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The TRUE Primordial One | 4.1 Genshin Impact Theory & Lore
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2023
- The power of authority is often overlooked. In this video, I analyze authority and theorize what it may mean for Genshin Impact's storyline later on.
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00:22 Intro
03:38 The Power of Authority
06:05 The True Primordial One
08:54 The Origin of Everything
10:58 Summary
12:07 Closing Notes
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Nice theory video .and relly good theory although i have some question do you think is Abyss order evil because like they keep telling celestia evil but i don't really agree with that ,because Mihoyo when write the story they some time give huge plot twist like kiana is not real kiana but a clone of original kiana that is Durandal and i believe when we reach khanriah or celestia their will be big plot twist in the future and i believe that zhongli , venti and maybe guizhong if she get reincarnated ( because i have theory that guizhong is one of moon sister that survive and dipower ) will have big role in it .
I also have theory about what will tsaritsa do to gnosis, i belive that tsarisa have been cooperate with cryo soverign dragon to fight celestia by help him using all seven or six gnosis power( but if fatui fail to get hydro gnosis from neuvillet voice line they only use six ) to fight celestia
Thank you! I don’t believe Celestia or the Abyss order is complete evil personally; just that both have good intentions with harmful actions. Celestia has done things to presumably protect humans from the abyss. But the abyss order has done things to try destroying Teyvat because they believe their end goal justify it. The Fatui oppose both the Abyss and Celestia, but I could see a partnership with the cryo sovereign being possible!
as a honkai impact fan i see to mush similarity's in honkai some buuble worlds works by rule or autoritys for exemple in chapter 41 vita the main antagonist tried to sink the buuble world and absorbe the belif of its inhabitents wich sond similar to genshin i think all hoyoverse games fallows a patern in some sort
if teyvat was a buuble universe and took control of its rules then maybe the abbys and saha or also known as the abyys of the sea of quanta are related since both of them seems like they corrupt the rules of the buuble unvierses
they also used the world sink in honkai and teyvat been the name of a chip i think its not a coincidence
The fact that one line of voice line changes everything about what we thought we knew shows that we still know nothing and all the speculations are wrong😂
7:01 That nitrogen monoxide killed me😂😂
I do believe, however, that the only reason light realm and dark realm can exist in the first place was bcs something is separating them.
We know the dragons existed before the "Primordial One" appeared, and they are off a light element. That means something else that isn't the "microcosm of the universe" (since PO-that-might-have-been-Phanes made that one) also separated the light realm from the dark realm.
The light realm, is the elemental realm and this is the realm of dragons so they're one in the same. Now the progeny of the Primordial One/The first descender are now in control of that realm.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks what I'm saying is that since we know Tevyat exist, it hasn't gotten "annihilated" by meeting with abyssal realm "dark realm", means something is separating them.
Atm it's the "microcosm of the world" made by PO. But what about the time before PO came and made that?
is what I'm saying.
@@reveriesend4668 but what if…….. phanes is the reason abyssal energy exists in teyvat. We know he’s the first to descend, however we also know that abyssal energy isn’t from this world. That means he would be the reason that the light realm has ti be seperated from the dark realm in the first place
I wouldn't be surprised if these things are heavily related to Honkai Impact 3rd lore in some way since Teyvat was seen as an existing bubble universe and potentially confirmed (i don't remember if it was) to exist in the Honkai universe. This would explain some things like Teyvat being in a shell or something, simply being in a bubble universe and the sky being fake also makes sense that there is no sky out there, simply the Sea of Quanta. Abyss powers are quantum powers which are sort of like the powers of destruction. The light power that Celestia seems to use would be Imaginary power and beings like Phanes or the Heavenly Principles could just be Herrschers who decided to take control of their own little world. With that being said there is also a real universe out there with intergalactic travel and multiple real universes as seen by Honkai Star Rail where Welt is stuck in a universe other than his own.
Note that whenever someone brings honkai lore into genshin, it can never be taken seriously.
MiHoYo confirmed that HI3, Genshin and HSR are all in the same Hoyoverse due to the Imaginary Tree in HI3. Also, the writer of HI3 4.2 PV, he also confirmed that HI3 and Genshin are connected, especially when Stormterror was shown on the computer screen in HI3.
well considering that hoyo confirmed that hi3, hsr, and genshin are in the same universe then yes they would obviously be connected by their worlds
Note that Nahida specifically mentions the threat about destroying the Gnosis awakening the Heavenly Principles was a complete bluff. She doesn't actually know what's going on up there, which is logical considering her young age. The only things she knows come from Irminsul.
