My partner is a painter and decorator. He's never once had an issue with dried paint coming off his trays or buckets and has had the same trays and buckets for literally years.
It's absolutely _not_ a thing that happens. Also most diyers just buy a new one every time they need one because it's typically quite a while in between uses, this is just trying to scam customers on the promise that it's eco friendly.
Yeah I really didn't like how the dragons handled his pitch. He comes in and he's like "I've invented a really useful bracket to connect building materials together!" and the dragons are like Deborah: "You haven't tested this on gazebos? I'm out." Touker: "Why didn't you make a toy instead? I'm out" Peter: "This can be used in airport construction? I'm out." Sara: "This is a great device, perfect for DIY market. I absolutely love it. I'm out." Didn't seem like they even gave him a chance. Probably didn't help that he was so agreeable though... I hope he went on to make the wangerflange successful, he seems like a good, down-to-earth guy.
Wanger Flange literally would revolutionize world's most identified & selling furniture and homedecor firm, a swedish giant if you wouldn't have guessed. Amazing this humble handworking inventor hasn't gone immediately yo them...
Big mistake Deborah not partnering with Sara, the fact Sara owns one of the largest factory's that produce the plastic trays and said she could go into the accounts and get the product in there would have been enormous for the company paired with Deborah's background. Thing Deborah got abit too big for her boots after Peter rimmed her
You’re telling me you don’t think she can organise a deal to distribute through saras plastic tray business for possibly 0 dilution in shares? Debra has also said one of the dragons she’s been close with is sara.
@@rahjah6958 the most entertaining part of those videos are the comments. Watching the people who are flat out broke getting worked up like they know better than the multi millionaires, and giving opinions on the deals like they would know what to do because they watched a lot of episodes of the show. I mean really 😂
What a bunch of BS if you let it dry you can use any paint pan over and over. And once you have enough layers of paint you can just peel it out of the tray.
They have a very good business relationship. Both in and out of the show they are constantly pushing business to each other. So he is preserving and nurturing the relationship with the knowledge that is symbiotic and he will in the end profit from it (Debra’s success) way more than he would from the success of any other of them. And Debra does the same for him with the same knowledge. And that’s what everyone in business mean by building working relationships and protecting them. Because they are extremely profitable for the parties involved
Some people can't accept reality, and refuse to see innovation when they see it. He may be laughing now, but in 5 years when he flies on a Wanger Flange plane we'll see who's laughing
2:03 I use a plastic bag to wrap my one, works perfect, and you can get a bag……literally anywhere lol And putting paint…down the drain normally is not allowed lol Also cleaning tools is..surprisingly standard practice, if your painter leaves debris on your wall he’s not actually a painter For home use, this product will be used for a week then put in a cupboard and break lol Imagine mid paint and you step on it and it snaps 😂😂
Brilliant....so Deborah won the Paint Tray deal....but now Sarah will purchase them from the company for a few cents above cost...and sell them retail for real profit !! ...Genius Deborah...Genius !!
The guys with the wall system.... I can't believe there was zero discussion of building codes. The certification costs to build livable space will be astronomical.
“I enjoy going with my missus to IKEA to look at the bonkers names that they call things” You mean Swedish? Just because you don’t understand another language doesn’t mean the names are bonkers 🤣😂
Peter knew that they came for Dedorah and He knew Deborah will offer 20 percent. Just to beck Deborah and push them to accept her offer he offered 25 percent.
Deborah's valuable guidance led this company to multiple close-run compulsory striking off orders. One of which is still active. The company is not trading at this time.
Those blocks,aren't those flammable styrofoam deathtraps? I'd love that desk provided at work. Not my personal desk though. Perhaps they can be set into decorative panels that you add to your own desk.
He shouldn’t be selling desks he should be selling heaters that attach to desks. Offices already have desks & cubicles set up, workers will be the one to buy and attach it to their desk.
I think they got really blinded with the eco part and that they were investable. But I think they forgot if the product itself actually solves a legitimate problem
God be with the days when ppl did not work 24/7. I remember a time when most ppl had Saturday and Sunday off, time they could spend with their families. Since then society has taken a tumble for the worst, families are more important than money.
They probably just cut it out of the edit. Theres alyways a lot of business details that they go over that gets cut for time/because it's not interesting.
That ogel company lost me at £12,000 to build that garden office can do the same thing with better building materials and insulation also better looking in your garden for the same price had it been half that price I probably would’ve considered getting it in my garden
Why's that guy selling desks rather than selling something that can be fitted to existing desks? An ultraslim infrared heating panel and a mounting kit, far better margins to be had.
matey claiming to be Alan Watts sounds nothing like him nor did he go on a rant about dreaming whatever you want to dream and all that stuff the actual Alan says.
