🚘 Can Petlas 285 Tires Fit 8.5 Inch BMW Stock Wheels? Petlas Velox Sport PT741 285/35R19
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Updated as of September 26, 2023: The Petlas tires are still performing amazingly! I got new front tires and NOW the traction control is perfect! No more wiggling when traction is trying to adjust to wheel rotation. All I needed was front tires, and this car is back to driving like a DREAM!!
Tested the wide wheel theory on my 2019 BMW 330i XDrive. 285/35/19 rear wheels on 8.5 inch stock M Wheels. This video will explain everything in detail, especially the parts that other videos will intentionally skip over.
Tires: Petlas Velox Sport PT741 285/35R19 99Y BSW
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Fantastic video, really helped me. People were telling me I couldn't do 275 35 19 on the back but sounds like I should have zero issues. I've got a 2015 435i on stock suspension. Going 245 40 19 on the front. Currently at the shop getting the rubber put on so fingers crossed. Very helpful video! Thanks!
I ran 275s with no issues for over a year on these stock rear wheels! Don't listen to the haters, man. They don't wanna see you be great, that's all. I've been on these 285 since I put this video out, and when they wear out, I'm staying with 285s. I have to get a 9.5" to go 295, but I'm ok with my stock wheels and the 285. Runs flawlessly!
You're gonna love the 275 look! I went from 255 to 275 and it was a whole different look! Nice stance!!
Great video! Nice to see these tires get decent reviews, in fact for such a cheap tire the reviews I've seen have been exceptional. I'm considering them for a dedicated summer setup to go w/ my All Season tires that I need 5 months a year. Your video may have sealed the deal, and will be going w/a 255/40/18 front on 8.5" wheel and a 285/35/18 rear on a 9.5" width, should work well, and for a tire that costs a third of what the Michelins cost I'm sure they'll do just fine, plus my tire shredding days are in my past lol. Keep up the good work, and nice BMW by the way!
@bnewt1139 thanks!!! 🙏 And I'm still rolling on them, just fine. They have very little wear and I've put about 13k miles on em. Tread still solid! And they give the car that M stance without the M price tag! Hahaha! I will go 9.5" rear one day, but these 8.5" are doing OK. A little wider wouldn't hurt. There's clearance back there!
And they look like race tires from the back. You're gonna love it!!!
@@MicDropBBQ Great to hear that, looks like I've got 4 items to "add to cart" :)
I had a similar issue for years running 265/35/19 (loved the look) on my M45 S and after another 2 years and losing another set of tires to inner tread wear, I just put on the factory 245/40/19, problem solved ( although my rims are staggered 19x8 front and 19x8.5 rear and I run 3/4 spacers). No more wiggling and noise, and I believe the "Rear Active Steering" is happy (I rarely see TCS kick in now) It's a shame but like you said on the highway made all the difference, and with my full size spared it showed me i need to run the oem size.
However, on my nissan I have wider rims from factory and its lowered on coil-overs with 3/4 spacers. I have no choice but to run 235/40/17 (For years I mean 5 years no issues until my tires started dry rotting and pitting that now i need to change them; Plus the shop messed up my alignment.) So I'm going to try these tires on my nissan SpecV. Thank you.
I run 255/45/19 on the front and thinking of going back down to 245/45/19. Same 8" wheels like you got up there. The 255s make it look beefy, but I know it's killing my gas mileage. Corners like a boss and protects the rims nicely. It just sits wide up there.
I've not had the inner tread issue on the rear, but I've always had it on the front. Don't know how to resolve that. Tires still last a while, but the inside wears a lot faster.
The rear has been flawless. The 285s still got a ton of tread from this install video til now.
What brand coilovers you run? I was looking at some from ebay, but not sure if it will make my ride super bumpy.
@@MicDropBBQ regarding your possible alignment issue on the front honestly, I forgot to mention I have front and rear camber adjustment arms via truhart ( I think is the correct name).
I'm not too sure but I'm very sure the setup is very similar to the Infiniti with the double wishbone suspension front and rear.
Most likely you will have to probably get those adjustments or adjustable camber plates that will allow for caster adjustment and center your tires. Being that it's a performance M series I'm sure your Suspension is fully adaptive, and there may be a way to adjust the tuning with the BMW/aftermarket shop that specializes in them and can help fine tube your line for you.
On my M45 I chose to leave the set up alone ( so just changed the shocks). The Nissan *(Sentra) has CX racing coil overs (Similar to meganracing which are similar if not another division of BC racing). On my Impala I have BC racing. the mazda 6 I just have oem with Bilstine B4 shocks.