Nahida most likely was bluffing about destroying it, not about it waking up. After saying it was a bluff, she says that she truly doesn’t believe the Heavenly Principles would stand by and allow that damage to occur.
@@iamsyncx That's true. For clarity, her exact lines are:
Nahida: I told him that the Heavenly Principles may be awakened if I destroyed a Gnosis. Although it was just a bluff, he still fell for it.
Nahida: I assumed that the Heavenly Principles wouldn't just stand by and let such extensive damage to its "laws" take place.
So it really is just her assumption, but probably more of an educated guess.
Those exploring fontaine must have noticed a tower east of fontaine inaccessible as of 4.1 now, If Snezhnaya too has a tower somewhat like that, counting the 3 towers - fontaine one, snezhnaya one and mondstadt one(stormterror's tower), all three can possibly pinpoint towards celestia in centre, possibly a way to get into celestia after unlocking some kind of hidden mechanic still hidden in them, what do y'all think?
That's one good guess 👏
@@aether3854 right??
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@@a-passerby Yea!
Road Poneglyph
Paimons stomach is the void
You know The Pale Princess and The Six Pygmies is really really incomplete, right?
Yes, but I still believe it will be one of the most lore heavy books since the Abyss Order went as far as to steal it.
@@r.d.6290 didn’t they go after two books?
I’m referring to Lisa’s story quest, not the Three Realms Gateway event.
The text-to-speech pronouncing capital "NO" as "Nitrogen Monoxide" at 7:00 utterly f*cked me up because I was on audio-only lmao
Same😂😂
I was tempted to fix it while editing, but I decided to leave it in lol
Actually, the abyss is quantum energy in Genshin. Literally has the quantum symbol for hoyoverse games, and if insult could be the imaginary element in Genshin.
I heard someone said the night mother was born when the dragon king entered the abyss.
It’s possible, but we don’t yet know if the dragon king actually entered the abyss. And if the Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies is correct, the abyss wouldn’t have had corruptive power til the Night Mother existed.
For the land that bears us (Nitrogen Monoxide) has anything to do with that eternity without start or ceasing.
I like the night mother theory, especially after we know that there are living beings inside apep, and how melusines are born from elynas. It feels like there are endless possibilities. I also like other theory like nibelung, who cameback after his first lose against phanes, seen as 2nd who came in human's pov (or at least by enkanomiyan in before sun and moon). I also like the idea of alice (klee's mom) is from irminsul in other land/planet/universe. I think the more theories are made, the merrier 😂😂 will be fun to find out which theory is the closest one to the real truth of teyvat 😊😊 btw thank you for the video and congratz u got sponsor!
Thank you, and thank you for watching! I had completely forgotten about Apep’s situation but that’s a very good point. I hope Childe’s whale also gives us some more information regarding the true origins of Teyvat’s life.
@@iamsyncxI think if primordial whale turns out to be from abyss, then it fits your night mother theory.
Oooh, the primordial being, I made a theory about it a long time ago … I haven’t revisited this theory in a long time, so I may forget certain details about the theory, and may also share new insights about it that may add or remove parts of the original theory I had … so I might confuse you, if so, please ask questions!
So, long story short, my theory is that the Black Snake in the Gnostic Chorus is the Primordial Being.
In the Gnostic Chorus alone, there are a few details that immediately caught my attention.
Firstly, it is Venti himself telling the story, and since Genshin has never broken the 4th Wall, Venti is telling this story to an audience, the question is “who?”, the Traveler and Paimon make most sense.
Secondly, the First Crowned Heir was sent by the King to find the Genesis Pearl, and was deceived upon discovering the Pearl. She now believes she is the Queen of the Kingdom of Darkness. This tells us a fair bit; 1), there are two kingdoms, one of Darkness, and one amongst Heavens. 2.) Genesis Pearl belongs to Darkness Kingdom, why else would it be there in the first place? 3.) the Black Snake allowed the Princess to think she’s the Queen of Darkness … which implies that the Black Snake is in complete control of Darkness Hierarchy.
And the last suspicious thing about the Gnostic Chorus is the fact that the Second Crowned Heir is sent to continue where the first has fallen … he isn’t sent to rescue her, he is sent to continue the search of something that doesn’t belong to the Kingdom of Heavens.
