Making Photo Paper: Inside the Adox Coating Machine

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • After 10 years of research, testing, acquiring a coating machine in Marly, Switzerland and bringing it back to life, the Adox team has produced the first batch of the remastered Polywarmtone paper.
    With Adox CEO Mirko Boddecker, we are taking a trip inside the machine while learning about the extremely complex and fascinating paper coating process.
    Footage by Nina Reble
    More info about the Polywarmtone project: www.adox.de/Ph...
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    / linabessonova.photography

Комментарии • 69

  • @bthemedia
    @bthemedia 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the tour! Love to see the behind the scenes dedicated people and engineering processes involved in our analog photography industry!

  • @BorutPeterlinPhotography
    @BorutPeterlinPhotography 4 года назад +3

    Well done Lina and the crew. I always wanted to see inside one of those production lines. I've seen kilometres of long buildings in Rochester the hometown of Kodak, but I've never actually seen it inside.

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад +1

      Happy you liked it! I've been super curious about production ever since I started printing

  • @AndreaCalabresiSilverprint
    @AndreaCalabresiSilverprint 4 года назад +2

    This is so nice. Thanks Lina. Thanks Mirko. I really want to use again the polywarmtone.

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад

      I loved that paper so much! Hope it's on the market soon soon

  • @ralphmiyashiro9816
    @ralphmiyashiro9816 4 года назад

    I've been following the polywarmtone project for years and honestly thought it would not happen. So glad to see we're so close. I can hardly wait.

  • @michaelsherck5099
    @michaelsherck5099 4 года назад +3

    They are re-making Forte Polywarmtone? I haven't been this excited in years!!!! Whoopie!

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад +1

      oh yes, they've been working on it for ten years now! Isn't it crazy

    • @user-ti9zc1xv2b
      @user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 года назад

      @@linabessonova 12 years and still no paper, and they will probably not release it; what a complete waste of resources

  • @erikvanleeuwen7376
    @erikvanleeuwen7376 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are always such a joy to watch. Thank you so much! I was wondering when I could expect your next video for it was some time ago, and then you come with this. Absolutely love it! Entering those analog production processes is like walking through a piece of history. A couple of years ago I was so lucky to see the production processes at Impossible project film. The enthusiasm of the people that work in these factories is amazing. Thanks 🙏 for this ADOX behind the curtains video. Carry on the great work and I will order a package of this new adox paper as well. 😉

  • @scotthays294
    @scotthays294 4 года назад +1

    Best photo channel around. It has been such a great pleasure being able to follow you.

  • @RichardSwift
    @RichardSwift 4 года назад +1

    Nice tour of the factory.

  • @56932982
    @56932982 4 года назад

    Polywarmtone was the first paper that I used. I got one packet before it was discontinued. I absolutely loved this paper. Great to see it resurrected. Now I just need to reactivate my dormant dark room to...

  • @garvinkelly
    @garvinkelly 4 года назад +3

    thank you for this, I have been wondering how it's made

  • @alfredomejorconfilm1411
    @alfredomejorconfilm1411 4 года назад

    Thank you Lina for showing us the inside of a paper production plant and its entire process. very interesting. Thank you.

  • @ahmedal-saeed9374
    @ahmedal-saeed9374 4 года назад +1

    thank you Lina for sharing , you are so lucky to visit the factory ☺️ , now i know why is the paper price

  • @BorisNjegic
    @BorisNjegic 4 года назад +1

    Great work Lina. Thank you.

  • @rgrbrn
    @rgrbrn 3 года назад +8

    Seeing this whole process makes me particularly anxious. It makes me realize that the whole world of traditional photography hangs by a very thin, antiquated and complicated thread. I hope that structures of this type will last over time because it would be very difficult to create new ones.

    • @stratocactus
      @stratocactus 2 года назад +2

      Food factories are as (even more) complex and we still make them nowadays. IMHO The only thing that would make it difficult to make a new one today is the cost, not the technology itself.

  • @marksgraybeal
    @marksgraybeal 3 года назад

    i started studies in this 1970's. simi pro amitour, failed my college class, but, worked at Sioux Falls ,Harolds film proscess lab, brot in mail bags, switched the bulk roll of 35 onto new canister in darkroom.,made photograph copies for restore. also.last was QLX kodak plant in Tempe,Az till they layd off in 07. similar factories i worked,, made fibergass film for circuit board factory. 3 stories of dip into resin an dryers, = very dangerous as flamible. So neat to see this. my Kin, Krayhenbuhl are frum Bern...

  • @theoldcameraguy
    @theoldcameraguy 4 года назад

    Fascinating process - Thanks for this behind the scenes view!

  • @zguy95135
    @zguy95135 4 года назад

    Awesome! And I can't wait to try out some of the new paper!

  • @marcin_szczurowski
    @marcin_szczurowski 4 года назад +3

    Guys, resurrect (Ciba / Ilfo)chrome paper. Make a poll and check demand for that paper.

  • @GaetanCormier
    @GaetanCormier 4 года назад

    I was waiting for that video! Good job Lina! Can't wait to try out this paper!!! Cheers!

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад +1

      I've been dying to finish and publish it. Took way too long! Happy you liked it!

