I started to think the subject of time and Venti were suspicious since I saw his voiceline: *Yawn* That was a refreshing sleep. Ah, Traveler, we meet again! What? You don't remember me? Ahaha, well, allow me to join you on your quest once again. I must see to it that the bards of the world tell the Traveler's tales!
When we start the game the traveler mentioned that their path blocked by an Unknown God WHILE THEY WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF TEYVAT. This means the traveler and the siblings had already been in TEYVAT before
@@thelostyakshanot exactly... The twins arrived, but one of them awoke first (The one that becomes an Abyss Twin). Then the Cataclysm happened over Khaenri'ah and they wake up the other twin (the one that becomes the traveler), saying that they had to leave. It's revealed by the traveller during the Bough Keeper: Dainsleif Quest.
Venti says he knows all songs that have been, are, or will be. He also composes songs about the Traveller, and what goes on in Teyvat. By writing these songs, he would immediately know them _in the past_ so he can tell his past self anything, as long as he writes a song about it.
Makoto also had a connection to Ishtaroth .. remember she also asked Ishtaroth to help Ei plant the sakura tree seed in the past and bloom it to the future.. i think the whole time domain is created by her.
Venti and Egeria are cousins then. Two grandchildren of the primordial one winning the archon war makes me think that the archon war winners were already decided and they just used the war to purge the other gods
Possibly, fate does play a big part in the underlying nature of Genshin story.. but, almost all the gods are children and grand children of the PO, even humans. The shades were responsible for the creation of most of the lifeforms we see on Teyvat.
@@alihmaulaakmal Doubt it. The shades are female iirc and much older than even the oldest records we have of Zhongli. Also, if he was the life shade then that would make him the creator of Egeria.
Venti and Rukha both have similarities. They both holding some kind of ball in their statue. Now from your speculation I am sure they are from istaroth. Because istaroth not only related to time but also to trees like irminsul. My second thought is when you said Paimon and Venti is similar which got me thinking she is the moon that loved the traveler but somehow she forgot and maybe that the three moon sisters are child of istaroth.
Actually siblings kinda have similarities with akivili from HSR (aeon of trailblazer) in stories they say akivili suddenly disappeared one day they were trying tree or something like that and our sibling belongs to tevat if nahida says the truth maybe I believe unknown god is a herrscher of finality or something like that there's a lot of things but I'm lazy for now
@@starlight14673 (I might write lil bit more that too much so don't read everything and there's a lot of things I couldnt even write because I can't think) after HSR we can probably say all games are connected some way they're probably in same multiverse that's probably explain ggz and h3rd story similarities at the start and welt existing in HSR herrscher of finality/end is super duper strong they can create change or destroy universes and there's way too many possibilities at this point akivili is an aeon that search for irminsul (not one in genshin but all of the games have some short of tree that records everything (and yes in some situations people can erase themselves like scara Did (Otto from hi3rd)) and akivili was trying to find it and I think they might jump into genshin universe they might have met their other selves twin/ siblings unknown god took one probably the one actually from current universe but I can't really confirm and there's a lot more ways but currently things in my theory use welt going HSR universe with what left of his herrscher powers there's same characters in all games mei/ei himeko and aeon's are like vision holders mortal beings could become immortal and and maybe there's a chance aeons can become a gods like vision holders for aeons their paths etc their ambition how wide your path stronger the aeon is akivili might been achieve a god or he way be consumed by an aeon that have wider range of path that actually include trailblazing inside it (I was reading something in the wiki and aeon of order consumed my aeon of harmony due to crossing paths) and there's chance for him to be killed in HSR aeons seems like unkillable things but there was something in the story if I'm not mistaken a rumor about an aeon getting murdered they didn't get into more details but an aeon is killed probably
Since one of Istaroth's names is Kairos I wonder if there's actually two gods of time, since in Greek mythology there's Kairos and Chronos. Both are different kinds of time so either Istaroth is going to be both or there's two of them and they govern two different things. Maybe Istaroth governs death while the other governs absolute time or something else related to time, I only assume death for Istaroth because both her and Venti seem to do a few things that are closely tied to death. She made the sinshades which are just dead people whose memories remain in the world, Venti took Stanley's soul from his friend so he could be at peace, and he allowed people to hear the voices of their loved ones who died and in Razor's case allowed him to actually have a vision of his parents. It could also explain why Istaroth has been lost to time, other then all records beings destroyed in Mondstadt by the nobles, maybe something else made sure she was gone. Venti also doesn't seem to like Celestia, which isn't a surprise since what they're doing goes against freedom but maybe one of them also killed or trapped Istaroth.
@@The_original_oneThat's Ei statue. English translation aren't the best, and always had inacurate words. CN, JP, KR all these language tell it's Ei statue. Even a NPC in english translation, tell us it's the Raiden Shogun statue.
