pedal they have to press every 15 seconds to tell the train he's alive and well.
It's because it's a dynamic engine brake, but if you need to slow down quickly you need to press the emergency brake button, he should of pressed the emergency brake button when he was coming up to the first station.
The train your mum went to London on from Liverpool is a Pendolino train, different to this one your driving Paul, this is a 4 car 221 and can be coupled up to make an 8 or 12 car.
those stumps are from the old tay bridge. On the 28th December 1879 it collapsed killing "i think everyone on board" not sure exactly. look up the Tay Bridge Disaster
Some tourist information for those watching this in the future and thinking of paying this part of the world a visit! The google maps part before Paul commences game play shows 2 sections of water with land in the middle. To the north, the estuary of the river Tay, known in Scots as the firth ie the firth of Tay. Dundee - Where game play begins is famous for Jute, which is a material used during the 1900s as a base for all sorts of things including carpeting. Today it has great entertainment venues and recently opened a V+A Museum just outside Dundee Station. The main body of land in the middle is the Kingdom of Fife, called so as a city to the south, Dunfermline, was the ancient capital of Scotland between 1200 and 1400. Luechars is the closest train station to St Andrews, famous for Golf. Cupar is a beautiful town worth a day trip in anyones book. Kirkcaldy was one time the world leader in Linoleum manufacturing and pretty much any cushion floor with a detailed, stylish design during the 18th and 19th century was probably a Robert Nairn of kirkcaldy design. The water to the south is the river Forth, so we see the firth of Forth, home of the world famous Forth Bridge which we see paul go over in part 3. If you ever find yourself in Edinburgh, take a couple of days to Visit Dunfermline, Kirkcaldy (if only to transfer to a bus along the coast to places like Anstruther), St Andrews and Dundee!
I think the things at the side of the tay bridge when you are coming out of Dundee are from when tay bridge that collapsed in 1879 due to very stormy weather when a train was on it killing about 70 people. Correct me if I am wrong.
at your first stop on this scenario did you notice the name of the coach standing outside the station well if you didn't you should look and you would laugh as it says just trains on the back of it talk about free advertising lmao
hello. I live in Edinburgh, great place, the first stop after the tay bridge is RAF lauchers, pronounced LOU-KERS. and also it is pronounced KIR-CAW-DAY. thought I would help. lol which is no more now, they closed it down. the east main line is a food line, I go from Edinburgh to Aberdeen, 2 and half hour journey of bliss.
I know about Dundee and Edinburgh (I went there recently), but some of the towns I didn't recognise. However, I recognised leuchars for the same reason, the RAF base!
33:15 the Edinburgh to Euston train is a class 390 Pendolino if you say it's that long (and they skip certain carriage letters). Or it's 2 voyagers joined together. 221s are 5 carriages long and all 5 of them carry passengers..
Hi squirrel, great videos but i have a few points for newer videos, the Dundee to Penzance service is normally a HST service as most cross-country trains to the south west terminate in Plymouth. also, kirkcaldy is pronounced kirkoddy and leuchars is pronounced loocars. keep making great content
The train brakes slow because it use a dynamic brake, which is basically engine braking, compared to other trains that use a standard train brake (friction).
I live about 400m from this line just South of Ladybank. I can confirm all the Virgin trains I have seen pass by in the last year have been 9 carriages/two engines. It's the Cross Country trains that are 4 carriages, so I don't think this video is entirely accurate - at least according to my many observations. We can now even tell what type of train is passing by the noise! I've been on both services on work journeys down to Edinburgh and beyond. Virgin are way better, especially in 1st.
the previous Tay Bridge was destroyed in a storm, which is what you saw sticking out of the water, having travelled this line and lived just beside the track on the Dundee side this looks pretty spot on!
The pillars next to the bridge at Dundee are from an old bridge that was destroyed in a storm a long time ago. And it looks awesome in real life.
Nearly teared up when Paul said "you see these around the UK everyday" RIP the virgin voyager🙏
Yeah, not the same witj XC. I like them, and I wasnt even born to go on one (2005), so ive only ever known XC, but they did look amazing
Yeah, not the same witj XC. I like them, and I wasnt even born to go on one (2005), so ive only ever known XC, but they did look amazing
I think the old Tay Bridge collapsed during a storm hence the old beige supports
Yes the old Tay bridge did collapse in a gale in the late 1800's. It wasn't very old and the bridge collapsed whilst a train was on the highest part. The disaster killed everyone on the train.
Yes it did
Those parts in water at start was the old bridge tht collapsed 100+ years ago the taybridge disaster.
Great video as usual, Paul. I don't mind the complicated trains every now and then, but sometimes they frustrate me. This looks like a nice route to drive. I look forward to part 2.
The original tay bridge collapsed as a train was crossing in 1879, the pillars are still visible and are perfectly depicted in this sim!