I can't think of what brand BMW guys run, although lately guys who on budget drifting do raceland ( I can't say I recommend those) I would go with BC, K sports, etc on that line. However, if you'r suspension is adaptive, it's really up to you, I would go with air ride or air coils set up..
I'm glad the tires are working out for you thus far, and I hope you can get get the wear issue solved. I didn't notice an increase in fuel mileage when I changed to these BlackHawk tires ( I miss my federals), but that also could be due to the recent diff fluid change with redline.
It's sad, we don't live in the old days when you had really awesome tire brands, at sweet low prices; now we have to be hell cautious on what we get, who it's made buy, and will it last in the long run while also providing us performance with comfort and safety.
@@MicDropBBQ BTW I'm curious do you have a video on your Car Cover/Port area? I really like that set up and would love to see how it functions. I'm not sure how well it would do in North Carolina with the hurricanes and sporadic isolated ice storms, but it looks good from what I can tell in the video.
@gsxellence Yeah, the suspension works with a button to firm it up or leave it in Comfort mode. I'm thinking a shop that deals with BMW would say the same thing you're saying, as it makes complete sense to not mess with it. It's tied into the ECU and it's probably tire related more than anything else. I've done camber alignments on my Escalade myself, and it takes forever to do it without a computer or something like that. Literally a week to get it riding right, messing with it daily. Not trying to do all that again. hahaha! Thanks, brotha! I'll talk to a shop to see who set up a 330i Xdrive before and what all they had to buy. I like the ride, but damn the inside of the tires go faster than the outside and that bothers me.
@gsxellence I have clips of how I built it, and it holds up in this monsoon weather. Less than $400 in steel and the canopy and lights, but took me a weekend off and on. The wooden portion over the driveway was a lot less expensive than the steel one. Just needed to dig holes to bury the concrete blocks the poles are attached to. Always a project, I swear. Hahaha! I'll get the video clips of the build together. I know where they are.
Hello from Ukraine and thank you for the video!
Welcome to the channel! Glad ya came by, all the way from Ukraine! I still have the same tires on the car and it drives amazing!
Great video
Thanks Greg. Still rolling on them 285s. It takes about 2-3mpg off the average in street driving. As long as you have good traction on the front tires, the ECU will allow traction to work perfectly.
When I first put these on, woooo! It was dancing all over the place on the highway!!!
Nice whip bruh thats a spaceship fo sho
Thanks brotha! She be moving thru traffic!! Zippy car!!
What the Maximum speed ? i can see 275/35/r19 -96v ?
With traction control on, around 80mph before you start to feel weird. This means you can basically drive the car like a normal car 99% of the time.
It's that 1% of the time that you want to go a little faster to get around someone on the highway - or to get on the highway - and you've gotta step on it. THAT'S when you'll feel something different with the 285s.
Now that I've got my tire psi adjusted correctly, I turn the traction control off. With an xDrive vehicle, all of the wheels don't apply the same amount of traction and torque at the same time. I'll do a video about xDrive power and it will make more sense.
I tested a comfortable top speed for me the other night, and I got it up to 102mph and it felt normal. No shimmy in the back. No shaking. But I have no need to go 102mph, but just wanted to see at what point would it happen again. It's not happening, but that doesn't mean it's engineered the way it should be. That's my disclaimer for people thinking they can watch my video and go, "...it works! I can do it."
I never said that it works, and I wanna make that clear to anyone trying a setup not designed for narrow wheels and wide tires.
Great video, very helpful thank you. I was checking into fitting 265 on 8.5 wheels. Currently running 245 40 18. Now am due to replace I was thinking the 265 may increase performance. Square set up FWD car.
265s will fit, no.problem. Now that I've been driving on these tires for a big, I've gotten the hang of them. 285s are even doing better after I replaced the front tires with new ones. Still running 255/35/19 on front, and traction control now matches the wheels speeds better. No wiggle at any speed!
I should do an update video to break down the setup because it took a bit to figure out. The All wheel drive system was throwing it off because the front tires were old and not in good shape when I added these 285s on back.
Now, I would say anything up to 285s should be ok if you have the fender clearance.
If you mounted those by hand that had to have been a chore. 35s are hard to mount on a machine. Nice work!
Oh yes! Keeping that tire under the bead far enough was a damn battle! I don't even try to do thiose run flats! Hell no!!!
