Understanding Osees
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Osees are an american rock band formed in San Francisco, California in 97. John Dwyer is considered the key member throughout the band’s lifespan, taking on the role as a multi instrumentalist and vocalist. But most of the time you’ll see him with a guitar over his belt buckle like a member of the beatles from an alternate universe.
His band has a sound that goes in all types of directions. Tapping into garage and punk, and psychedelic and experimental rock. In this video i thought we’d take a look at the early years of the band, their most appreciated albums and what it’s like to play their songs on guitar. I’m Lie from Lie Likes Music and this is the history, sounds and riffs of the Osees.
Thanks for suggesting Osees! What band or artist should be next? 🎶🎸
Can you talk about the album Above, by Mad Season? It's an excellent album and no one seems to really talk too much about it. It has Layne Staley from AIC on vocals and includes Mark Lanegan on a few tracks. It also includes Mike Mccready from Pearl Jam on guitar, Barrett Martin on drums, and John Baker Saunders on bass.
I think black midi would be a good one
Rodrigo Y Gabriela.
Ty Segall!
Black midi!!!
Dwyer influenced Gizzard and Ty Segall. He was doing it first. Also please do The Brian Jonestown Massacre!!!
Great, great suggestion!
BJM!!! Yes, please!!
Get out of my playlists 😅😅😅
Michael Yonkers influenced Dwyer
i just wanted to comment the same , but you were 6 months faster :D
John Dywer is going to go down in the history book. I can't remember the exact comparison, but I remember Ty Segall saying that in "years to come John Dywer will be as legendary..." and I totally agree. His work ethic, his live energy and his guitar playing is seriously influential. He truly is a titan of 21st century rock and roll.
For sure. Definitely a legend in indie and underground rock. It makes me wonder how much more influential he would've been if he'd made the same type of music during the 90s and earlier on when rock was a part of pop culture.
I would not be surprised in the slightest. He really is a visionary musician but seems like the kind of dude you could have a drink with and not be "starry" at all. I mean, he could be the most massive arsehole and his legacy would be assured...let's be honest, he's not the most original or dazzling lyricist but part of me thinks he's more into using words as sound and not really for their meanings but his music speaks for itself.
"...as Roky Eriksson!"
@@vollsticks I remember some article interviewing on the Internet describing Dywer as the kind of dude to cycle around San Francisco and buys you a taco.
Anyway, yeah he seems to take the Kevin Sheilds approach where he creates a wall of atmosphere more reliant on the music and energy rather the lyrics ideas.
Although the lyrics to I come from the mountain are pretty damn catchy!
@@ToastersChannel yes!! Thank you. That is it! That was the comparison.
Fun fact: actually Stu Mackenzie from king gizzard was inspired by John Dwyer
Oh man, saying that Osees sounds like Gizz could start a war
This!
Swap em lol
Osees wishes lmao
@@MoonshineH lmfao King Gizz are diet oh sees, change my mind.
@@Jake-cj8yo Osees are if you replaced Gizz's talent with meth
the way you said it sounded like he was the one copying Stu Mackenzie, when in fact he invented those tricks and Stu included them to KG songs later on...
Exactly
east bay ray from dead kennedys kinda did the delay thing first.
The Oh Sees released more albums today since lunch than most bands in their lifespan.
xD That's accurate
I think buckethead is over 300 albums at this point.
@@richiedagger733 Not more? Thought he'd made close to 500 or so. Not a fan though so i'm probably wrong. When it comes to 3 digit numbers it's easy to get lost
@@LieLikesMusic could be, it's been a few years since I've looked into it. Peppers ghost is the only album of his I've really liked.
Well KiNg Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard working on taking that title for sure. Love both bands!
You meant to say King Gizzard sounds like Oh Sees
Shame
Well they do sound like each other. But clearly KG takes inspiration from Oh Sees and not the other way around. Guess i didn't make that very clear
I saw them almost ten years ago for free, didn't know them yet, and before the show started a boomer told me "I saw Motorhead, I saw The Rolling Stones, I saw every big band. Get ready, this is the most rock'n'roll show you'll ever see".
