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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2015
  • Is Jon Snow really dead? Or will he return in Game of Thrones Season 6? Some theories suggest that Jon will be resurrected...
    This video contains major spoilers for Book 5 / Season 5. If you've read Book 5 or seen Season 5, you can watch this video without having anything significant spoiled. Book-purists beware - this video contains reference to stuff that happens in the show but not the books.
    This video also contains images of death and violence.
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  • @derekmann8239
    @derekmann8239 7 лет назад +2748

    "Ned gets beheaded, Robb gets Red Wedded"
    Fantastic.

  • @mormontsraven4072
    @mormontsraven4072 2 года назад +933

    It has been 10 years, and Jon Snow is still lying dead on the blood-stained snow.

    • @derrickmiles2153
      @derrickmiles2153 Год назад +14

      fr cant believe D&D did this to us

    • @mr.cookie4498
      @mr.cookie4498 Год назад +53

      ​@@derrickmiles2153 he means the end of a dance with dragons (the last published book)

    • @00mimir
      @00mimir Год назад +27

      It’s sad that your commentary is already one year old, and we don’t have the book yet.

    • @SpaceViking2000
      @SpaceViking2000 Год назад +5

      I recently started watching. Currently on Book 3. Your post made me sad lol.

    • @calebesagaz5226
      @calebesagaz5226 8 месяцев назад +3

      *They kind of forgot about Jon's body.*

  • @sebastianholden4759
    @sebastianholden4759 3 года назад +1563

    Alt X five years ago: The next book is going to be a hell of a read”
    2021: the next book is going to be be a hell of a read”

    • @Jermrants
      @Jermrants Год назад +44

      @@southnoon5808 September 2022 Ep 3 house of dragon has recently come out: this book is gonna be one hell of a read

    • @akshaysinghrai
      @akshaysinghrai Год назад +22

      The road to the next book is hell.

    • @thepredator9002
      @thepredator9002 Год назад +5

      @@Jermrants bruh season has almost ended an it will still be a hell of a read

    • @awf718
      @awf718 Год назад +12

      2023 and counting

    • @uniguy2126
      @uniguy2126 Год назад +22

      2023: The next book is gonna be a hell of a read

  • @justmauricio1
    @justmauricio1 5 лет назад +2670

    "Surely you don't have a standoff like this and not have it pay off later on"
    Season 8 ; It doesn't pay off.

  • @kemnang
    @kemnang 5 лет назад +1892

    "Surely we don't have an awesome stand-off like this without a pay-off later on"

  • @gvnvcbs7150
    @gvnvcbs7150 5 лет назад +998

    Maybe D&D should've watched Alt Shift X videos before writing the scenario for season 8 episode 3...

    • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
      @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 3 года назад +61

      bUt SuBvErTiNg ExPeCtAtIoNs

    • @JC-ez6nf
      @JC-ez6nf 3 года назад +5

      Yep, and Preston Jacobs, the last harpy, Bridge4 and so on and so on. Hopefully HBO will do what they're doing to justice league and flesh it out and re tell the last 2 season.

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna 3 года назад +11

      @@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 If by subverting expectations, they mean throwing out all foreshadowing and prophecy to make something happen that fulfills none of it (not even fulfilling it in a unexpected way), then yes.

    • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
      @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 3 года назад +2

      @@thewerdna I highly doubt there was much thought involved there

    • @Shak2k11
      @Shak2k11 Год назад +2

      they should've watched any theory videos instead of doing what they did. But writers are too high and mighty and hate theory videos even if people's theories have more thought to the narrative, characters, themes, structure, development than the actual "professionals"

  • @cometopapadragon
    @cometopapadragon 5 лет назад +548

    2:43 yea no pay off, arya teleports and 1 taps the night king.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 4 года назад +22

      I know it was so fucking stupid. So unfortunate.

    • @totalcomputerdependency
      @totalcomputerdependency 2 года назад

      I call hax

    • @Shak2k11
      @Shak2k11 Год назад +2

      good job Night King foiled by a little girl who was literally screaming during her sneak attack and then stabbed because you have such slow shitty reactions, honestly can he do anything besides follow things with his eyes and walk at a snails pace?

  • @deusredeemer
    @deusredeemer 8 лет назад +399

    Jons Resurrection and the confirmation of his identity would be a very cool redemption for lady Stonehearts arch .... learning that Ned never cheated on her could redeem her character and she could rest in peace at last

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 Год назад +13

      What she needs for that is to find out that at least one of her children are alive.
      I think that Arya and her wolf's wolf pack will defeat the Brothers after learning that Sansa is alive, and make peace with her mother before killing her.

    • @alexcoffey8804
      @alexcoffey8804 10 месяцев назад +6

      I think she'll give her life to resurrect him the same way Beric gave his to save her's.
      It'd be Cat's ultimate redemption.

  • @petesematary
    @petesematary 9 лет назад +1370

    I, for one, welcome our ice demon overlords.

    • @AltShiftX
      @AltShiftX  9 лет назад +53

      +Abbie Sadler Someone got the reference (:

    • @dracognia
      @dracognia 9 лет назад +10

      Alt Shift X "I’d like to remind them that as a well-read GoT fanboy, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their ever-growing army of the dead.”

    • @tubesaber1316
      @tubesaber1316 9 лет назад +3

      Abbie Sadler One of my favorite comedies mixed with one of my favorite dramas.

    • @PawFace1020
      @PawFace1020 9 лет назад +6

      Alt Shift X Do the Maester Conspiracy and the Weirwood Conspiracy! Please!

    • @Elround4
      @Elround4 9 лет назад

      Abbie Sadler I'd only do so if they helped me become a lich. ; )

  • @MinuteLeech2
    @MinuteLeech2 9 лет назад +933

    I have to respect how well you back your theories with evidence from the text, must take alot of research to locate alot of vague hints.

    • @teslaformens
      @teslaformens 9 лет назад +74

      EvilSCIENTIST this is why i salute this guy

    • @lisamarieschnee
      @lisamarieschnee 9 лет назад +6

      EvilSCIENTIST So much theories and everything could be false. Only GRRM knows.

    • @cvs_en
      @cvs_en 9 лет назад +30

      Krydda Why are you even here?

    • @zacharyharris469
      @zacharyharris469 9 лет назад +2

      A lot*

    • @rdecredico
      @rdecredico 9 лет назад

      EvilSCIENTIST Hypothesis pr perhaps speculation.
      Theory means what has been established and considered to be true with supporting evidence.

  • @saralshrestha8249
    @saralshrestha8249 5 лет назад +249

    "Surely you don't have an awesome standoff life this without payoff" That's exactly what happened, :(

  • @Adamatronamus
    @Adamatronamus 8 лет назад +597

    I think the other guy was lying down over him, so it wasn't Jon the zombies were eating. I think he'll survive by hiding under a dumpster.

  • @jackr2290
    @jackr2290 9 лет назад +427

    Your GoT theory videos are unrivaled man, you've literally confirmed his return in my head.