Why would it being made in China have anything to do with whether or not it's carbon neutral? Per capita the Chinese emit less CO2 than English and Americans.
Si jeg skall forskale en dome kann jeg da bruke denne braketten til forskaling for og støpe buer si jeg vill støpe en bue dome i betong i hagen vill jeg da som forskalingssnekker sveiser selv da produsere mine egne braketter til forskalingsarbeid ?
At those incredible paper trays that are shipped half way around the world…how incredibly good for the environment hahahahhahaha What a joke this whole dumb industry is. I sincerely hope people wake up to this bullshit within my lifetime.
This might be a foolish question but why would you ask people to give you money when you can easily go to a bank and borrow the money? Especially when the amount asked is small, 50 to 100k really is not much what do the business owners gain? Say they get 60 to 80k they will have to pay that back and lose a chunk of their business to people who gave the money which you will give back but you are stuck with yhem gor life unless you buy them out which will be 10 to a 100 times you borrowed from them or foolishly hire a hitman which could land you in prison not that anyone would take that option? If you would I travel and deliver
They make it at around 100 and sell it for 139...that's around a 30% margin, idk what planet they're on, but that's a pretty decent margin on furniture. Their retail margin was like 3.5x the manufacturing cost.
To prove the Dragons ignorance regarding how they value the products potential based solely on sales figures , at times demeaning the presenter for setting a high valuation due to forecasted potential is quite comical , at times leaving the viewer guessing if what is being presented in a Monty Pythonesque attempt . Once the entrepreneur shows that he has sold a million units of widgets and has netted a substantial profit , they become a group of lusting rapists pointing out faults in the product , business model...sustainability , etc, etc , almost in a coordinated effort to reduce the valuation before readily throwing pittince at the unsuspecting owner for the privilege of having them involved. Well guess what...the Wanger Flanger they all laughed at has indeed been used in large construction projects that otherwise would not have been possible without its unique features. The majority of projects designed by the late great world renowned Zaha Hadid depended on the wide use of the flander....in addition to several airports with irregular roof structures. Dragons what a joke ! ... lizards...is much more appropriate.
So unfair of Peter to be saber rattling for another Dragon, should be against the rules unless they are sharing the deal. Sara was the obvious choice for me. Hope Sara uses her clouth so they make nothing and their business is bust before the year is out.
seems harsh but in reality its best for them. Their entire model is based around an eco friendly product and not so much the diy sector itself. Which is why deborah is more valuable.
Cue the overused FALSE statement "carbon neutral". If you have to lie, or are ignorant of what you are saying, you've already lost. Virtue signalling masterclass.
Very poor presentation for the 2nd product. The product is brilliant and will make millions… but the dragons couldn’t get past the first post with the maximum use potential of the product… Once again; very poor presentation
What is the bald eagle Indian (TS) doing there he invests in nothing waits till everyone else says something and says the same thing, put a Rogan Josh on the other side of the exit door and say goodbye
My partner is a painter and decorator. He's never once had an issue with dried paint coming off his trays or buckets and has had the same trays and buckets for literally years.
I've had my paint trays for years,
Me neither. It's just not an issue.
Yeah this is complete bs. Trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist
It's absolutely _not_ a thing that happens. Also most diyers just buy a new one every time they need one because it's typically quite a while in between uses, this is just trying to scam customers on the promise that it's eco friendly.
you can just line them with a bag if you're that arsed xD
Sara is brilliant. She's an intelligent and credible young woman
I don’t get why she has to sit there with a face like she’s sniffing an eggy fart half the time though.
Her head office is 1 mile down the road to me in sleepy Co Durham
She also cares and loves giving people a chance when other dragons won’t because they are greedy
@@David_Mc_Our_God_ReignsSarah bull is a mostly greedy to give her money
@@SZiv-g2w you don’t make any sense??
"Are you going to build an airport with a wanger flange?"
You know big structures use small parts, like nuts and bolts, right Peter?
I'm in favour of the wangerflange
Ikr! They totally use those angle things in airports this product wants to replace. Why so shocked?
Yeah I really didn't like how the dragons handled his pitch. He comes in and he's like "I've invented a really useful bracket to connect building materials together!" and the dragons are like
Deborah: "You haven't tested this on gazebos? I'm out."