Now, this alone tells you why I think the Black Snake is the Primordial Being. However, like I said, I have new insights, and my new insights add a lot more to this, it doesn’t make a new theory, it just heavily expands the theory. So I’m just going to reply my insights to this comment, hope you enjoy them!
I find that very possible as well! I was tempted to go on a mythology rant about how serpents have played a major role in creation stories, as well as the Night Mother possibly being Nyx, but I decided to leave it out lol. Thank you for watching and adding onto the discussion!
The Gnostic Chorus is a Story Teaser, the final line is “This is the story of your journey, of your tale to be told.” The simple fact is that the Gnostic Chorus is a Story … this extremely ordinary revelation feels as simple as 1+1=2, but when you look further into the details, you realize that it’s actually more akin to a more complex yet simple to understand equation of 1x1=1. Prepare to have your minds blown!
The significance and meaning of the name “Teyvat” has a few answers attached to it already, one of them being “Ark” relating to Noah’s Ark surviving the Flood. Well, I believe that Teyvat does indeed translate into Ark, but not to reference Noah’s Ark, but instead the Ark of a Story, or more specifically, a Stories Arc.
Exposition, Rising Action, Climax, Falling Action, Resolution.
This formula of a Story may sound very familiar to many people already, and it may surprise you to know, that the Story Formula, or Story Arc, is already heavily implemented into the Game.
When we ascend characters to certain ascensions, we unlock ascension dialogues. Intro, Building Up, Climax, Conclusion.
Stories are Equivalent to Ascension.
This may be completely absurd when we start mentioning Gods who’ve already ascended. Well, those very Gods also talk about Ascension, or more accurately, all characters talk about “Feelings About Ascension”, how is it that we’re able to achieve this capacity of Ascending Individuals, while also limiting their Ascension to certain limits. We use Gemstones.
The Traveler also has Ascensions, however they are the only character to not possess Ascension Dialogue, or Boss Materials to Ascend. What they do require, the same as all others, is Gemstones. Brilliant Diamonds that always say “Welcome to this world”, at every level.
This individual who is welcoming us, seems to be the person who controls ascension, the Brilliant Diamond Gemstone has all of the 7 Colors, and the Gemstones of each Element has dialogues from their respective Archons. Dialogue from Ascended Individuals, these Gemstones are nothing more than a Story Teaser themselves.
Edit: sorry, I wanted to explain into more detail, but a situation occurred that grabbed all of my attention for the time, and my train of thought has completely left me behind. So once again, if you have any questions, please ask away!
I love Genshin and it's lore, thanks for the video. I have no idea what is really going on, but the theories on Teyvat being a bubble world in Honkai are quite interesting. Would make sense, since Aloy suddenly appeared, so might be connected to all worlds that exist??
Thank you for watching! I find the bubble world theories possible. But I’m very interested to see what they do.
Mihoyo rebranding to hoyoverse make more sense if you believe all their games are connected to each other. It's even funnier if you realized they rebranded after honkai impact 3's otto apocalypse's story arc concluded. A character that open the concept of infinite possibilities or multiverses in honkai universe.
Looking at your theory, really make me think of something since the heavenly principles have authority over all of teyvat does that mean that since they control irminsul tge archons are rightfully given the dominion over each element if you really think about it, the Archons have shown to be more capable Gods and rulers than any of the dragons ever could the value the people of there nations safety and life forms from there but when it comes to the dragons, they’re pretty much more destructive than actual peacekeepers apep even says that she could destroy nahida and her people if she wanted to buy it, served her no purpose I wonder if there elemental authority was taken away because of their destructive power if you really look at the elements they each represent a different kind of emotion or certain passion dendro is the physical form of life in teyvat that holds many new discoveries and beauties this perfectly represents nahida and her title as the god of wisdom, but when you look at apep she’s more so filled with bitterness and hatred towards the gods she even hates nahida for no reason just because she is a useper the dragons are always saying that the guys don’t have the right to rule over this land, but have you ever taken into consideration that the dragons were being irresponsible with their power and authority Here’s some more evidence dvalin is the wind dragon and it’s supposed to be the dragon freedom yet despite that he gets corrupted by the abyss in holds hatred towards venti because he thought he abandoned him that leading him to torment monstadt and attacked the people, and for azdaha he loses his memories due to erosion and becomes extremely violent towards liyue and Morax breaking the contract he had with him and for neuvillette well hydro it’s supposed to be the concept of emotion and life though he is the most human out of all of the dragons he still hold some resentment for the Archons and the gods, despite not doing anything wrong he wants to judge them because they “stole” the elementl authority from the dragons all of this leads me to believe that the original purpose of the elements was supposed to be given to the gods if what your saying is right then the primordial one most likely gave the archons the proper authority over the seven elements because they perfectly represent the concept of each element
