Coraline was kinda insane
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Alex if you haven't tried it yet you have to make their couscous and parmesan chicken. Easily their best meal
You forgot to include the cat voiced by Keith David, aka one of the greatest voice actors ever!
Hey Alex! Love the video. If ya enjoyed the stop motion claymation movie there is another one called box trolls that I found really interesting as a child! Would love to see a video about it.
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Fun fact: the book almost wasn't published. His editor said it was going to traumatize kids, so he asked her to read it to her daughter and see if it was too scary. The girl said she was enjoying it every night, and they got through the whole book and she said it wasn't scary so the book was published. Many years later, Neil got to talk to her about the book and she said she was absolutely terrified the whole time but wanted to know what was next, so she lied because she was worried that they'd stop reading the book if she said it was terrifying. The book got published because a kid lied about how scary it was.
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sneek 100
if that ain't serious dedication idk what is lol
I love Neil Gaiman lol
WE LOVE HER FOR LYING ❤️
I think the most terrifying scene is when coraline is finally getting back to her regular house, and she is desperately trying to crawl through the bouncing tunnel, and the other mother is banging on the little door behind her, each time she does getting closer and closer, literally warping the fabric of space to get closer to coraline every time she bangs on that little door
Legit, like, even after all these years and I've grown up and actuality started to like scary stuff, that scene still disturbs me whenever I see it!
Yeah, and what adds to the terror is that she's shrieking things like "Don't leave me!", "I'm going to die without you!", like she's still so desperately trying to manipulate her.
The most terrifying one for me was when she was counting for coroline to apologize and got taller and taller i still can't watch that scene
@@maggieskr5299 no but cause literally she's about to die
@@thelittleprince7072 coraline*
The story shows how abusers, manipulators , and predatory people operate in a very impactful way.
In the theater incthe dream world It gets pretty sussy
Once you put the other mother next to a real life pedophile you start the see what the author was going for 😮
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@@81Xx_demonwhisperer_xX18 The show girls show their chest almost all the way
After watching the movie quite a few times, I think the message is more about perspective. Coraline sees her life as dull and gray because she’s in an unfamiliar place with neglectful parents. But it is clear a lot has happened to wear them down. Moving, trying to get work done, and even a car accident. It took me forever to realize her mom’s turtle neck was actually a neck brace. And with the state of their fridge, it’s clear they’re really tight on money too. That’s another reason why they were so laser focused on the catalogue. Coraline didn’t really see any of this though. She just saw her parents ignoring her. She was looking at the surface. Just like she did with the Other World. But once she looked closer, she realized it was all fake and twisted. So when she comes back to her real life, she sees what’s beneath the surface. Things are pretty good. Or at least they can be if she approaches everything more positively. Which is what she does. She is friendly to her neighbors and helping her parents with a smile. And the garden they are planting is the same one shaped like her face only not as bright and extravagant. It shows that everything she loved in the fake world could be achieved if she helps to make it happen. If she chooses to see all the good in her life, it can be just as fulfilling and magical as the Other World. Only this time, it’s real.
so well said.
damn u should write a book cuz i want more of this
One of the best comments on this channel
@@Nunyabusinesssa thank you!
I loved reading this comment
It’s quite telling how Wyborn is supposed to be a goofy name when this released, but in 2022 I can imagine a lot of parents naming their child that
I’m pretty sure it’s a reference to the character not existing in the book. He was created in the movie so that Coraline would have someone to talk to and interact with, instead of just monologuing the whole time
@@neflufv6392 yeah I think it's that plus the last time I watched the movie I think he was neglected/not wanted? Idk I watched it like 5 years ago
People who are becoming parents in 2022 grew up with this movie so I could 100% see that.
It’s a Norse name
@@kytheres379 norse deez nuts
Coraline advocates stranger danger mindset in kids better than any PSA.
Imagine being in Coraline and being like: I think we need a bomb to destroy that thing
why kids these days should be watching sonic says…
@@GeoZatGoat thaz no gud
@@nyew_thrizz it’s YOUR BODY! Nobody has the right to touch you if you don’t want them to!
"if It bleeds, we can kill it"
i read the book when i was 8 or 9. didn’t really understand it, but it was still pretty scary. reading it back, movie coraline had it EASY. book coraline didn’t have wybie, she was basically facing the other mother alone with nothing but her wits, a semi-helpful cat, and a little rock with a hole in it
Fun fact: My sister went to collage where Coralline took place once her and her boyfriend drove by a big pink apartment complex and they both said ‘isn’t that where coralline lives?’ So yes, the Pink Palace actually does exist but no one lives there (it was based off the apartment complex) but it isn’t called The Pink Palace. It’s a very cool town loved visiting her there! Oh right…the cult there…if you go downtown and see people wearing all white *RUN* .
Where is this at?
Wait…. There’s a klu klux klan where coraline takes place?
Not moving in threre not getting buttons in my eyes
@@LilBettaFishthatcouldAshland, Oregon
@@HannibalTorranceHELL NAHHH 😭😭 it was this cult thing that sells stuff, like normal ass tea for $100 claiming that you’ll life will be perfect after that or smth like that
Other Father apologizing over and over for hurting Coraline before letting her take the eye will always fuck me up, I tear up a bit every time because the implications that he has no free will, knows he is doing bad, doesn't want to, but has no control over it is chilling. It's honestly such a short scene but it's super impactful and it's stuck with me since I was a kid.
Yes same. So glad u mentioned this
If you look close, you can see the gloves that helped him play the piano earlier in the movie, now forcing him to attack her on the meca-mantis.
That scene is much creepier in the book. The other father is this misshapen clay person in the basement and Coraline has to get the eye from him. He's fighting the urge to attack her but in the end he lunges at her as shes climbing up the ladder. It was really well written and super stressful
That scene really freaked me out.
