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Coraline: The History of The Other Father | Horror History
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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The history of "The Other Father" stretches much further back than the existence of Coraline's real father... Find out how in this video.
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We do not know the true name of the creature that is referred to as The Other Father, and we can really only speculate on it's origins. What we do know is that it predates The Beldam's manipulation of The Other World to make it look like the ideal version of Coraline Jones's home.
The movie leaves hints about how The Other Mother controls The Other Father, but in the book, author Neil Gaiman leaves behind more clues about the creature's past that were too dark and too scary to be included in the adaptation.
In this video I'll be exploring and analyzing the entire terrifying history of The Other Father, how it came to be associated with The Beldam, how it took on the appearance of Coraline's real father and the horrifying and sad fate it suffers and devolving into a true monster.
We'll also explore possible theories about it's former life, Coraline's scary underground encounter and much more!
This will cover the entire known history of The Other Father in Coraline from its messed up origins to its lonely fate in the early 2000s. Please note that this will only analyze the creature as it is written in the book. I will show clips from the 2009 movie, as a visual aid, but for the purpose of Horror History, the book is canon!
#Coraline #TheOtherFather
Chapters
0:00 | Intro
1:48 | How Did The Other Father Get To The Beldam's World?
3:23 | Becoming Mr. Jones
4:05 | Hints From The Movie
5:18 | Strange New Behavior
7:27 | The Horror in the Cellar
About Horror History
Horror History is a series that analyses specific characters, monsters, places or events in the fictional worlds of your favorite horror franchises.
About Coraline
From Henry Selick, the visionary director of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS,and based on Neil Gaiman's best-selling book, comes this spectacular stop-motion animated adventure! Coraline Jones (Dakota Fanning) is bored until she finds a secret door and discovers an alternate, better, version of her life on the other side. When this seemingly perfect world turns dangerous, and her other parents-including her Other Mother (Teri Hatcher)- try to trap her forever; Coraline must use her resourcefulness, determination and bravery to escape this perilous world- and save her family.
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8:35
"so sorry"
"mother's making me"
"I don't wanna hurt you"
honestly makes me really sad lmao
Same here he was really trying to warn her
Gives key
No
There has ro be something more intriguing
omg I love ur hawks pfp
RIP Other Father. He was a good father.
He wanted what's best for her 😭
CZsWorld oh hey recent comment!
He never wanted to hurt her, RIP Other Father
In Soviet Russia, Piano plays Me! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was another victim of that monster, just like Coraline and the other kids.
In the song that the “other father” sang to her, he tried to warn Coraline about the “other mother”.
Sam Guerra yeah .. I saw that in an already made video ...
Ya it is
I made 2 comments about the song what it's means yea pretty clever that was a warn to Caroline
@@memequeen8572 0
No shit
I like to think that when the Other Mother was creating the Other Father that she accidentally allowed him to care too much about Coraline. The Other Mother knew that what Coraline wanted was parents that cared about her and had more time for her, and while her real patents did care they were always busy in the film. When the Other Mother created the Other Father she made sure that he would make him care as much about Coraline as he could. The Other Mother was only ever putting on an act about caring for Coraline but because the Other Father cared so much for Coraline he would have been able to do anything to help her escape. This includes the warnings in the song, trying to hint at what the Other Mother was planning, and even resisting her control to help Coraline gather the souls.
That's a good theory, but I have to contradict your idea about the other mother. She does actually "love" the kids, but in the book it's described as the way a miser loves money, or a dragon loves its gold. And in both book and film, the beldam does seem genuinely excited to play games with Coraline, since Coraline is the only other person there. The cat even seems to have that idea, since he thinks the beldam wants something to love that isn't herself. I think it's comparable to a farmer loving its cattle. They take care of them, play with them, but when the farmer needs to eat, he has to slaughter them. The beldam also tends to go many years inbetween kids, so she likely gets incredibly bored inbetween and wants to have fun with the kids before she eats their souls and as the ghost kids put it, she grew bored of them and locked them away
@@geddyw that dont love thing is kind of a nitpick
@@tealluma6528 I'm not nitpicking, I'm pointing out the layer of depth behing this charavter
I agree, she (The Beldam) made the Other Father and Other Wybie to love Coraline, but she made them love Coraline more than they feared her.
