I'd love to see you insult a charger while it's rapidly closing distance. See what happens. You certainly won't be a virgin after it's done beating your mech into junk
I knew the the Hatamoto Chi was a heavily modified Charger, but I had no idea that they basically just crammed the internals of a completely different mech into its chassis. It's a Thug wearing a Charger's skin, and there's something kinda hilarious about that
Yeah. Much honor. Tea ceremonies are cool. Love Anime. Everythings cool until that pesky Kurtian trait of madness shows up again. Jinjero Kurita when asked what his first orders were. "Kill them. Kill them all." He also issued orders in Haiku.
The hatamoto-chi, turning a glorified running coffin into the embodiment of the dcms. Versatile? Yes. Resourceful. Absolutely. This thing is what every draconis combine pilot wants to look like in a battle, a samurai of old honorably facing down their enemies, ideally in single combat.
@justinjacobs1501 An unstoppable force that is, simultaneously, an immovable object. The perfect embodiment of the Combine's persistence in the face of other Houses coveting their lands and mechworks.
I love everything about this Mech. I love the backstory of converting a failed design into a totemic icon, I love the weapons loadout, I love the disgusting amount of armour, and most of all I love that it's a giant Samurai!
Yeah, pretty much! They could be hard to use sometimes depending on the type, but sometimes you just need someone to take punches and it does that well
Even my friend who hates the Draconis Combine can respect this design. You know you made a good mech when your opponents respect and occasionally admire the design.
@@Gigas0101on the mauler they work very well actually, the range, precision and volume of fire are exceptional, it's kinda like long range machineguns
28T - Shin is my favoured configuration. It has a gauss rifle, 6 medium pulse lasers, jump jets, TCM and a sword. It catches out people who are used to facing the standard PPC and SRM load out
@@JuergenGDB Not sure since I am embarrassingly far from having collected everything but if so I'd imagine it requires DLC since the main campaign ends in the 3040s and melee weapons didn't come out until the release of Call to Arms
Ah yes I remember the Melee Hatamoto or as our MM (Mech master) called them the Premier Draconis mech capable of wielding a sharpened metal stick to shank other mechs with.
It really was only a matter of time until the Kuritans gave a mech a katana because... muh honor or something. The Hatamoto-Chi is an extremely interesting mech from the point of view of production, as it's the attempt to turn the charger into something regarding an actually usable design. And then the Kuritans decided it wasn't honorable enough and slapped on a bunch of samurai Armor for no good reason. That said, I do like the relatively recent trend of giving more Chinese/Japanese inspired names to Capellan/Kuritan mechs (respectively) as it does make it seem less like just Europe in space.
The Hatamoto-Chi is an extremely interesting mech from the point of view of production, as it's the attempt to turn the charger into something regarding an actually usable design. MFW they just made a thug
Ever since the hatchetman came to service kurita had serious melee envy. They tried deploying axes of their own but their warriors are total weapon snobs so they had to spend decades designing a sword that was practical enough for battle.
Look into the story of the mech axe, they made the giant katana because they're MechWarriors refused to pilot a mech that had such a "brutish weapon"... In the middle of an invasion by the free worlds league using a bunch of mechs that have the axe in their loadout
I may absolutely despise every other Kurita design, but the Hatamoto-Chi, just like my baby the Thug, is an absolute brute on the battlefield...plus I love that they made it a samurai...never change, space weebs, never change
@@DerDrecksack87 You're thinking of the Capellan Confederation, which IS pretty much space China/North Korea. the DC is straight up feudal Japan in almost every facet
During the Clan invasion the Fed Com and Combine declared a truce and pledged to not use their house armies against each other. Then Davion sent his largest merc units to assist the Dragon. Much to the despair of his successors.
Because he said he wouldn't send FedCom forces into Kurita space. It becomes an even funnier backhand when you remember that the DCMS had a nasty habit of killing Mercs who operated in Combine space at the time, and had only abandoned the policy during the Clan Invasion because of just how utterly they were being crushed by the Clans - the dueling culture that was so prevalent among DCMS Mechwarriors meant that early in the war they eagerly responded to Clanner challenges, and thus lost horrific numbers of veteran warriors, and saw their Mechs claimed as isorla
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I'm definitely preferring these videos with a focus on iconic faction mechs. The extra faction info with the mech info definitely makes the video feel more well rounded I think.
It's just for a few mechs, it won't be for all of them. These are just in the order of coverage atm. The Shogun next week for instance, ain't getting this kind of love.
The Hatamoto-Chi is a Thug with a samurai aesthetic. Its rather ridiculous and shows when the owners started making factions more distinct. I thought it was the Jihad/Dark Age where Capellans gained many chinese battlemechs, Draconis Combine gained samurai mechs, and so on. I remember seeing a Hatamoto-Chi in the early 90s Battletech cartoon, so its a surprisingly old design. Its overall solid, but I would probably prefer a Warhammer 6D.
This was my favorite IS Mech in its TRO, it upgrades the look of the Charger to such a high degree, i only found out much later that that´s what it was based upon. I especially like the early art works on the Hatamoto, though most of the later ones were not as good as i hoped, at least until the MWO version came out. Because that one looks GLORIOUS, Iglesias did great work on both the Charger and the Hatamoto.
Look, I understand that the Combine’s whole thing is Bushido and all. All I’m saying is adding a couple claws to a mech never hurt anyone. KING CRAB GANG!