It’s been 6 years since I’ve watched you. I’m so happy I found you again
at 9.02 you were talking about those things coming out the water beside the bridge they are the remains of the old brige that fell down in 1879 while a train was crossing 79 people died
+HamishPlays that bridge had bad cross-section aerodynamics, yeah?
+HamishPlays I'm surprised he didn't know about the Tay rail disaster, probably due to how long ago it was but it made headlines throughout the empire at the time because it was the worst storm Britain had ever seen and 'popular' socialist Karl Marx was supposed to be on the following train after doing a lecture in Dundee but he was convinced to stay the night here due to the storm. If he had been on that train the entire path of the 20th century might have been radically different and we'd be living on Mars by now or living underground hiding from 21st century Nazis.
The tay bridge collapsed because of faulty design and a very heavy storm. The tay bridge disaster happened at 19h15 on the 28th December 1879
I love that you even showed us where exactly this route is with google maps!
Love this video, im from dundee and have been on the dundee to Edinburgh line many of times and thia is a very realistic representation of the journey
I've been on that journey from Edinburgh but I went up further towards Aberdeen, plus I was on an East Coast train, not a Voyager. This is a very accurate simulation of it.
Watching this in 2019...the intro gave me the maddest nostalgia....great times
Squirrel! You convinced me to go and buy TS2014 on Steam. I stumbled across your channel yesterday and spent nearly 2 hours flipping through your library. Great stuff man. I'm an iRacing and flight sim guy, and I've always had an interest in the train sims but never knew much about them. After watching a few of yours, I just bought it on the Steam sale... now I have to learn how to do it! :) thanks
Good luck :)
I absolutely love it when you do train simulator videos they;re incredible.
That's a fairly decent model of Dundee, considering how often it changes!
The bridge that you crossed was the Tay Bridge, and the anchorages that you commented on are all that remains of the original Tay Bridge, that collapsed during a violent storm in December 1879. Tragically, a train was crossing at the time that the bridge collapsed, killing all on board (estimated 75 dead). You may know of it as the Tay Bridge disaster.
The bridge just after exiting Marmalade City is the Tay Bridge which was famously destroyed in a fierce storm in 1879 whilst a train was crossing with great loss of life. As you cross it now you can see the remains of the old foundations on your left.
I've crossed that bride many times, I live in dundee :)
Relaxed, not rushed streaming/chatting. Your worth a sub. gd vid.
that's the tay bridge, and they're the struts from the old Bridge, which collapsed in a storm taking a steam train with it, and the lives of everyone on bored
I get a lot of stick playing games like this, ETS, and TS from my friends they say it's 'boring' but to me it's interesting as you learn an awful lot from them! :)
Me too!!
I guess some people just don't understand us Simmers!
Same
Same. With sim gaming you either take to it or you don't.
I'm from Scotland and I loved the way you pronounce Edinburgh and Kirkalday. Good journey and great train
I actually work on these trains very often, the high pitched beep is the DSD not the AWS and where the tilt iso button is there is now GSMR also the front exterior display can be set on tms, anything you want to know about this train just ask :)
Hey Jordan, what's GSMR and tilt iso? :)
The beautiful Tay bridge, it's amazing to go over, and watch the mighty river Tay, fighting the north sea tides. The piers are a sombre reminder of the dangers of cocky under-engineering, in such an extreme environment, serving as a tombstone to the disaster there. This is the regular stomping ground of the hst and sprinters, and previously the deltics and A4s. Franchises have struggled to maintain the charm and service in recent years, but there's a renewed effort with the completion of the line improvement schemes in the central belt.
Green - Clear, you may proceed normally.
Double yellow - Preliminary caution, the next signal is displaying a single yellow aspect.
Single yellow - Caution, be prepared to stop at the next signal.
Red - Danger/Stop
Squirrel, the bridge stands you were wondering about are the previous ones from the other bridge which collapsed in a storm many years ago and they built the current bridge next to it. Sorry if you already knew, just saying incase you didnt! :)
The graphics of the Tay bridge departing Dundee as you cross it are spot on the old bridge structures on the left are where the old bridge fell down think there was people killed too they had to rebuild it I've been on this route so thought I'd give this a look wow
Great video am really loving this series.
Hi Paul, you mentioned that the train is too small but it is actually the correct length. The Virgin Voyager Class 221 is 5 coaches long. You're thinking of the Virgin Pendolino Class 390 which can be 9 coaches long or 11 coaches long. I hope I've helped :)
Thanks !
Squirrel youre actually on the west coast mainline not east
Sam Rogers Wrong.
+Sam Rogers Wrong.
Luke okay
Surprisingly realistic. It's almost the same as real life, with the quarry and bus depot just off the Tay Bridge, which are there in real life. And the buses even have the correct livery!