Yeah I think that might be true thats a really good theory
All I could say is that the Other Father TRULY loved Coraline.
Yeah! He did loved caroline alot.
Yeah.. He didn't deserved to die..
The sad thing was that he was just an illusion to lure her into the other world......
True... This kinda make me wanna cry tho- lmao
Yeah....
RIP Other father and coraline have mercy and avenge the other wybie and the other father😢😢
And at the end of the song, he says “Our eyes will be on Coraline.” Him and the Other Mother have button eyes, so he thinks their eyes will be on her.
It's also a possible reference to the dolls the other mother uses to spy on the children, as in she's literally "keeping her eyes on her"
buttons on her
Max S ‘button in the eyes’ is one of the lines
The other father and widy been trying to warn her
ur likes are at 666- sorry not changin it im too scared
I like to think that other father was one of the dads of the children that were killed my the Beldam. he might have followed his kid into the other world, witness his kid dying, and then the Beldam trapped and used him to form the dad of the next kid to come through the door, but even with the Beldam's control within him, he still tried his hardest to warn and save the children that would come, without alerting the Beldam, as he could not save his own kid.
:0 I hate that so much that I live for it.
So crazy it might be true
poor dude
We would've seen an adult man's soul in the prison along with the children. Unless if the beldam only feasts on children.
That's what I thought too!
I'm just gonna say, this channel does not have enough Coraline videos!
tru tho
Ok
Maybe once I have 30 that will be enough Bryce.
@@CZsWorld It will never be enough.
👍
Beldam: Love coraline
Other father: **loves her too much and ends up helping her**
Beldam: ...
*listen here you little shit*
JAHSJSHAHAHAHAHAHSHA
Best comment by far
Beldam: Now here’s the rules…
STOP WITH THE SECRET SHARING YOU LITTLE SHIT
ABHAAHHA
😂
There no comments it’s very dark and empty here,I’m scared
Mom, pick me up
Hi CZs world
@@CZsWorld I'm scared
@Banuner BAHAHSHAHAH
@@CZsWorld Pick me up mom
Honestly I haven’t seen this film yet, but just seeing the song he sings for Coroline makes him my favorite character in the film
Fun fact, you can watch the full movie free on RUclips
Yep, right here ruclips.net/video/r8wKYScJLrM/видео.html
The voice actor is the lead singer of the band They Might Be Giants
@@lilscruffyofficial no way, that's awesome
Taylor Joseph fun fact they might be giants did the hot diggity dog song that plays at the end of Micky Mouse clubhouse
Can we talk about how Other Father is the only one who tried to resist the Beldum and actually help Coraline?
Cause that is VERY strange.
The other Wybie tried to help her too
Oh wait I just remembered Wybie wasn't in the book 🤦♂️
It’s because(while the beldum was only pretending to care for Coraline) the other father truly loved Coraline, because he was made to.
I think he was right about the corpses cause it makes sense and where else would they be it’s such a small world
So did the other wybie
1# [other] father award
He was honestly the best part making a song to warn her and helping her throughout the movie
the last aid he gave to coraline was handing the eye to her before falling to the water. that shows how much he wanted to resist to save her from the beldam
I want him to get into real world fr 😢😢😢
I think the worst thing the Beldam did to the other father was making him say that he was starving twice.
Oh damn
wait I don't get it, why is that bad?
Why is that bad?
Explain?
@@lonefoxcub I think they mean that the other mom doesn’t feed the other father so he’s been hungry
Also, in the song, I noticed that he said “Eyes” three times, foreshadowing that he wants to tell Coraline about the three ghost children and what the Beldam has planned, but again is restricted by the Beldam.
(Sorry if this has already been said in your videos!)
I think that's just a coincidence.
ahem
“she’s a cute little button in the eye”
“Our eyes will be on Coraline”
*i don’t remember the last one ;w;”*
-----Bon Bon----- actually, “she’s as cute as a button in the eyes” has two times it says “eyes”
“She’s as cute as a button in the eyes who ever layed their eyes on Coraline”
Oh my god I never realized that 😮
Smart. I never payed much attention to that. Thanks for pointing it out.
