Bandsaw onsite - a surprising success...
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Hi everybody. I’m playing with the feel of the channel this week (‘braaaanding’ lol!) changing the look of a few things, tidying things up. It’s still me, and the content won’t change - down-to-earth woodworking projects, quick tips, client work and the odd tool review - but like changing a hairstyle, or buying new clothes, there’s no harm in a bit of experimentation now and then. Let me know what you think.
In this week’s quick video I’m doing some work a client has asked me to ‘fit in’ around a kitchen I’m fitting, and bizarrely, it makes perfect sense to take a small bandsaw onto the jobsite; enjoy!
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Aldi bandsaw - goo.gl/BpaVhN
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Scheppach bandsaw - goo.gl/HI8kAI
Bahco 6” combi square - amzn.to/2oumhX4 (US: amzn.to/2ouSg9k)
Festool PDC 18 - amzn.to/2qKiqGo (US:amzn.to/2ruCf8B)
Spade bits - amzn.to/2qKoRcq (US: amzn.to/2siF1Mr)
Festool Quick clamp - amzn.to/2rudPMw (US:amzn.to/2sie9vH)
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It's all about context..and regrettably easy to judge. Really enjoy your contributions.
+chevyimp 👍
When you say cabinet installs are boring you forget most likely many of us have never done it or have done it poorly and would enjoy seeing it done the correct way. I myself have done a few and always ran into problems that I had to solve on my own. I've seen many video installs and learned something from every one of them. Thanks for the video.
Ed Floody And thanks for watching. To be fair, when I said - as an aside - that this job was a bit boring, I really meant *this* job, not installs in general. There's literally nothing much to this one - the cabinets are pre-made with the doors hung and drawers installed, so other than shuffling them into line and hanging the wall cabinets, it's been a bit of a yawn so far. The most interesting part of a kitchen from a woodworking perspective is usually the worktops, but these are all solid-surface, so out of my hands. I've done cut-outs in a cabinet back for the water connections, and I had to jack the integrated fridge-freezer up by a couple of inches so the doors would align, but with the best will in the world, I don't think I could spin that out into a 10-minute video, lol 😂
I may yet shoot some odds and ends on this job, but as an overall install, it really is very straightforward - so far, anyway 😄👍
Peter I enjoy your video’s. I always have my table saw in van but hate getting it out because of the sheer weight of it. A couple of years ago I bought an ALDI bandsaw. Never used it lol, for 6 months it stood in my workshop idle. Then a job came along, I had to make some panel supports for a P shaped bath. The customer didn’t have a proper panel so I fabricated supports from 6x2 .....it cut it easily. Put one under lip of bath and a matching one on floor, then cladded with 200m/m wall cladding, cuts in rear face to get round radius.....looked great. I could have used a jigsaw but the bandsaw gave a really good result. So it now spends a lot of time in the van going to different jobs...it’s very handy. Regards Brian.
Cheers Brian! 👍👍
I have the same saw, same clamps and same problem with the skirting, now I have the solution thanks for sharing
You're right, some tradesmen don't give a toss. But I must admit that my OCD would have had to fettle your insert for a more aligned fit. That's an unscratched itch now 😄
I don't even have ocd and was not happy with his fit. should of left the bottom bit that broke off out of the equation.
What I like about your videos is that they're authentic, mistakes are shown, such as the work piece being unsecure (sic) when using the spade bit and the skirting board piece breaking in two. I would have used a dovetail saw or even a coping saw but getting the cheap bandsaw into a project is what you wanted to achieve and succeeded, a little bit different and your casual matter of fact manner is easy to watch and listen to. The point that I took from the video is that a bandsaw can be portable and could used for more challenging aspects rather than just a small section of skirting board.
I commend you for even replying to the sanctimonious knob heads who feel a compulsion to piss on bonfires to give themselves a sense of self satisfaction and importance. The points they may could be better raised in a less knob headed way imo.
Keep it going, nice to have a British accent to listen to and using metric when looking for hints and tips.
Thank you! Yes, I realised a bit late that I could have used a handsaw, lol - but as you say, I got a video out of it, and to be fair the little bandsaw was all shiny and new and itching to be used 😆 And hey, sanctimonious knobheads are just friends I haven’t met yet 😂 👍👍
NIce job. That size bandsaw is extreemly versatile for small jobs. Well done.