And you can make different songs while alternating the bell and horn buttons... Thinking you should play *this old man* when passing through a station.. XD
I LOVE YOU AND YOUR UK TRAIN JOURNEYS trying to deal with trainz 2010 after 8 years of trainz 2009
As regarding The Tay Bridge and the other struts that you mention in the video, that is the remains of the old bridge that collapsed in 1879 resulting in many lives being lost as a train was crossing it.
Loving this wee run down from Dundee as i used to work at Inverkeithing station and looking forward to seeing how its mapped as the ones so far in this video are pretty accurate. The bridge peices in the river are from the original Tay bridge. As for town names, Leuchars is pronounced 'lookers', Cupar is 'cooper'.
The best train sim video so far!
This video is cool as I get this train frequently every few weeks. :D
Hi Squirrel, so glad you decided to pick the route and train up, you should enjoy it a lot, just remember to brake early ;)
THIS IS INTENSE!
Adrenaline is pumping!!
Wow... Paul on the Voyager Advanced
Just for future reference, Leuchars is pronounced "lookers", Cupar "Coopar" and Kirkcaldy is just without the "l" (Possibly "Kirkoddy" depending your own inflections.)
Ha, I didn't scroll far enough
Those struts where the old bridge that collapsed and killed everybody in a train when it fell
You should get a RailDriver (that is the name) and it's an amazing piece of machinery, it is modeled after a Dash-9 locomotive, which is an American locomotive used for hauling freight. Make sure you contact them and tell them that you are using it for TS14
He has ordered one.
Ok then
24TrainMan42 no
Albin Lindqvist Yes
OMG Thank you Paul for doing this video, I live in Cornwall and not far from Penzance. Thank you so much, for putting Cornwall in to your video :D
Will you be carrying on to Penzance? If so look out for Redruth Station this is my hometown.
It is a very realistic train, it requires you to turn on the battery, do numerous alarm checks and wait 20 minutes for brake pressure to rise. If you want a 220/221 you can just get in and drive, get the Voyager standard from Just Trains. If you want the intermediate version for the hardcore sim player, get the Voyager Advanced from Just Trains.
the small bridge just before Edinburgh is called the forth rail bride! keep up the good work paul! :D
I have a raildriver, and it's totally worth it.
I like trains
Yes you do!
NoTimeToExplain no its "hahaha yess you do"
uh oh no
no trains ahh
You can do that and it will make your vids epic
So I've just sat watched this got hooked and just went and bought the 2018 version and all dlc see you next year lol
That train that your mother takes is a pendolino.
Its the voyager not the pendolino
ROY CHIZANA Pendolino are 9 & 11 coaches long, VT Super Voyagers are only 5 and some work in pairs for long trips making 10 but some that come though the west midlands for Edinburgh only use one set of Super Voyager
***** It's a Voyager
Facepalm when he gets the names wrong! 😂
Good video but please do some research on the root, the Dundee bridge stumps are the old bridge foundations. Many people died.
There are controls at the driver's feet. I think it's Driver Reminder Appliance (could be wrong on the name) which is a pedal they have to press every 15 seconds to tell the train he's alive and well.
I got this within 3 days of watching this for the first time
you know when your stomach feels funny when you really want somthing? mine feels funny because i really want to play this game. it's so cool.
The brakes on that train must be crap
There Very Good But The Braking System On The Train Isn't The Best
Meaning You Have To Brake Early
It's because it's a dynamic engine brake, but if you need to slow down quickly you need to press the emergency brake button, he should of pressed the emergency brake button when he was coming up to the first station.
Its an amazing simulator and you are very good at driving it
love your videos, hope you can do more train, plane simulator and forza
once again i love your work and i hope to see more great videos in the future
The train your mum went to London on from Liverpool is a Pendolino train, different to this one your driving Paul, this is a 4 car 221 and can be coupled up to make an 8 or 12 car.
Dundee looks not bad also that's part of the old tay bridge your seen beside the bridge that collapsed during a storm
those stumps are from the old tay bridge. On the 28th December 1879 it collapsed killing "i think everyone on board" not sure exactly. look up the Tay Bridge Disaster
Some tourist information for those watching this in the future and thinking of paying this part of the world a visit!
The google maps part before Paul commences game play shows 2 sections of water with land in the middle. To the north, the estuary of the river Tay, known in Scots as the firth ie the firth of Tay. Dundee - Where game play begins is famous for Jute, which is a material used during the 1900s as a base for all sorts of things including carpeting. Today it has great entertainment venues and recently opened a V+A Museum just outside Dundee Station.
