Interesting about your SW recommendation. I'm a BM guy mostly and their ceiling paint is great to use but overly expensive imo. I just painted all the ceilings in a condo & suggested the Behr ceiling paint (I used Regal Select for walls) because of the price, it was around $115 for 5gl compared to $262 for the BM. The Behr looks perfectly fine. I will look at the SW you suggested though & if the price is right I'll give it a go. 👍
Good to hear about the Behr ceiling paint. I haven’t used it much. I feel the same about BM ceiling paint. If you’ve got a contractor account then you should be able to get Promar ceiling paint from SW for around $25-$35ish a gallon. It’s worth a try
Would love a video on how to get the contractor prices as a DIY/Handyman. Just started my handyman business and need a few gallons for my first paint job.
I can tell you that Sherwin Williams is very receptive of starting an account for painters with their own business. Just go in and tell them that you’re a painter and you have a business. You’ll get the discount.
That's a great idea for a video! If you go into any Sherwin Williams and let them know that you're a contractor that does painting then they'll hook you up with a contractor account. You can setup a cash or credit account. In general, the more product you use the better prices they'll give you over time.
If the yellow is bleeding through then I’d recommend priming with BIN shellac then going over it with your finish paint The Best Stain Blocking Primer: What You Need To Know ruclips.net/video/MXzq60W6Gts/видео.html
I would add that have done ceiling paint tests with each of these plus the Lowes's HGTV (by Sherwin Williams) Ceiling Paint and I like it. You might look at it I have seen you use HGTV paint in other videos.
lol! I just asked what you thought about premium ceiling paint ( and a couple other questions about wall paint ) in another one of your vids and then found this one right after lol😄 Is pro mar as bright as the premium? Dead flat? In case you miss my other questions in the other vid, which line would you recommend for a good flat wall paint from Sherwin? Something that covers good, sticks well, holds up , etc. Thanks Jeremy!
I prefer Promar over the premium ceiling paint. The premium ceiling paint is a brighter whiter, but I still prefer Promar because it had a more uniform finish and I think it looks better. I’d recommend Emerald flat
@@SuperVassarBrothers awesome, thank you good Sir! I’m gonna give the promar a shot in the next room and emerald it is👍🏻 Loving the content, keep it up👊🏻
Hi Jeremy, wanted to see if I could get your advice. I’m going to be painting my apartment this weekend, and the most convenient place to pick up paint for me is a place that sells Benjamin Moore. I know you mentioned in some of your previous videos that you wasn’t a fan of the changes they had recently made too some of there paint. If you had to use one of their lines of paint for the walls what would you use.
Thanks for the video. You didn’t get into the whole world of painting a popcorn ceiling. But maybe the answer is, just don’t. For cases where a popcorn ceiling is not being painted, but the wall paint roller accidentally touches the ceiling, what is the best course of action? Is there a certain Sherwin color that blends in well for popcorn ceiling touchup?
Spraying popcorn is generally what folks do although I've cut and rolled a few popcorn ceilings. It's messy and you may want to bump up to a thicker nap roller. The roller is going to pull off some of the popcorn, but it's not that big of a deal. As far as touching up, you'll need to get a paint that closely matched what on there already. You may want to use a color deck to narrow it down, take a sample into a store and have it laser matched, or use one of the consumer laser matching devices to get you in the ballpark. Then just dab the paint in with brush over the area that needs the touchup.
Another paint from BM that is great for ceilings is Ultra Spec 500 flat, I pay $36 gal. I just went back to Promar Ceiling Paint which is great and I’m paying $23 gal.
We with untinted SW Premium ceiling paint. Looks perfect ! IF your ceiling is already stock-ish white you can just use one coat. Covering up new drywall …two coats. Coving up a color… 4 coats! Our kitchen ceiling had brown paint. I put two layers of Kiltz and two coats of paint. There were areas in the kitchen which needed a 3rd coat.