+Badger Woodcrafters Thanks! Yes, very handy 👍
Hi Peter, I bought that bandsaw after watching your video on it. My existing, bigger bandsaw started giving me trouble and I needed something quick. What a marvel, does 95% of my bandsaw work and it is much better quality than the price suggests. I am finding the thin blade that it comes with, more than adequate for now. Thanks for videos, they are very entertaining and you are sharing some great ideas, not least what you can do in a small workshop.
Glyn Davies Hi and thanks! Glad it worked out for you - I'm very happy with mine, haven't even changed blades yet! 👍
I must say the first home my wife and I purchased I was strongly against but with fresh love in the air and an I can do anything attitude I bit the bullet. It never ever ceases to amaze me how hard someone will work to hide shoddy work when half the effort will correct the problem. An entire upper half wall tiled with mirrors to hid a big blow out in the wall or a drop down ceiling to hide the 3 foot by 3 foot hole in the middle of the kitchen the inspector missed. Or the fact the moron soldered bare wire off the lights on the porch and just shoved the ends into the outlet. How he survived 35 years in that house I'll never know. Said he cleaned the fire place in the house before we moved in, I opened the waste gate in the basement to find out his idea of cleaning was pushing it down the "magic" hole in the fireplace and never cleaning the clean out LOL. I remember that guy fondly. Great little bandsaw for on the job.
+patw999 👍
Only just subscribed to your channel watched a few videos and they are great keep them coming. It's great as you are dealing with real world things that we can all relate too with tools we can all own. Not making a really fancy workbench with expensive planers, cast iron table saws and loads of hard wood.
+chris13a1212 Cheap and Cheerful, that's me 😂
It really is amazing what some 'tradesmen' are happy with, those notches are ridiculous. The annoying thing is, they would have the piece to put back in, but just didn't bother!
Oh well, it's sorted now :)
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Hi Peter. Thanks for yet another informative video. Remarkable how folks condem the use of a power tool over a a manual hand tool yet will happily use a car or train rather than walk or rig up ye ole horse and buggy. Each to their own I suppose. For myself, having taken up the craft very late in life much prefer the ease of power tools, and would rather pay a younger lad to do the lugging. Here in South Africa, a generator is always necessary so power outages not too much of a problem.
I have a small edge sander, not as cheap as your bandsaw but portable and ideal for getting perfect fits.
Nice job Peter....have you thought about using forstner bits for that type of drilling job ?
+Brian C Must confess, I haven't; they'd probably work really well, thanks!
I'm (self) building a house with the help of some talented people, and one or two folk who simply couldn't have cared less . We're just about ready to first fix. Only one tradesman has resisted the temptation to be critical of previous work. He has a mantra ' ... I sell my ability to compensate for previous errors. ... ' You rarely know the conditions under which the previous work was done. Short of video evidence or time lapse images it's minefield that I'd prefer to avoid. An appropriate retainer is a sensible way of coping with the problem.
You’re right Ian - I don’t know the conditions that the job was done under, - other than what the clients told me, of course, which was that the guys who sanded the floor did them a ‘deal’ to also fit the skirtings. As I say, I’m always reluctant to comment on other people’s work, but there’s no denying the shoddiness of the job as it was left.
Having only recently found your channel I'm binge viewing. I know it's a bit late but a 20 mm hole-saw may have been a better option to fit the piece of skiting around the pipe. Don't ask me how I know. ' - )
Always a bit of a challenge when repairing another trades messy and incomplete work.
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i had some wood filler in my house that hadnt even been sanded and grout that came out and was replaced with caulking and skirting boards that dont go together and a door that wont close properly...
+GeorgeS Sad state of affairs, isn't it? 👍
Nice little fix-up, btw where do you get those cool work pants? 👍😎👌
+George Stephen Thanks!
There should be a link in the video description, but if it isn't listed the there's a full list of 'stuff I use' on the website - www.10minuteworkshop.com
They're TuffStuff Extreme 700 - haven't seen them outside of the UK though.
Interesting option Peter. I'd have used a sharp hand saw or jig saw, and crept up to the line with a belt sander clamped on the bench. Nice outcome. Infinitely better. Surely doing something like that is part of the job of 'fitting' skirting boards?! What was the rest of the job like, mitres & scribes etc?