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Cinema Therapy does a great job at explaining the difference between her real parents and the other parents. She feels neglected by her real parents, but at least her life is safe. Not to mention, the neglect isn’t really permanent. It’s a stressful time, just moved, having a deadline. How they treat Coraline throughout the movie is just a small reflection on them throughout her entire life. The other mother however uses Coraline being upset about feeling neglected to get her to trust her. The other mother is a pretty good representation of manipulative parents, being so sweet and giving their kids all they can want so when it comes time to the abuse, the kids feel conflicted. Yes they hurt them but, they also do all this awesome stuff for them. They are blinded by the attention they don’t see the danger.
Oh my god another Cinema Therapy watcher!! I love them!
I was going to wrote something similar but you beat me too it. They did a really good job on it
Yes! I was so excited to see that both Alex and CT reviewed this movie around the same time!
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT! Glad to see another fellow Cinema Therapy watcher
YES a cinema therpay watcher! omg i love this
I legitimately loved this movie as a kid. I loved the scary and macabre my entire childhood. My mother's always said they should have named me Wednesday. My church hosted a trunk n' treat for Halloween one year and I volunteered to help at one of the games stalls. They asked us not to dress TOO scary since we'd have a lot of very youngins, so I dressed as Coraline, so only children who enjoyed scary things would really get it. I remember hearing this tiny child's voice behind me go.. "Coraline?" And she asked to take a photo with me. Couldn't have been more than 10. It's a fantastic movie. And book. It may not be good for every kid, but I feel like we should be less reserved about showing children non-gory non-sexy things. I wanted to watch a lot of thrillers that just weren't feasible for my parents to show a 10-year-old.
I can't believe he didn't show/talk about Bobinski when he just kind of turns to sand and is controlled by mice. That was one of the scariest parts of the movie for me when I first watched it.
The reason there aren’t more stop motion films is because they take literally years to make. Every second of the movie has to be reset 24 times. Stop motions animators are icons. They put their blood sweat and tears into those movies.
A lot of stopmo films don't shoot 24 frames per second, why often gives them that unique feel. That morphing from the Other Mother to the Beldame though... Laika's team did such a fantastic job, I can't imagine how difficult it must have been
Shit, I can't even imagine the work they put into making these. I adore stop motion animation so much, I'd like to personally hug each and every person who does this. They put so so much time and energy into making this thing that I love so much 😁
I once did a stop motion paper animation with my friend and it took us three days to finish a whole two minutes 🙃 it was hella fun though
@@kb-ih7ni 3 days for 2 mins? Man thats fast
and is that a BTS reference or is it a actual saying
A lot of people were confused why they needed to sew the buttons into Coraline's eyes, couldn't the Beldam just eat her now? Well children, have you heard the phrase "The eyes are the windows to the soul"? With the buttons sewn in, they can act as a doorway so the Other Mother can slowly drain her life force.
That is dark and banana sorta beautiful.
thats so smart
Well said.
...I still don't get it
yes i think it is also used as a "permission" thing, so she feels more wanted as a mother
I watched this in the cinema when I was like 8 and when it ended I remember not being able to unclench my jaw or my hands that were clawed to the couch out of sheer terror. I had watched horror movies before, but none of them messed with the most sacred thing to a child: your parents and the safety they give you.
I love Coraline's parents, they're very real depictions of overworked, stressed-out parents trying to make ends meet. The fact that people even today are debating whether they treated Coraline well or not just goes to show how well-developed they are.
"All Coraline had to do to solve all of her problems was to wait three days"
I think THAT'S the point.
100% yes
It's not a bad moral actually. Look at history and how many times someone messed up things even more by not simply not waiting for the right time.
God bless everyone.
Yep, especially since her parents aren't trying to be mean, they're just stressed from the move, having no money and trying to get their catalog done so they can afford food. At one point there is literally just mustard and salsa in the fridge. They're stressing hard. Once their work is done, they do a near 180.
@@SunnysFilms Even before the end I got the impression the mom looked a little sad about having to push Coraline to the sidelines
@@hrb9679 Exactly. They didn't want to ignore her, they just had to choose between paying attention to her and finishing their work so they could get paid enough to feed her.
Something most people miss, we never hear the Beldam/Other Mother's real voice. Even when it drops the shape of Coraline's mother it continues to talk in her voice. Imagine as a kid this "imaginary world" version of your mother with button eyes turning into this Slender-mom spider-fae-demon thing but your mother's voice continues to come out of it.
Ikr
I don't think that was the other mother's last true form.
@@ernestomiloli8414 the mid form
This fact is accompanied with the intro sequence. The song that plays is mostly a male vocal from the start but neat the end it becomes a female voice as the Coraline dolls nears completion
@@seraphimwolf238 I always thought the male voice sounded a little like Coraline's dad but who knows if that was intentional lol
One thing I don’t think people talk about enough is that even when the “other mother” transforms into her real form she stays with Coraline’s moms voice instead of changing to her own.
Just think about how horrifying that actually is
RUclips PLEASE DONT TAKE THIS DOWN
To be fair to Coraline’s parents it’s strongly implied that they usually are fun, loving parents it’s just that their lives are currently going through a rough patch that they need to sort out
What’s it like having the same name as me?
@@jonasadams3173 Jonas isn't that unique of a name to never meet a person with it.
@@alexf225 they never said that. They just noticed the person had the same name and commented. You know you don't have to put your two cents in everything.
@@alexf225 Calm down, mate
@@jonasadams3173 You two are... The Jonas... Brothers?
Coraline is a brilliant example of how animation is severely underestimated. Animated movies are nearly always written off as being "kids movies" and people don't think twice until they actually bother to watch the film. Especially Stop Motion Animation which almost always gives off an eerie yet beautiful vibe. From Nightmare Before Christmas, to Corpse Bride, to Coraline, stop motion is basically kid-friendly horror films. It's wild.
It's because of movies like those and anime that I grew up loving animation and everything it could do. Much more than live action imo.
Nightmare Before Christmas was the least scary movie. Corpse Bride was somewhat funny. Coraline was probably made by some kind of chain smoking psychopath with a literature degree.