It’s 2 hints of the other father’s creation
1. When Coraline first cross into the other world , the other mother says “ will you go fetch your father? I bet he’s hungry as a pumpkin “
2. When the other mother is in her real form & after the other father tells Coraline there’s only 1 key , other mother says something about the garden needing tending pumpkin .. He then sings “ squish squash , pumpkin sauce”
I quickly made connections to the Other Father loosing his glamour and becoming a pumpkin to Cinderella's carriage after midnight: Once the glamour begins to wear out, the carriage becomes, well, an ordinary pumpkin. When the Beldam's power begins to weaken, so too does the illusion she created for Coraline. It seems the movie version of Other Father was just another of the Beldam's creation, when in the book he has more to his character like you said here.
In the movie both Other Father and Other Wybie seemed to have minds of their own, probably to make them seem more sympathetic to Coraline, but this came back to bite the Beldam in the butt, since that made them want to help Coraline and not just be "bait" for her. Both were destroyed for their efforts.
That's a really cool interpretation, especially because Coraline is often considered a modern fairytale. Like alot of the older ones, it features a young protagonist, surprisingly dark elements for a children's story and a moral lesson, in Coraline's case 'Appreciate what you already have' as well as a bit of Stranger Danger
That is pretty much why in the film the Other Father and the Other Wybie are the only two creations who have the ability to stand against the Beldame. The Other Father was made to be as loving and caring as Coraline's actual father as was needed to convince Coraline to stay, and the Other Wybie was made to be a close and personable to Coraline as a friend could be. They were made to be close to Coraline in ways that Spink and Forcible were not, same as Bobo if there ever was anything of him to begin with instead of a mass of rats. Those two/three were meant to be just simple entertainers for whenever Coraline was around. Their simple order was "be entertaining," not "be loving/caring." The Other Father and Other Wybie were made to be caring, so while they were simply puppets that the Other Mother could pull the strings to make them do as she wanted, they had a directive to keep Coraline safe as they could barely manage, even at the cost of their own "lives." The Other Wybie got Coraline out of the Other World the first time to save her, and the Other Father broke control long enough to give her the first soul so she could have a chance to escape. Both acts of rebellion that ended with them paying the price.
That is a really interesting idea! But since I’m into Marine Biology and horror, and I think blob fish are terrifying, that is what I saw instead of the pumpkin, but now I see both! Also, I kinda believe that the dead boy had a sibling, so maybe that sibling grew up traumatized living in that house, then one day that sibling went inside that door and the Beldam did not know what to do, so she ended up making him the father, and as she lived without eating souls for a while, the sibling ended up turning into Blobfish Man!
1st
One of the things I noticed when the Other Mother was trying to get Coraline to have buttons in her eyes is when the other father and her are showing off the colors the buttons can come in. The other mothers eyes flash pink, pink meaning adoration and love. The other fathers flash orange, meaning warning
Whoa, that’s so crazy!!! Could just be a coincidence but I love that!! Great catch!
And the buttons nearest Coraline flashed chartreuse. Which is a yellowish-green. And yellowish-greens mean ilness and decay. Fitting.
Other Father's horror history was the one i was excited for the most.
can we get history of Overlook Hotel next tho 👀
Oooh that's a good idea!
@@CZsWorld lol
Do the cat pls 🥺
Could you do a history of the ghost children?!!!
Perhaps
@@CZsWorld or The Cat
CZsWorld pleaseeee do so!
@@elevenhopper2570
You are in for _quite_ a treat, my friend. :)
@@etps4444 yayyy
Well in the film, the filmmakers described him wanting to help Coraline a design flaw by the Other Mother. She made him genuinely love Coraline as a father would, and the same for Wybie as a friend, so they were willing to give their lives to see her free. It also seems in the film that he is not mentally controlled or pushed by Other Mother either, and that he has to physically be controlled to not say or do something against her will. I hope if not a sequel we get some form of lore expansion for this universe and how the Other Mother came to exist in her pocket reality.