+Graham Orm Hiya. Yeah, could have done it with a handsaw, but I’d just bought the little bandsaw and it was really light, so,I thought I’d give it a go. Apparently they were a couple of guys who did the flooring, also did the skirts - not great tbh, I’ve worked my way around most of the ground floor putting a few things right... 👍
Would you consider doing a build video on the site workbench?
+Bulwul That's going to be part of my 'tracksaw workshop' series - I need to make a new portable bench anyway, so might as well try and improve on it! 👍🍻
Hi Peter. I saw your battle-scarred MTF top abnd was thinking about comments you made recently about the cost. ave you seen the New Brit Workshop Parf Guide System so you can replace yout top for the price of the MDF.
I also like your mini cross-cut guide. I saw another one (much bigger) from a young american. If I remember who I'll let you know.
I'm enjoying your videos and will be making a wardrobe to fit into a dead end corridor. Much food for thought already.
Thanks
Stephen
Stephen Shipley Hi Steven, and thanks! Yes, I've seen Peter Parfitt's guide system, very interesting. TBH though, with the relative abundance of CNC machines around these days, you can get a top machined for not much more than the cost of the MDF anyway. Incidentally, the top in this video is just on a little portable workbench I made when I was first starting out - the 'proper' MFT doesn't leave the workshop. Let me know how you get on with your wardrobes 👍😀
Great looking band saw I'm really interested in getting one as the price is really cool,I was just wondering as I'm a bit of a hobbyist and I wanted to know can I get a metal cutting blade for this band saw? as I need to cut 10 mm aluminium sheet,also is the speed for cutting metal to fast?
+Gareth Keith You can certainly get a blade suitable for metal, but I'm not the person to ask what's suitable for 10mm ally I'm afraid. Have a chat with Ian at Tuffsaws (link in the description) I'm sure he'll advise 👍
do you have a video for the work bench you use?
The portable bench? No, but it's due for replacement so that will be documented, for sure 👍
Very good and handy channel.
Where can I buy a pair of pants like yours? They are super!
Thanks a lot
+Alejandro Zitle Thanks! Full list of 'stuff I use' at www.10minuteworkshop.com. Work pants are Toughstuff extreme 700, only here in U.K. AFAIK. 👍
Great job ! It looks worlds better ! Are those marples chisels? And I have a site bandsaw , it's a Milwaukee cordless type which is great for notching and trimming. Now you have got me addicted to woodworking I went into my forge last night and made a chisel , yet another for the collection. Great job!
Thanks! No, they're ancient Stanley chisels, had them for years.You know, I've seen e.g. Jimmy DIresta using a cordless bandsaw but always for metal - never occurred to me that you could use it for wood, duh! 👍
Peter Millard yep I brought 2 and took on apart and then on my lathe and mill I made some new gears for the gearbox to speed one up so it's great for wood .
Sounds fantastic - did you do a video on it?
Peter Millard sadly not but I try to video more jobs like that now. 👌
👍 My one regret about doing youtube is that I didn't start posting regularly, sooner - there was about a year that seemed to slip by, and I did so much really interesting work in that year that would have made great videos!
Hi Peter, great video again, can you tell me the name or brand of your set square? I've seen you use it in other videos and it looks a quality tool ,
Thanks again Steve
Thanks Steve. Old vid! There are links to most of the things 'used / featured' in the description of each vid, btw. the combi square is by Bahco - Bahco 6” combi square - amzn.to/2oumhX4 (US: amzn.to/2ouSg9k)
Thank you Peter, i asked two questions in one day , binge watching again, lol😂😂
Hi me again, just found all the answers in the links below video , thanks again, Steve
Good job as usual and nice problem solving. God is in the details...at least in UK as it seems from video ;).