Funny enough, the Nightmare before Christmas was made by Henry Selik, who then created Laika, the animation studio that made Coraline
All the films listed were produced by the same type of writers. They write toned down gothic pieces aimed at children
All Tim Burton films, by the way.
I was 9 and saw this in theatres with my younger cousin and my grandma. I was petrified once things went dark, AND here I am 23 years old and watching old scenes from this movie still gives me physical tension and anxiety. The nightmares I had after that movie I was traumatized for so long :(
Honestly, this movie is a prime example of why children's horror is so fascinating.
Most horror tends to lean on death and gore, some giant monster that wants to eat you or whatever. You can't really do death in a kid's movie, so you have to come up with a workaround, which inevitably leads to a threat that's infinitely more fucked up than just getting stabbed in the woods
That movie traumatized me when I was 6.
10 years later, I still don't have the guts to re-watch it.
Back when I was 7 had an animated film where 3 characters sing about blowing up santa and losing pieces, boiling him to death, and chopping him into bits.
The director would then go on to make Coraline
I love NBC too, I've been obsessed with it all year! Dressed as Jack the other day and just put up a poster last night
It's not even that scary lmao
Same, though I did finally rewatch it two years ago, and yes, I can see now, that this movie is actually really good
Same.
There is a theory on it actually. One that I fully get behind. Namely it's that everything was shown from Coraline's prespective. Her parents weren't actually that mean to her, she just saw it that way. They were busy and she, being a child that she is immediately misinterpreted. They were shown bland and one dimensional like "she just hates gardenwork" or "dad is just always listening to whatever mom said"
But after she returns from the other world her perspective on her parents change and we see what they are really like. It's a movie about valuing what you have and not taking things for granted.
At least that's how I see it
Great theory!
I like that theory!
BUT'S THAT'S JUST A THEORY A FLIM THEORY
I was borderline terrified of Coraline as a kid
Just enjoying this again before youtube “death at the door” memes it.
Same
Fun fact: Coraline was originally going to be live action, but they changed it to claymation because the talking cat they said with too scary. The cat, not the imagery of real humans having buttons for eyes.
I’d be TERRIFIED To see the Beldam
It would be creepy & hopefully they won’t be making a live action film after so long
Of ALL the possible things that could be too scary for it to be a "PG" live action movie...THE CAT?!
Interesting fact though this is not claymation, btw are you sure it wasn’t cgi ?
Imagine if they had been in charge of Hocus Pocus or Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
Coraline's parents aren't necessarily bad parents who hate their daughter, they're just stressed because of work. They're trying to meet deadlines for their catalogue and they're in the process of moving into a new house. I get that asking your child to leave you alone is harsh, but trying to get work done when they want you to entertain them is just going to distract you and lead to mistakes. Coraline's life definitely seemed bleak when I saw the film as a kid, but now as an adult I recognize that they're all going through temporary stuff and we've just caught them at a bad time that makes them seem like worse people than they are
Not to mention that I believe that they were also frazzled because the mother got into an accident. It is referenced in the movie and I believe she is also wearing a neck brace in the beginning (maybe throughout the whole movie but I'll have to check).
I completely get that but I dont think that should give them the excuse to neglect their child. They should still take time out of their day to be a parent. Just my opinion though
@@ItsFunnehCake how to tell somebody doesn't have kids ^^^
It's not that easy
Yeah, I mean while Coraline herself isn't bad or anything she's kind of impatient. Then goes to the alt-world and it seems like everything she ever wanted...but too much of a good thing and all that. Not to mention it all seems wonderful but the world only goes to like the edge of the yard/garden. It's a limited world, for all the "greatness" of it by appearances. And yeah in the end the parents reach their deadline and now are free to have a little fun. They weren't even all THAT bad. Maybe a bit too focused but circumstances and all that, still not that bad. I always took the meaning, if anything, was about Coraline learning some patience. And realizing that while sometimes her parents can be a bit too work focused, it's not that bad nor that all consuming to her life, and just have some patience, it'll be fine.
@@ItsFunnehCake It sounds easier than it is. When you have a deadline for a catalogue that, at what point, is totally deleted (the father when Coraline turned off the power) and due in a couple of days along with having no food and having to pay possible hospital bills after an accident Coraline played a part in, being an entertainment centre for your child would only pile onto the stress. They aren't neglectful, but they also aren't perfect, nor are they abusive. It is shown that they clearly care throughout the movie; they're just really stressed and busy, and Coraline, as a child, does not understand that. Hell, even *I* didn't until I grew up. I always sympathised with Coraline until I realised how hard having a job and deadlines were, on top of raising a kid and paying for food and bills.
I vividly remember watching Coraline when it came out when I was about 5/6 and it felt like a fever dream honestly
5:06 im probably one of the first to appreciate the little squidward painting thing
"Bold and Brash."
" *MORE LIKE BELONGS IN THE TRASH!* "
The reason the story is so frightening is actually explained in the book's epigraph. I don't have it in front of me so it's not a direct quote, but the gist is: "We do not tell children stories of dragons so that they will know there are dragons; we tell them stories so they know that the dragons can be slain."
That just gave me goosebumps.
Dayumm
Basically what a lot of older fairytales are like.
“Fairytales are more than true. Not because they tell us that dragons are true; but because they can be beaten.” -EK Chesterton
Got out the book. The direct quote is "Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
I kind of thought the message was obvious, and I love the way this movie does it so that my kids seemed to get it. It's a "don't get in the stranger's van just because they offer you candy" sort of message. The first time we watched it, even in the beginning when she first goes to the alternate world my kids were screaming "don't go back!" because even when every thing seemed good there something feels off about it. This movie is amazing at conveying that message.
I think it also kinda has the message about being patient, Coralines parents are genuinely good parents they’re just going through a really difficult time and it’s important for kids that age to be reminded that it isn’t the end of the world when stuff like that happens
But maybe that’s just me
I think it’s more of a “be careful what you wish for” movie
@@jonasquinn7977
Probably it's some of each. Like, just because you're parents aren't perfect and you're frustrated with them doesn't mean you should let yourself get groomed by strangers or something.