    • @coachcro7722
      @coachcro7722 9 лет назад +19

      Jack R This is not new, and certainly not his theory. But he makes EXCELLENT videos. The dude is awesome can't wait for his next vid

    • @jackr2290
      @jackr2290 9 лет назад +31

      Cc Cro
      I never said it was new or his theory dude.

    • @stuckupcurlyguy
      @stuckupcurlyguy 9 лет назад +7

      Jack R This is so true, he gets the absolute spot-on quotes from each book and arranges them visually so we can see both sides of the theories. Alt Shift X has a brain as sharp as a jacknife.

    • @jackr2290
      @jackr2290 8 лет назад

      *****
      Yeah man he also produces very good videos.

    • @saturatedneowax
      @saturatedneowax 8 лет назад +1

      +Jack R r+l=j cunfirmd

  • @dreyk.4000
    @dreyk.4000 9 лет назад +788

    I like Jon killing Mel to make Lightbringer.

    • @sophiecowan7713
      @sophiecowan7713 9 лет назад +76

      Justice for sweet shireen would be served

    • @TheBri656
      @TheBri656 9 лет назад +2

      Drey K. Doesnt he have to put it in water and a lion too? maybe stabs it into Ghost. or is that just the process from the story?

    • @dreyk.4000
      @dreyk.4000 9 лет назад +12

      It'd be even crazier if Mel turns out to be Bloodraven's daughter. A Targ killing a Targ to forge the blade of fire. This...I like this...

    • @BoopBoop508
      @BoopBoop508 9 лет назад +15

      Jorah mormont is the true prince that was promise he is azor ahai reborn he is a song of ice and fire

    • @cachedelete
      @cachedelete 9 лет назад +38

      Logan Calkins no fuck off

  • @widego2
    @widego2 5 лет назад +96

    2:43 "Surely you don't have an awesome standoff like this without a payoff later on". Aaaaaaaaaaand season 8 ep 3 happened.. sigh..

  • @sealstorm1935
    @sealstorm1935 8 лет назад +234

    "I've been worrying about Jon for years, he always comes back" - Samuel Tarly

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 6 лет назад +22

      SealStorm193 *Samwell

    • @faisalkamal4319
      @faisalkamal4319 Год назад +4

      Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in

  • @Ahntara123
    @Ahntara123 8 лет назад +554

    But wait. All the six times Thyros resurrected Beric, there was no king's blood. Why would it be necessary for Melisandre to have king's blood?

    • @AntoineDennison
      @AntoineDennison 8 лет назад +93

      +Ahntara123 Kings Blood is necessary for environmental impacts. But the subject of a resurrection doesn't necessarily need to have King's Blood.

    • @piyush0320003
      @piyush0320003 8 лет назад +58

      +Ahntara123 Fulfillment of Azor Ahai prophecy!

    • @Ahntara123
      @Ahntara123 8 лет назад +29

    • @piyush0320003
      @piyush0320003 8 лет назад +8

      Hi dear.Azor Ahai and Jon snow connection is completely different from beric resurrection.To undersyand more abt the connection you need to know the history of Azor Ahai.Azor existed thousands of years back and played a crucial role in saving the world.Now if you need to exactly know why jon snow and azor are being talked in the same breadth you need to get spoiled somewhat which I think should not be a problem if u have seen the show.Let me know!

    • @Ahntara123
      @Ahntara123 8 лет назад +9

      I get that there is a connection and I also think that Jon is Azor Ahai, or part of him (possibly one of the 3). What I'm not clear on is why people say king's blood is needed when there are have been multiple resurrections without it. Just seems to me that the people who say this are reaching and making assumptions.

  • @dezodoe79
    @dezodoe79 8 лет назад +496

    I always thought Star Wars and StarTrek freaks were weird. Yet here I am watching theoretical Game of Thrones videos. Now I am one of those freaks.

    • @Chenrandyliu
      @Chenrandyliu 8 лет назад +19

      +spm429 geek would be the correct choice of word

    • @dezodoe79
      @dezodoe79 8 лет назад +11

      +Chen Liu "Geek". My apologies. I'm new to this world.

    • @okaymckay
      @okaymckay 8 лет назад +29

      bro, nothing to be ashamed of, besides, got is so much better than star wars

    • @L4nd0C4lr1s14n
      @L4nd0C4lr1s14n 7 лет назад +3

      They both have strong points.That being said I never bought a replica lightsaber, but I did get a friend the Jaime Lannister sword.

    • @ShaggyDabbyDank
      @ShaggyDabbyDank 3 года назад +3

      @@okaymckay It really wouldnt be fair to compare the two. One is a sci-fi epic, the other is an intense fantasy with political discourse. They're trying to do different things.

  • @therandomer6261
    @therandomer6261 5 лет назад +62

    "surely you don't have an awesome standoff like this without a payoff later on". Well about that...

  • @josedg6389
    @josedg6389 8 лет назад +43

    "Jon always comes back" - Samwell Tarly

  • @pisser98
    @pisser98 9 лет назад +101

    ah damn...now i feel really pressured into reading all the books

    • @2000multipablo
      @2000multipablo 9 лет назад +9

      a_wandering_silhouette I've already started. Finished the first and on pg 267 on the second… DO IT!!!

    • @blockyorbits2376
      @blockyorbits2376 9 лет назад +15

      paul bulimar Just DO IT!
      - Shia

    • @UrbanZervR
      @UrbanZervR 9 лет назад

      I bought the first two 3 months ago and only on 182 of the first one.. it's hard to get into it

    • @2000multipablo
      @2000multipablo 9 лет назад +4

      XE Obzeh [Aspect Co] Yeah it's hard since you already basically watched everything. But in book 2 it really is getting different.

    • @pisser98
      @pisser98 9 лет назад +2

      XE Obzeh [Aspect Co] same here. i pretty much read all of book 1 and it is tiresome, since the first season kept very close to the first book

  • @pipopipi
    @pipopipi 9 лет назад +51

    In the show, Jon's last word was "olly". So I'm 103% sure that he's going to warg into Olly.

  • @damianodidomenico4756
    @damianodidomenico4756 3 года назад +20

    "The next book is gonna be a helluva read"
    Yea, about that

  • @anthonykf99
    @anthonykf99 8 лет назад +550

    What if Jon isn't resurrected and the story just focuses on the crippled tree boy?

    • @thelastmethbender
      @thelastmethbender 8 лет назад +12

      +raging flame I did. Because of the visions. It made it look like he was some prophecied kid or something. Since he is just a kid, he won't really have any political influence. He won't be a warrior. Why would he seek out a god-like figure beyond the wall? I think he will be the big hero of this story tbh. I think bran wasn't in season 5 because his destiny would be a far greater one, to great to reveal it just yet. I think he will be the one to defeat the White walkers, by utilizing his powers. When Jon snow stated that even after having joined forces with the Wildlings, chance of victory would not be certain. After the huge massacre, you can imagine that this chance significantly decreased. That's where bran comes in. I think.