Btw I am looking for a nice little guy like yours but just crappy things here, as usual when i need a tool it is or in UK or in USA... :((((( cya soon on lineu know what I mean, I took your hint ;)
christian buzio Thanks! And I look forward to it - let me know when your channel is up & running 😀👍
Hi Peter, who did you watch to set up your Aldi bandsaw... I keep putting the blade on, turning it by hand and it keeps slipping off the wheels... I adjust it one way, it slips off the bottom wheel, adjust the other way and the blade get stuck between the wheel and the spring on the top tensioner bolt 🤔🙈
Hi Mark. Mine came pretty much set up and running straight out of the box - blade attached and turning nicely. All I had to do was bolt the table on and square it up, put a little more tension in the blade and that was it. I usually recommend the Alex Snodgrass videos on RUclips for bandsaw setup, as they’re so thorough. I did have a similar query from someone who bought the Aldi one recently and had similar problems with it - they returned it as faulty and the replacement workers straight out of the box. Might be worth bearing in mind, rather than spending an entire weekend trying to get it working?? Let me know how you get on 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you for the reply, I will keep that in mind. I'll spend 1 hour with it and see how I get on then, if no joy, I will then return it, thanks again
Mark Pearson No problem; I mentioned it because it has come up a time or two with this current batch of bandsaws, and I know how frustrating it can be trying to set something up that just won’t work! BTW, did the blade come fitted to yours, or was it something you had to do yourself? Thanks! P
@@10MinuteWorkshop it came fitted, I looked at the tension and tightened it up, the spun it by hand and it come off the bottom wheel, so I thought I would ask in case I missed something
That's crap that the installer didn't replace the piece as you did. Whoever was running that job should have addressed the rads though. When someone shows up at a specific time to fit material often they cannot wait a day or more for a plumber. But Peter your fix took more time in the edit room than it did onsite 👍🏼 enjoy your vids know what you mean about a vanilla cabinet fitting.
+Stephen Gilbert Thanks!
Hey Peter, enjoyed the format change/trial :) It def is portable enough to carry about - have you you just stuck with the stock blade? Best Tom
Thomas Kitchin Hi Tom. Thanks! Yes, I'm still using the stock blade, seems to be working just fine for the relatively thin stock I'm cutting with it. Must order a couple of spares though 😀 👍
Ive been swamped so only a quick test but very impressed! Ill pm you about this weeks bargain basement purchase ;)
Same here - and please do! 😯
what are those bench clamps called that you're using?
mIkeY j They're called a quick clamp, or lever clamp. There's a link in the description to all the gear used/mentioned in each video. 👍
There are slightly cheaper options of the same thing from Axminster. I'm still saving.
For any of you now wanting to buy or see Button-fix we do have stockists in lots of countries outside the UK as well as in the UK. See our where to buy page button-fix.com/where-to-buy/
👍 Great product, link in the description of the relevant video, here:- ruclips.net/video/v6FJgray9zw/видео.html
Thank you Peter
can you make up kitchen cupboards with a bandsaw like new fronts
If you have one big enough, probably, but it’s not really the tool for the job, if I’m understanding you properly. 🤔
hi @@10MinuteWorkshop .so you couldnt saw a square out of mdf with a hand saw or jigsaw and clean up the edges on a bandsaw then a kitchen door isnt that big really i would think.so bandsaws are for cutting balsa wood then..
@@darren990 Not at all. Like I said, if you have one big enough i.e. depth of throat, size of table, then yes, you could - but it's really not the tool for the job. There are better ways of making those cuts e.g. a track saw or table saw, that would produce a much better finish.
oh ok peter i see@@10MinuteWorkshop
Now if you where a little closer i would help you out Peter ,thought you would put the hole out of the bottom of that piece sneak up on it ,then under fill the hole with painters caulking ,its wonderful stuff when you frame in a door level on an uneven wall ,makes it all look good , i dont work with other crews coming and going ,seen to many tools go for a walk ,and we all know there nothing worse then buying a tool to do your job better and some smuck figures he needs it .Looks great
,how are them corner cabinet doors coming...lol
syd ascott Haha, thanks - my guys would jump in if they were asked, but the client's determined to use 'her people' . Oh, and I'm very familiar with caulk 😆 but all the decoration is being handled by another outfit and they didn't want me interfering - suits me 👍
Well i just thought bandsaws out ....fancy woodworking ...lol its ok im pulling out the scroll saw later today but im not gonna say what for ....lol
syd ascott 😂
An upside down portaband clamped in place is also pretty nice. So it occurs to me that you could use a spindle sander mod on your drill for molding round profiles. Mirock uses them to great effect. Thanks for sharing.
+Gareth Dirlam 👍
Hi, Peter. Saw your shop tour video and didn't see any handsaws. A fine tooth handsaw should suffice for the task that you demonstrated. Don't you have a coping, backsaw, or a ryoba?
Another thought, don't you have a Festool oscillating multi-tool? Assuming you have a proper blade that would also have done this task.