I've got an arsenal of mounting equipment! I need a hydraulic machine so I can speed up my process! 🤣😅😆
Long story short haha my tire blowout. I was on my way home and I see a $25 surge at the airport. I drove and took $20.50 from Lyft. Just 8 minutes driving with the passenger on the freeway 🛣️ a crazy nail slow me down lol.
Daaaaaaaaamn!!! Man, we need ridedhare car support!
@@MicDropBBQ Exactly! I haven’t heard nothing from lyft since…
@@jamesc.3365 So Lyft decided to pull you offline for a flat tire??? And they've not sent you a ride since?
@@MicDropBBQ I texted lyft Brother. Let them I gotta flat tire no ones reached out to me back. The passenger said she can’t get a ride back she was on a wheelchair. I put the spare tire on and dropped her off
@@MicDropBBQ worst customer service
I about to buy 285/35r19 michelin runflats on a 9.5 rear wheels do you recommend? I have 255 on front with 9 wheels
Oh, you can make that fit, easily. The 285s will fit better on a 9.5 than what I'm running. Yours will spread the sidewalls out a bit more and it'll look more flush, like it was meant to be.
My next set of wheels will be 9.5 rears, for sure. I don't mind the look I have now, but 9.5s will widen it to where it'll look like a true M-series.
@@MicDropBBQ thank u, buying tomorrow!
@@MicDropBBQ so im not going to have any trouble going at high speeds? Im rwd
@@Vicesilverg20 Nope. I've taken mine up to around 110mph just to see. This car comes down the ramp at 90mph! LOL! No fishtailing or anything.
When I first put them on, it was squirrely and I had to turn on traction control. I thought it was the rear tires. It was actually the FRONT tires that caused the issues, as they were wearing down on the inside, so the contact was off. I did a video showing how worn the inside of the front where. Radials were showing!
Swapped em out with new 255s up front and FLAWLESS! Now I have even-traction all around.
@@Vicesilverg20 Keep me posted, brotha. I know for a fact that they'll fit because my wheel is an 8.5 and they fit just fine. I wish I had the 9.5 to get it to sit a little wider because that's what the M3s and M4s look like they have back there. Good luck brotha. What brand/style of wheels did you buy? I wanna see what they look like. I might go that route, if they're black.
Any issues going to a 265 on 8.5 at high speed pulls and normal handling? I'm debating on 265 and worried lol you on 285!.
Also will discount tire mount 265 on 8.5?
No issues at all, brotha. I had to get new front tires because when I added the 285s, they were nice and meaty. The traction control couldn't act right because my front 255s were worn down. I put new 255s on the front and BAM! This moves like butter up the highway ramp again! I don't have to use the traction button anymore. Punch and go!
And yup, I think discount will mount the 265 on the 8.5" I had a tire shop mount the 275's on because I couldn't get the Pirelli run-flats off at home with my manual tire changer. I don't like run-flats because the sidewalls don't bend. The Petlas were easy to put on because of how flexible they are.
Still cruising on them to this day, but even better than the day I mounted them because I got new front tires, now. They all got meat so the ECU sees them spinning at relatively the same speed.
265 will fit but it wont be the ideal fitment and you will suffer a little bit of conering performance dont do it max you should go is 255 on 8.5 if you care about ideal perfromance honestly oem fitment is kind of ideal most i would go is +10mm comapre to oem tires your much better off buying a high quality and grippier tires.
i'm scared to put 285 on my 9.5's lol. How are these tires I feel like they are on the up and coming right now. Getting ready to pull the trigger on these do you know if they run similar to michelin kind of narrow?
I replaced the front tires with a new set of 255s and now the rear feels a lot more stable. I don't have to use that traction button anymore. The old front tires were triggering the ECU, and now it flies and cruises with no wiggle back there!
285 on 8 inch holy crap how does it handle must not be able to corner well i do alot of tracking my gr supra on oem wheels which are 9 inch front and 10 inch rear and i put 265/35/19 and 285/35/19 +10mm on oem sizing that was max size for my car in terms of laptime performance.
Actually corners perfectly. Has a lot of traction back there...way more grip than before. When I initially put the wheels on, it was squirrely because of the traction control. It was my FRONT TIRES that were balding on the inside (I didn't see it til I took the tires off). I replaced the front tires with fresh meat and the car STUCK like a track car! That was my issue. All wheel drive has to have fresh meat all around or else the ECU will start applying grip when it shouldn't! LOL!
Been riding on them since this video and love the feel. I have no problems at all. And I used to race bikes, so i know how cornering is supposed to feel. This thing GRABS and doesn't slide at all. Traction hits and BAM...off to the races!