Ah the Hatamoto-Chi,it looks fancy and I like smashing them apart and selling what's left. It's armor feels rather weak in MW 5,I generally have more problems with Charger 1A5s that the Hatamoto-Chi. It might be due to the tactical difference though,I tend to act very aggressively when facing a Hatamoto-Chi,while I tend to go defensive and play for distance when facing a 1A5.
I found tge variant that only has 8 energy hardpoints and 1 AMS and it only gets like 64 kph with the same armor as my zeus. Seems pretty meh considering it gets no useful quirks.
When I first saw the Charger, I actually liked the design. It ain't as great looking as other Assaults such as the Battlemaster, the Warhammer IIC, the Atlas, and the Marauder II/IIC, but it looked good in some angles. And then I saw the armaments and I immediately took regret at even liking the thing in the first place. Like, 5 Small Lasers on something that big and fast? That gets a hard pass from me, folks. The Hatamoto-Chi, on the other hand, is something I liked with the samurai-esque appearance plus its more respectable loadout options such as the twin PPCs and SRM-6s. Glad to see that the Dragon hasn't lost its teeth with this 'Mech. EDIT: Anyone else think that the Hanse Davion image used in this video looks like Anthony Starr's portrayal of Homelander from the Boys?
The more this Charger successor evolves the slower it becomes. Assault mechs are anvils. Things other mechs run into and break. The Hatamoto-Chi embodies this concept. Though, 3/5 movement is more appropriate for heavier assault mechs. An 80 tonner should be able to maintain 4/6 movement so it can be assigned to heavy lances.
That background video, where a beefy assault struggles to get enough firepower to deal with a fucking firestarter, perfecly exemplifies my problems with early Hatamoto line. 2 PPC and 2 smr`s6 is just too little dakka for my taste.
Oh yes, ComStar "accidentally" shipped the Kuritans several _losttech_ mechs they "shouldn't have", that just happened to turn the tide against the Federated Commonwealth in the war of 3039 and stopped the Fed Coms from weakening the largest major obstacle against peace in the Inner Sphere: House Kurita and their Draconis Combine (AKA ComStar's favorite patsy for starting Succession Wars to tear the Inner Sphere apart so that, once the Great Houses had weakened one another enough, ComStar could step up to "save humanity" and reform the Star League in the name and vision of the Blessed Blake as transmogrified by the religious wackos ComStar became). ComStar WANTED to protect the Kuritians and break up the Federated Commonwealth. ComStar did NOT instigate the alliance of the Federated Commonwealth. That was Katrina Steiner's plan. ComStar participated _on the surface_ while, behind the scenes, they did everything they could to SABOTAGE it (including a false flag attempt to kidnap Melissa Steiner and aide the Capellan scheme to replace Hanse Davion with a clone - something they would do with a few years later with Thomas Marik, and facilitate the negotiations to forge an alliance between the Free Worlds League, Capellan Confederation, and the Combine to COUNTER the Federated Commonwealth. Yes, the FedCom's targeted the Confederation first, not because Hanse Davion was "using" the Lyrans to help him defeat HIS enemies, but because it was the WEAKEST target, and hated enough by the Combine and especially the League that they wouldn't really work all that hard to defend it (and they didn't) - and once toppled, free up resources to focus on the nastier, and more important target. ComStar was instrumental in convincing Theo Kurita to allow the break-away Rasalhague Repulbic to PROTECT the Combine from the Federated Commonwealth being able to attack the Combine from both borders. The Combine had been just as big a thorn in the Steiner's sides as they had been in the Davion's. And Hanse Davion targeted the Combine next instead of the Free Worlds League for two simple reasons, the FedSuns half of the Commonwealth couldn't help much, because they didn't have a shared border, and because he believed he could actually get the League to JOIN them (at best) or simply make peace and enjoy making a TON of MONEY trading with them (which is what Leaguers care about the most - or second behind fighting civil wars with themselves), and, the Combine was the MUCH bigger threat to EVERYONE. Davion just didn't know that, by that time, the ruler of the League was actually a pawn of ComStar and IN ON ComStar's efforts to stop the Federated Commonwealth from reforging the Star League in a way that would keep ComStar on the sidelines, if not replace them with an HPG network NOT controlled by megalomaniacal zealots determined to KEEP humanity in a Dark Age until THEY could be the people credited for ending it.
Great video as always Red. One knock, Theodore was not Coordinator during the war of 3039, he was still Gunji-no-kanrei. Takashi still held the title of coordinator through the Clan Invasion until his death in 3054. Only then would Theodore rise to Coordinator.
@@BigRed40TECH Takashi's best stuff is in Wolves on the Border, in my mind. There are bits in the Blood of Kerensky books too (in the Invasion of Luthien, namely) but Theodore definitely gets more attention most of the time.
Oh I completely agree. It's crazy how time can make one forget about the smaller details in a story XD I literally read Takashi's name several times while putting together the script, and I just literally forgot about him, it's kinda crazy.
I like to envision a battlefield where the Davion forces are giggling at numerous mechs of this class. When you make the mech plural, you're facing the Hatamoto Cheese. =)
This mech just makes sense. From production, to the build itself. Many an at home mech engineer has essentially made the same thing after hours of toiling.