You can just go straight over it with a flat ceiling paint. You may want to sand it a bit with a 360 sanding disk before you start coating it with your ceiling paint. Plan on doing 2 coats
i love promar ceiling paint its very dead flat & bright but am afraid to use it in my small kitchen (I do have a vented range hood) because I know it's not wipe able. What do you suggest?
It just depends on how important wipe-ability is to you. If you get a lot of cooking splatter on the ceiling then you could upgrade to a more durable wall paint. Duration or Emerald in matte or satin would do it.
Hi brother. Me and my wife have started painting our house. We purchased benjamin moore regel select eggshell. I noticed that this paint gets very thick or tends to dry when put in the tray for some time. Could you please suggest something to get rid of this or can I add little bit of water in it? Thanks
Yeah, the new regal select formulation has been difficult to work with. When you’re not using your brush I’d recommend covering your pale with cling wrap. When you’re not using the roller pen then you should cover it with a trash bag. I demonstrate both of those in points #2 and #3 in this video. ruclips.net/video/M3umW_MXKQk/видео.htmlsi=ftDsQ-7-ipB15az6 If you’re still having issues then you can put extender in the paint. They’ll sell it at your paint store. Stir the recommended amount in and it’ll get you a bit more open time. If you’re still having issues then consider trying Emerald matte from Sherwin Williams. That’s my go-to wall paint currently.
I thought you were going to skip my favorite ceiling paint until you revealed it at the end. Promar ceiling paint is so good. I never like using any other paint.
I’m a DIY homeowner with 50 years of painting in my houses. I’ve used a lot of ceiling paints. On your recommendation, I just did our large kitchen ceiling with the ProMar. It is by far the best ceiling paint I’ve ever used. It flowed out beautifully with a 9” roller, had no splatter (I only got 6 little paint dots on my arms), and covered superbly with one coat over an already white ceiling. I also did the crown molding with the same paint, and it is all beautiful. If anyone has any doubt, I highly recommend it. I was able to get it from my local SW dealer, who gave it to me at contractor price. I think it was about $27 for the gallon. I still have half a gallon left, too. Thanks!
Hey awesome video!! I love your approach on all your videos, and I recently started my own business and have found myself doing a lot of painting. The first gig I had was the ceilings in a home and they were textured. My lack of experience caused me a little pain, but I got it done and the customer was very happy. I wanted to know if you could do a video on the different types of ceiling textures and how to paint them. That would be awesome! Thanks again, I totally resource your videos for knowledge.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad the videos have been helpful! I'll add textured ceilings to our video idea bank. I've actually gotten a fair amount of questions about textured ceilings especially popcorn ceilings so it would make for a useful video.
good video!.. i’ve used the ProMar ceiling paint..i did well at first but i found flaws after awhile..i prefer the flat superpaint..i know it’s for walls but great on ceilings!
Wall paint often does get used. For instance we used emerald matte for bathroom ceilings cause it’s got moisture and mildew resistance built in. It’s also somewhat common practice to use cheap or cheaper flat wall paints on the ceiling. We used super paint flat for ceilings when there were shortages a few years ago. In general, purpose made ceiling paint is less expensive than wall paint and is closer to a dead flat. A lot of “flat” wall paints still have a bit of sheen to them. Promar ceiling paint, for instance, is actually dead flat.
There are a couple issues with those products. Often times even when it dries it still has a purple / pink appearance. That happens a lot. Also, if that product get wet again, like a leak or something or steam hits it, it’ll pull that purple pigment back out of the paint and turn purple again. I’d recommend using a quality ceiling paint and use a headlamp or a flashlight clipped to a hat so you can see what you’re doing.
Ceiling paint is almost always flat and is not meant to be wipeable or durable. Wall paints come in a variety of sheens and is in general more scuff resistant and durable. This video may be useful ruclips.net/video/DyKh80Yt9k0/видео.htmlsi=z0l_jbEpLvBAVwWS
A flat paint is the only sheen that will help hide imperfections. There's only so much it can do of course but anything glossier will make the imperfections stand out more. Flat is your best option by far.