Touker: "Why didn't you make a toy instead? I'm out"
Peter: "This can be used in airport construction? I'm out."
Sara: "This is a great device, perfect for DIY market. I absolutely love it. I'm out."
Didn't seem like they even gave him a chance. Probably didn't help that he was so agreeable though... I hope he went on to make the wangerflange successful, he seems like a good, down-to-earth guy.
@@michaelberry8096 to be fair it was to random they came with with what they could
I think the problem is that it hasn't been tested for any kind of weight bearing..
Wanger Flange literally would revolutionize world's most identified & selling furniture and homedecor firm, a swedish giant if you wouldn't have guessed. Amazing this humble handworking inventor hasn't gone immediately yo them...
Big mistake Deborah not partnering with Sara, the fact Sara owns one of the largest factory's that produce the plastic trays and said she could go into the accounts and get the product in there would have been enormous for the company paired with Deborah's background. Thing Deborah got abit too big for her boots after Peter rimmed her
You’re telling me you don’t think she can organise a deal to distribute through saras plastic tray business for possibly 0 dilution in shares? Debra has also said one of the dragons she’s been close with is sara.
Oh my, Bobby is salty, triggered
I was really hoping for that duo to happen there
@@WTFiSMACCAare you 12?
@@rahjah6958 the most entertaining part of those videos are the comments. Watching the people who are flat out broke getting worked up like they know better than the multi millionaires, and giving opinions on the deals like they would know what to do because they watched a lot of episodes of the show. I mean really 😂
What a bunch of BS if you let it dry you can use any paint pan over and over. And once you have enough layers of paint you can just peel it out of the tray.
They fast-talked Debra for sure
That doesn’t mean you can’t sell that crap though people will buy it
2nd product absolutely brilliant
I agree, with COVID these became massively popular for social distancing at restaurants and can be made to look beautiful.
@@Shottas4Twenty Is youtube f'ing up and showing me the wrong comments? The second product here is a metal mounting bracket lmao
Peter so badly didn’t want to partner with Touker that he actually takes back his offer 😂😂
I actually think he was throwing an assist to Debrah because he was worried she’d choose Sara
I have a patent for a light mounted to a pole via Wangerflange
WangerFlange is a licensing play all day long! Where’s Kevin O’Leary when you need him?
He's busy dealing with his FTX problems
He should have a chat with the educators in the construction industry.
Bloke ended up looking like a right wanger flange.
Peter has done it b4! He is always pushing Debra for the DIYS.
They have a very good business relationship. Both in and out of the show they are constantly pushing business to each other. So he is preserving and nurturing the relationship with the knowledge that is symbiotic and he will in the end profit from it (Debra’s success) way more than he would from the success of any other of them. And Debra does the same for him with the same knowledge. And that’s what everyone in business mean by building working relationships and protecting them. Because they are extremely profitable for the parties involved
Peter always has something to say ...he should let them make their own minds an not say to choose one particular person but Sara is a very nice person
Why was Peter so hostile towards Wanger Flange? lol
Some people can't accept reality, and refuse to see innovation when they see it. He may be laughing now, but in 5 years when he flies on a Wanger Flange plane we'll see who's laughing
@@TheEsotericProgrammer Wanger flange plan, lol
I genuinely think it was the name 😂
Wanga flange sounds like a move in the Kama sutra manual lol
Or some kind of funky/spongy STD.
I tried the Wanger Flange in the bedroom and put my back out.
A Sara Deborah duo is probably the most influential
2:03 I use a plastic bag to wrap my one, works perfect, and you can get a bag……literally anywhere lol
And putting paint…down the drain normally is not allowed lol
Also cleaning tools is..surprisingly standard practice, if your painter leaves debris on your wall he’s not actually a painter
For home use, this product will be used for a week then put in a cupboard and break lol
Imagine mid paint and you step on it and it snaps 😂😂
thanks for sharing that.
Brilliant....so Deborah won the Paint Tray deal....but now Sarah will purchase them from the company for a few cents above cost...and sell them retail for real profit !! ...Genius Deborah...Genius !!
Still waiting for recycling to be a dirty word…
2023, still no problems sourcing styrofoam...
Already is for anyone who has a clue.
I predict by 2027 you'll be cancelled for this comment!!
Peter , Stansted airport is wanga flanges , they just had to do the welding instead
Wagner Flange is a great idea. I think it might be better for a construction toy type thing for kids though. Or small diy furniture.
So Peter decided who get the first offer 😅
The guys with the wall system.... I can't believe there was zero discussion of building codes. The certification costs to build livable space will be astronomical.