Having seen around a hundred shows, mostly punk and metal, at that time I thought "OK grandad, enjoy you rock'n'roll show"... And then they starting playing. And to this day I still haven't seen anything more rock'n'roll. It's pure energy, it melts your face off from start to finish, and the crowd instantly goes insane.
One of my best shows ever. Never miss them if they're coming near you.
I flew out to Denver to see them at Red Rocks. Absolutely the best show out of eighty or so that I've been to. John Dwyer gives so many fucks.
nice pfp
Dwyer and the Osees are an absolute monster of a band, I love how he just presents what he wants to do every time, avoiding criticism of his work by turning off comments on all their videos. It’s just a mix of punk, thrash, prof, metal, psych rock it’s great. Protean threat was my favorite album but like face stabber, orc, smote reverser, mutilator defeated at last and the new a foul form are all good they’re all different
I believe they call it “pirate punk/ sailor core
John Dwyer is so much more Influential than he’s given credit for, I’ve seen many guitar players that are influenced by his style.
Dylan Sizemore is like mini John Dwyer it’s wild how obvious the influence is!
oh sees inspired king gizz
John Dwyer of The Oh Sees wrestlers that guitar like an alligator He is one of the best guitar players out there, full of energy and vigor compared to the likes of Angus Young. Amazing dude. Excellent choice to cover!
@Jumbo Jombo 2 and he kills it. I am comparing how good of players these guys are. Age doesn't matter.
Great way of describing his live persona. He's inspiring a new generation of performers
That's a really cool comparison, because I recently heard him in an interview say that ACDC was probably one of the first artists he really had an affinity for. Haven't gotten thru the intro so idk if Lie also says that lol
One of my favourite bands! Do Ty Segall next if u haven’t done him yet
That's a natural progression from Osees, eh? Maybe i should just do all the westcoast indie rock artists now that i've started
@@LieLikesMusic Haha it went ty segall into king gizz into thee of sees for me. I went to a ty segall concert 2 years ago but i hadnt heard any of his songs yet, completely drunk and high on shrooms I went into it, probably one of the most fun shows i've ever experienced. The song The Fall was crazy good!
I agree!
I feel we could all kick back one evening and have a really genuine connection just based on our love for these few bands.
I'm so glad that you go in depth for the introduction of the band!!! One of my favorite band!!!!!
I’ve seen Oh Sees opening for Iggy Pop in San Jose on Summer 2013.
Both delivered phenomenal performances
this was kinda just really superficial and surface level, and the Gizz comparison made me want to headbutt a wall, but a good primer nonetheless.
With bands like this I almost always feel like unless I’m hearing a scholar of the group, it’s always surface level. There’s just too much.
Thats something that bothers me sometimes with Lie's videos.
It lacks deep research that some other channels do better
I agree, I was excited to see them get some recognition but now I'm disappointed. Do you know of any videos that do a better breakdown/analysis of their music?
@@tylerhowie1304 Honestly not really, I've always wanted to make one because I've been a fan of Osees for almost 3 years now and have heard all their records a few times over. That's part of the reason why they're so cool to check out: their discography is so expansive and layered that you can't just do a surface level look at it, like Lie did here. You really gotta make an almost hour long video, and even then that's not FULLY in depth.
Yeah this guy has good music taste but his videos aren't very insightful. The king gizz microtonal one didn't explain shit, he just said "uhhh yeah they use microtones" and played 2 riffs and somehow dragged it out for a whole video.
I'm honored to be included twice in the video as a voice of the people. Thanks for doing a video about one of my favorite bands. ^^
No problem 👍😊 I’m glad you enjoyed it. Any other bands you’d like to see in future videos?
@@LieLikesMusic Psychedelic Porn Crumpets is another band that I learned about thanks to King Gizzard community. Their first album especially is amazing. Dopey's Robe & Ty Segall would be cool too.