A true dead flat ceiling paint will minimize the appearance of imperfections in ceiling. A good ceiling paint will dry in such a way that it doesn’t matter where the light is coming from. That being said, every room and lighting situation is different. A general rule is to roll the ceiling the perpendicular to the light source. So if you’ve got a bedroom with two windows on the far wall then you’d wanna roll the ceiling so that the light will spill across your overlapping stripes. If you’re not sure then just try a cross hatch pattern. First coat go one way then on the second coat go the other way. Hopefully this wasn’t too confusing 🤷♂️
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No wonder I was having such a hard time painting my ceiling! I got the roller cover but didn't know I needed a cage. Problem solved. Thanks so much.
I'm glad it was helpful! Good luck with your ceiling!
Interesting about your SW recommendation. I'm a BM guy mostly and their ceiling paint is great to use but overly expensive imo. I just painted all the ceilings in a condo & suggested the Behr ceiling paint (I used Regal Select for walls) because of the price, it was around $115 for 5gl compared to $262 for the BM. The Behr looks perfectly fine. I will look at the SW you suggested though & if the price is right I'll give it a go. 👍
Good to hear about the Behr ceiling paint. I haven’t used it much. I feel the same about BM ceiling paint. If you’ve got a contractor account then you should be able to get Promar ceiling paint from SW for around $25-$35ish a gallon. It’s worth a try
Would love a video on how to get the contractor prices as a DIY/Handyman. Just started my handyman business and need a few gallons for my first paint job.
I can tell you that Sherwin Williams is very receptive of starting an account for painters with their own business. Just go in and tell them that you’re a painter and you have a business. You’ll get the discount.
That's a great idea for a video! If you go into any Sherwin Williams and let them know that you're a contractor that does painting then they'll hook you up with a contractor account. You can setup a cash or credit account. In general, the more product you use the better prices they'll give you over time.
My house has a very old YELLOW (80s color) how to color it with white, any idea. I tried 3 quotes but still yellow shed is still there.
If the yellow is bleeding through then I’d recommend priming with BIN shellac then going over it with your finish paint The Best Stain Blocking Primer: What You Need To Know
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What a timely video as I’m about to start working on my ceilings. Are you familiar with Glidden products, any recommendations from that company?
I haven’t used any of them enough to have an opinion. Plan on doing 2 coats would be my best advice
@@SuperVassarBrothers Thanks for the quick reply.
I would add that have done ceiling paint tests with each of these plus the Lowes's HGTV (by Sherwin Williams) Ceiling Paint and I like it. You might look at it I have seen you use HGTV paint in other videos.
We'll be doing some more tests with these products in a future video. Thanks for watching!
lol! I just asked what you thought about premium ceiling paint ( and a couple other questions about wall paint ) in another one of your vids and then found this one right after lol😄
Is pro mar as bright as the premium? Dead flat?
In case you miss my other questions in the other vid, which line would you recommend for a good flat wall paint from Sherwin? Something that covers good, sticks well, holds up , etc.
Thanks Jeremy!
I prefer Promar over the premium ceiling paint. The premium ceiling paint is a brighter whiter, but I still prefer Promar because it had a more uniform finish and I think it looks better.
I’d recommend Emerald flat
@@SuperVassarBrothers awesome, thank you good Sir! I’m gonna give the promar a shot in the next room and emerald it is👍🏻
Loving the content, keep it up👊🏻
Hi Jeremy, wanted to see if I could get your advice. I’m going to be painting my apartment this weekend, and the most convenient place to pick up paint for me is a place that sells Benjamin Moore. I know you mentioned in some of your previous videos that you wasn’t a fan of the changes they had recently made too some of there paint. If you had to use one of their lines of paint for the walls what would you use.
I’d go with Regal Select in Flat or Matte for the walls. Regal is decent to work with in those sheens.