    • @Zajin13
      @Zajin13 8 лет назад +28

      +The Last Methbender And i think Hodor will rule Westeros.

    • @TheSunsetsuicide
      @TheSunsetsuicide 8 лет назад +16

      I think Hodor is actually a Clegane but was abused at a young age by the two brothers. Hence the speech impediment and moments of distress.
      Also explains his large size, the brothers never mention him because they assume he died during a beating.
      *places foil hat on head*

    • @williamdrouin8063
      @williamdrouin8063 6 лет назад +4

      There is a certain pattern in asoiaf, the strong dies and the seemingly weak prevails

    • @hamzahsajjad7952
      @hamzahsajjad7952 5 лет назад +62

      Three years later and the cripple tree is king

  • @xelaworrierprincess7166
    @xelaworrierprincess7166 9 лет назад +155

    Fucking hell! I watch other GoT videos but Jesus yours far surpass anything else out there. Thank you for spending so much time on them, they're awesome.

    • @okanhinisli8993
      @okanhinisli8993 9 лет назад +31

      agreed . He is the best

    • @paultokjian7915
      @paultokjian7915 9 лет назад +4

      mijikai His voice sounds like that of a Maester lol

    • @mehmetalperkaya1830
      @mehmetalperkaya1830 9 лет назад

      okan hınıslı bir bodyciyi buralarda görmek ne büyük mutluluk

    • @okanhinisli8993
      @okanhinisli8993 9 лет назад

      Mehmet Alper Kaya :)

    • @rastiga9196
      @rastiga9196 9 лет назад

      mijikai So you believe Jon Snow is the new coming of Jesus. Halaluha. JK, he does do mostly awesome.

  • @Hasdfgh12321
    @Hasdfgh12321 9 лет назад +85

    in an interview George said : "there people have already guessed the secret that i'm gonna reveal in books 6 and book 2 is just out"
    Now tell me he's not talking about R+L=J

    • @007NowOnline
      @007NowOnline 9 лет назад

      Saudi gucci what does he mean by "book 2 is just out"? Book 2 has been out for many years.

    • @TheThoerlChannel
      @TheThoerlChannel 9 лет назад +2

      Teal'c He never said when this interview was conducted ;-)

    • @ZadeHub
      @ZadeHub 9 лет назад +11

      Teal'c The interview was likely just after Book 2 was released.

    • @007NowOnline
      @007NowOnline 9 лет назад

      lukazade101 Say Whaa!!..., They must be psychic to be able to predict whats in book 6 with only book 2 being out at the time.

    • @TheThoerlChannel
      @TheThoerlChannel 9 лет назад +13

      Teal'c R+L=J is in its basis pretty much completely based on hints from the first book.

  • @larllarfleton
    @larllarfleton Год назад +75

    Honestly in retrospect, it shouldve been 1. John is resurrected by the lord of light because he the real Azor Ahai, and thats because 2. He is the only person left in Westeros who a. Has a legitimate claim to the throne and b. Would actually be accepted as king by the North, re-uniting the 7 kingdoms and thus being able to field a united Westerosi Army against the Night King. That would've made the most sense. So much wasted potential.

    • @codman123
      @codman123 Год назад

      Yes but what about the westerlands

    • @venuskllix1066
      @venuskllix1066 Год назад

      @@codman123 Sansa's marriage with Tyrion? The Westerlands and Dorne won't bend the knee but can't fight neither.

    • @codman123
      @codman123 Год назад +1

      @@venuskllix1066 yes but what will happen about dany and tyrions marriage with sansa was forced and sansa might make tyrion look bad

  • @Wattsnic000
    @Wattsnic000 8 лет назад +146

    Season 7 premiere Jon comes out from under the dumpster he slid under in the finale

    • @J0J02007
      @J0J02007 8 лет назад +3

      +Nicholas Brown LOL Wonder how many others got that. I knew Glenn wasn't dead, just by how it was done. :)

    • @lordeddardstark1621
      @lordeddardstark1621 8 лет назад

      +Nicholas Brown guess you haven't seen the latest episode then...

    • @Maplelust
      @Maplelust 4 года назад

      lmao. good one.

  • @Naralissa1009
    @Naralissa1009 9 лет назад +150

    I really want Jon will be the Azor Ahai of GOT , but damn .. i have see so much theory about that , if is not true i well be very sad :(. GIVE ME BACK JON FKING SNOW PLS RR .

    • @007NowOnline
      @007NowOnline 9 лет назад +11

      As De Pique Indeed. This video and other people connecting the dots have filled me with hope of seeing Jon Snow return.... if he doesn't it'll be a huge let down, and confuse me because the dots have already been connected in a logical way.

    • @lisamarieschnee
      @lisamarieschnee 9 лет назад

      As De Pique I will be very happy if all those theories are not true because then i won't know what is coming for me and its even more entertaining.

    • @007NowOnline
      @007NowOnline 9 лет назад +1

      Krydda If you didn't watch this video you wouldn't have known about the theory and would've been surprised if it turns out to be the case. LOL. :P

    • @lisamarieschnee
      @lisamarieschnee 9 лет назад +1

      Teal'c Nah, i've read from this theory on reddit after the last book was released 2012. its just annoying that the mainstream now floods the internet with tinfoil theories with no backup and think that GRRM books are so predictable.

    • @007NowOnline
      @007NowOnline 9 лет назад +3

      Krydda Uhh,.."with no back up".... LOL, whats your definition of back up?. .....I'd say the "back up" this youtube vid has is quotes from the books and show which points the story in this direction.
      And no, I've never gotten the impression from anyone that thinks GRRM's stories are predictable. No one is simply saying he will rise from the dead... they are pointing out context clues to show you one possible direction this story might be heading towards.
      They asked a question, did background research and constructed a hypothesis from the information gathered. ..... All they're saying is he still is a candidate for Azor ahai based on current information.

  • @MortigaDawn
    @MortigaDawn 8 лет назад +21

    1:43 "Bran is forgotten, beyond the Wall, becoming a psychic tree boy or something."
    Nailed it.

  • @MrJethroha
    @MrJethroha 8 лет назад +24

    plot twist: Jon wargs into Hodor at the last moment and conquers the south with Bran and that tree fella

  • @Immortalis7771
    @Immortalis7771 8 лет назад +57

    I can't wait to see Ollie's face when Jon comes back.

    • @bartledoo9
      @bartledoo9 2 года назад +6

      they literally show you his face after he was hung like the writer saw your comment

  • @ChinaMo
    @ChinaMo 8 лет назад +256

    I would really be interested in a video explaining the significance of Jon, Bran, and Arya being worgs, since it seems to be so rare a thing to be. But two siblings and a cousin? Yeah. Great videos so far--thanks for that!

    • @AltShiftX
      @AltShiftX  8 лет назад +59

      +ChinaMo Cheers! Yeah it'd be cool to do a video on warging some time...

    • @shadowreturn5647
      @shadowreturn5647 8 лет назад +2

      +Alt Shift X Good job man, Good job, great videos, all the time!!!