@@laylamastella9764 yeah
That and that reality (even if boring and disappointing) is better than the promise of happiness and perfection. Normally, manipulative people thrive when the victims have insecurities or their lives suck, because it's easier to get their trust by giving them what they're lacking. Over time they'll show their true colours, so it's best not to fall for the "too good to be true" act. Life and love aren't perfect, so it's important to teach kids that even if mommy and daddy don't entertain you all the time and life gets a bit boring the older you get, if someone who has no flaws appears with the implied promise of making your life perfect again... be careful.....
quickly before it gets sent to the shadow realm
Enjoy the last time we can watch this masterpiece 😢
Why?
ALEX WATCHING AN ANIMATED/STOP MOTION FILM??? But honestly coraline was definitely a cinematic masterpiece! Everyone who worked on it deserve every ounce of appreciation💗
Absolutely
i mean hes reviewed MLB before but also yeah coraline was amazing tbh
@@cottoncandye MLB?
@@cottoncandye i totally forgot abt that! Sorry!! 😅
@@phoenixdzkMiraculous Ladybug
Coraline's parents are actually very realistic and not even bad parents. They are super busy and once they meet their deadline, they are more available. This is told through Coraline's perspective, but her parents really do love her and care. I agree with a few other comments, it's a stressful time.
Wybie was a character made just for the movie as Coraline in the book is basically alone and that's surprisingly much scarier, so they did try to tone it down a bit..but Neil Gaiman really did write quite a terrifying story
@nyxishere And it's clear to see they aren't very well-off. So maybe that's why they care about their job that much, they need to make it work so they can afford things like new gloves for her. Unlike the Other Mother Coraline's actual parents can't give her tasty roasted turkey for every dinner. They hadn't done the shopping in a while. And when clothes shopping they were in a second-hand store. These are things once you notice them it makes more sense. What parent wouldn't want to feed their kid delicious food and buy them a good pair of gloves? But some just cannot afford it.
It also is inplied in the movie that there was an accident so besides moving they also have to deal with medical bills. And in coralines perspective the bills aren't a big part if the story. She's just a kid and wants to play and have attention. But from the parents perspective they need to work to get money so they can live and eat
I think this video just captures coraline really poorly. There's so much more to it and he got many things wrong in this video. It's nice to see people are still watching it for the first time but people have already analyzed every frame of the movie in the past 13 years
The reason Wybie was put in the movie was so that Coraline would have someone to talk to because, unlike in the book, you can't hear her thoughts in the movie.
What no it's not about them not having time, it's about how mean they are. It's totally fine to say "honey i'm busy let's talk later" but why tf do you have to be so fucking mean about it "uuuugh stop pestering me you little bitch"
That's not how people in my family talk to each other no matter how busy 😅😅😅
i was absolutely obsessed with this movie as a kid. maybe to a weird extent. id watch it over and over and try to memorize every single frame. then i saw like, the behind the scenes DVD where the writers and creators explained how it was all made and i thought i had just struck gold man so i started watching THAT over and over and over. then i excitedly showed it to my cousins and all of them were scared shitless of it and i, as a 6 year old got a stern talking to from my aunt. yep, good times
Commenting my condolences before this gets taken down😭💞
Alex I am so excited you did this movie! I worked on it! Can I share some fun facts?
1. All the knit items were hand knit! The gloves were about the size of a pinky nail! They were made by a woman who specializes in hand knit miniatures, she uses little tiny needles to knit!
2. The movers were designed off of Pixar founders, one of which who passed away, as a tribute to them
3. During one of the scenes where the jumping mouse squeezes under Coraline’s door in the real world, if you freeze frame, you will see a tiny poop squeeze out of the mouse’s butt! The animator snuck that in as a gag!
4. The cherry blossom tree flowers were made of popcorn!
5. Majority of this movie was handmade or rapid prototyped, but vast majority was all handmade, every single little detail!
This is awesome! I love this movie and these facts are super interesting. Thank you for sharing! 😊
(Also super cool you got to work on such an incredible movie!)
I love this movie, thanks for having a part in making it.
Amazing! Love this. Thanks for the intel info :)
Wow! It must be so cool to work on something that is so iconic
That is so cool! The amount of effort and attention to detail that went into this movie is just incredible!
I think the point about Coraline's parents isn't that they were bad or neglectful. They were just really busy and Coraline was an impatient 11 year old who wanted all their attention right NOW. She didn't understand that things can be hectic after a move and it would get better. Her parents were just frazzled and needed time to finish adult stuff.
yeah, and the other mom was manipulative, giving her all the attention and stuff she wanted, but only to get her to do what she wanted.
Yeah, not to mention they were on a short deadline (and we saw later that Caroline probably accidently erased some of thier progress when she turned off the power), and were short on cash. I know what it feels like to live in a house with two working parents and going hungry some nights, this ain't abuse. It's a family doing the best they can
Yeah I thought the moral was just appreciating the family you have. Everyone’s parents have good and bad parts, but don’t focus on just the bad so much you need to escape into an alternate spider reality
Another youtube channel Cinema Therapy actually discuss that point. I would highly recommend you check out their video on it.
Haha I was just about to mention CinemaTherapy. Yeah, they talked a lot about the dangers of over indulging in fantasy even when reality isn’t that wonderful, tactics used by manipulators, and also just the difficulties of being a child and wanting attention that your parents can’t always give you because life is busy.
Alex as a minecraft youtuber would actually be kinda sick
Watched it before but watching again before RUclips removes if!
12:34 in case you didn't notice, they were neglectful because they were stressed with deadlines. throughout the movie, you can see them working on it. they couldn't unpack and just went straight to work after moving houses, the mom nagged the dad to finish his work during breakfast, you see the dad dropped off to an office for their catalogue before going uniform shopping, and so on. they're clearly stressed over a deadline, hence why they didn't have time for coraline (especially the mother, making her more snappy). once the deadline was settled, they clearly had more time for her, hence why they became nicer. it makes sense that this was their turning point.