venti: being carefree and having the most freedom out of the rest of the archons Anemo being the freeest element that connects true all corners of the world
Zhongli: being extremely knowledgeable about history, and dealing with the concept of erosion geo is another word for rocks, and all rocks erode into another substance (I think) and have been on this planet since the very beginning, and hold many knowledge of past events
Raiden ei: being extremely powerful yet also being the shadow and being the sister of mokoto perfectly represents thunder being the shadow of lighting with is being a more powerful sound
Nahida: constantly wanting to learn about the world and value and protect life in Sumeru dendro is the concept of growing like how nahida is growing to be a great archon and the fact plants are valued amongst the world like how nahida is a consciousness or more specifically avatar of irminsul which is basically the entire world
Im not entirely sure about furina but if I had to guess I think she represents the calming fresh waters that nurtures life and is nothing more than a small week version of the ocean, while the true hydro archon is the engulfing sea ready to bring judgment upon all all of this makes me believe the Archons have more authority over the seven elements because of irminsul even when you look at the setup screen you can see that they reminisce elemental energy around them yet neuvillette is sovereign and is supposed to be stronger then them
7:00 "nitrogon monixide" hahaha you shouldnt use caps on something that could be a formula since your bot is special xd
whats the music that starts around 2:00?
yeah the lore was very well researched and written I must say...👊
Thank you!
The land of the night is actually teyvat and nightmother is the the first usurper.
"born in" and "born from" have different connotation, imho. Your idea seems to suggest more on stuff like Irminsul and Tevyat were born IN the void.
since you are also referring to items that can be found in the void, and also existence of items that is not in the void (like the moon, for example).
Other than that, everything's good.
ps.: and oh yeah: have you checked CN? since the nature of this theory is very... outside-the-lore
I disagree that they can’t mean the same. The void is nothingness, so to be born in nothingness means it was born from the void. The same applies to ideas such as being being born in sin; they are born from sinful things. I believe they were born from & within the void, since that’s all there would have been from them. Unlike Iriminsul, we know that the sun & moons were created (Staff of Scarlet Sands) rather than birthing from nothingness.
@@iamsyncx I just edited: have you checked CN? since your theory is very... meta.
Outside of the lore? But what I checked in CN were the translations of things such as “Genesis Crystal” & “Iriminsul”.
@@iamsyncx outside-the-lore: I mean this theory is very world-building and might not even get addressed in full at the end of Genshin.
Just feels like this is the kind of stuff that would fall into a general grand scheme that is hoyo-verse.
check CN: no I mean: stuff like the Pale Princess.
I agree it could be more of a grand scheme thing for Hoyoverse. “Unfortunately”, I’m expecting them to still leave us with a lot questions by the time Genshin finishes, but I do hope they address the biggest points. I haven’t read the Pale Princess in CN yet, but I’ll check it out when I have the chance!
This theory indeed become food for thoughts. Still, if that ending wasn't very open ended. I'll be chewing my words that Paimon might be indeed tied to Tevyat's creation more closely than I imagined. Then again, I won't be holding my breath if she pulled a 'Kaslana' stunt when plot demands it cause it's a hoyo games -_-;
so basicallly night mother is kinda like aeon and P.O might be hershcherr like then dragons and archons are lesser gods
The nature of the Abyss is a tough one and I realize you're mostly talking metaphorically whereas I think there might be a literal interpretation, however even so it feels like you can't associate the Abyss with so much surely?
Abyss = void = nothingness
Abyss = universe = everything
Abyss = night mother = a personality
Those seem mutually exclusive ideas to me. In game the Traveler is said to have crossed the Celestial Atlas (Zhongli) and visited many planets. These are not metaphors. It's rare but sometimes Traveler drops a factoid bomb about some random planet they once visited (eg "usually on other worlds, Alchemy is hidden / secret"). These are real worlds and real places in a real physical universe that they traveled through. So I think the only one of the three that's possible is your original "Abyss = universe" theory. Now this got a big shot in the arm from the display of the cracked sky in the domain through the book, which for sure appears to be purple themed (the stuff beyond the sky) like the abyss. Or perhaps like the stuff you see when you open an artifact domain a crack and see partially through the door. But it's also reminiscent of the galaxy of stars in the sky of Teyvat at night and the view from floor 12 of the Spiral Abyss, after passing 3 floors where you see the moon, though a moon which shows half of the dark side of the moon, consistent with a perspective of the moon from orbit (ie from space). And certainly the Abyss has access to other worlds through it, as per the description of the Rifthounds and Golden riftlord.