    • @SportsSpeak73
      @SportsSpeak73 8 лет назад +37

      GRRM is actually on record as saying ALL the Stark children are/were wargs so very rare indeed.

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 8 лет назад +19

      +SportsSpeak73 that would make sense. Rickon's warging is never noted because he was so young that his warging was more symbiotic and Shaggydog just acted impulsively like a 6 year old.

    • @SportsSpeak73
      @SportsSpeak73 8 лет назад +3

      yeah, Rickon's is implied in the sense that his wolf routinely mirrors Rickons mood, but its never stated that he has "wolf dreams".

  • @somerandomguy6598
    @somerandomguy6598 9 лет назад +27

    So Jon's last word in the book is Ghost, and he's definitely going to warg into Ghost upon death.
    Jon's last word in the show is Olly. Jon wargs into Olly confirmed?

  • @istrychalski
    @istrychalski 8 лет назад +33

    Awesome breakdown of the theory! I'd like to add that....
    Shireen's dreams of being "eaten by a dragon" support the theory of her being sacrificed to bring Jon back (which would also be a helluva better reason than the TV show gave).
    Also, I don't know if you mentioned this, but "wake dragons from stone"= "wake Targaryens from the greyscale carrier"?
    :)

  • @Spiderdudu83
    @Spiderdudu83 7 лет назад +44

    Do you think that being ressurected in the books could turn Jons hair white, like it happened with Catelyn? It would fit, if he embraces also his Targaryen heritage afterwards.

    • @Arya_25
      @Arya_25 5 месяцев назад

      But eye color remains the same 🤔

  • @Panyc333
    @Panyc333 9 лет назад +270

    I got a crackpot theory.
    What if "A song of ice and fire" is an actual song, written by Rhaegar to Lyanna expressing his love for her and their child she carries. If this document where ever discovered, it could be one link to revealing R+L=J.

    • @IrchaMan
      @IrchaMan 9 лет назад +15

      Matt Something Dude, I like this! :D

    • @Avi-rl6qb
      @Avi-rl6qb 9 лет назад +8

      Matt Something I like this theory.

    • @TheToemeister
      @TheToemeister 9 лет назад +4

      Matt Something RUclips comment theories are usually really dumb, but I like this one.

    • @quadassio
      @quadassio 9 лет назад +17

      Matt Something Stay off the crack Matt.

    • @valence_electronica
      @valence_electronica 9 лет назад +10

      Nice copy and paste from reddit...

  • @dariusshams962
    @dariusshams962 8 лет назад +80

    The bastard of winterfell is back, guess bastard bowl will happen after all. Ramsay vs Jon XD

    • @trickstergaming5293
      @trickstergaming5293 8 лет назад +16

      IT HAPPENED !! :D

    • @MinnaMe01
      @MinnaMe01 8 лет назад +16

      AND IT WAS GLORIOUS!!!!

    • @heavysaber9431
      @heavysaber9431 7 лет назад +8

      NEXT STOP: CLEGANEBOWL!!!

    • @dariusshams962
      @dariusshams962 7 лет назад +1

      Rift31 yeah he's going up north now, it doesn't make any sense considering the hound barley changed at all, so fighting for the faith would be pointless.

  • @zanvoy6848
    @zanvoy6848 5 лет назад +16

    2:38
    oh sweet summer child.

  • @JoeParrish
    @JoeParrish 8 лет назад +51

    All the greatest heroes have to die in some way in order to become the best version of themselves: Gandalf, Harry Potter, Aslan, Jesus, Odin, Osiris, the Greek heroes having to pass through the underworld. I think Jon will become the most important character following this rite of passage or "katabasis".

  • @suemeejim715
    @suemeejim715 9 лет назад +143

    Could you make a video and explore the possibility of an Ice Dragon beyond the wall. As you said Mellisandra said that her magic was stronger at the wall and it is known that dragons amplify magical powers so could an ice dragon be beyond the wall? Possibly with the white walkers.

    • @tabarakiqbal4756
      @tabarakiqbal4756 9 лет назад

      suemeejim715 The wall is next to the shivering sea, this is where In the latest book of A world of song of ice the ice dragons are stated to have lived around. good point though.

    • @Radiotomb
      @Radiotomb 9 лет назад +50

      In "The Ice Dragon", GRRM states that ice dragons are larger and more powerful than fire breathing dragons. Whatever they touch instantly freezes and never thaws.
      I like the idea of ice dragons lining up, and the air freezes around them, forming into a 700 ft tall Wall of ice.
      GRRM already said that there is magic keeping the wall standing. Either way, it's going to come down in book 6.
      What better way to bring it down then by watching ice dragons burst out from inside.

    • @suemeejim715
      @suemeejim715 9 лет назад

      Radiotomb True, but I thought that books setting was different not in the ASOIAF world.

    • @Playboyshamable
      @Playboyshamable 9 лет назад +10

      OMG what if... The wall was this huge back and torsal of a huge ice dragon ;o
      And suddenly it awakens and he stands up from his sleep, destroying the wall (because he's the wall) and *crazy thoughts*

    • @erikm6689
      @erikm6689 9 лет назад +33

      suemeejim715 A theory I like suggests there's an Ice dragon trapped in the wall. It IS the magic keeping it standing and it is the reason it seems as though it breathes and lives (the wall). As stated by Jon or Sam can't remember who. It would explain a lot. And seeing as these magical horns control dragons and the Horn of Johramun (however it's spelled) is said to bring down the wall. May be what wakes the dragon from its slumber and brings the wall down. Also the fact that Melissanda's magic is stranger at the wall may hint that there is a dragon in the wall, as dragons amplify magic exponentially. :) but It's only a theory.

  • @sofiaa1616
    @sofiaa1616 9 лет назад +105

    Actually, in both books and show there is another potential alternative to the use of king's blood to resurrect Jon: Melisandre herself. If you believe the theory that Bloodraven + Shiera Seastar = Melony/Melisandre, then Mel DEFINITELY has kingsblood. Moreover, that would also tie into the "bleeding star" portion of the Azor Ahai prophecy, especially if her surname is Seastar like her mother. Melisandre is the Red Star.
    Also, do you think "Jon" is even his real birth name? GRRM has said that "Jon" is the name Ned gave him. I heard a cool theory on Radio Westeros that his real name is Aemon Targaryen.

    • @nickkoch3467
      @nickkoch3467 9 лет назад

      What

    • @sofiaa1616
      @sofiaa1616 9 лет назад

      nick koch
      Yes?

    • @definitelynotryan2711
      @definitelynotryan2711 9 лет назад +2

      Sofia Alarcon Wow, that's actually interesting. Who could tell Jon his real name though? And is Jon like an acronym for his real name? So much cliffhangers, a man needs S06 and/or The Winds of Winter!