Interesting theory, although I am not sure if this is compatible with what Nahida said about the main character being the 4th descender. If Aether/Lumine (depending on who you use) is not from this world, then it's hard to see how they may be related to Istaroth
@@csm3825Didn’t the interview imply that Carmen Dei act 2 does in fact exist? I believe they said that the writer who quit was responsible for writing a bunch of things and one of them was Venti’s second story quest
It also explains why Paimon is so sassy/ grumpy towards Venti🤣 how she was able to continue his line unconsciously (might because she was always used to the sentence if Venti had speak of it much often) Paimon also must have lost her memory and the game will eventually reveal why and what is Paimon. The game so far had been hinting on 'what' Paimon really is (albedo etc) which could mean that it will be mentioned in the game in the future. Why they have siblings fights and that Venti literally mocks her in the game quite bemusedly. 🤣🤣🤣
Well all the "gods" are created by Celestia. Haven't we known that for a long time before the new wings semi-confirmed it? Remember that Andrius is said to have been made a god by some more ancient god still - meaning a Shade, though whether it was Istaroth or the Shade of Creation or one of the others isn't known. Also because Celestia post-2nd throne represents the demiurge who creates the Archons in Gnosticism (Gnosticism and the bible being one of the few times real world lore implies game lore albeit in a limited way). Well Enjou tries to mislead us by implying the "gods" came with the 2nd throne, but all he specifically says is that they showed up after the 2nd throne did. This all suggests that the gods were not all created at the same time, so some are older than others, though none as old as the Nails dropping (implying Kapatcir is too old to be a god). As for the Twins they seem more likely to be on the same par as the Primordial One itself but you'd have to get into the whole, where did the PO come from stuff for that, and I doubt MiHoyo intends to ever finally answer that. But for sure, they are old. If Shades create (or "promote" might be a better word) gods then Venti has to be promoted by someone to qualify for being an Archon. That sounds like Egeria too, so maybe it was both things at once, like OK this individual is an Archon candidate but they aren't even a god yet so, what we'll do is promote them to a god and make them the Archon at once. While Andrius is promoted from a wolf. Are all gods born as some non-god creature? At any rate Venti is the last known god to be made a god I guess 2600 years ago, and the oldest might be Deshret around 8000 years ago. If gods are popping off all over Teyvat every century or so then we have an active Shade doing it. Enkanomiya says only Istaroth was active for a long time and may have been the only Shade who was active. So was she the Shade to promote every god? Did Istaroth promote Egeria somewhere around 2000 to 4000 years ago? Note that the Shade of Creation birthed Egeria not as a god, and Egeria was later promoted to become a god so as to qualify for Archonhood or some other reason. Istaroth needn't be the Shade of Creation to be the one who promotes gods. In this sense figuratively all gods might be children of Istaroth as well as her personal servitor race, the 1000 winds. Of course in a literal biological sense so god, Shade or Seelie can have children. Most real world mythos are filled with family relationships of one gods to another but this doesn't exist in Genshin Impact except a couple of examples that could be metaphorical; namely that Ei and Makoto are said to be sisters (this could simply mean they are a pair), and that Osial has a wife (which could mean like eg Zhongli and Guizhong were close). Yeah the Shades are probably the archangels named on Mona's circle but MiHoyo don't seem to have pursued that idea since the re-lettering of the circle in an early patch from "ABCDEFGHIJKL" to what it is now. Still it feels like Hebrew might be the language representing Celestia since it's a code word for the Hypostases which use the magic spell that praises the Primordial One. Seelies likely were not created by the PO but came on the Ark with the PO (see Drunkard's Tale and the fact that their creation isn't referenced in creation myths).
Eso tiene sentido, si los seeles eran angeles que cayeron en desgracia, de ahí que vengan sus nombres demoníacos y sus puestos como dioses menores (arcontes).
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I started to think the subject of time and Venti were suspicious since I saw his voiceline: *Yawn* That was a refreshing sleep. Ah, Traveler, we meet again! What? You don't remember me? Ahaha, well, allow me to join you on your quest once again. I must see to it that the bards of the world tell the Traveler's tales!
When we start the game the traveler mentioned that their path blocked by an Unknown God WHILE THEY WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF TEYVAT. This means the traveler and the siblings had already been in TEYVAT before
And when we first meet venti, he knows the traveler which means the traveler had already meet with venti and knew his identity.
@@thelostyakshanot exactly... The twins arrived, but one of them awoke first (The one that becomes an Abyss Twin). Then the Cataclysm happened over Khaenri'ah and they wake up the other twin (the one that becomes the traveler), saying that they had to leave. It's revealed by the traveller during the Bough Keeper: Dainsleif Quest.
Venti says he knows all songs that have been, are, or will be. He also composes songs about the Traveller, and what goes on in Teyvat. By writing these songs, he would immediately know them _in the past_ so he can tell his past self anything, as long as he writes a song about it.