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Great run down of the history. This is new to me. I enjoyed learning how this mech was developed. I will appreciate it more now, when I use it or face it on the battle field.
...Once ran a unit that got ahold of a few of these & a successful modification involved dropping the SRMs & ammo & replacing them with 4 medium lasers, as well as 2 flamers for anti-infantry work, & adds 2 heat sinks. Lacking any ammunition to worry about allowed this variant to operate for long periods without resupply. One of these made its way to Solaris VII & was able to have triple strength myomer added, turning it into a very effective brawler, ...Ahhhhh, memories!
The Hatamoto-Chi has always been one of my favorite mechs. I believe my first non-TRO BT tabletop book was the Field Manual Draconis Combine, with these bad boys on the cover in a military parade.
The Hatamato series has some good mechs. I'm always a little surprised when I don't see more of these bad boys when I'm playing against DCMS builds with friends.
@@BigRed40TECH I actually think the current one holds up. So if we don't get a new one, at least our exiting models will be ok next to the other new models.
I run a couple HTM-27T's in Mechwarrior Mercenaries 5, generally as my "fast" assaults often paired with a couple heavies. While the chassis may lack flexibility, they have respectable speed and armor while their 2xArt Iv SRM6's and 2x ER PPC's pack plenty of punch with enough cooling to keep them humming. One of my favorite chassis'.
I loved this design when I first saw it in Mechwarrior 3 Mercenaries. It came up as a special buy and would only be there for a short time, so whenever I played I had to be careful not to miss it.
The Charger was a "noble" failure, an assault class "scout".The idea and attempt was notable, It's was fast but severely lacked in the firepower dept. The Chi was another attempt to make the Charger a viable battlemech and yes, there is some success there. The Charger should only be used as built against conventional forces and light armored vehicles. When a real battlemech shows up to the party the Charger need to charge the back door and leave.
Big Draconis Combine fan. Just finished “Impetus of War” Novel by Blaine Pardoe. The battles are epic! Soooo good you’ll bring scenario's to the tabletop. The Hatamoto-Chi has a prominent roll in the story because of a certain pilot from the Draconis Combine sent by Omi Kurita. Must read book! Thanks for the lore video.
That was a good one! Here's a question though. Is there a video on the channel on the current geopolitical disposition. I.E. who is currently occupying which part of space and allies with which factions. Would be nice imho
I still wish that Tyco had released a Battletech: The Animated Series Hatamoto-Chi action figure (with Franklin Sakamoto) back in the day. P.S. In my personal head-canon, the Hatamoto-Chi wields a giant katana blade in one of its hands...cuz it should.
and this children is what happens when the factory world runs out of metal.... or you refuse to not eventually make a decent weapons platform from a lemon Edit: but yea, I love the look of this thing. fighting a lance with this in it is like seeing a Zeus in the enemy's lance. You know who is upset at you and they are very
This is the mech above all others that i wanted to love in mechwarrior 5. But no matter the variant i just never found success with. The design is killer though
Hey Red. As you've already done the Autocannons a while back, I was wondering if you'll be getting into the lore about engines in the future? As far as I can see, no one has done a deep dive about its mechanics, weight, performance, what the hell does 'XL' engines means, how much heatsinks they internally have etc. Seeing how a large chunk of a mechs weight is dedicated to it, I cant help but be curious of its importance.
@@BigRed40TECH I know that, but what does being Extra Light entails? Based on your videos, it seems that the reduced weight is at the cost of it being more bulky hence the higher chance that it gets hit due to increased surface area. But how much weight is saved? Did the TROs specified what materials was used? This small details is the main reason why I love Battletech so much
It saves half the weight. 19 ton engine becomes 9.5 tons. It really doesn't need a full video, as I'm not a nuclear physicist, and there just isn't much I feel I can relevantly deliver on them as a result tbh.
Since the H-CHIs are based off the Charger, I always give them a Light Engine and give them a 5/8 speed when I play Battletech. Makes it more fun for the Korita Player, and not so much fun for the Clanners/FedCommers.
I still feel that anything over 54 kph for an 80 tonner is a bit much in the engine department as you're in to the diminishing returns category, a 75 tonner would do the job as well for less and have as much if not more firepower for marginally less armour. That's just my opinion though and it's not as if the DCMS are consistent in their design philosophy (Panther anyone?)
I had always thought that the Hatamoto was a black knight in samurai armor lol.. finding out that its a charger is a huge turn off i was trying to farm one on mechwarrior 5.. last charger i had though was good for coyote missions.. i used it like a scout mech with a supercharger and a big engine. it does okay at the role but nothing the raven cant do better..
One misnomer you put in is that the delivery of thugs was a comstar "mistake. Comstar did not like house Davion especially since they nearly devoured house liao and merged with steiner and basically gifted lostech to kurita as a veiled mistake. Comstar is obsessed with maintaining a balance of power and created as much problems to whoever threatens the status qou as they possibly could. It's ironic because they also wanted the restoration of the star league and Davion was not only poised to do that but also would have been the best choice of the five houses.
It's listed as a mistake in the Technical Readout. They were meant to deliver downgraded variants. They delivered mostly downgrades, but accidentally delivered some Star League era ones. The same thing happened with Battlemasters. It's what's in the books.
Draconis bois have an awful lot of cool mechs...do jobs for house Davion, make friends with house Davion, headshot Kuritan mechs and take them home, arm them with Davion weapons. Makes for a very nice mech bay.