    • @sofiaa1616
      @sofiaa1616 9 лет назад +23

      ***** There's no direct evidence for what Jon's real name is, but we can speculate on it based on what could possibly be literary references and symbolism here and there. I would go into it here, but I don't think I could explain it half as well as Radio Westeros did. So I recommend you go to their site and check out their episode on Jon Snow, as well as their other episodes, because they are awesome.
      As for why Ned chose the name "Jon", it's likely that he named him after Jon Arryn. It could have symbolic meaning to him. This is from Reddit:
      "Ned's relationship to Arryn parallels the relationship he feels with Snow. Jon Arryn raised Ned like a son even though he was not. Furthermore, when the king (Aerys) called for Ned's head, Lord Arryn raised his banners in rebellion and defied the king to save him. No doubt Ned is defying Robert by hiding the Targaryen's claim to the throne."

    • @definitelynotryan2711
      @definitelynotryan2711 9 лет назад

      Sofia Alarcon Thanks! I'll check them out (:

  • @Flame1500
    @Flame1500 2 года назад +6

    2015: "The next book is gonna be a helluva read"
    2022: ....please... it's been 11 years...

  • @dominikhajek1910
    @dominikhajek1910 8 лет назад +17

    "There would be a second life worthy of a king." Yup.

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz 9 лет назад +120

    R+L = Jesus?

    • @2000multipablo
      @2000multipablo 9 лет назад +26

      Nick Sibilla IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!! ALT SHIFT HAS DONE IT!!!!!

    • @NickSibz
      @NickSibz 9 лет назад

      paul bulimar lmao

    • @akrybion
      @akrybion 9 лет назад +3

      Nick Sibilla So.. R= God? The Mad King= Father of God -> mind=blown!

    • @UrbanZervR
      @UrbanZervR 9 лет назад +1

      akrybion the devil is God's dad?!

    • @akrybion
      @akrybion 9 лет назад +5

      XE Obzeh [Aspect Co] Martin is so awesome- he adds twists to the Bible!

  • @WyrmrestAccord
    @WyrmrestAccord 5 лет назад +10

    D & D: We kinda forgot we had an awesome standoff like this so we used Arya insted.

  • @vinaykvl
    @vinaykvl 8 лет назад +124

    Any one here coming back after today's "Home" episode.... Alt Shift X... you rock

    • @karlstone297
      @karlstone297 8 лет назад

      +vinay koti Yea

    • @Darkolop
      @Darkolop 8 лет назад +5

      He fucking predicted the twist of this episode 10 months ago. Fucking wizard

    • @wingeyes
      @wingeyes 8 лет назад +6

      +Alex A a lot of fans predicted it. No way they would build him up without him knowing his true origins

    • @errohanable
      @errohanable 8 лет назад

      yeah mee

    • @Kaaxe
      @Kaaxe 8 лет назад +3

      +vinay koti It was predictable, but there was no winning this as it would perhaps been more upsetting if he didn't come back, but I do wish Melisandres ritual wasn't so underwhelming.

  • @Chaos8282
    @Chaos8282 8 лет назад +119

    This video ties it all together perfectly man. You one of the writers leaking spoilers under an assumed name? XD
    Either way you have a new sub.

    • @AltShiftX
      @AltShiftX  8 лет назад +29

      +Chaos8282 Cheers mate!

    • @rowknan9848
      @rowknan9848 8 лет назад

      +Alt Shift X I didn't hear a denial... Plus for the third part of your theory could it be possible that due to the extreme power of John's transference to Ghost that he is able to directly interact with Bran to the point of having a verbal conversation?

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows 9 лет назад +31

    Wait, has Thoros ever had to "pay" for resurrecting Beric Dondarrion? If I remember correctly, all he's ever done was use the prayer and he's been able to resurrect Dondarrion a bunch of times.

    • @TheBandy98
      @TheBandy98 9 лет назад +1

      Beric was resurrected immediately after he died though.

    • @2000multipablo
      @2000multipablo 9 лет назад +20

      ***** Maybe Theon should get an appointment with one of these red priests...

    • @akrybion
      @akrybion 9 лет назад +6

      paul bulimar Only death can pay for sex?

    • @2000multipablo
      @2000multipablo 9 лет назад

      akrybion Haha. Worth it.

    • @OlDurtyGurty
      @OlDurtyGurty 9 лет назад +1

      ***** I think it did take a lot out of Thoros to do that. In Mel's chapter we see how much of a toll her magic is taking on her but she does her best to hide it.

  • @xXSinForLifeXx
    @xXSinForLifeXx 8 лет назад +13

    I love the moments Mellisandra realises that Snow is the chosen one not stannis her face says it all priceless

  • @Christopherjazzcat
    @Christopherjazzcat 5 лет назад +15

    You were on the money with this one dude

    • @tryptamind6839
      @tryptamind6839 5 лет назад +1

      Not only was he right about the stuff that has already happened, but I also think he is right about other parts of the video that haven't even happened yet on the show.
      For example, just like he said in this video, I have always been convinced that at the end, Jon is going to plunge his sword into Melisandre and it will create Lightbringer. After all, she already confirmed in her last scene that she "has to die in this strange place" or something like that when she spoke with Varys. My guess is she knows that she must sacrifice herself to him. Not to mention, when Jon found out about Shireen's death, he told Mel to leave and if he sees her again then he will kill her. That seems to be foreshadowing...

  • @howardho7783
    @howardho7783 7 лет назад +10

    I'm rereading the series and have noticed that on more than one occasion it seems like Commander Mormont's bird says "king" while looking at Jon or when Jon walks into a room.

  • @UncontainablePickle-_420
    @UncontainablePickle-_420 9 лет назад +132

    Jon is Jesus J = J. AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mshamamci
      @mshamamci 9 лет назад +2

      UncontainablePickle died reading this

    • @UncontainablePickle-_420
      @UncontainablePickle-_420 9 лет назад +2

      ***** Oh and Daenerys would be Moses... She did lead her people through a sea...

    • @Elround4
      @Elround4 9 лет назад

      UncontainablePickle All praise the polytheistic snow Jesus, savor of the humanity, slayer of ice demons. *:* D Now then, what does this make Bran?
      P.S. He still counts as "polytheistic" because a) he is actually polytheistic and b) one could argue using his warging powers and getting those visions is a boon/blessing given by the Old Gods. ; )

    • @Elround4
      @Elround4 9 лет назад +2

      UncontainablePickle Whose the Buddha of GOT? I'd place my bet on Brynden Rivers/the Three eyed crow/raven (e.g. he achieves enlightenment under a tree).

    • @FinestSeven
      @FinestSeven 9 лет назад +1

      UncontainablePickle GET HYPE

  • @PhantomZephyrV
    @PhantomZephyrV 8 лет назад +21

    Imagine Jon resurrected with silver Targaryen hair. That would be awesome.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Год назад +1

      And gaining a pair of red eyes, making him a spit image of BloodRaven!

  • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
    @BlueisNotaWarmColour 8 лет назад +4

    These videos are amazing. Not only do you succinctly make your points with great visual aids but you back your shit up with citations. Not only that but your ideas about how things can go are just... good. I hope most of these theories come true.