It's a comparable product to sheds, no building codes required.
@MarxistMedia not if it's livable space. None of those sheds are. Have you ever drawn and submitted plans to a municipality? I have
I think sara should offer both ranges of trays in her family stores and online , under cutting any rival with a bio degradable paint tray .
“I enjoy going with my missus to IKEA to look at the bonkers names that they call things” You mean Swedish? Just because you don’t understand another language doesn’t mean the names are bonkers 🤣😂
He should either sell or even give a set of the pole lights to tool hire companies, would be cheap advertising and get the product recognised.
Who would of thought most paint trays come through Sara, she's richer than debs 😅
It is her family business not solely hers
“You can look at it “ 😂😂😂😂
Peter knew that they came for Dedorah and He knew Deborah will offer 20 percent. Just to beck Deborah and push them to accept her offer he offered 25 percent.
I'm surprised the guy from Line of Duty has a construction lighting business.
Deborah's valuable guidance led this company to multiple close-run compulsory striking off orders. One of which is still active. The company is not trading at this time.
Those blocks,aren't those flammable styrofoam deathtraps?
I'd love that desk provided at work. Not my personal desk though. Perhaps they can be set into decorative panels that you add to your own desk.
All the entrepreneur ever said throughout was “yeah”
Tej says, “I can really see your passion.” “ Yeah.”
Even Peter doesn’t want touker. No one seems to want touker.
Wanger flange…..I can see a bigger scaled version of them used in the construction of airplane hangers ect…..
Saras better on her own. She can now go to thailand to get the stuff made for herself.
28:10 Will the Dragons "shed some light" in this entrepreneur's brightening pitch? 💡🔌🔦Something Evan Davies would say😅👨🏻🦲
Peter was utterly clueless from the outset of the wangerflange pitch
Deborah - 'Peter, can I talk to you in the bathroom please?'.....*brings kneepads
How are these "top 5"? Virtually no one's getting deals....
He shouldn’t be selling desks he should be selling heaters that attach to desks. Offices already have desks & cubicles set up, workers will be the one to buy and attach it to their desk.
I line my paint tray with cling film or foil.
Is a truly awful idea😂
@@FantasticFish72
Cling film takes a few min but does work.
Cling wrap is not a eco sustainable product! Not good for our world!🌍
I just use spray paint.
Same
I think they got really blinded with the eco part and that they were investable. But I think they forgot if the product itself actually solves a legitimate problem
13:41 I thought Debrah started twerkiing but it was her elbow lol
😅
i think construction boys can fit a light higher up mate
Peters been on lash no tie, loud not listening 😂
God be with the days when ppl did not work 24/7. I remember a time when most ppl had Saturday and Sunday off, time they could spend with their families. Since then society has taken a tumble for the worst, families are more important than money.
on the wanger flange- why didnt they ask about if he had a patent? would any one of you lovely ppl have any insights ? please and thank you?
They probably just cut it out of the edit. Theres alyways a lot of business details that they go over that gets cut for time/because it's not interesting.
they dont have to take packaging away when deliver cookers etc you can pay a fee to companies yes but they dont just do it
Sara would have been the better dragon
Its wild how many people down here with full confidence spell Deborah wrong
If the pakaging does reduce youll have your money back before it does.
Never had that problem just put a carrier bag over it,bobs ya uncle.
A polystyrene building you could kick a football threw 😂
Sara always makes that face like that dude from sopranos; Saul!
That ogel company lost me at £12,000 to build that garden office can do the same thing with better building materials and insulation also better looking in your garden for the same price had it been half that price I probably would’ve considered getting it in my garden
Debra the old savage!
There idea was building homes out of styrofoam and they weren't laughed out of the studio instantly?
Why's that guy selling desks rather than selling something that can be fitted to existing desks? An ultraslim infrared heating panel and a mounting kit, far better margins to be had.
I would just put an electric blanket on my lap.
@@squishysquid9505 True, or just put some more clothes on like any sensible person.
is Steve the you tube guy??
Yes. Diary of a CEO.
matey claiming to be Alan Watts sounds nothing like him nor did he go on a rant about dreaming whatever you want to dream and all that stuff the actual Alan says.
Free advertising
How is it carbon neutral tray, but it's made is China 🤔
They bought carbon offset credit a.k.a its bs
Why would it being made in China have anything to do with whether or not it's carbon neutral? Per capita the Chinese emit less CO2 than English and Americans.
@@BenjaminGoose Shipping/transportation
@@xenleah Did you listen to their explanation of why it's carbon neutral?