The main body of land in the middle is the Kingdom of Fife, called so as a city to the south, Dunfermline, was the ancient capital of Scotland between 1200 and 1400. Luechars is the closest train station to St Andrews, famous for Golf. Cupar is a beautiful town worth a day trip in anyones book. Kirkcaldy was one time the world leader in Linoleum manufacturing and pretty much any cushion floor with a detailed, stylish design during the 18th and 19th century was probably a Robert Nairn of kirkcaldy design.
The water to the south is the river Forth, so we see the firth of Forth, home of the world famous Forth Bridge which we see paul go over in part 3.
If you ever find yourself in Edinburgh, take a couple of days to Visit Dunfermline, Kirkcaldy (if only to transfer to a bus along the coast to places like Anstruther), St Andrews and Dundee!
I adore the virgin pendolino they're so amazing in RL.
The Armstrong powerhouse sound pack makes it so the throttle stays at 100%
Those sections in the water are parts of the old Tay bridge which was involved in the Tay bridge Disaster
I think the things at the side of the tay bridge when you are coming out of Dundee are from when tay bridge that collapsed in 1879 due to very stormy weather when a train was on it killing about 70 people. Correct me if I am wrong.
at your first stop on this scenario did you notice the name of the coach standing outside the station well if you didn't you should look and you would laugh as it says just trains on the back of it talk about free advertising lmao
To be fair, the massive slope downhill before Leuchars was incredibly steep for a train. I suspect that was the real issue.
paul if you like the advanced nature of this train try the class 90 DLC as well it is so fun to get started
Called the RailDriver, Squirrel :)
Bridge struts are from an old bridge that collapsed in a big storm on 28/12/1879
nice one paul! :D
hello. I live in Edinburgh, great place, the first stop after the tay bridge is RAF lauchers, pronounced LOU-KERS. and also it is pronounced KIR-CAW-DAY. thought I would help. lol which is no more now, they closed it down. the east main line is a food line, I go from Edinburgh to Aberdeen, 2 and half hour journey of bliss.
Dundee! What a city :)
I wish we would get more train simulator.
that Place 'Leuchars' its pronounced 'Luke -ers' reason being i regularly go there as there is an RAF Typhoon base there, RAF Leuchars
:)
I know about Dundee and Edinburgh (I went there recently), but some of the towns I didn't recognise. However, I recognised leuchars for the same reason, the RAF base!
this airbase is no longer an airbase :( loved going to the Airshow's
the other bridge bases in the water after Dundee are from a bridge that collapsed during new years eve quite a while ago
great work paul
33:15 the Edinburgh to Euston train is a class 390 Pendolino if you say it's that long (and they skip certain carriage letters). Or it's 2 voyagers joined together. 221s are 5 carriages long and all 5 of them carry passengers..
plus those bridge struts that you saw in Dundee it was a part of the bridge cos it used to have a railway station on it
Hi squirrel, great videos but i have a few points for newer videos, the Dundee to Penzance service is normally a HST service as most cross-country trains to the south west terminate in Plymouth. also, kirkcaldy is pronounced kirkoddy and leuchars is pronounced loocars. keep making great content
The stands sticking up from the water was from a previus bridge that FELL DOWN
13:57 "as you can see, some p-oooh..."
Oh that makes me laugh so bad. XD
To change the destination board you press control+F12 and to scroll back through the list is control+shift+F12
Fantastic! I'm glad I'm not the only one to misjudge the breaking on the first platform... Going downhill is terrible!
I'm from Scotland and when u said massive bridge incoming u went over the river Tay which is the biggest river in Scotland and the river forth
Never heard of that website but I went to it and it did have fairly good prices. Thinking about buying some of my Train Sim products from there.
The train brakes slow because it use a dynamic brake, which is basically engine braking, compared to other trains that use a standard train brake (friction).
8.59 back im the 1800s the tay bridge fell a part thats the original bridge you are looking at
The bridge at the start is the Tay Bridge
Mister cool guy with the squished head
Looks great, only if they could combine flight,train and trucking simulators that would be epic
Really like driving this train.
The bridge near dundee was the tay bridge before 1879 when it collapsed in a storm with a train on it.
You missed the whistle board your Kent to sound your two tone horn with b and space happy new year
Have a look at the class 20 collection from just trains and the Armstrong powerhouse sound packs
I live about 400m from this line just South of Ladybank. I can confirm all the Virgin trains I have seen pass by in the last year have been 9 carriages/two engines. It's the Cross Country trains that are 4 carriages, so I don't think this video is entirely accurate - at least according to my many observations. We can now even tell what type of train is passing by the noise! I've been on both services on work journeys down to Edinburgh and beyond. Virgin are way better, especially in 1st.
Edinburgh has that famous railroad bridge. The marvel that was part of the big change. I think it is called the firth of fourth?
great vid as usual
I live on the other side of the bridge out of dundee!! My village, wormit, isn't in the game though!!
Yo. Sup from Dundee. Born and raised here, ayyyy.