  • @BasLindo
    @BasLindo 8 лет назад +49

    How has nobody pointed out that Melisandre burns Shireen "to clear the snow" - clear the Snow perhaps?
    I say R'hllor intended for her to burn Shireen in order for the fire to melt the Snow. leaving Jon Targaryen. I say she doesn't actively resurrect Jon, as we have no indication that Melisandre is aware of the ability to resurrect people. Instead I think they will burn Jon on a funeral pyre, and he will then rise from the flames (akin to Daenerys in S01E10), even to Melisandre surprise. I both hope and predict this.

    • @heroplaya4230
      @heroplaya4230 4 года назад +12

      3 years later, that’s a good theory man. Really really hope that happens

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 9 лет назад +29

    I'll say it again, and I'll get mocked for saying it again, you're an amazing video editor. What software do you use?

    • @riparianlife97701
      @riparianlife97701 9 лет назад

      YMBatal OH NO WAY! RUclips video editor? I bought Corel for no reason.

    • @FireDevil506
      @FireDevil506 9 лет назад

      Docktor Jim No it says Toon Boom Studio 8.1 The "Created using" isn't actually what he uses to edit. He says in the description he uses Toon Boom Studio 8.1

    • @riparianlife97701
      @riparianlife97701 9 лет назад

      Guru Zaheer Thanks!

  • @Giglioti
    @Giglioti 9 лет назад +51

    In the show, could it be that the burning of Shireen was actually to clear the way back to Castle Black for Melisandre ?
    Also, I think Theon will be the sacrifice to bring Jon back, he has king's blood since Balon is king of the Iron Islands and it could serve as atonement for his betrayal of the Starks.

    • @mshamamci
      @mshamamci 9 лет назад +4

      Giglioti Good point I like it

    • @cplogesh
      @cplogesh 9 лет назад

      Giglioti nope theon has bigger fish to fry in iron islands...

    • @Giglioti
      @Giglioti 9 лет назад

      logesh palani In the books, I agree but in the show seems unlikely

    • @GeekFurious
      @GeekFurious 9 лет назад +4

      Giglioti I'm all for the Theon theory. There is no way Shireen is the sacrifice that brings Jon back. I don't see the Lord of Light accepting the blood of an innocent unless they volunteer themselves for that sacrifice. The point is made when Stannis loses everything for doing it.

    • @ColinsBaldGrandma
      @ColinsBaldGrandma 9 лет назад

      Giglioti but they are adding the greyjoy uncles next season...

  • @SeBz10Killjoy
    @SeBz10Killjoy 8 лет назад +18

    I think you would've been a nice replacement for Bloodraven, Lord Alt Shift X because you freaking CALLED IT!

  • @Alias24288
    @Alias24288 7 лет назад +5

    it's amazing how spot on all your theories are.

  • @love_otter
    @love_otter 9 лет назад +35

    Just a heads up, the description displays in the subscription field, so that's a pretty hardcore spoiler visible without even clicking the video.

    • @AlexD19931
      @AlexD19931 9 лет назад +1

      love_otter Those aren't requirements, those were just things the original Azor Ahai did to bring about Lightbringer that didn't work. I don't think they're necessities to the prophecy.

    • @love_otter
      @love_otter 9 лет назад

      I think you're responding to the wrong comment, bro.

    • @AlexD19931
      @AlexD19931 9 лет назад +1

      When I posted it, I had linked to the right one, then I saw this and my shame came into being.

    • @love_otter
      @love_otter 9 лет назад +18

      Shame. *dingding*

    • @Mystery7932
      @Mystery7932 9 лет назад

      Why would you sub and not expect spoilers?

  • @natalieruegger2609
    @natalieruegger2609 9 лет назад +89

    snowflake jesus or bust!
    the evidence you cite to support your theories peppered with the right amount of humor over your cinnamon-frappe smooth voice.. nothin but love alt shift x!! your videos are truly unrivaled. keep holdin it down and keepin the hope alive for us :)

    • @AltShiftX
      @AltShiftX  9 лет назад +10

      +natalie ruegger Cheers! Will do.

    • @philingrouille7198
      @philingrouille7198 8 лет назад +1

      +Alt Shift X Could you do a theory video on Sweetrobin possibly being Littlefinger's son and not Jon Arryn's? That would be sweet.

    • @nikunjmajithia1113
      @nikunjmajithia1113 8 лет назад

      +natalie ruegger Jesus is real and is a kind person he helps and did miracles he is a loving indivaul and is divine u are a messed up sicko mocking him like that learn your stuff

    • @natalieruegger2609
      @natalieruegger2609 8 лет назад

      Nikunj Majithia if you follow jesus you'd know he asks you to be Christ-like in your own actions and i don't think that involves calling me a sicko or putting others down in general, maybe YOU should learn your stuff bud. i've got a great relationship with God & i don't think i could get along with anyone who didn't have a badass sense of humor.

    • @nikunjmajithia1113
      @nikunjmajithia1113 8 лет назад

      natalie ruegger u mock by saying words like this learn your stuff

  • @0ctalpus
    @0ctalpus 8 лет назад +13

    You were right, the whole time! - Jon Snow

  • @loljoli235
    @loljoli235 8 лет назад +20

    No fucking way!!! I just saw this video among my "suggestion" list two hours ago, and then.......
    HOLY SHIT!!!

    • @lilgoldenbuddy
      @lilgoldenbuddy 8 лет назад +6

      I am still screaming.

    • @lizbathory7483
      @lizbathory7483 8 лет назад

      +Stephanie Douranakis I am still crying xD of happines!.

  • @akh_98
    @akh_98 3 года назад +3

    12:46
    "And that the next book is going to be a hell of a read."
    Yeah, sure.

  • @PKPK-rr3rs
    @PKPK-rr3rs 8 лет назад +35

    I think you just gave George RR Martin some inspiration

  • @kins1894
    @kins1894 Год назад +1

    This was my first ever Alt shift X video.
    I was just a casual tv viewer of the show. After Jons death in S05 I delved in everthing GoT related, and even though I did not read the book, I became an ubber fan of ghe show. And stumbled on this gem. And since then watched every vid.

  • @ludiqtitan
    @ludiqtitan 8 лет назад +375

    Jon Snow is not coming back. Jon Targaryen tho is probably coming back....or Jon Stark.

    • @Liverpooooool100
      @Liverpooooool100 8 лет назад

      +Nikolay Nenov Dobre be moi :D

    • @xBaDAsSxxLePraCHaUn
      @xBaDAsSxxLePraCHaUn 8 лет назад +16

      +Nikolay Nenov i agree i think thats what all the producers mean when they say jon snow isn't coming back

    • @nani.36
      @nani.36 8 лет назад +45

      Jon Starkaryen

    • @Pedroskini
      @Pedroskini 8 лет назад

      LOL !!!!