It’s all PHYSICS 🛞, Jeff. I had to use physics this morning while I was shopping @ AutoZone. I did my calculations 3X’s in my head 🤔 inside the store & then thought, I’d better go back out to my car & make sure it’s correct on paper ✏️📃. After that, I TRIPLED checked 3 more times b4 I went back into make my purchase. 😁
LMAOOOOOOOOO!! Yup! If you look at my video where I built the supercharger setup on my Jeep, that's 7 days of video! LOL! It took me THAT long, because it had never been done. The setup was built for a 3.6 engine (2020) and I put it on a 2011 engine that was a 3.8.
Yeah, a lot of Ace Hardware and Home Depot runs! LOL!
This car d rove fine - like normal - all the way up to where I decided to break the law and go over 80mph. In order to figure out what the point of elasticity was, I had to break the law first. LOL! As long as you go the speed limit, the car ran like a normal car. But I know how drivers are in Phoenix and nobody drives the speed limit, so you have to be willing to break the law to keep up with traffic. I wanted to make sure this car would do it.
Now, it does. BUT, I have to turn off traction control or else the car is trying to handle itself instead of let ME drive it. I used to use the lane-software in the car, but I turned that off about a month after owning it. It tries to drive itself and the lanes aren't all designed right. Lotta construction makes this car want to switch lanes on its own with the software it uses, so I turned that off. LOL!
Trust me, learning this car has been fun. Fabricating on it will be even MORE fun! There's a guy with a 3 that has a CHEVY V8 engine in it! Crazy horsepower and speed. Small BMW like mine, but sounds like a damn Vette sitting there!
The tires itself, are they pretty good?
Yes. They still look new with all the miles.ithry got.on them. They are quiet, heat up enough to take turns after a few mins of driving, and they stick well on the highway on-ramps and sweeping roads.
I found that out last summer by trial and error...it just doesn't work on my bmw also
Yup. I've seen threads in forums where people say it works - then you never hear from them again. LOL! Hopefully they're ok. I clearly CAN make it work, but it shouldn't be so much effort just to get the car to handle like it's supposed to. You don't buy a BMW to have to finagle with the suspension and traction system just to use the car. If it takes that much, it's not right.
Discount Tire took the wheels and flipped them over. Saw the 8.5" and was like, "...yeah, we can't install these 285s on these wheels...sorry." LOL! They apparently know the outcome! LOL! Folks gonna be like, "...we didn't make it home. We hit the highway and the car fish-tailed into the shoulder." LOL! I swear it felt like I was riding on ice when it got over 80mph.
Now, it's actually manageable up to a high speed, but I don't trust it. These cars speed like they're on a train straight: straight as an arrow. When I felt the rear end shimmy a little, I let off the pedal and was like, "...yeah. I'm good." LOL! I ain't about to test NOTHING. Luckily I do all my test runs at like 3am on empty roads.
Would I be able to run square 255/45/19 on Xdrive m340i? I have the 8in rims all around. Care came with 225 run flats all around. Would really appreciate some advice. My main goal is to have comfortable tires as my car drives so rough through pot holes and bad roads
I have an 8" rim on the front and I run a 255/45/19. Makes the front look more beefy!
@@MicDropBBQ do u think I can run 255/45/19 on the back as well as the front?
@@xcalibur5609 Mine came with that size on the rear. I decided to go with a wider rear, so I went to 275...then I went to 285 and that's where I am now.
Petlas are very good tyre.
Yes! I love how much traction they have back there. Super grip and they are really wide!
@@MicDropBBQ I mean same thing, Also they look very sporty and the wide protect the wheels🙌
Yup. Can't curb check and damage my wheels now. The tires are wide enough! You see it!!
@@MicDropBBQ Yes i see it.
Nice car, nice review and good tyre.
I wish all the best for you🤗
I've been told 255 is the most for that wheel. This is because of tire deflection. And it'll also wear incorrectly.
Plus you lose a lot of cornering performance. I've seen these tested professionally
Been riding on it since this video. I think it actually corners better than when I ran my 275s for a year. I run 255 on the front. I put the 275s on at around 50k miles. Drove it til I had around 90k miles. Had these 285s on since 90k and now at 103k. From me driving with the 255s, then the 275s, and now the 285s, these have much more traction!
And I race motorcycles. CBR100RR and CBR600RR for 4yrs. Road racing, which is nothing but cornering. If anybody knows about cornering, I'd be that guy. I've cornered on ONE wheel before. I know what traction feels like.
@@MicDropBBQ very interesting.
I can feel the difference and I don't think it's better at all. It feels slow to react and I only have 245 on an 8 inch.