A video dedicated to Osees? Fucking legend!!!
Thanks ;) Any other bands you want to see in a future video?
@@LieLikesMusic Not sure what your thoughts are on this but one band you could do a video on is The Brian Jonestown Massacre.
Hey mate. I just wanted to talk a bit more on the connection between king gizz and ohsees. Back when gizz were just starting up, ohsees were a pretty big influence in the underground scene around where we are from. The influence definitely bled over into gizzards early work. Even onstage persona was a thing from ohsees. Later though they developed a style all their own, but did end up working with the band.
Thanks for mentioning this. I wasn't entirely sure who influenced who. But it makes sense since Ohsees have existed for a decade longer than KG.
Few of the gizz boys saw oh sees in a small venue with about twenty people. I believe it was Eric that said that was a transformative moment for them
I like this new format, much more involved
Do you think we could see a video on Van Der Graaf Generator soon? One of my favorite bands ever
I'll see what i can do. Gotta listen to them first ;)
Every once in a while, I get a bit of a Primus vibe from Osees as well
For sure. I guess that's why i dig them. Primus sucks.
what are yall smoking? primus?
Love them both, but ya'll need to broaden your perspectives if that's your connection
@@MajicFreeman Well for one, they're both Bay Area bands so there's already a deeper connection. I'm not saying they sound like Primus, but a song like Red Study wouldn't exist without Primus
Primus is an la band, osees is now too
@@MajicFreeman i noticed a lot of similarities with Primus in the Protean Threat pre-release live video from last year. If nothing else, Dwyers singing sounds almost exactly like Les at a few points
just in case theres any doubt, i love it
You are right. John its a huge example of how to be persistent, patient, and steady on working on whatever you want to do with your live. We, all emerging artist, must see his work as an inspiration and a guide of how do things to grow from nothing toa very special place in the worlds conciousness
Thanks for this video, man! Been getting into them, and dude, what an unusual group! Their sound is so unique. Aggressive and fun at the same time, and the first time I heard the vocals I wasnt expecting that tone. Pretty damn cool.
EXCUSE ME WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS MY FAVOURITE BAND
WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S SO COOL. THANKS FOR WATCHING
Do a video about the Kraut-Rock scene! CAN, Kraftwerk, Neu!, etc.
That should fit well with osees too, considering CAN is John Dwyer’s favourite band
@@thisperson6708 Thats so Cool! - didn't know that. I feel like there is also a huge influence from the stooges on their sound as well. It would be really cool to see a video on proto punk / kraut
@@thisperson6708 Nice profile pic, great record!
Also I, too, did not know that Can is JPD's fave band! Man, I scored, the cheapest, *cleanest* copy of Limited Edition a few weeks back, record and the sleeve are both NM, plays beautifully. I just love "Gomorrah", "T.V. Spot", "Empress And The Ukraine King" and "Mother Upduff" and the "E.F.S" tracks on there are really cool. For an album consisting of, basically, "bits 'n bobs" it hangs together really well
@@vollsticks YESSSSS WHAT A COLLECTION OF WEIRDLY COHESIVE SONGS! Big fan of LH 702
@@thisperson6708 (Nairobi-Munchen)!!??!! YES! I forgot that one! Stars as a crazy drum/keys-that-may-or-may-not-be-flutes, treated viola (?) and eventually bass and what sounds like "found sound"...then goes really quiet with just a slow guitar motif and bass motif? Hahah I just described most of the album! I got it on now to make sure!
What you been thinking to the Mute/Spoon coloured vinyl remasters? I was really pleased with the gold Future Days and pink vinyl Delay, they sound so good, and the fact that Irmin Schmidt is involved in the remastering, well, you know you're getting fidelity as close as they can make it in terms of verisimilitude...fantastic sounding records. Particularly pleased with the bass attack and lack of "drop off" on those remasters, from the green vinyl Ege Bamyasi to the orange Tago-Mago...they've supplanted my earlier reissues of said albums. Just so fucking good.