Why is NOBODY saying anything about his sick new hair do? Love it!
First place I'm going after COVID will be the barber.
Is the barber named Edward? Haha
@@CZsWorld noooooooo! Not the barber 😕
He looks like 2010 Neil Cicierega and I love it
@@mikaroni_and_cheez I'm lovin' it
A pretty cool sequel idea (even tho this film doesn’t need one) would follow an older coraline (maybe a college student idk) keeping up with house (she could’ve moved out a long time ago) making sure the beldam is truly gone. But when a new family moves in and their child or children suddenly goes missing, coraline returns to the house to finally defeat the beldam once and for all. A cool idea would be that the beldam was waiting for coraline to return to get revenge on her since she’s the only one who got away
she finds the hand while she’s visiting the house?
That actually sounds really cool! :o
That sounds call
when the beldam dies, the world is going to need a new beldam, my theory is that coraline will be the next beldam. its all in some 2 hour theory I watched and u should too
@@raffy4560 link it fam
Rip the other father and Wybie, they were good characters. 😭
Either way they had to die.
Other wybie not original wybie
Wybie meet other Wybie the better you
Other father sacrificing himself to give Coraline the first soul/eye still makes me sad
Yeah 😭😭😭
I'm so glad you made this video. I have an obsession with Coraline and I watched all of the theories and videos about Coraline I could find. I don't know how many times I rewatched yours. So thank you, now I have another video to watch wkjdjwjwi
Glad you enjoyed it! 🎃
i honestly think they should make a sequel film too this
If they did I'd like it to be Coraline as an adult, coming back to the house to find the hand has escaped.
I think Coraline is better as a stand alone book/movie.
@@mr.person4050 Same. I feel like if there was a sequel, it would probably be trash (or at least not as good as the first).
A pretty neat sequel idea (even tho I believe this film doesn’t need one) would be that coraline is now much older and doesn’t live in the house anymore (she could’ve moved out at a younger age) and she’s been keeping track of the house to make sure that the beldam is truly gone. But when a new family moved in and their child goes missing coraline would come back to truly defeat the beldam once and for all and save anyone else from ever meeting her. And it would be a pretty cool thing that the beldam actually wants coraline back seeing as how she’s the one who got away from her
They can't do that because one of the directors of Coraline died of old age.
When I was younger and first watched the movie I thought the other father was a villain too. But looking back at it he only wanted to help Coraline even if he didn’t have the bravery to do so. He is probably one of my favorite characters now!
Never thought id see someone explain Coralines 'other father' as 'superior' and a 'chad'
I love how the Other Father did everything to help out Coraline. Made her a warning song, told kind stuff to her, showed her the beautiful garden with things coming to life, trying to tell her something urgent when Coraline's trying to escape, and gave her 1 of the Ghost Eyes. Sure, he's creepy later on, but it shows that the Other and Real Father DOES 1000% care about Coraline dearly. In the real world and the Beldam world.
This makes a lot of sense
He's great on piano too!
So is this some type of purgatory lets find out
For real
I just watched the movie, I wish they can make a new Coraline movie where she grows up and the other mother comes back
That's my exact idea for a sequel.
They should definitely have Wybie and Coraline move into the Pink Palace (maybe they're married) because Wybie's grandmother passed and we get to see all of the tenants rooms.
@@bee4598 I would see my ship sail ! :D
So, what was the cat? Who was the cat?
Next Coraline Horror History?
@@CZsWorld Yes!!
@@CZsWorld
Yeah! It would be interesting
The cat is verman even the other mother is scared the cat is more powerful than the other mother
A cat just wandered in I guess. The Beldam must have been hungry.
“I’m sorry..mother’s making me..”