    • @patrickthepure
      @patrickthepure 8 лет назад +85

      Jon Kardashyen

  • @gabriellaureano2570
    @gabriellaureano2570 9 лет назад +23

    That wasn't a cross in the show it was Benjen he can shapeshift

  • @AmethystEyes
    @AmethystEyes 8 лет назад +7

    And technically if R+L=J is true, he would have a stronger claim than Dany. As him being born of the first son of a Targaryen ruler his living lineage would have claim before Dany.

  • @playermartin286
    @playermartin286 5 лет назад +7

    Even thinking about going out and buying WINDS i get a warm feeling in my belly

  • @josephorren8980
    @josephorren8980 8 лет назад

    Your videos are hands down the best analysis of ASOIAF/GoT I've ever seen! Keep it up!

  • @Mf7d89
    @Mf7d89 9 лет назад +9

    Man I admire how much effort you put into editing your videos, it must be a pain! bravo its appreciated

  • @noel12th
    @noel12th 9 лет назад +4

    Just like the rest of your videos, this one is first class. Can't wait to see what's next!

  • @filipferencak2717
    @filipferencak2717 3 года назад +3

    Alt Shift X (2:43): "Surely you don't have an awesome stand off like this only to not have a payoff later on."
    D&D: "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."

  • @tonytorres2620
    @tonytorres2620 8 лет назад

    You are not as peppy as the other youtube reviewers, or as "exciting", but you are MASTERFUL. Your insights are almost scientific due to the way you present evidence and several levesl above the competition. Wish I had found you a LOT earlier. Thank you for your work.

  • @ChillinCT
    @ChillinCT 9 лет назад +22

    If George R.R. Martin doesn't resurrect Jon Snow in the upcoming books and in turn the show, then he's a complete fool. In my opinion Jon Snow has more of the end game story on his shoulders than anyone else at this point. Everyone including Daenerys, seem to be more worried about ruling the world,birthrights and lust for power while Jon Snow is on the front lines of the War for the Dawn which is the true threat. He's just too important a character to kill off at this point. If George kills off Jon Snow who seems to be the only symbol of selflessness, honor and justice left then whats the point of reading the rest of the story? Imho, Daenerys and Jon Snow are the two pillars holding the story up and if one falls the whole thing crumbles. Show me one character who can replace Jon Snow that anyone would be happy with, I don't think there will be many recommendations if any. The R+L=J theory has to come into play. I think if he learns hes a Targaryen, a legit Targaryen and not a River then he will seek out Daenerys not only because shes his sister but also because hes going to want to get as many people possible ready for the White Walker invasion and he would be in a perfect position to bring the Wildlings to her side. That's a good chunk of people to get the ball rolling towards end game. If Jon Snow is resurrected I hope its done by Thoros of Myr and not Melisandre because she sucks and Thoros seemed like a much cooler character. Maybe Lady Stoneheart sends Thoros after hearing of Jon's death or maybe Melisandre sends for Thoros personally considering he brought Beric back to life 6 times. There's so many possible resurrection scenarios for Snow, but more than likely it will involve a red priest or priestess. Whatever happens Jon Snow has to comeback otherwise the story wont be the same and not in a good way. Sorry for the rant.

    • @sofiaa1616
      @sofiaa1616 8 лет назад +1

      ChillinCT Don't worry, he's hinted in interviews that Jon will return.

    • @TorosJake16
      @TorosJake16 8 лет назад +4

      Jon is danaerys' nephew. rhaegar is her brother and jons dad.

    • @Ren99510
      @Ren99510 8 лет назад

      +ChillinCT Don't be disappointed if he doesn't come back in Season 6 though. I'd prefer they bring him back then but he's not been casted. Of course they could be lying. Either way we'll definitely have our lovely Jon back by season 7.

  • @cruddddddddddddddd
    @cruddddddddddddddd 5 лет назад +9

    My only problem with Shireen getting burned for Jon's resurrection (and I'm speaking of the books, here, since we've passed this in the show) is that Thoros is able to bring Beric back time and again without a sacrifice.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Год назад +4

      The last kiss doesn't necessarily work because it brings back only a part of your soul back, we know that being a wight is not the best second life you can have (the Army of The Dead, Beric and Lady Stoneheart are there to proof) so Mel might use something more potent to fully ressurect Jon's body A.K.A King's Blood via Shireen and possibly Theon if Stannis execute him!

    • @cruddddddddddddddd
      @cruddddddddddddddd Год назад

      @@PedroLucas-mg5je Maybe so, but I've wondered if something might be different with Jon's resurrection since he can warg - if his essence goes into his wolf, and she brings his body back, would his full essence just return?

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Год назад +1

      @@cruddddddddddddddd Maybe his essence would be more wolfish and can have some sort of the sixth sense that the direwolves had, like sensing if a person is trustworthy or not (like how Grey Wind and Lady Felt that the Freys and Joffrey weren't trustworthy) and his post-resurrection appearance could be similar to Ghost, white hair and red eyes!

  • @lukemorgan3001
    @lukemorgan3001 8 лет назад

    THANK YOU Alt Shift X!!!!
    I just watched s5 ep10 and after much disbelief and a few tears you just gave me hope that GoT's best character isn't dead.

  • @peterdorn7688
    @peterdorn7688 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks a lot for your vision … it sounds great!

  • @tylermccail157
    @tylermccail157 8 лет назад +9

    Great video. I just paused it at 10:13 to say that I've been watching every, "Jon Snow will return," video I can find, and this one is already the best. I have been thinking that Jon must learn of his parentage before or at the very moment of his resurrection, because having him come back to life as plain old Jon Snow, and allowing *any* time to go by before revealing his parentage, would be devastatingly anticlimactic. He must be Jon Targaryen, at the moment he opens his eyes. Even having him learn who his parents are, later in the same episode in which he's brought back, would be clunky, unbelievable and just kind of stupid lol.

  • @Simfyre
    @Simfyre 8 лет назад +12

    I like somewhat not knowing what will happen until it happens, but theorizing is so much fun. This is the most intelligent interpretation and educated guess about what will happen that I have listened to so far. Will be interesting to see how it plays out compared to these ideas.

  • @rickyred001
    @rickyred001 8 лет назад +1

    Another superb video from altshiftx :)

  • @GuilhermeBerserk
    @GuilhermeBerserk 8 лет назад

    I can only say, CONGRATS, for your work ,time and nice way to explain ! Sweet !

  • @BiteThis
    @BiteThis 6 лет назад +16

    My Theory for the books, (since show fucked this up.) Stannis defeats the Boltons and claims Winterfell. After he hears of Jon's death he declares him a true Stark (like he had offered Jon before) and has his body brought to Winterfell to lay in the Crypts with the other Starks. Meanwhile he has Theon captured at Winterfell, somehow Lady Stoneheart hears of this and heads to Winterfell to kill him ( she thinks he killed Bran and Rickon) She will be well accepted there due to melisandre, since she rides with the red priest. There Stannis will let her execute Theon since he planned on doing it anyway (Whether she kills Theon or doesn't effect the main theory), and she will discover Jon is dead. In an ironic twist she will give Jon the kiss of life, trading her life for the boy she despised and hated.