Thank you
Hi There, so you have to cut in the corners a second time after the first coat drives?
Yes. I would do a complete second cut-in before you roll a second time
Thanks for the video. You didn’t get into the whole world of painting a popcorn ceiling. But maybe the answer is, just don’t. For cases where a popcorn ceiling is not being painted, but the wall paint roller accidentally touches the ceiling, what is the best course of action? Is there a certain Sherwin color that blends in well for popcorn ceiling touchup?
For popcorn, if you must, spray it.
Spraying popcorn is generally what folks do although I've cut and rolled a few popcorn ceilings. It's messy and you may want to bump up to a thicker nap roller. The roller is going to pull off some of the popcorn, but it's not that big of a deal. As far as touching up, you'll need to get a paint that closely matched what on there already. You may want to use a color deck to narrow it down, take a sample into a store and have it laser matched, or use one of the consumer laser matching devices to get you in the ballpark. Then just dab the paint in with brush over the area that needs the touchup.
what about CHB versus Pro Mar ceiling or super hide?
I haven’t used enough CHB to give a good opinion.
SW pricing is really weird , just bought a gallon of ProMar ceiling paint for $24.99 on a contractor account.
That's the best way to get it. I know they're super weird about selling Promar to some folks.
Another paint from BM that is great for ceilings is Ultra Spec 500 flat, I pay $36 gal. I just went back to Promar Ceiling Paint which is great and I’m paying $23 gal.
That’s the other one we’ve been using. Ultra Spec is a solid choice and not bad at $36 🫡
We with untinted SW Premium ceiling paint. Looks perfect ! IF your ceiling is already stock-ish white you can just use one coat. Covering up new drywall …two coats. Coving up a color… 4 coats! Our kitchen ceiling had brown paint. I put two layers of Kiltz and two coats of paint. There were areas in the kitchen which needed a 3rd coat.
Sounds about right.
my local SW said they only have promar 200 and 400. Which of those is better?
200 for most things. But Promar ceiling paint is the ceiling paint for both of those lines of product. They should be carrying it.
Just picked up 2 gals of promar for $24/gal. Sometimes all you have to do is ask!
That’s excellent! I’m glad you got it at a good price! Happy painting 😁
How do I paint over semi gloss paint on the ceiling?
You can just go straight over it with a flat ceiling paint. You may want to sand it a bit with a 360 sanding disk before you start coating it with your ceiling paint. Plan on doing 2 coats
i love promar ceiling paint its very dead flat & bright but am afraid to use it in my small kitchen (I do have a vented range hood) because I know it's not wipe able. What do you suggest?
It just depends on how important wipe-ability is to you. If you get a lot of cooking splatter on the ceiling then you could upgrade to a more durable wall paint. Duration or Emerald in matte or satin would do it.
@@SuperVassarBrothers got it thx
Hi brother. Me and my wife have started painting our house. We purchased benjamin moore regel select eggshell. I noticed that this paint gets very thick or tends to dry when put in the tray for some time. Could you please suggest something to get rid of this or can I add little bit of water in it? Thanks
Yeah, the new regal select formulation has been difficult to work with. When you’re not using your brush I’d recommend covering your pale with cling wrap. When you’re not using the roller pen then you should cover it with a trash bag. I demonstrate both of those in points #2 and #3 in this video. ruclips.net/video/M3umW_MXKQk/видео.htmlsi=ftDsQ-7-ipB15az6
If you’re still having issues then you can put extender in the paint. They’ll sell it at your paint store. Stir the recommended amount in and it’ll get you a bit more open time. If you’re still having issues then consider trying Emerald matte from Sherwin Williams. That’s my go-to wall paint currently.
@@SuperVassarBrothers thank you so much for your help.
I thought you were going to skip my favorite ceiling paint until you revealed it at the end. Promar ceiling paint is so good. I never like using any other paint.