Not only that but I think it was mentioned that they got in an accident and you can see that the mom has a neck brace on
Yeah they weren't mean in the book, just busy and practical
I highly recommend watching Therapist Reacts to Coraline from Cinema Therapy because their approach to Coraline's parents is so hilariously different than Alex's.
There's also the fact that it looks like Coraline's mom is wearing a neck brace for most of the movie. So like, she's probably also uncomfortable and sore on top of all that
There is absolutely not enough stop motion films out anymore, watching how these movies are made is incredible and such a testament to art and patience and I think that's one of the reasons Coraline will always be such a great film.
Granted, they take a whole lot of effort and Laika is the most sought after studio for this sort of animation. Can't pump out too many movies and keep the quality! They have done some nice gems over the last few years, and I'm really looking forward to their work with Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio.
A new one is coming out soon with a black lead. I believe on netflix its supposed to be spooky too
Dont read my name😑...
@@bigspiderpapa3458 it’s called Wendell and wild
They just take really really long to make
LIGHTNING STRUCK OUTSIDE MY WINDOW LITERALY DURING THIS PART AT THE SAME TIME 2:46
Here before RUclips shuts this down 😭
Edit: RUclips STOP PLAYING WITH MY FEELINGS 😡
im jus now realizing how manipulative the other parents were. the whole world seemed to be better and coraline was given everything she wanted n they made her feel like she could trust them and she was “loved”, with manipulators, its almost always a moment where they ask u to do something thats either uncomfortable or something you wouldnt even consider doing, in this case it was the buttons they wanted to sew on coralines eyes. and ofc when this moment happens, you get that gut wrenching feeling where u think “i no longer feel safe” which coraline did get. classic manipulative tactic is: “Ive done all of this for you, and you cant do this one thing for me”. brilliant👌🏽
That's basically the message of Coraline, beware of Manipulators, if something seems to good to be true it comes with an trap. The other parents basically just want to manipulate her into doing something she doesn't want (getting those creepy buttons as eyes), so they or more so the "other mother" love bomb her with attention, food and everything Caroline wishes for, to force her into what they want her to do. And the manipulation starts right from the beginning, everytime Caroline starts to question something about this bizarre other world her other mother belittles her. When she first enters the other world, Caroline says to her other mother "You're not my real mother. My mother doesn't have Bububu..." and her other mother answers something like "You mean, bububu buttons? Don't you like them. I'm you're other mother dummy". When Caroline wants to leave at their first meeting with her other parents, they don't let her and push her sleep in her "other bedroom". And i remember in one scene she asks Coraline to tell her father that dinner is ready, and Caroline says "Oh you mean my other father" and the other mother responses with "You mean, you're better father, he's outside at the garden" and Caroline says "But my Parents don't have time to garden" and her other mother shush's her.
In the book, they are actually nicer
@@swifteaness damn rly? i haven’t read the book
@@swifteanessNo, the other parents have really disgusting motives/intentions, putting Buttons into Carolines eyes, manipulating her and eating her soul. So they never can be "nice", because they just pretend to be nice while having bad intentions. 😅
@@anni1348 I meant the real parents
Fun fact: Wyborn was not in the book. He was put in the movie as a sounding board for Coraline where as in the book she had a lot of internal dialogue.
WOAH woah.. I'm not sure why I got chills thinking about wybie just not being there!!
@@zenmilk Holy shit!!! WHY BE and WHY BORN!!! Its even worse than I tought!
Thank God Wybie was in this movie tbh. He and the cat helped distract from a lot of the terror I felt watching the movie 😅
@@fabienchamberland4791 you’re right!!
@@bridgetburke5398 the cat was still in the book
2:26 always gets me 💀
This video is literally the best. Screw RUclips.
What I love about this movie is how almost everytime you rewatch it, you see a new foreshadowing.
- At the start, you can see at the top of the house Mr. Bobinsky doing calistenics.
- Coraline sorting the seed packages by the kitchen window of Bleeding heart, Pumpkin and Squash, all kinda relevant later on.
- The clouds spiraling eerily when Coraline is chasing the mice to the tiny door the first time.
- Other Mother humming the opening Lullaby.
- the lightningbolt briefly making a clawed hand.
- The Other Garden shaped like Coraline's face having pumpkins for the eyes, something you HOLLOW OUT and discard the empty shell.
- Other's Mother's room, which is the house's PARLOR (like the spider and the fly Poem), with bug- shaped furniture and a web-pattern carpet. The first line of the poem is "'Will you walk into my parlour?' said the Spider to the Fly." The story tells of a cunning spider who entraps a fly into its web through the use of seduction and manipulation. Who does that remind me of....
What does Coraline sorting seeds have to do with anything? That part confused me.
@@caseycampbell4787 Bleeding hearts are the heart shaped flowers in the other garden and the other father is made of a pumpkin...
@@caseycampbell4787 They were all relevant in the Other world. The Garden was filled with Bleeding Hearts, the Other Mother "remade" the Father with a pumpkin and told him to "tend to his squashes". The Other Mother basicaly took everything she saw Coraline doing and saying and applied to her world.
Also the song other father sang to Coraline was his way of telling her to leave without actually telling her to leave
Also garden in the real world is shaped like other mother's face and Coraline threw the key into the well that looks just like tunnel to the other house
Cinema Therapy did an amazing review of this movie recently. I think the point it is that Coraline wasn't a neglected kid, her parents were just really busy after moving to a new city, had a tight schedule to write their book and an unexpected expense with their car accident. The point is that kids will think that Coraline is a poor poor thing but when we get older we kind of understand that adults just got some problems that fly over our heads in childhood.
i saw that too
Exactly! I saw it too
Loved that video from Cinema Therapy! As a grown adult with work to do, I definitely empathize a lot with Coraline's parents!
That analysis was so good. I was thinking about it as i saw this video. The story is not about the parents, is about Coraline growing up a bit and accepting the boring parts to learn to love her not al life
Lol did he change the name of the channel?