  • @kefkapalazzo1
    @kefkapalazzo1 8 лет назад +13

    Melisandre is such an interesting character

  • @CrimsonYetiCartoons
    @CrimsonYetiCartoons 8 лет назад

    I really enjoy your videos. They are well put together and thought out really well. Subbed.

  • @floor_tank_shanks4194
    @floor_tank_shanks4194 Год назад

    these theories of yours are pretty damn accurate to what I would expect to come on the next book

  • @warpedlion
    @warpedlion 3 года назад +4

    "Surely you don't have an awesome stand off like this without without payoff later on" 😫

  • @dorsal-qb5fr
    @dorsal-qb5fr 8 лет назад +18

    Melisandre dying? Count me out. I love Mel! Although, her blood would undoubtedly make a freaking lightsaber out of Longclaw!!!

    • @nasar12345678
      @nasar12345678 8 лет назад

      +Martin Clément but shes hot !They should not exclude her from the rest rest of the seasons!

    • @giuliaderboss6988
      @giuliaderboss6988 8 лет назад

      +dorsal 2008 I hate her. I just hate her and want her to die. She is so false and hypocritical. You have a strange taste.

    • @dorsal-qb5fr
      @dorsal-qb5fr 8 лет назад

      Giulia der Boss
      Guilty! (Heheh)

    • @mattgames7543
      @mattgames7543 8 лет назад

      +dorsal 2008 I love the character, but I don't like her, but I do at the same time. She is willing to make sacrifices along the way, and I don't like that. But she is (or she appears to be) doing it all for the good of the realm, or the world they live in, much like Varys. And that is what is amazing about the characters in this series. They are not clear cut good and evil, they all have a bit of both. Just like real humans, no fairy tales over here. These books and seasons are the most real things I have seen and read tbh.

    • @dorsal-qb5fr
      @dorsal-qb5fr 8 лет назад +1

      MattGames
      The thing I love most about Melisandre is that her character demands your attention whenever she's on the screen because you're always wondering what crazy thing she's about to do or say next.

  • @AntoineDennison
    @AntoineDennison 8 лет назад

    Love, love, LOVE your insights. They really wrap these loose threads up nicely and compromise none of the established themes.

  • @BreakingBad13
    @BreakingBad13 5 лет назад

    Watching this now, this video was golden but almost no one could know ! Very good job :)

  • @TheTinyTimmyTimTim
    @TheTinyTimmyTimTim Год назад +5

    Also, Jon’s wound was smoking when he was stabbed, and Marsh was crying. If Jon is Rheagers son, then it fits. Marsh tears=Salt. Smoke=smoking wound. Kings blood=Jon’s wound.

    • @hoked2194
      @hoked2194 9 месяцев назад

      It was steaming because his blood is hot and the wall is really cold.

    • @TheTinyTimmyTimTim
      @TheTinyTimmyTimTim 9 месяцев назад

      @@hoked2194 true, good point, but the overall theme and symbolism still works imo.

  • @m33tballa
    @m33tballa 2 года назад +9

    After rewatching this video it made me realize that its strange that mel was able to resurrect john in the snow no problem. In every other example in the show and book obvi theres always a price to magic, its blood magic. I think in the book its going to be much more sacrificial and bittersweet when jon comes back

  • @brandonstevens2917
    @brandonstevens2917 8 лет назад

    Dude, just finished the last season a couple days ago, and i thought of all these things, but I had no info to back it up, crazy stuff, can't wait for the next seasons! Awesome video.

    • @kwidjibo123
      @kwidjibo123 8 лет назад

      You're full of shit, there's no way you thought of all that yourself without reading the books.

    • @brandonstevens2917
      @brandonstevens2917 8 лет назад

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @jimihougj1716
    @jimihougj1716 7 лет назад

    Love your theories so much man, I'm really hoping this happens in twow.

  • @SaudiHaramco
    @SaudiHaramco 9 лет назад +19

    I don't get why so many people think that Jon is going to sit the iron throne. Why? Even if he's the son of Rhaegar a.) he is still a bastard, b.) he has no proof and c.) why would anyone care? Why should the Reach, Westerlands or the Stormlands or anyone except the North support him to rule Kings Landing?
    I think he's gonna play a huge part in defeating the Others but i just don't see him sitting any throne whatsoever.

    • @djj1259
      @djj1259 9 лет назад +11

      113Robinho Because he looks like a real king than any other in Westeros a true king must recognize the threat , and show strength, to make decisions . I 'm not a fan av Jon Snow but in season 4 & 5 , he showed more than any kings in Westeros. And if he is a bastard or not does not matter more , Tommen is a bastard and is still a king , a bad king in my eyes .

    • @SaudiHaramco
      @SaudiHaramco 9 лет назад +3

      djj 125 None of that matters though. If noone supports him, he's not gonna be king. And there is no reason for people in the south to support him at all. I'm not saying Jon shouldn't be king but i just don't see it happening.

    • @SaudiHaramco
      @SaudiHaramco 8 лет назад +1

      Shakira Daley
      Well this would mean nobody knows of it and therefore nobody would believe it. I personally think that the R+L=J story is just important for Jon himself as well as for the reader and has no influence on the politics in ASOIAF.

    • @SaudiHaramco
      @SaudiHaramco 8 лет назад

      Shakira Daley
      Well i do assume we will get it confirmed and probably Jon will know about his parents in the end as well. But i just don't think that the Lords of Dorne, the Reach, Strormlands, Westerlands, Riverlands, Iron Islands and the Vale would either believe it nor care about it if it was true.

    • @btsblackswan9274
      @btsblackswan9274 8 лет назад +1

      113Robinho well u maybe right but i think he's azor ahai and people will believe azor ahai and no one knows azor ahai , and if jon goes to war with an army and he defeats people , others will come with him and people will start to believe he is that fucking azor ahai and for the ruler there is dany maybe she is the promised prince even is she's sgirl no one cares and she will marry jon snow maybe and then i can die in an actual peace way , i need this to end soon before rr martin dies

  • @Y.AG.123AFG
    @Y.AG.123AFG 8 лет назад +33

    For fucks sake, yes he will return, white walkers have business with him they cant just kill off a character like him besides melisandre wants jon snows D so she will most likely bring him back like she did to beric dondarion when the hound killed him

    • @titirak2550
      @titirak2550 8 лет назад

      she didnt
      it wasnt her

    • @leonetheboss5558
      @leonetheboss5558 6 лет назад

      Mayeb her power increases because she's closer to the white walkers, I think their gods are linked so that makes some sense (In my head)

  • @AranoxxDI
    @AranoxxDI 8 лет назад

    Truly excellent, thanks mate, you do a great job withe your analytic approach to GoT. Keep them coming :)

  • @gustafouvrier2993
    @gustafouvrier2993 8 лет назад

    Good research and awesome presentation. love your videos.