This thing looks so goofy, but it works well enough for what you want it to do. Mw5 loadout that works good for ai and is pretty cheap, Put scatter ppcs or SB large lasers but never touch the Srms except to upgrade ranks
To me the HTM is a little underwhelming. The Warhammer has almost as much firepower, the same speed, and marginally less armor - meanwhile the Awesome will shred through a HTM in a long to mid range engagement. I genuinely think it would have benefitted from not installing the SRMs, and instead mounting another PPC, making it a more mobile and nearly as well-protected Awesome-8Q.
For all the trash talking the Thug fanboys do, at least you can see out the cockpit window of the Hatamoto-Chi
Does the thug really have a big bubble on its face?
Hatomoto is cool honestly. I like its symmetrical loadout
Eh, seeing what you’re doing is for cowards. Real courage is operating in blindness.
If we can’t see outside our cockpit that means those filthy vat-babies can’t see *in* our cockpit either!
Hatamoto-Chi is basically a story of how a virgin Charger - went through a rough trials & intense trainings, transformed into a chad samurai
Challenges make character!
I'd love to see you insult a charger while it's rapidly closing distance.
See what happens.
You certainly won't be a virgin after it's done beating your mech into junk
A man cannot improve without suffering for he is the sculptor and the marble
I knew the the Hatamoto Chi was a heavily modified Charger, but I had no idea that they basically just crammed the internals of a completely different mech into its chassis. It's a Thug wearing a Charger's skin, and there's something kinda hilarious about that
And yet it looks better than both.
One of the few battlemechs that will lure someone to the Draconis side of the galaxy.
There's also Maulers and Jenners, but that's why we shoot their cockpits and take th mechs home.
@@bthsr7113 I'd also toss in the K2
Yeah. Much honor. Tea ceremonies are cool. Love Anime. Everythings cool until that pesky Kurtian trait of madness shows up again.
Jinjero Kurita when asked what his first orders were.
"Kill them. Kill them all."
He also issued orders in Haiku.
@@bthsr7113 also Dragons
I found out they have the Crab and the King Crab during the Clan Invasion. I think DC is my only choice.
The hatamoto-chi, turning a glorified running coffin into the embodiment of the dcms. Versatile? Yes. Resourceful. Absolutely. This thing is what every draconis combine pilot wants to look like in a battle, a samurai of old honorably facing down their enemies, ideally in single combat.
I mean, they took a running coffin, a literal brick wall, and mashed them together into a running wall...
@justinjacobs1501 An unstoppable force that is, simultaneously, an immovable object. The perfect embodiment of the Combine's persistence in the face of other Houses coveting their lands and mechworks.
I love everything about this Mech. I love the backstory of converting a failed design into a totemic icon, I love the weapons loadout, I love the disgusting amount of armour, and most of all I love that it's a giant Samurai!
Those are the reasons why everyone loves it
Well it’s only a matter of time since the Hatchet Man showed up.
@@Alex-pj8nz That's a good sign
Yeah, pretty much!
They could be hard to use sometimes depending on the type, but sometimes you just need someone to take punches and it does that well
Very interesting mech!
Even my friend who hates the Draconis Combine can respect this design. You know you made a good mech when your opponents respect and occasionally admire the design.
See also: Mauler.
@@bthsr7113 I'm dreading the Mauler vid. I like the design but I get the feeling Red's gonna rip it a new one due to the AC2s on it.
@@Gigas0101on the mauler they work very well actually, the range, precision and volume of fire are exceptional, it's kinda like long range machineguns
I love how in Heir to the dragon they assume it is only a charger due to it's profile at distance , and get a face full of LRM and a dose of Bruh
28T - Shin is my favoured configuration. It has a gauss rifle, 6 medium pulse lasers, jump jets, TCM and a sword. It catches out people who are used to facing the standard PPC and SRM load out
That'll wake up honorless FedCom dogs in the morning for sure
@@jasonsantiago6308 Do these varients even exist in Mechwarrior 5?
@@JuergenGDB Not sure since I am embarrassingly far from having collected everything but if so I'd imagine it requires DLC since the main campaign ends in the 3040s and melee weapons didn't come out until the release of Call to Arms
@@JuergenGDB with all current dlcs hatamoto has only two t26 variants and two t27 variants + one hero mech
Ah yes I remember the Melee Hatamoto or as our MM (Mech master) called them the Premier Draconis mech capable of wielding a sharpened metal stick to shank other mechs with.
Like Gundam Barbatos?
@@DracobyteNah barbatos preferred smashing with maces lol
It really was only a matter of time until the Kuritans gave a mech a katana because... muh honor or something.
The Hatamoto-Chi is an extremely interesting mech from the point of view of production, as it's the attempt to turn the charger into something regarding an actually usable design.
And then the Kuritans decided it wasn't honorable enough and slapped on a bunch of samurai Armor for no good reason.
That said, I do like the relatively recent trend of giving more Chinese/Japanese inspired names to Capellan/Kuritan mechs (respectively) as it does make it seem less like just Europe in space.
The Hatamoto-Chi is an extremely interesting mech from the point of view of production, as it's the attempt to turn the charger into something regarding an actually usable design.