China is the world leader in renewable energy
Sara Will manufacture her own sustainable trays….she knows the buisness talk about impacting her buisnes she’ll adapt it to compete….
I wonder how the wangerflange is doing.
Last website update was 5 years ago
I’m so glad jenny is gone, we’ve proper dragons with proper bank accounts
IM OUT
Well Sarah’s almost gone bust too
Si du skall bygge fengsler runt jorkloden hvor mange nye topp moderne fengsler kann mann da bygge ?
Si jeg skall forskale en dome kann jeg da bruke denne braketten til forskaling for og støpe buer si jeg vill støpe en bue dome i betong i hagen vill jeg da som forskalingssnekker sveiser selv da produsere mine egne braketter til forskalingsarbeid ?
Peter knows how to make money but that's about it..... Not the brightest candle in the box is he lol
Deborah’s water looks too grey
At those incredible paper trays that are shipped half way around the world…how incredibly good for the environment hahahahhahaha
What a joke this whole dumb industry is. I sincerely hope people wake up to this bullshit within my lifetime.
This might be a foolish question but why would you ask people to give you money when you can easily go to a bank and borrow the money? Especially when the amount asked is small, 50 to 100k really is not much what do the business owners gain? Say they get 60 to 80k they will have to pay that back and lose a chunk of their business to people who gave the money which you will give back but you are stuck with yhem gor life unless you buy them out which will be 10 to a 100 times you borrowed from them or foolishly hire a hitman which could land you in prison not that anyone would take that option? If you would I travel and deliver
If I were Peter Jones wife I would be worried, very worried. 😮
16:45 Peter😂
No pro decorator would ever use a piece of rubbish like that.
They make it at around 100 and sell it for 139...that's around a 30% margin, idk what planet they're on, but that's a pretty decent margin on furniture.
Their retail margin was like 3.5x the manufacturing cost.
Wankerflange
Really think Deborah goes overboard with eco stuff givevit a rest woman. She drives a bloody huge powerful petrol car
All eco zealots are hypocrites
And flies in private jets.
Yeah. Deborah isn't exactly a genius. Polystyrene use has continued to do nothing but increase with nothing but projected increases for the future.
To prove the Dragons ignorance regarding how they value the products potential based solely on sales figures , at times demeaning the presenter for setting a high valuation due to forecasted potential is quite comical , at times leaving the viewer guessing if what is being presented in a Monty Pythonesque attempt . Once the entrepreneur shows that he has sold a million units of widgets and has netted a substantial profit , they become a group of lusting rapists pointing out faults in the product , business model...sustainability , etc, etc , almost in a coordinated effort to reduce the valuation before readily throwing pittince at the unsuspecting owner for the privilege of having them involved. Well guess what...the Wanger Flanger they all laughed at has indeed been used in large construction projects that otherwise would not have been possible without its unique features. The majority of projects designed by the late great world renowned Zaha Hadid depended on the wide use of the flander....in addition to several airports with irregular roof structures. Dragons what a joke ! ... lizards...is much more appropriate.
Top 5 is a bit of a stretch.
Alo9
So unfair of Peter to be saber rattling for another Dragon, should be against the rules unless they are sharing the deal. Sara was the obvious choice for me. Hope Sara uses her clouth so they make nothing and their business is bust before the year is out.
seems harsh but in reality its best for them. Their entire model is based around an eco friendly product and not so much the diy sector itself. Which is why deborah is more valuable.
Cue the overused FALSE statement "carbon neutral".
If you have to lie, or are ignorant of what you are saying, you've already lost. Virtue signalling masterclass.
Steven is so irritating. Can’t wait for him to go.
Very poor presentation for the 2nd product. The product is brilliant and will make millions… but the dragons couldn’t get past the first post with the maximum use potential of the product… Once again; very poor presentation
shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhh
RIP Peter Jones.
He isn't dead.
@@JoeAyres /whoosh
It's his birthday he's not dead.@@JoeAyres
Dumbest idea ive ever seen and oh look the company isnt making anywhere near a million huge L
I can’t understand what Steven brings to the show nice lad but I just don’t get it.
What is the bald eagle Indian (TS) doing there he invests in nothing waits till everyone else says something and says the same thing, put a Rogan Josh on the other side of the exit door and say goodbye
phirst
Horrifying
Boehoe, my dad died….come on man….thats life
Stitched Sara over in that first one. Debra might be green but she's also greedy too!
i put tinfoil in those reusable trays, this product is pointless