Ive never seen anyone play guitar like John Dwyer does. Maybe i dont watch enough performances but he stands out
I suggest you check out Omar Rodriguez Lopez from At The Drive-in. They have quite a few live shows here on YT. They have a similarly wild attitude on stage.
Found em by accident years ago, and I now have quite a few of their albums…..so unique. Damaged Bug is also a fave
I really like when you play the riffs of the songs you talk about
Osees is on a higher level than KGTLW. Unarguably
No that's not unarguable, that's completely subjective
@@vivlaughlove_ in this instance, unarguable.
one of the best bands out there today in my opinion. love dwyers guitar work.
Osees, ty segall, king gizzard fans. We must unite and becone stronger then the kpop fans
Thanks for doing a video on these guys. I recently got into both Thee Oh Sees and King Gizzard and as of this video release I have a combined 25 albums by them. As for my favorite by Thee Oh Sees I think it would be "Face Stabber". It's the first album I heard by them AND I like theirlo ger jams.
Tied for the best live act I’ve ever seen
Nice volta shirt dawg. And great vid
Recently started to get into Krautrock actually from this video because of how you mentioned Dwyer’s love for German rock. One duo in particular I’m obsessed with right now is Klaus Johann Grobe. Please check them out, it’s the perfect blend of electronic, psychedelic, experimental, and funk. Can’t emphasize this enough, they blew my mind.
Check out Baby Grandmothers and Guru Guru if you haven't heard them already.
Nice epiphone. I got the epiphone les Paul special II and I love it.
I think most osees stuff is in D standard (apart from maybe smote reverser) with the low string dropped occasionally for songs, this'd make the dream much easier to play than how you did it since you can just move the major chord shape on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th strings about instead of having to change shape
What a great video!
Thanks. Glad you dig it. Are there any other bands you’d like me to cover.
@@LieLikesMusic Thanks for asking! A lot were already in the comments, but here's some love to some new bands to me: Opus Orange, Automatic, Parquet Courts, just to aname a few.
Keep rockin' man, great job.
i love you now, probably the best live band i seen (several times) this was one of the bands that kickstarted my musical cravings back in the late 2000's
YEEEEEES THERE ISN’T MUCH VIDEOS ABOUT THEM AROUND. THANK YOU!
No problem. Any band or artist you want me to cover next time?
@@LieLikesMusic PJ Harvey would be an interesting one! Not much video essays about her either :D
hopefully someone can make a good one
no John Dwayer = no King Gizzard
I've been waiting for this one lol
Cool. Hope you dig it.
Slow and steady for Dwyer is at least an album per year for over two decades and still running. 😂
Omg I really love your videos! One can really see how much effort and work you put in! And they inspire me so much. Would‘ve loved to be a part of the 14 days challenge, but I am not experienced enough to learn the song. Please let us know if theres a Challenge for „experiencend beginners“ that can play the most important chords but aren‘t fast enough 😂🙏🏼
Thanks for your support and kind words :) You're so lucky to comment this just now. I changed the option of songs since this video was published. From now on you can learn a song of your choice (a better fit for your experience level). I left the entry open for another 24 hours, so feel free to sign up here to quit procrastinating without having to worry about not having enough time: www.patreon.com/lielikesmusic
OH MY GOD MY FAVORITE BAND ITS FINALLY HERE AHHHHHH
Love it. They have had two drummers for like 10 years, though.
can you make an Understanding on Team Sleep?
Please do multiple Steely Dan videos
YESSSS
When im pissed off and having a bad day i like to cut the amp on and boost all the gain settings and blast some coachwhips
My favorite musician of all time:)
the fact you're wearing a mars volta shirt brings up a question I've had, how does Dwyer feel about Volta? hell and vice versa?
Hmm good question. He’s got a broad taste in music from what i know. So i bet he’s listened to them.