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this tour it was cool. Guess what I now have a Beseler 8x10 enlarger to go with my 4x5 enlarger. It is a beauty and it was free. Now I just need a 8x10 camera 😝

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад +1

      Omg you have an enlarger many people would kill for. FOR FREE! How lucky are you

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 4 года назад +1

      Whatttt

    • @terrywbreedlove
      @terrywbreedlove 4 года назад

      I got an Omega D2 4x5 enlarger and a Beseler 8x10 enlarger from a family of an old man that passed away. They wanted too give it to someone they knew would use and appreciate it. I already own a Beseler 45 universal so I am kind of enlarger rich right now.

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 4 года назад +1

      @@terrywbreedlove would like the spare one ;)

  • @Nat.ImagesLarge.F.Photographer

    Very interesting video, many thanks!!!

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_7933 4 года назад

    You just have to love big machines 😊

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  4 года назад

      And imagine there are bigger ones! Would love to climb through one sometime

  • @Stop4MotionMakr
    @Stop4MotionMakr 2 года назад

    12:15 that is simply GENIUS.

  • @J4060
    @J4060 4 года назад

    Very nice video. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • @LegendyFotografii
    @LegendyFotografii 4 года назад

    ❤❤😍😍 Sweet Lina! I missed You! You are wonderful! 😍😍❤❤

  • @jasperdegrood
    @jasperdegrood 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @vintagelife5195
    @vintagelife5195 4 года назад

    Best channel ever!

  • @IainHC1
    @IainHC1 4 года назад

    Awesome! Loved it :-) Thank you :-)

  • @tamassanta6819
    @tamassanta6819 8 месяцев назад

    Two mentioned things are related to Hungarian photo chemistry, the first is the Forte polywarmtone paper, the second is cibachrome. The procedure on which cibachrome is based first developed by the Hungarian Béla Gáspár. He announced his invention in the early 1930s and called it Gáspárcolor process. From the 1960s it was bought by Ilfor, who develops cibachrome in cooperation with Ciba.

  • @SD_Alias
    @SD_Alias 4 года назад

    phantastic! Mirko please produce a Color Baryta paper for RA4 process. I do not like that color PE anymore…

  • @CesareVesdani
    @CesareVesdani 3 года назад +1

    What is the highest super glossy paper in the world made like? It is Kodak photo paper?

  • @davidkachel
    @davidkachel Год назад +1

    Why do you show a package of Forte paper when your video is about Adox paper?

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  Год назад +2

      Because the Polywarmtone paper recipe was originally developed by Forte. Then the Forte business collapsed, and Adox saved the recipe and the machines!

  • @davidkachel
    @davidkachel Год назад +1

    That part I got. But are they still packaging it in the old Forte boxes?

    • @linabessonova
      @linabessonova  Год назад

      Oh no, of course not! The box was only referencing the old product

    • @davidkachel
      @davidkachel Год назад +1

      @@linabessonova That was probably not the best idea. Forte wasn't exactly known for high quality paper. A sales rep I knew back in the late 90's gave me several boxes to try out. I did. It was so bad, it was unusable. Not a reputation you really want to share.

  • @JPRBOM
    @JPRBOM 3 года назад

    Hope you will bring back ADOX papers

    • @user-ti9zc1xv2b
      @user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 года назад +1

      They jus recently did a MCC paper run, im hopeful!

  • @neilhowe2665
    @neilhowe2665 4 года назад

    welcome back................

  • @veta-mitya
    @veta-mitya 2 года назад

    как тут уснуть, это же ФОТОБУМАГА!!!!!!!

  • @DB0480
    @DB0480 4 года назад

    I ask me one thing. He told that the Milk will flow back from coating area to the bottles and will be reused, but how they separate the two mixed Milks from themselves?

    • @ADOXPHOTO
      @ADOXPHOTO 4 года назад +6

      We cannot rescue emulsion which ran down the cascade. What we do is to circulate the emulsions just before the cascade until the whole cycle is stable. Then we switch a valve and inject them into the cascade.

    • @DB0480
      @DB0480 4 года назад

      @@ADOXPHOTO Thank you so much, I misunderstood!

  • @mattbray_studio
    @mattbray_studio Год назад +1

    So this is where the romance began 😊

  • @RGary_Hall
    @RGary_Hall 4 года назад

    Will the paper need a curing time?

    • @ADOXPHOTO
      @ADOXPHOTO 4 года назад

      Do you mean until it is hardened out? if so: No :-)

    • @RGary_Hall
      @RGary_Hall 4 года назад

      @@ADOXPHOTO I believe (it was a long time ago) that the curing was due to paper speed and how it normalized over a few months of curing. (I may be mistaken as it was a very long time ago)

  • @user-ti9zc1xv2b
    @user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 года назад

    13:54 that guy is using WHITE light there? Doesnt that ruin the emulsion?

    • @alfepalfe
      @alfepalfe 2 года назад +2

      I am assuming that was before the actual coating of the emulsion began, it didn't look like it was in contact with the paper.

  • @mohamedahmed9676
    @mohamedahmed9676 4 года назад

    لدينا كامره قديمه جدا من هذه الشركة

  • @nikitaokhotnikov1205
    @nikitaokhotnikov1205 Год назад

    It was very russian "тьфу" in the end of video 😅