+Kam Leo To be fair, there's a point on the video where I say "... or I could have used a handsaw... didn't think of that.." so I covered that one on the video in realtime, lol! Yes, I like Japanese pull-saws, but no, I'm not much of a handtool guy - not an actual crime last time I checked 👍
+Kam Leo I have the Makita multitool, it's OK, and it would absolutely do the job. But the bandsaw worked well, it's small and light, and I had a *lot* of these to do...
See video title...it isn't RYOBA at the JOB SITE ;)
Seen it a lot of times Peter. What other "Craftsman " think is good work . LAZY !!
Ian Rose 👍
Do you also make kitchens?
MyBeomaster901 I'm happy to make what people want, but most of the time, in my experience, most folks who think they want a bespoke kitchen are generally well served with off-the-shelf. But always happy to discuss. 👍
This is it - DIY creators: ruclips.net/video/JN2ynUdyPS8/видео.html
It was better but he has re-produced it, replacing the enthusiastic chat with music. Such is life.
I worried about you running that big paddle spade bit on that small piece of work like you did. You've got to do what you've got to do though. It might have been a good job for some wooden handscrew clamps with blocking in them? With those you can look like a real old time cabinetmaker. There's still jobs those wooden clamps excel at. Like using them as drilling vises. I have cheap import pairs of those wooden clamps and they're top notch. It is not something worth buying the premium models of. I've never found my bargain ones lacking.
+Paul Frederick Thanks. As you say, you have to use what you have; spade bits were what I had 👍
First thing I'll say is that the plumber obviously didn't ask what height his brackets should be at - either that or the skirting was chosen later and is just too too tall to fit correctly beneath the rad. A minor detail, I know, but nevertheless the devil is in the detail. That (original) notching is just plain awful. Far better (originally) to have drilled out two holes in a length of skirting at the right heights/centres then carefully slice the skirting (at a slight bevel angle) through the holes and rejoin the lot on the wall. It just takes a bit longer.
Skirting was fitted after the rads - not by me; like you, I know how it should be done 👍
Find it hard to believe you lugged a bandsaw to site to make those cuts ... a fine toothed dovetail saw or a small douzuki would have done the job in seconds ... another casualty of the modern affliction where if it hasn't got a motor in it or a"Fusstool" sticker on it it can't do the job ... would love to see how you get on when you've just got everything set up for the day and the 'sparks' turns up and cuts off the power for four hours , guess you just scratch your head for and hour the go home in a sulk ... !
steveward53 Well, to be totally fair, I do say at ~08.56 "...or you could use a handsaw... didn't think of that..." - but maybe you didn't watch that far, lol! And FWIW it's a tiny bandsaw, no real 'lugging' involved - feel free to check out my "Cheap Bandsaw" video for more info 👍. But no, I'm not much of a hand tool guy - not an actual crime, last time I checked. Thanks for watching, and commenting; always good to hear what folks have to say 👍
Fully agreed. A fine toothed dovetail saw weighs about 200g compared with 16kg of band saw and would have been much faster for this, all things considered. Then again, it is good workout ;-) and I take it was done to show how portable this Aldi/Scheppach band saw is.
hackneymarshes actually a fret saw would probably be the best tool
The benefit of hindsight......
If you're going to the trouble of putting in that filler piece, you should take care to ensure that the profiles match. Your piece is a mm or two too high--almost as bad as the original hole.
Also, there's no cut you made with the bandsaw that couldn't be made with a coping saw.
so how come you fixed an error in someone else's work but you also made an error, it doesnt line up!!!!
I gave you a thumbs down because, whenever anybody says "I'm not one for criticizing others", and they then follow it up with "But", you know damn well there is a criticism following. I thought this was a bandsaw review
+wayne bartlett The bandsaw review was the previous video 'Cheap bandsaw - worthwhile or just a waste?' This was about the benefits of being able to take a small bandsaw to a job site to fix the unholy mess that someone had left behind. Serious question; if you'd paid good money (4-figures!) to have skirting /baseboard fitted throughout your home and it was left like that, would you really not be critical of it? Would you just shrug and live with it? And for the record, I'm pretty sure I say "I don't usually like to criticise other people's work because you never know the circumstances in which they were done... but this is a shoddy job regardless..." Thanks for watching.
If I had paid good money to have a job done, and, was unhappy with the end result, I would have demanded that whoever was responsible come back and rectify the problem, or, reimbursed me the cost of any subsequent repairs required. I have always found it best not to be judgemental about someone else's work, especially in the public domain, you may think what you like, but be very careful about what you say !.