On this basis you could say the Abyss is nothing more or less than a crack in the eggshell of Teyvat, however something still seems off about this approach to me. For one thing that suggests a late creation date for the Abyss again, but you want it to precede the PO and dragons even. Another issue is that if the sky cracks it's fine to see what's beyond, though it doesn't seem to exactly do that, because I would expect to see the milky way or the loading screen structures, but why would there be a hole in the eggshell deep in the earth? or is the ground fake as well as the sky? is the whole thing a bubble in space and if you dig down too much you crack out the other side the same as a crack in the sky? So there's no planet at all here? But then what was there before the PO if the PO made all this? What were the dragons living on?
I believe the “abyss” is more than one thing, or it can be used to refer to multiple different things. There is the physical place, the power, the “sky”/universe, and the ruler of it, the night mother. Similar to how the Heavenly Principles have been referred to as an entity but also a set of laws.
• The twins may have traversed the universal-abyss multiple times already since we’re told the universe has no beginning and no end.
• The “land of night”/physical abyss may just be the place closest to or most in-tune with the universal-abyss. With that in mind, the night mother could just be a manifestation of the universal-abyss, which is why she now rules (or ruled) over the land of night.
• I’ve briefly discussed the idea before, but in regards to your point about the existence-date of the firmament, the Primordial One could have created the firmament, left, then returned. During it’s “away-time”, the idea of elemental-evolution I discussed may have taken place.
• It’s also possible that everything is just in a bubble (which may be a stabilized domain). I’d even go as far to say that current-day Teyvat could just be the remains of a previous world that was stabilized. The Iriminsul tree may just be cycling the memories and data of those who were lost, which is why “everything runs in a loop.” After all, Albedo does say the earth is “a dream lost to time.”
• But it’s impossible to really say anything for certain now. Especially since the genesis crystals say they were formed at the very origin of “the universe.” But the primogem description describes them as the “condensed hopes and dreams of universes (plural) that once were.” We’ll just have to wait until they decide to release some more ancient Teyvat history lol.
EYYYY he's here!!!
Fascinating
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More lore pleaseeeee ❤❤
Correct me if im wrong but isn't rukkhadevata the one who created the irminsul?
Rukkhadevata was born from Iriminsul, although we don’t currently how or when.
She created the Akasha
@@iamsyncx It is also possible that rukka or even an earlier incarnation of her is the shade of life that spawned from the PO. Given that all the celestial nails were aimed at now burnt out parts of irmunsul (the white branches) these were co-opted corruptions of irmunsul itself that were re-writing parts of teyvat (locally) according to some outsider's rules. If they'd been left to change teyvat they'd have spread and co-opted the entire world.
nitrogen monoxide
This is not a new theory. This has been around since the Enkanomiya patch. Beware, as the abyss existed with the light realm even before the primordial one descended, and also the PO uses the light realm to create life. Apep revealed that there were plants before the PO created life, it may be a translation error or a plot hole, but for now we have to take it as it is. Now, it's not a stretch if the PO created life from the abyss, since that's what Gold did. I don't think PO did it since Abyss is harmful to the light and the human realm. At this point we can see the abyss as a source of power.
Also people are saying that the primordial one is Nix or Ananke, because they relate how Enkanomiya calls the deities (like names from Greek mythology and theology) to all the other deities in Genshin. This way of thinking could lead to a wrong assumption, so be careful as Genshin is a mix of theology and myths. For example, they mix Pangu (Chinese) and Phanes (Greek), they have similarities but are very different. Ishtaroth is another example, as Enkanomiya refers to it as Kairos, and Kairos, as far as I remember, has no similarity to Ishtar or Astaroth. So the best way to guess who is the primordial one, is to research Hoyoverse theology/mythology.
What we do know is that we can may end fighting fate (or a representation of), and that due to how Irminsul alters the world's data, many of the fantasy books may contain encrypted teyvat information, as Nahida demonstrated that this way is a form of preserve information.
irminsul, not iriminsul?
You are really butchering some of those pronouncustions