I can't imagine what 255 would feel like but I'm just some guy. I don't race so what do I know.
What tire pressure were u at with those 285's...?
I'm running em at around 42psi. By the time they heat up, I'm around 45psi. I keep em under 50. Been running lik that since this video came out with ZERO issues at all. I say that because some internet idiot will be thinking this video is one day old and not realize I've been running these tires problem-free since day one. Always an idiot out there: "...you can't do that! It's not gonna work!", only to find out it's been working just fine the whole time. LOL!
@@MicDropBBQ u ain't lying bout the internet trolls.. lol
Appreciate the response 👍🏼
@l.a7932 Man, they don't even bother to get the real! They wake up and drink Hatorade and have a Bullshit biscuit with cheese. Haha
Will a 285/30/19 fit a rim 19x9 25 offset
Yes. I'm running a 285 on 8.5" wheels. The 9" will make the tires fit better.
@@MicDropBBQ thank you! Wasn’t sure if it would work. No shop wants to put them on because of liability issues, after seeing this video definitely makes sense now. I’ll have to find a way to throw them on myself
My big concern is how they do whenever you’re loaded with lots of big people and lots of luggage. Do use this car for Uber or Lyft?
Did you watch the video? If so, you'll answer your questions and you'll see exactly how the tires handle now. I think you watched the first 3mins and came up with an opinion. LOL! You've gotta watch the whole thing.
Let's just say there's no concern with my car. My concern is someone who's not as mechanically sound as me trying to do it - then thinking because I did it, they can to. I also added a Gladiator supercharger to a Wrangler engine - and I don't recommend it. It took me 7 days, but I've been driving it for almost 2yrs now. Just because I do something, I don't recommend it. I know how to make things work, but not everyone is like that.
Someone will throw these 285s on an 8.5" wheel and spin outta control. I know they will. I've done things on all 9 of my motorcycles that I don't recommend others doing, because I know my limits and capabilities, and most people are "plug n play" mentality.
I don't recommend anyone doing what I did, and if anyone ever says, "...well, I saw a guy online do it, so I did it...", they can also follow that up with, "...but he didn't recommend anyone else do it."
I'm real about it. This is not a stock setup and not even close to plug-n-play. It takes mechanical knowledge to do most of the things I do in my garage. I also run a 310 rear wheel on a bike designed for a 240 wheel. Yes, I built the setup and have been riding it like that since 2018. I don't recommend anyone else do it, so I didn't even put the schematic for the build online.
When people see the bike, they ask me how I did it. I tell em, but I never show em, because I don't want them to try and end up killing themselves doing engineering that's not plug-n-play.
I laughed when you said "lots of big people and lots of luggage." You CLEARLY haven't seen my videos where I say I cancel people all the time for that. I have a 2019 BMW, not a Suburban. LOL! If you watched my videos, you'd laugh at yourself for saying that to me. You apparently don't know me that well. LOL! That was FUNNY!
@@MicDropBBQ
No worries bro, I often ask questions as the video is going along because I might forget the question if I don’t and it makes for a good conversation. Case in point, our conversation. Yeah I run a minivan just so I can carry big luggage and big people. I did finish the video on about the tires but I was curious if they rubbed if you had a lot of weight. I’d like to put slightly larger tires on my minivan but I’m not sure if they would rub it and how it would affect the handling in the Uber inspection here in California. I could use an extra three or 4 inches altitude but I’m restricted in what I can do to attain it.
@SB Rides 805 You can always do a 2" leveling kit (if they make one for the van) then add 65 series tires to put some distance under it. The struts have a stopping point that usually prevents them from bottoming out under Wright.
Also, they have frame stops to keep the frame from touching the body, and that helps the tires clear when turning and under loads.
The Jeep is literally a suspension work of art! Lol! The work I've done to that is hard to explain, but I do my best to make it make sense. Springs and shocks, plus bump stops.
I've seem vans become overland vehicles with the right control arms and suspension setup. They do certain trails like Jeeps.
For your rear suspension, you may just need springs that are another inch or two taller, and that will keep it from bottoming out under load. That's why my Jeep is 3" in front and 4" in rear. Under load, it doesn't sag.
Ur car is M.package ?
Yup. Bought it like that. Someone apparently ordered it to be upgraded, and I don't mind at all!
Can I add 265 tire on 8.5?
That's an easy fit. Yes you can do 265s. I had 255's on the 8.5 wheel when I bought the car. I went up to 275 and they did fine. Added these 285s and now feel a lot better driving on them now!