Here before this video gets removed it was a nice ride lads
Edit:Nvm lads we back in the clear
Came to watch this again, after you posted about RUclips is gonna take it down because of copyright. WHAT COPYRIGHT!!!
This kind of animation will forever have a very dear place in my heart. It carries a magic no live action ever will.
not animation, it's stop motion picture and IT'S THE MOST AMAZING THING I'VE EVER SEEN
CinemaTherapy covers this pretty well! In short, Coraline is about how escapism can be dangerous in extremes, and how sometimes, the circumstances we want to escape from are temporary and will pass if we wait. Her parents aren’t necessarily neglectful - we’re just seeing things from the eyes of a kid who wants all their attention and thus creates an alternate world in their head where things are perfect in *their* perspective.
OMG ty, I was surprised how much he hated the parents when he didn't think of them in an adult perspective. Like yeah they're being crappy parents rn, but that's because mom was in an accident and wearing a neck brace, and her and the father are working on finishing a big project while ALSO moving. It's unfortunate sure but I was really caught off guard how much he disliked the parents, it was just a bit childish? CinemaTherapy talked about it a little bit better in my opinion.
Dont read my name😑...
@@daddyyahweh9328 Yes, you're very smart. Shut up.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The parents were busy. It happens sometimes. And, yeah, her major problems would have been solved just by waiting it out. That's just how problems are sometimes.
@@daddyyahweh9328Yeah. I know that this is the only snippet we have of them so technically for all we know they are like this normally, but they're clearly going through a lot at the moment so it's unfair to just assume that.
Am I the only person that really loves this movie? I watched it like a thousand times and still don’t get enough ❤❤❤
My older brother, mum and little sister used to watch this movie SO MUCH when I was growing up and I could never understand how none of them were anywhere near as traumatised as I was, and I was on the other side of the room trying to distract myself from it, they were actually watching it. This movie is responsible for so many childhood nightmares for me.
Cinema Therapy did a really good video about Coraline not too long ago talking about the message of the movie. The message is basically “If something seems too good to be true, it probably is” paired with the trappings of escapism. A good video and a good channel, highly recommend to anyone who is interested in psychology and learning about movie making.
Yesss thank you! Someone else that watches cinema therapy! I kept thinking about that video while I was watching this
Yes I love them so much, they really help me understand movies a lot more
I love how Jon and Alan went into depth about predators with Coraline. like the Other Mother grooming her to gain her trust, but the moment when a predator asks someone to do something uncomfortable there is attack. That analysis alone is terrifying.
@@leighmartin9187 Right!
It’s disturbing af but still one of my favourite adventure films to this day. It gets you so immersed in that world it’s crazy.
*Dont_Read_My_Names*
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DONT YOU DARE DISOBEY ME CORALINE!
BAH
*android sounds*
It’s messed up about how they emotionally and verbally abuse her and then she has a schizophrenic episode…
@@breeze3402 what
@@breeze3402 are we watching the same movie? That never happened 😭
I'll miss this 😞
Rewatch time before it gets taken down and thrown into the void
Fun fact: the book was Coraline was based on almost wasn’t published cause the editor thought it was too scary for children, but was later convinced by his daughter that it was fine.
Plot twist: the daughter was also very scared by the story, but also wanted to know what happened next.
the book was terrifying bro the stuff in the prison thing and the well was wild
My dad read that to me when I was four 😂
Correction: it wasn’t his daughter. It was actually his publisher’s daughter
You almost gave me a stroke while trying to read this comment. @Lola ke “The book WAS Coraline WAS based on Almost wasn’t published cause the editor thought it was too scary “
@@Gamonoz Your comment makes way less sense my man
When I was a kid watching this, I thought of Coraline's parents as really terrible and also considered them the bad guys in a sense. But now watching it again as I am older, you just see that they're exhausted adults getting lost in their work so they can pay the bills, but they DO love Coraline. It's very sweet and real. As a kid though, you need hella attention at every moment, but now as an adult you see how difficult life is and trying to keep it all together as a parter, parent, and person. It's not that deep but I just wanna mention this lol
Watching this before it gets deleted, F 😔✨
youtube DONT REMOVE THIS why are you removing it suddenly
I always thought the lesson of the movie was to appreciate what you have, even if it isn't the most ideal, cause everything has a cost. Yes, the parents aren't the best throughout the movie but I think their actions are understandable. The writer's rash scene shows that the dad can be fun given the right circumstances, and as for the mom she realizes that she's being hard on Coraline and gets her the gloves she wanted as a kind of sorry. They just moved in so of course they don't have anything good to eat and had to throw something edible together. Sure, they could be better but come on, imagine making a big move, having a really important work report coming up, and having to deal with your kid adjusting to the new environment, that's a lot of stress. In the end, once everything is settled, the parents are able to lighten up and be better to Coraline. Sometimes things aren't ideal at the moment, but if you work through the tougher moments, eventually things will get better.
Plus the who main plot thingy of a lurking impostor, trying to kill you and capture your soul. The mentioned nuances pale in light of that.
True
You have a loooooong comment. LOL
@Core Walker I used to think she wore a turtleneck sweater until I've noticed that it's actually a cervical collar. Made me feel so bad for her
Then there's like, the entire movie plot, that goes in a whole different direction from the actual message-
The scariest thing to me is.. did Coraline ever really escape? The ending was too happy and simple, the cat disappearing, her parents SUDDENLY becoming less neglectful and more fun/loving? It never felt right to me, even now it still sends chills down my spine thinking she’s still trapped there without even knowing
I can never watch the ending the same anymore because of this chilling theory.
Right and is the beldam really gone?
We never actually see her leave the world either.. she just goes to sleep and boom, in the normal world possibly the other mother making illusions?