MFW they just made a thug
@@brandonpeters9155 Hey gotta live that thug life somehow
Ever since the hatchetman came to service kurita had serious melee envy. They tried deploying axes of their own but their warriors are total weapon snobs so they had to spend decades designing a sword that was practical enough for battle.
@@eddapultstab2078
I refer to Kurita Hatchmen as “Hachimon”, the Japanese god of war.
Look into the story of the mech axe, they made the giant katana because they're MechWarriors refused to pilot a mech that had such a "brutish weapon"...
In the middle of an invasion by the free worlds league using a bunch of mechs that have the axe in their loadout
I may absolutely despise every other Kurita design, but the Hatamoto-Chi, just like my baby the Thug, is an absolute brute on the battlefield...plus I love that they made it a samurai...never change, space weebs, never change
how about Jenner and Panther? I think they're at least decent light mechs
@@ham_the_spam4423 the Jenner's good, if ugly. The Panther is just an undergunned and armored Vindicator. Hell, the Wolfhound absolutely smokes it
@@PopeMetallicus well the Wolfhound was specifically designed to hunt both the Panther and Jenner
I think the DC are not weebs, they are space communists, clearly more so based on china than japan in my opinion.
@@DerDrecksack87 You're thinking of the Capellan Confederation, which IS pretty much space China/North Korea. the DC is straight up feudal Japan in almost every facet
During the Clan invasion the Fed Com and Combine declared a truce and pledged to not use their house armies against each other. Then Davion sent his largest merc units to assist the Dragon. Much to the despair of his successors.
More honor that the Average coordinator at least.
Because he said he wouldn't send FedCom forces into Kurita space.
It becomes an even funnier backhand when you remember that the DCMS had a nasty habit of killing Mercs who operated in Combine space at the time, and had only abandoned the policy during the Clan Invasion because of just how utterly they were being crushed by the Clans - the dueling culture that was so prevalent among DCMS Mechwarriors meant that early in the war they eagerly responded to Clanner challenges, and thus lost horrific numbers of veteran warriors, and saw their Mechs claimed as isorla
This mech became my favorite from the first time I heard the AI announce it in Mechwarrior 2 Ghost Bears Legacy…..”Hatamoto….CHI”. It was so badass
When you let your Thug get a crunchyroll account... For real, though, the diversity of the variants is mind-blowing! Great video, thanks for this.
Underrated joke
I love your dedication to this universe. Between you and tex. I have had my love of battletech renewed. Not that I'm t ever left. But i grew up loving battletech but noone in my area were ever interested. Most were warhammer 40k fans and had no interest. So i never got to play the tabletop or hang out with others. It warma my heart how battletech is getting a resergance of popularity and its thanks to people like you we can get a battletech lore fix. Keep on it man. And thank you.
Nerdy Overanalyzed and Mechanichal Frog are also good channels!
FOOLISH SAMURAI!
AKU!!!!
extra * T H I C C *
I will return and strike you down.... SAMURAI!!!
*Davion mechwarrior knight*
"Stylish samurai Charger, really?"
*Get reckted by 2 ppc and srm 6*
Loong time ago...
I'm definitely preferring these videos with a focus on iconic faction mechs. The extra faction info with the mech info definitely makes the video feel more well rounded I think.
It's just for a few mechs, it won't be for all of them. These are just in the order of coverage atm. The Shogun next week for instance, ain't getting this kind of love.
The Hatamoto-Chi is a Thug with a samurai aesthetic.
Its rather ridiculous and shows when the owners started making factions more distinct. I thought it was the Jihad/Dark Age where Capellans gained many chinese battlemechs, Draconis Combine gained samurai mechs, and so on.
I remember seeing a Hatamoto-Chi in the early 90s Battletech cartoon, so its a surprisingly old design.
Its overall solid, but I would probably prefer a Warhammer 6D.
An absolutely unique mech, only the Draconis Combine could have come up with the Thug, I mean the Hatamoto Chi !!!!
This was my favorite IS Mech in its TRO, it upgrades the look of the Charger to such a high degree, i only found out much later that that´s what it was based upon.
I especially like the early art works on the Hatamoto, though most of the later ones were not as good as i hoped, at least until the MWO version came out.
Because that one looks GLORIOUS, Iglesias did great work on both the Charger and the Hatamoto.
The only clue is that the designers seemingly forgot to give it a left hand, or forgot to mount a weapon inside the stump.
Well Hanse when a Charger and a Thug love each other very much.....
We'll make sure the HTM-30S has a grave on New Avalon. WE'RE TAKING IT BACK!!!!! Great vid Red👍
The Dragon shall hold New Avalon! It is the rightful territory of the Combine!
@@BigRed40TECH NEVER!!!!!! LOL
Aww that is cute. They made it a totem mech to disguise the blatant copy.
And again with the Comstar bleepery too.
Look, I understand that the Combine’s whole thing is Bushido and all. All I’m saying is adding a couple claws to a mech never hurt anyone. KING CRAB GANG!
What about sculpting it to look like the Shredder from TMNT?
With claws.
Ah the Hatamoto-Chi,it looks fancy and I like smashing them apart and selling what's left. It's armor feels rather weak in MW 5,I generally have more problems with Charger 1A5s that the Hatamoto-Chi. It might be due to the tactical difference though,I tend to act very aggressively when facing a Hatamoto-Chi,while I tend to go defensive and play for distance when facing a 1A5.