@@LieLikesMusic i'm almost positive he would have had to give them a good day in court
Since the dawn of time, king gizzard and the lizard have be trekking through a harsh wasteland (filled with sentient computers, vultures with human remains attached to they're decrepit bodies, and melting wax the traps unwary travelers in a shell of its own self) just to find the last component to create John Dwyer.
John Dwyer helped in the creation of KG actually
a little thanks from france
@lielikesmusic, speaking of "Holy Wars", have you heard the Rodrigo y Gabriela cover version of that? Check that out!
Never heard of it no. Thanks for recommending this, i'll tune in :)
@@LieLikesMusic you know I'm always trying to stir you into the right direction with class A musicians that will make you just a better guitar player. Rodrigo y Gabriela will blow your mind if you aren't too familiar with them. Gabriela, hands down, is one of the best top 5 female guitar players for the innovative style she has created. Might not be a bad idea to cover them in one of your videos. Have a good day my friend!
@@forthedoggiesguitars2277 I'm listening to them now. I think i've heard their song Tamacun somewhere before. Maybe on Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul. The Holy Wars cover also sounds sick. I love the acoustic style and the muted/percussive style of playing. I appreciate your input :) Have a great day man.
@@LieLikesMusic yep, one of their tunes was on Breaking Bad. Their latest album, 'Mettavoltion' wound up winning the Grammy for best Contemporary instrumental album. If you check out their cover of 'Echoes' by Pink Floyd, you can see why they won. It's cool you took the time to check them; it's worth it. When I make recommendations, I make sure they are not time wasters. I would love you to do a video on them. Have a good day. Todd.
I had to fuckimg look up the day they form cause I couldn't understand him, I'm glad I did
YESSS OSEES POGGERS
Saw them live at SXSW a couple years ago, i was sitting on the stage next to one of the drummers, it felt amazing. i got tinnitus for at least a day afterward XD
I can tell that's a concert you've got burned into your mind for the rest of your life. Fantastic!
@@LieLikesMusic Most deff!, twas my first time seeing them but deff not gonna be the last!
Please do one on Opeth!
So who commits the notes to the staff? Many modern musicians don't take the time or simply don't know how to write their compositions onto sheet music in the language of music theory. So who or what puts the notes of those riffs to the musical staff? Is it a person or is it software? If so, what software program is it?
A person with a software, probably Sybelius
Cool Death of Island Raiders blew my mind, it was like the soundtrack to a fever dream. Imagine my delight when I found out all the rest of their massive catalogue was just as good.
Finally!!!!!!!!
I would absolutely die upon seeing “Understanding Brenden Small”
LETS GOOOO
Bro, te lo diré en castellano. Thee Oh Sees inspiró a Stu y al mundo de King Gizz.
oh sees, king gizz, slift. the holy trinity
Dont sleep on Ty segall ;)
Do Lightning Bolt, please!
Super jealous of that Mars Volta shirt lol
12,000 scrobbles in Last.Fm - yeah, I think I quite understand OCS/The OhSees/Thee Oh Sees/Oh sees/Osees
i hav around 20k,i think i need a bit more to be sure
I stopped the video when he mentioned how their sound is similar to King Gizzard. King Gizzard is similar to Oh Sees. That is like saying the Beatles sound a lot like the Monkeys.
Do Placebo
Oh you gotta do a video on Sheena Ringo sometime! She us a excelent musician with a great artistic vision! P.s. not sure if the spotify account shown in the video is yours os from the editor ahahaha :P
Speaking of Holy Wars, video on Megadeth?
I had 3 copies of Orc and repuctantly traded one when I felt that was maybe being a hair excessive.
Nice video btw, thank you.
10:24 Dippety deep dap dop! A video about Be-bop and scatting next?
Be-bop is a little too far away from what i'm already doing. Thanks for the idea though hehe. Be-bop guitar perhaps
If you think the albums are good, check out the live performances.. the album songs are basically templates for improvisation and they are almost always better live.