Promar is still the reigning champ as far as I’m concerned 👑
I’m a DIY homeowner with 50 years of painting in my houses. I’ve used a lot of ceiling paints. On your recommendation, I just did our large kitchen ceiling with the ProMar. It is by far the best ceiling paint I’ve ever used. It flowed out beautifully with a 9” roller, had no splatter (I only got 6 little paint dots on my arms), and covered superbly with one coat over an already white ceiling. I also did the crown molding with the same paint, and it is all beautiful. If anyone has any doubt, I highly recommend it. I was able to get it from my local SW dealer, who gave it to me at contractor price. I think it was about $27 for the gallon. I still have half a gallon left, too. Thanks!
That’s awesome! I’m glad you were able to get at $27 a gallon. That’s a solid price and definitely worth it!
Hey awesome video!! I love your approach on all your videos, and I recently started my own business and have found myself doing a lot of painting. The first gig I had was the ceilings in a home and they were textured. My lack of experience caused me a little pain, but I got it done and the customer was very happy. I wanted to know if you could do a video on the different types of ceiling textures and how to paint them. That would be awesome! Thanks again, I totally resource your videos for knowledge.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad the videos have been helpful! I'll add textured ceilings to our video idea bank. I've actually gotten a fair amount of questions about textured ceilings especially popcorn ceilings so it would make for a useful video.
good video!.. i’ve used the ProMar ceiling paint..i did well at first but i found flaws after awhile..i prefer the flat superpaint..i know it’s for walls but great on ceilings!
super paint flat is a great option. We used that a lot when there were shortages a couple years ago.
Dumb question but why do they make ceiling paint? Why can’t flat wall paint be used?
Wall paint often does get used. For instance we used emerald matte for bathroom ceilings cause it’s got moisture and mildew resistance built in. It’s also somewhat common practice to use cheap or cheaper flat wall paints on the ceiling. We used super paint flat for ceilings when there were shortages a few years ago. In general, purpose made ceiling paint is less expensive than wall paint and is closer to a dead flat. A lot of “flat” wall paints still have a bit of sheen to them. Promar ceiling paint, for instance, is actually dead flat.
What about the ceiling paint that starts purple and dries white so u can see what u have already painted ?
There are a couple issues with those products. Often times even when it dries it still has a purple / pink appearance. That happens a lot. Also, if that product get wet again, like a leak or something or steam hits it, it’ll pull that purple pigment back out of the paint and turn purple again. I’d recommend using a quality ceiling paint and use a headlamp or a flashlight clipped to a hat so you can see what you’re doing.
Do you use Glidden paint and do you think they are any good?
I don’t use Glidden and I haven’t used it enough to have an informed opinion on it.
What is the difference between wall paint and ceiling paint?
Ceiling paint is almost always flat and is not meant to be wipeable or durable. Wall paints come in a variety of sheens and is in general more scuff resistant and durable. This video may be useful ruclips.net/video/DyKh80Yt9k0/видео.htmlsi=z0l_jbEpLvBAVwWS
Another question. How can I tell if trim has been painted with oil based or a semigloss water based?
Hey Jeremy, what's going on? Would the flat paint revile any imperfections when it comes to the source of light coming into a room???
A flat paint is the only sheen that will help hide imperfections. There's only so much it can do of course but anything glossier will make the imperfections stand out more. Flat is your best option by far.
@@TOMinPDX okay then, Jeremy, I appreciate you and your brother.
What's your views on sunlight entering the room?
A true dead flat ceiling paint will minimize the appearance of imperfections in ceiling. A good ceiling paint will dry in such a way that it doesn’t matter where the light is coming from. That being said, every room and lighting situation is different. A general rule is to roll the ceiling the perpendicular to the light source. So if you’ve got a bedroom with two windows on the far wall then you’d wanna roll the ceiling so that the light will spill across your overlapping stripes. If you’re not sure then just try a cross hatch pattern. First coat go one way then on the second coat go the other way. Hopefully this wasn’t too confusing 🤷♂️