I found tge variant that only has 8 energy hardpoints and 1 AMS and it only gets like 64 kph with the same armor as my zeus. Seems pretty meh considering it gets no useful quirks.
When I first saw the Charger, I actually liked the design. It ain't as great looking as other Assaults such as the Battlemaster, the Warhammer IIC, the Atlas, and the Marauder II/IIC, but it looked good in some angles.
And then I saw the armaments and I immediately took regret at even liking the thing in the first place. Like, 5 Small Lasers on something that big and fast? That gets a hard pass from me, folks.
The Hatamoto-Chi, on the other hand, is something I liked with the samurai-esque appearance plus its more respectable loadout options such as the twin PPCs and SRM-6s.
Glad to see that the Dragon hasn't lost its teeth with this 'Mech.
EDIT: Anyone else think that the Hanse Davion image used in this video looks like Anthony Starr's portrayal of Homelander from the Boys?
It does kinda look like Starr, but it also does look like the original artwork.
Hanse was a monster, so it fits. lol
Every time I run into one one on Mechwarrior Online my first thought is "TIME TO BAG ME A GUNDAM!!"
Then I remember I am bad at that game.😅
The more this Charger successor evolves the slower it becomes. Assault mechs are anvils. Things other mechs run into and break. The Hatamoto-Chi embodies this concept. Though, 3/5 movement is more appropriate for heavier assault mechs. An 80 tonner should be able to maintain 4/6 movement so it can be assigned to heavy lances.
That background video, where a beefy assault struggles to get enough firepower to deal with a fucking firestarter, perfecly exemplifies my problems with early Hatamoto line. 2 PPC and 2 smr`s6 is just too little dakka for my taste.
Oh yes, ComStar "accidentally" shipped the Kuritans several _losttech_ mechs they "shouldn't have", that just happened to turn the tide against the Federated Commonwealth in the war of 3039 and stopped the Fed Coms from weakening the largest major obstacle against peace in the Inner Sphere: House Kurita and their Draconis Combine (AKA ComStar's favorite patsy for starting Succession Wars to tear the Inner Sphere apart so that, once the Great Houses had weakened one another enough, ComStar could step up to "save humanity" and reform the Star League in the name and vision of the Blessed Blake as transmogrified by the religious wackos ComStar became). ComStar WANTED to protect the Kuritians and break up the Federated Commonwealth.
ComStar did NOT instigate the alliance of the Federated Commonwealth. That was Katrina Steiner's plan. ComStar participated _on the surface_ while, behind the scenes, they did everything they could to SABOTAGE it (including a false flag attempt to kidnap Melissa Steiner and aide the Capellan scheme to replace Hanse Davion with a clone - something they would do with a few years later with Thomas Marik, and facilitate the negotiations to forge an alliance between the Free Worlds League, Capellan Confederation, and the Combine to COUNTER the Federated Commonwealth.
Yes, the FedCom's targeted the Confederation first, not because Hanse Davion was "using" the Lyrans to help him defeat HIS enemies, but because it was the WEAKEST target, and hated enough by the Combine and especially the League that they wouldn't really work all that hard to defend it (and they didn't) - and once toppled, free up resources to focus on the nastier, and more important target. ComStar was instrumental in convincing Theo Kurita to allow the break-away Rasalhague Repulbic to PROTECT the Combine from the Federated Commonwealth being able to attack the Combine from both borders. The Combine had been just as big a thorn in the Steiner's sides as they had been in the Davion's. And Hanse Davion targeted the Combine next instead of the Free Worlds League for two simple reasons, the FedSuns half of the Commonwealth couldn't help much, because they didn't have a shared border, and because he believed he could actually get the League to JOIN them (at best) or simply make peace and enjoy making a TON of MONEY trading with them (which is what Leaguers care about the most - or second behind fighting civil wars with themselves), and, the Combine was the MUCH bigger threat to EVERYONE. Davion just didn't know that, by that time, the ruler of the League was actually a pawn of ComStar and IN ON ComStar's efforts to stop the Federated Commonwealth from reforging the Star League in a way that would keep ComStar on the sidelines, if not replace them with an HPG network NOT controlled by megalomaniacal zealots determined to KEEP humanity in a Dark Age until THEY could be the people credited for ending it.
Awesome video Red!! The Hatamoto Chi has been my go to Mech when I play the DCMS Sword of Light.
It just looks so friggin cool!!
8:50 This picture immediately made me wonder what it would be like if Antony Starr were to play the Fox.
you can see homelander in his cold dead eyes. lol
Dunno why, but whenever I think of this mech I imagine it with a katana in it's hand
There's probably a variant or custom option for that.
there is, the 28-T (shin) has a sword listed on the sheet. good weapon, little less damage than a hatchet but bonus to hit
For honor!
Great video as always Red. One knock, Theodore was not Coordinator during the war of 3039, he was still Gunji-no-kanrei. Takashi still held the title of coordinator through the Clan Invasion until his death in 3054. Only then would Theodore rise to Coordinator.
Yea, I realized only after the fact. I literally forget about Takashi all the time because Theodore's just a bigger character by far.
@@BigRed40TECH Takashi's best stuff is in Wolves on the Border, in my mind. There are bits in the Blood of Kerensky books too (in the Invasion of Luthien, namely) but Theodore definitely gets more attention most of the time.