The shortlived pink and brown was amazing. Lightning Bolt inspired them!
Dwyer is a right madman. The O sees have always been great, but they've never been better than at the present moment
You should do a video on ASIWYFA. They hella underrated
Lie Bro, Smote Reverser and Henchlock have to be the best OC albums haha, I like all their stuff, but them two albums are real gems.
Protean threat is really good too. But I consider those two to be there opuses
t amoo
Fuck yeah 🔥
UNDERSTANDING AMERIC ANFOOTBALL
They’re great! At least the first album
Best band currently
which song is at 3:00
Thumb buster
Music 🎼 🎶 🎵 question what is runtime in music like Jonathan Miller music told me that runtime starts off at 0:00 and finishes when the music 🎼 or audio is completed can you please do a RUclips video that focus around runtime on music 🎼 and also can you also please do a RUclips video on album 💿 single and ep definition because what Jonathan Miller music told me that a album is a collection of audio recordings issued as a single idem and has 7 song 🎵 and has 25 minutes in runtime songs can be more than 7 song 🎵 and be more than 25 minutes in runtime but album has be be more than 30 minutes to be count as a full length album.
Its a little introduction. Doesn't do the giant rabbit whole justice that is thee oh sees though. They are a hit or miss kind of band. If you have to ask why they're great you will never understand.
Now I'm figuring out the effect of my obsessive music playlist hording. It starts with me finding this video. "Osees" I thought sounds so Greek mythology, I'm interested. Alright, cool story good music, let's play their spotify populars. Ooh I like this one, glad I checked them ou... wait, I know this song. It's in my playlist. I've know about this band for 2 year already.
That's what you get if you just drop things in a playlist and don't investigate further. Great video. Lie!
Haha. I find myself in that situation so often. People ask if i’ve heard of this or that band. And then i say: “no”. And then they put on the music and i realize i’ve heard their music here and there for years. Average week of a music nerd i guess 😅
You do realize Oh Sees were a big Gizz influence, right?
After 100 comments of people telling me this… maybe? 😅
John dwyer is a legend
John Dwyer used to listen to metal, he used to like metal. Sure, he liked The Misfits and Black Flag and other hardcore bands, but... to say that metal wasn't cool is disingenuous. I know, I was there. We were listening to Metallica, Flotsam and Jetsam, Voivod, Metal Church.... Danzig (where do you think he got the haircut?). I introduced him to The Can, so you got that right...he was and is a big fan. But he also listened to a lot of Pink Floyd and the early Floyd sound is instantly recognizable in a lot of his songs, especially Syd Barrett era Floyd. An influence many probably don't know about is Thin White Rope, they were in heavy rotation in those late 80's, early 90's days; along with a great deal of Skinny Puppy. John has had a lot of influences, and if you listen... you can hear them. Tell me if you can hear Blue Oyster Cult? :)
Are you the individual responsible for the smoking sentinel incense collab w/ Dwyer? If so, I was fortunate enough to secure a box, wonderful stuff! 😌
Typing of metal, I'll be seeing Mercyful Fate and Kreator tomorrow evening. Later in the week, Osees--always such a pleasure. I definitely hear the Syd Barrett era Pink Floyd influence, which I do admire. His solo material is great too, Madcap Laughs stays in rotation. Also, thanks for introducing John to Can. 😄
@@celestialgutter Yes, I did collaborate with John on Smoking Sentinel! Very glad you enjoyed it!
pretty sure JPD just uses D standard tuning always.
Dude you kinda messed up with that part 'bout Gizz
Everybody knows that they took a lot from Osees, especially in their early days
I fuckin love both bands btw
Got the absolute shit kicked out of me at an Oh Sees show. It was epic.
....watching them play on pool tables for a stage... thats how I understood them
Mark Linkous, please 😭
that sheena ringo album tho
DO BRIAN JONESTOWN MASSACRE PLEASE!!!