@@filly2299 exactly this to me was the driving force behind the theory! She never actually leaves the world so it could be the beldam tricking her
She still in the other world I don’t think nothing ever went back to normal the way her mom and dad act at the end when she goes back to the normal world is a little sus
lol imagine seeing this in 3D at the age of 8... and loving it. This is my favorite movie to this day. I believe the moral of the story is "careful what you wish for". We can assume we're seeing everything from Coraline's POV, so it makes sense that her parents look bad because she wants their attention, but they are currently unable to give it to her. But in reality, this is just a fraction of how they treat her. Once they're free from the deadline of the catalog they can pay attention to her, I like to think that the way they interact with her towards the end of the movie is how they usually do when they're not stressed from deadlines, a car accident, and moving.
"Coraline giving Wybe all 13 Reasons, you know what i'm saying"
That made my day, I love it so much, it's my new favorite line!
The ending isnt about coralines parents to stop being neglectful but for coraline to appreciate and be grateful for what she has
But her parents are neglectfull
@@blueblack3591 they are like that because they are stressed due to work so they can provide food to the family, this is all in coraline's perspective
@@blueblack3591 Not really, they are stressed out because of their work. I guess as an Kid you're on Coralines Side, but as an adult you're realize the parents do care about Coraline. Like when they eat, and they tell her to eat vegetables, when they later on hide the key to this weird other world she told them about, at an place that's more difficult to reach for Caroline or the work for the catalog is basically also to be able to take care of Caroline financially (like for buying food or clothes for school), so from adults perspective that's not neglectful at all. It seems a bit harsh to send her off to do stupid work like counting the windows, but having her around would just cause the parents being distracted and making mistakes at their work, which would result in the work taking even more time. And I'm sorry to say that, but it's not the parents Job to entertain their impatient Child 24/7. I mean i get that it's maybe hard to embrace boredom for a child. But the whole point of the story is that Caroline has to learn to appreciate what she already has.
The mom was in a car accident (hence the neck brace) and because of how low they were on funds they had to move. It makes sense for them to stress over their deadline to the point of ignoring anything else - getting published means an income and the continued ability to feed their family.
It's obviously not fair or good how they interact with Coraline, but understandable nonetheless.
Another message of the movie, besides the whole 'caution' thing is actually very valuable, too: Coraline in a way emancipated herself, she learned to appreciate things she didn't before (e. g. her cooky neighbours) and that she's able to bring change to things she doesn't like through her own actions (planting the garden, engaging with the others to feel less lonely).
That’s the collar of her turtleneck
@@alexisd6106 no its not. Sorry if its a joke, but in cause it not.... no.
Lesson number three: don't live in the States if you plan on ever getting sick or injured, or having a child, or a husband, or a wife, etc. who gets sick or injured... you get the point 💀
@@alexisd6106 It’s a neck brace.
I thought she was wearing a turtle neck😶
💯 agree about stop-motion animation being an art form, and gold would I love to have more of these types of films!
Someone please screen record this video and reupload it when it goes down!
Edit: just screen recorded it. Now I have a copy for when it goes down :D
why will it get down???
Fun fact! Everything that happens in this movie with Other Mother and that dimension (i think you'd call it the fairy realm) is all because Coraline stepped in the fairy ring, and did pretty much everything wrong lol. Stepped in the fairy ring, preformed magic in said fairy ring (the dowsing rod), once in the fairy realm, she told them her real name, ate their food, drank their drinks, and said thank you (implying that she owed Other Mother a favor). So I like to think that the real lesson of the movie is don't piss off a fairy lmao
True, dont fuck with the Fae.
Except the fairy is not doing this out of anger
I remember watching this movie as a kid and being terrified this could somehow happen to me. This comment is kinda comforting even though I now know it’s fiction of course
not a fact, but your theory
@@siriuswriting6426it’s not a theory her name can translate to “evil witch” plus she’s able to manipulate like a FEA can
This is the only movie/tv show that genuinely gave me nightmares as a kid
Same 💀 I cried when I watched it
lol this movie literally traumatized me especially when the fake mom turned into a spider
Same except the krampus that terrified me when I was 9.
Me too, this terrified me as a kid
Same, as a kid i wanted to watch this movie so bad and my mom was like YeAh sUrE yOu cAn WaTcH iT iTs a KiDs mOvie. Well i stopped after 10 min bc it was way to scary for me lol💀 At least i tried💀
Watching this again before it’s gone💀
Did yu know this scary coraline theory?: in the beginning the other mother pushes he doll into the air into a sky full of stars and the wybie said that at the bottom of the well you could see, a sky full of stars so at the end of the movie when coraline pushes the key and the hand down the well he gives the key back to the other mother!😢
So the movie is set in the town of Ashland Oregon and this is exactly what it’s like as someone who lives there. From the eccentric ex Shakespeare actor neighbors to the seemingly otherworldly local pets and natural wildlife that seem way to friendly with humans, to the sinister way the fog rolls over the hills this morning, it is EXACTLY like this movie
Also an orgonian
Hey, I live in Oregon too
I’m an Oregonian and my mom lived in Ashland for years as a kid.
Well do you have that big titied neighbour too
Apparently the book’s set in England, it’s crazy how that can translate/transition so smoothly hahah
The point of the end is to show her parents aren't actually bad, they were just stressed from work and Coraline being a kid saw it as them hating her and wishing for better parents. When you're a kid you dont usually notice how much work your parents have to do and how moving houses can affect them too so to her it felt like neglect. The end of the movie shows how they usually are, or at least how they are when they finish with their work.
Also, hospital bills from the accident to add to the stress
meanwhile the other mom seems nice, giving her attention, but is really just manipulative and trying to get her to do what she wants.
The gloves that Coraline wanted were $24, hence why her mom told her to put them back, but then tells her "if things go well, I promise I'll make it up to you" so they were likely low of money, hence why trying to make their deadline in time and why they're low on food.