Oh I completely agree. It's crazy how time can make one forget about the smaller details in a story XD
I literally read Takashi's name several times while putting together the script, and I just literally forgot about him, it's kinda crazy.
I like to envision a battlefield where the Davion forces are giggling at numerous mechs of this class. When you make the mech plural, you're facing the Hatamoto Cheese. =)
The Draconis Combine never punish people for such sleights as treachery, they simply offer you the chance to dine with your ancestors prematurely.
Great review man, you made this Kurita adaptive design look excellent.
Thanks!
This mech just makes sense. From production, to the build itself. Many an at home mech engineer has essentially made the same thing after hours of toiling.
I started watching, and subscribed 5 minutes in!! Loving you content, man!! Battletech always needs more love, and creators like you, do it justice!! Stay safe, and healthy, always, and keep on doing the good that you do!!
Great run down of the history. This is new to me. I enjoyed learning how this mech was developed. I will appreciate it more now, when I use it or face it on the battle field.
...Once ran a unit that got ahold of a few of these & a successful modification involved dropping the SRMs & ammo & replacing them with 4 medium lasers, as well as 2 flamers for anti-infantry work, & adds 2 heat sinks. Lacking any ammunition to worry about allowed this variant to operate for long periods without resupply. One of these made its way to Solaris VII & was able to have triple strength myomer added, turning it into a very effective brawler,
...Ahhhhh, memories!
The Combine picked a winner! It became a warrior after a trial by fire! I would gladly pilot it into battle!
The Hatamoto-Chi has always been one of my favorite mechs. I believe my first non-TRO BT tabletop book was the Field Manual Draconis Combine, with these bad boys on the cover in a military parade.
This video was incredibly awesome. My group and me are planning a gathering the day you make the AXMAN video🤣. Please emphasis in the AXM-2N👍
I second this
I mean, I will be covering it at some point soonish?
No no no. The Charger is an amazing mech! Always loved that thing, and one of the few minis i have multiples of!
The Hatamato series has some good mechs. I'm always a little surprised when I don't see more of these bad boys when I'm playing against DCMS builds with friends.
Hopefully we get them in the new Kickstarter.
@@BigRed40TECH new models are almost always a good thing. 😁
@@BigRed40TECH I actually think the current one holds up. So if we don't get a new one, at least our exiting models will be ok next to the other new models.
@@BigRed40TECH sadly it has been confirmed to be on the list of designs that are definitely not included.
@@wanderertheta Aw, that's unfortunate.
The H-C is such a weeb mech, but the history is pretty cool. Interesting video as always.
this mech can be ploped into red alert 3 and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference
I run a couple HTM-27T's in Mechwarrior Mercenaries 5, generally as my "fast" assaults often paired with a couple heavies. While the chassis may lack flexibility, they have respectable speed and armor while their 2xArt Iv SRM6's and 2x ER PPC's pack plenty of punch with enough cooling to keep them humming. One of my favorite chassis'.
I loved this design when I first saw it in Mechwarrior 3 Mercenaries. It came up as a special buy and would only be there for a short time, so whenever I played I had to be careful not to miss it.
This was great! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ah, the (un)holy union of the Charger and Thug.
There are so many of these hatamoto designs and the chi is probably one of the best :-) great over view of a pretty decent assault :-)
I'm just a submarine
But I am really mean!
I'm Hatamoto-Chi
Kaeru!
If you get this reference I am so, so sorry.
Really awesome video!
Awesome video as always!
I have awoken go a samurai mech pointing a big ass sword excellent
The Charger was a "noble" failure, an assault class "scout".The idea and attempt was notable, It's was fast but severely lacked in the firepower dept. The Chi was another attempt to make the Charger a viable battlemech and yes, there is some success there.
The Charger should only be used as built against conventional forces and light armored vehicles. When a real battlemech shows up to the party the Charger need to charge the back door and leave.
Big Draconis Combine fan. Just finished “Impetus of War”
Novel by Blaine Pardoe. The battles are epic! Soooo good you’ll bring scenario's to the tabletop. The Hatamoto-Chi has a prominent roll in the story because of a certain pilot from the Draconis Combine sent by Omi Kurita. Must read book! Thanks for the lore video.
Great simple rugged effective mech
Thank you!
Another great mech video.
great job on this. Love what you are doing.
Much appreciated!
That was a good one!
Here's a question though. Is there a video on the channel on the current geopolitical disposition. I.E. who is currently occupying which part of space and allies with which factions. Would be nice imho
Not at this time but maybe in the future.
@@BigRed40TECH Thanks! Good luck with the channel!
This is good.
I know the charger is a bad mech but it still hurts when someone says it because I love the charger
I fear you more than anyone who prefers a "good" mech.
Ok. I will stop asking for this now.
Thank you for the vids
Ah yes the ham tomato with cheese.
Put some mustard and mayo on it and grill that baby!
I still wish that Tyco had released a Battletech: The Animated Series Hatamoto-Chi action figure (with Franklin Sakamoto) back in the day.
P.S. In my personal head-canon, the Hatamoto-Chi wields a giant katana blade in one of its hands...cuz it should.
I have one of these on order so I can paint it like Sgt Kabuki man NYPD
Best thing Space Japan ever made.....
and this children is what happens when the factory world runs out of metal.... or you refuse to not eventually make a decent weapons platform from a lemon
Edit: but yea, I love the look of this thing. fighting a lance with this in it is like seeing a Zeus in the enemy's lance. You know who is upset at you and they are very
Good.