That hurt me because the other father was actually a good person😞
R.I.P. him
True
R.I.P Other father 🥺😞😭
Lowkey sad he died, he gave me relief from everything scary with the Beldam when I was 4
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU
Hope it's worth it!
she’s a peach she’s a doll she’s a pal of mine she’s as cute as a bottom in the eyes of anyone’s who’s ever laid there eyes on corallineeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
love it
1:05 *are ya winning dad?*
notice how the handle was one of the ghost children eyes so he broke it and said "take it" as he was falling at 8:41
yeah
8:05 That voice work for the Other Father's warning is pretty good
The other father’s “true form” low key looks like a pumpkin
That's the point hun
That’s because he is a pumpkin
He is a pumpkin. Or rather was. Hence why he wears orange and the other mother’s nickname for him is pumpkin
It looks more like a garlic clove thing to me
He was a pumpkin in the movie but something else in the book
Respect for the Other Father. He truly did love Coraline and knew that he couldn’t, but still tried to help…RIP a legend. He deserved better.
I enjoy how the other father cares for Coraline and wants her to survive. I also like how Coraline cares for the other father and tried to help him. If you think of it to hard it’s actually quite sad.
He warned her through song in the movie and in the book he says it straight up. What a good father.
2:54
Weird. Usually, under the coat is a stack of kids, not *rats.*
The dad looks like a pumpkin to me and the two ladies look like taffy, especially since they had all that taffy in bowls. So the Beldam possibly just uses them as vessels to give life to?
Makes sense to me, and in the book instead of pumpkin he's bread dough with elements of a grub and instead of taffy they're bug cocoons which those are probably just as common things to encounter in the beldam's lair
The video I didn’t know I needed, thank you CZ
I didn't know either. I wasn't planning on doing any more Coraline videos until people were requesting it!
@@CZsWorld awesome, it turned out very well, I like the new style of transitions btw
Ok I’m a person who loves horror movie lore but is also scared of horror movies. This channel is awesome because I can get the awesome lore without the nightmares so thanks CZsWorld you make great content.
honestly as I kid I was Horrified of Coraline and I think I still am.
It would be creepy to see what the Other Mother/Beldam was doing while Coraline was interacting with the Other Beings.
RIP other father, best character
A moment of silence for him.
the fact that he tried to warn and protect coraline, but was forced to try and hurt her makes me sad.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO ALSO CAN I JUST SAY I LOVEEEEE UR CORALINE VIDEOS AHHH!!!!!
Thanks El!
@@CZsWorld omg u replied fjfhejejfjejejdebjd
5:50 when the ad on tv comes at the worst times
Has anyone ever told you that you look EXACTLY like a human version of Alexander from Where The Wild Things Are???
This man is a wizard. The other day I'd gone through and watched all your Coraline stuff and now you post this.
Other Father is lowkey the best character and nobody can tell me otherwise
It always perplexed me how the other mother was even capable of making a life form so advanced, to the extent where it would and could go against her, even if it was in a subtle way. Like, she controls everything in the other world, yet the other father is very obviously trying to warn and help Coraline, and doesn’t actually want to hurt her. I just always was like... how was that even able to happen?
She's probably at the same power level as a demigod
0:50 did any one see the hand?
I honestly love this series because only CZ is the youtuber I respect that also loves Pendulum. Cheers, man!
Dude, I've been listening to the new Pendulum tracks so much. I'd love to see a new album.
Just watched Coraline yesterday, and I live for these videos😍🙌🏼
"She's as cute as a *button in the eyes* of whoever lays eyes on Coraline
👁️👄👁️
omg
The "Other Father" warned Coraline in a song so that the Beldam won't suspect a thing but it worked too well and Coraline didnt suspect it either.
His second warning was when he was in the piano room after "The Other Whybe" is gone, the Gloves controlled over him.
Beldam: wants to kill coraline:
Other father *helping coraline*
Beldam: you bout to be pumpkin pie...
Can we get a R.I.P. for the other father
How do you create such seamless backgrounds for horror history? Seriously they're amazing!
I don't know if you've noticed, but this is something I've been interested in since I was a child. When we see Beldam, she is wearing a black dress with something that looks like polka dots, we can see these dresses in her final form and menny others. When she turns around, for example, when they walk with Coraline back to the house when she returns from a visit to the theater, we can notice that the dress has something that looks like the end of a spider (if you know what I mean, please corret me. English is not my first language) is various characters such as the black widow and like others.