I remember loving Coraline as a kid. I'm 15 now and still have fond memories of watching this at my aunt's house
I'm sad that this video's getting taken down, but at least I was able to see it again before it did
Somebody re uploaded it sooo
I like how the ending is tho with her parents. It's more realistic, not to mention that they don't mean to be neglectful. They're literally working to try and afford food and they're fustrated with her because Coraline is bored and wants them to do things with her right away which they can't do. So mom has a temper with her and her dad being the gentler one gives her some exploring stuff to do. Short lived but effective
It was based on a Neil Gaimen book and the thing about Neil Gaimen's children's books is that they're way, way darker than the books he writes for adults.
Kids like scary stories too. Take a look at the 90's version of 'Are you afraid of the Dark'' . It is absolutely brilliant .
I watched the newer version of it and they're awesome too!@@DEVILTAZ35
I remember reading this book as a child and practically jumping at every shadow. Coraline is one of my favourite books!!😅
One last time to watch this! Thank you Alex! 😭
I always thought the moral of the story was to be careful of manipulators disguising themselves as nice people to tempt children to do things that will endanger themselves. Like Hansel and Gretel.
Coraline’s parents aren’t bad, nor do they hate her. Both of her parents were just very stressed. They were dealing with a move, work stress, and a kid they’re struggling to make happy and balance work.
The moral of the story is all over the advertising “careful what you wish for” I think it could also be about Coraline’s bravery and adventurous nature saving her parents.
I think the fact you have to think to enjoy this movie is beyond too many people these days lol.
@@DEVILTAZ35 agreed
Coraline's parents suck: Her mother says she doesn't have time for her, is a pest, calls her neighbors and Coraline herself, dingbats, constantly comes up with ways to get rid of her, nags and berates her husband and refuses to cook food for Coraline and put of nowhere tries to guilt trip the audience by seeming like shes trying her hardest to be a good parent and she's like "why won't my daughter love me?".
Coraline is awful herself, to Wybie and is a whiner but still...
@@ernestomiloli8414 not reading all that but congratulations or something
@@lethal_flo9083 Thanks for nothing
RUclips don’t take this video down!
Honestly, until I became an uncle (and practically helped raise kids for years) I never knew how reliable the mom and dad were in this movie. I always thought they were just mean and neglectful until I helped raise my niece and nephew and watched this again a few years ago realized how accurate it is.
feels strange being here knowing it’s gonna get taken down
That's such a youtube move to take this down. It's clearly under fair use!
Kinda love the ending. It's about the people in her life being just people. Her parents are probably pretty nice when there's aren't stressed out by a deadline which they have once a year. Also they just moved, so they had a lot on their plate.
This is just pretty random but there’s a theory that coraline is still in the other world
I agree. The ending isn’t meant to be an open & shut case like the parents are supposed to be nice to Coraline because she saved them. It’s meant to come across saying adulting and parenting at the same time is very very hard-I’m finally realizing this now. Parents can’t come across like superheroes 100% of the time. Sometimes parents are just kinda terrible people. They don’t mean to be but again parenting is difficult. Because let’s be honest: the parent’s actions & dialogue in Act 1 are totally justified and really, aren’t that bad at all. But from a preteen girl’s perspective, they are aloof & boring.
@@TheOnlyRick3 exactly and at the end the cat teleports 😟😟
@@crimsoncherrypicked5431 Cats do that sometimes
@@genericname2747 😂that’s true I used to have a cat and it teleported away
I was similarly confused at the end, but the more I thought about it, the more I think that Coraline's experience was purely for her - to help her learn to appreciate what she has. Like, her parents might be a little stern at times, but honestly if you were working on a huge, important project that required a lot of uninterrupted focus, you'd probably get annoyed too at the kinds of disturbances Coraline would make. I imagine they were also a little disappointed at Coraline's lack of interest in the new place and surrounding land, since its pretty clear Coraline has a very curious, explorative nature that you'd think would've allowed her to thrive in a setting like that.
I think they were just pretty normal parents that were just doing the best they could in their situation. There might've even been a subtle element of contrast with Wybie's character, who's parents likely didn't even care enough to raise him and had to be raised by his grandmother. Coraline still had her family, and they still loved her; she just needed to learn to appreciate how much of a blessing that actually is.
this is the exact message im looking for after he said why did coralines experience throughout the movie amount to nothing. people should see this and like this comment
Not to mention that they just moved house and iirc the mother was just in a car crash
I can understand both sides, yours and Alex's. The message "appreciate what you have" can VERY easily be twisted into the manipulative "be grateful you dont have it worse". It's a slippery slope of a theme to explore.
This is why i was confused about the theory that coraline never escaped just because the real parents was nicer at the end.
i felt the same way 🧡
Here witnessing history as RUclips be an ass again. This video shall be missed, always giving great work Alex!
Who else is here before this video gets taken down
Edit: Oh nvm it is safe now
There's actually a theory about Wyborne's name. People speculate that his grandmother knows about the beldam, which is why he isn't allowed in the pink palace. This could also mean that Wylie's grandmother, named him that as in, 'why were you born? now I have to protect you from the beldam.' Which also means that Wylie's grandmother let Coraline move in as a sacrifice so Wybie wouldn't be killed.
Woah... that's pretty cool.
The grandmother knew???
Now that I thought of it, Wybie did say that his grandma never lets kids in the Pink Palace.
His grandma wouldn't let him into the pink palace either.
The grandmother's sister is last of the button-eyed children, so she's the reason there's been such a large gap between the previous victim and Coraline. She kept a hold of the doll, bricked up the door and kept children away from the house for years. Coraline was a slip-up, and Wybie says his grandmother was angry that he'd found the doll and given it to Coraline. She definitely knew something, but she was trying to protect all children, not just Wybie.
Wybie is not in the book so maybe that was an error on behalf of the film. Because you're right, it doesn't make sense for the grandma to let a family with a child move in if she didn't want her own grandson in there. And honestly the fact that we never saw a conversation between Coraline and his grandma was a mistake
@@rosesarerosie3218 we saw the grandma arrive at the end. Can be my imagination, but it feels a silent understanding happened between Coraline and the lady.
Well, yeah. Wybie literally said that he is surprised to see Coraline here because his grandma doesnt sublets apartment to families with kids, but why she did then with Coraline's family?