Very good
If there is a samurai in BattleMechs, the Hatamoto-Chi takes the cake.
This is the mech above all others that i wanted to love in mechwarrior 5. But no matter the variant i just never found success with. The design is killer though
Hey Red.
As you've already done the Autocannons a while back, I was wondering if you'll be getting into the lore about engines in the future?
As far as I can see, no one has done a deep dive about its mechanics, weight, performance, what the hell does 'XL' engines means, how much heatsinks they internally have etc.
Seeing how a large chunk of a mechs weight is dedicated to it, I cant help but be curious of its importance.
XL means Extra Light.
@@BigRed40TECH I know that, but what does being Extra Light entails?
Based on your videos, it seems that the reduced weight is at the cost of it being more bulky hence the higher chance that it gets hit due to increased surface area.
But how much weight is saved?
Did the TROs specified what materials was used?
This small details is the main reason why I love Battletech so much
It saves half the weight.
19 ton engine becomes 9.5 tons.
It really doesn't need a full video, as I'm not a nuclear physicist, and there just isn't much I feel I can relevantly deliver on them as a result tbh.
@@BigRed40TECH Ah I see. Thanks for the clear answers.
Since the H-CHIs are based off the Charger, I always give them a Light Engine and give them a 5/8 speed when I play Battletech. Makes it more fun for the Korita Player, and not so much fun for the Clanners/FedCommers.
I still feel that anything over 54 kph for an 80 tonner is a bit much in the engine department as you're in to the diminishing returns category, a 75 tonner would do the job as well for less and have as much if not more firepower for marginally less armour. That's just my opinion though and it's not as if the DCMS are consistent in their design philosophy (Panther anyone?)
I had always thought that the Hatamoto was a black knight in samurai armor lol.. finding out that its a charger is a huge turn off i was trying to farm one on mechwarrior 5.. last charger i had though was good for coyote missions.. i used it like a scout mech with a supercharger and a big engine. it does okay at the role but nothing the raven cant do better..
100% a reason to jump ship to Kurita and smuggle my beloved Wolverine with me.
I love the idea of a beefed up super charger chassis
you say that the 28T has a standard but XL is written on screen
The weaboo discount-Thug. What a bad mech, sweet Blake.
taking a rock that was polished into something great, how to take Mech and rework it from the ground up
What this background theme is called?
One misnomer you put in is that the delivery of thugs was a comstar "mistake. Comstar did not like house Davion especially since they nearly devoured house liao and merged with steiner and basically gifted lostech to kurita as a veiled mistake. Comstar is obsessed with maintaining a balance of power and created as much problems to whoever threatens the status qou as they possibly could. It's ironic because they also wanted the restoration of the star league and Davion was not only poised to do that but also would have been the best choice of the five houses.
It's listed as a mistake in the Technical Readout. They were meant to deliver downgraded variants.
They delivered mostly downgrades, but accidentally delivered some Star League era ones. The same thing happened with Battlemasters. It's what's in the books.
@@BigRed40TECH yeah and the tech readouts are kinda written in a comstar point of view, which is very biased in a humorous way lorewise.
@@eddapultstab2078 the "mistake" is just the official narrative, and that is rarely the full story with ComStar.
@@GhostBear3067 I'm not saying it is comstar, but it's probably comstar....
Comstar does not make mistakes....
Oh it 100% does.
What wait- this isn’t the Chicago variant from Terra 😅
Draconis bois have an awful lot of cool mechs...do jobs for house Davion, make friends with house Davion, headshot Kuritan mechs and take them home, arm them with Davion weapons. Makes for a very nice mech bay.
You know you can change a Awsome to one.
have not seen a video on the totem mechs such as Shiro, Hitosune Kozo, Rokurokubi. would like to see how these hardened armored kuritas fair
The Shiro is being covered soon on the channel.
Thug is in production in Free Worlds League throughout the Succession Wars
It was produced in limited numbers throughout the Succession Wars, and it was on-and-off during that time.
Justice for the executives of Wells Technologies came with their heads separated from their bodies.
"How weaboo do you want your new 'Mech to be?"
"Yes."
I have seriously never encountered this mech. Be it MW5 or tabletop I have never seen anyone use it
It's like a Thug
@@BigRed40TECH let’s be Frank, it’s a Thug with a fancy hat.
This thing looks so goofy, but it works well enough for what you want it to do. Mw5 loadout that works good for ai and is pretty cheap, Put scatter ppcs or SB large lasers but never touch the Srms except to upgrade ranks
I don't appreciate the Charger slander but I do like this video
How can one slander a Charger? I didn't call it slow :P
I call mine the "Hottie Motor Chicken"
To me the HTM is a little underwhelming. The Warhammer has almost as much firepower, the same speed, and marginally less armor - meanwhile the Awesome will shred through a HTM in a long to mid range engagement.
I genuinely think it would have benefitted from not installing the SRMs, and instead mounting another PPC, making it a more mobile and nearly as well-protected Awesome-8Q.
It gets way better with time. :)
Can you do the mawler please?
Mauler not mawler sorry about mispronouncing.
The Mauler's being covered before the end of the year. It's getting a long-format video, likely longer than this one.