Hey i noticed that too🖒
OH MY GOD! You included some of the points I sent to you! I included the point where he asks "who's hungry?" And then the piano raises his hands. Thank you so so much!
Before the movie to me was not that scary but now I hear all this backstory and theory it's really giving me the chills
CZ, could you do a history of the ghost children? They were really cool in the books and in the movies. I just love their voices too. “Taint all bad, Miss. Thou art alive! Thou art still living...”
The other mother’s Karen haircut feels like they predicted from 2009, the rise of the karens
I was heartbroken when he died. He truly loved Coraline so much.
Please please do 1 about the cat. Love these history videos.
I'd love to see more of this universe and world. There is just so much mystery and unanswered questions, it makes me want to know and see more of it lol. I love the movie, I definitely need to read the book.
The other dad was honestly so Nice and wholesome
This is my favorite movie of all time. I read the book a long time ago and I bought it last year. The other father seemed important but didn’t have as much alone time with Coraline which makes sense since he is heavily controlled by the Bedlam. Hope he and other wybie have some peace away from her now.
He said eyes 3 times in the song. Probably referencing to the 3 ghost children...
The other father... Bless him 🥺😭
I wanna point out that he doesn’t just call coraline a button, he says “she’s as cute as a button in the eyes of anyone who ever laid their eyes on coraline”
He literally brings up the buttons in the eyes
The other father is such a comfort character, he reminds me of my dad. Except my dad didn't turn into a pumpkin And has button eyes.
I know he hasn't done this yet and I hope he does. I'd love a things you missed about Constantine. And would absolutely love a horror history on John Constantine.
Nice suggestion! 🎃
I WOULD LOVE THIS SO MUCH
I’m obsessed with this videos and there’s no explanation to why... the other fathers song slaps though
What if sewing the buttons onto people are her way of controlling them? Think about it she wants coralines body to create more illusions for more children and it seems the only way other mother wants coraline is with buttons. Even after other father was found in that room he was still under her control because of the buttons
omg
true
Bro this movie is coming back into theatres near me next month, and I am so excited to see it.
At 4:50 he says “our eyes will be on Coraline” I always thought he was talking about putting buttons in her eyes.
maybe he was saying they’re watching everything she’s doing
@@moviestargf ooo yeah that’s a good idea! I didn’t really think of it that way
Also the part where he said "Our eyes will be on Coraline!" That is a reference to how the Beldams eyes are on Coraline through the doll.
This makes me want to write my book “Portals” even more. Like- y e s.
Please do that cat next? I'm really curious about the black cat and why it can only talk in the other world and not in the real world.👀
Coraline is one of my favorite child-horror movies, it creeped me out since I was young and it has continue to irk me the more I learn about the creation of the movie, the book and what folklore is known or tied to them. The book is specially fantastic, and if you hear it narrated by Neil Gaiman himself? brilliant!
my friends always told me that he used to be a pumpkin but the other mother brought it to life and it makes sence to me kind of
Hey can you do one about ms enforcible I think that’s how you spell it and mr gavinski
If people want to see it, I'd be open to it.
And because of you I read the coralline book
Ikr
Am the only person who actully cried when the other father died/drowned? Even though he looked like a pumpkin later in the movie tho-
I think that you should make a video on the past of ms. Spink and ms. Forcible because they are my favourite characters in the film and they are so mysterious!
The other father is my favorite character
What also gives away that the father was native to that world was that he apart from coraline was eating the food meaning he belongs in that world and can eats but the other mother is not from their so she the beldam doesn't eat
7:32 nice work 47 find your escape route
10 exp silent kill
I have been blessed with more Coraline content
Thank you 🙏
The Other Father was one of the only things beside Other Wybie that wanted to help Coraline against The Beldam
No wonder why we didn't see the dad at the beginning of the movie the real dad not the other one 🤦🏼♀️🤤 I wonder what happened to the other father he was so nice and protective over Coraline trying to save her 😍
to me the distorted other father is one of the creepiest things in Coraline
I've been waiting for this one FINALLY
Hope you like it!