Makoto also had a connection to Ishtaroth .. remember she also asked Ishtaroth to help Ei plant the sakura tree seed in the past and bloom it to the future.. i think the whole time domain is created by her.
yeah i guess it was made by higher power or istaroth
Venti and Egeria are cousins then. Two grandchildren of the primordial one winning the archon war makes me think that the archon war winners were already decided and they just used the war to purge the other gods
Possibly, fate does play a big part in the underlying nature of Genshin story.. but, almost all the gods are children and grand children of the PO, even humans. The shades were responsible for the creation of most of the lifeforms we see on Teyvat.
And also there is theory that Zhongli is one of Four shade ( the Shade of life ) and that will make zhongli venti unchle if this theory true
@@alihmaulaakmal Doubt it. The shades are female iirc and much older than even the oldest records we have of Zhongli. Also, if he was the life shade then that would make him the creator of Egeria.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks yeah, shade of life is already confirmed as a she
Venti and Rukha both have similarities. They both holding some kind of ball in their statue. Now from your speculation I am sure they are from istaroth. Because istaroth not only related to time but also to trees like irminsul. My second thought is when you said Paimon and Venti is similar which got me thinking she is the moon that loved the traveler but somehow she forgot and maybe that the three moon sisters are child of istaroth.
all archons hold a ball besides zhonglis, foca;lors is just in her sword
Yeah the wind still blows when the menu is up, but then again, the waters still flow too. So it's nothing related specifically to wind / Anemo.
Venti's a nepobaby
Actually siblings kinda have similarities with akivili from HSR (aeon of trailblazer) in stories they say akivili suddenly disappeared one day they were trying tree or something like that and our sibling belongs to tevat if nahida says the truth maybe I believe unknown god is a herrscher of finality or something like that there's a lot of things but I'm lazy for now
wei theory? i mean after all hsr and genshin are connected
@@starlight14673 (I might write lil bit more that too much so don't read everything and there's a lot of things I couldnt even write because I can't think) after HSR we can probably say all games are connected some way they're probably in same multiverse that's probably explain ggz and h3rd story similarities at the start and welt existing in HSR herrscher of finality/end is super duper strong they can create change or destroy universes and there's way too many possibilities at this point akivili is an aeon that search for irminsul (not one in genshin but all of the games have some short of tree that records everything (and yes in some situations people can erase themselves like scara Did (Otto from hi3rd)) and akivili was trying to find it and I think they might jump into genshin universe they might have met their other selves twin/ siblings unknown god took one probably the one actually from current universe but I can't really confirm and there's a lot more ways but currently things in my theory use welt going HSR universe with what left of his herrscher powers there's same characters in all games mei/ei himeko and aeon's are like vision holders mortal beings could become immortal and and maybe there's a chance aeons can become a gods like vision holders for aeons their paths etc their ambition how wide your path stronger the aeon is akivili might been achieve a god or he way be consumed by an aeon that have wider range of path that actually include trailblazing inside it (I was reading something in the wiki and aeon of order consumed my aeon of harmony due to crossing paths) and there's chance for him to be killed in HSR aeons seems like unkillable things but there was something in the story if I'm not mistaken a rumor about an aeon getting murdered they didn't get into more details but an aeon is killed probably
Awesome videoo!!! I really like Genshin lore soo much fun to analyse and theorize!
Thank you!
Since one of Istaroth's names is Kairos I wonder if there's actually two gods of time, since in Greek mythology there's Kairos and Chronos. Both are different kinds of time so either Istaroth is going to be both or there's two of them and they govern two different things.
Maybe Istaroth governs death while the other governs absolute time or something else related to time, I only assume death for Istaroth because both her and Venti seem to do a few things that are closely tied to death. She made the sinshades which are just dead people whose memories remain in the world, Venti took Stanley's soul from his friend so he could be at peace, and he allowed people to hear the voices of their loved ones who died and in Razor's case allowed him to actually have a vision of his parents.
It could also explain why Istaroth has been lost to time, other then all records beings destroyed in Mondstadt by the nobles, maybe something else made sure she was gone. Venti also doesn't seem to like Celestia, which isn't a surprise since what they're doing goes against freedom but maybe one of them also killed or trapped Istaroth.
Hoyo should show Istaroth's face in next Mond expansion.
Isn't that “ omnipotent god" statue in Inazuma is a statue of istoroth
@@The_original_oneThat's Ei statue.
English translation aren't the best, and always had inacurate words.
CN, JP, KR all these language tell it's Ei statue.
Even a NPC in english translation, tell us it's the Raiden Shogun statue.
@@Izira_Talia emmm it doesn't seems like.
It's resembles venti more then ei in fact it doesn't even resembles ei at all
Interesting theory, although I am not sure if this is compatible with what Nahida said about the main character being the 4th descender. If Aether/Lumine (depending on who you use) is not from this world, then it's hard to see how they may be related to Istaroth
ah yes, Venti and his 999 siblings.
I love this theory tho
At least one has to be a girl that looks like him, right? RIGHT?!
Venti SQ2 when?
At this rate? Sometime after Khaenriah lol
The writer of Venti's SQ2 left that's why we have no story quest 2.
@@csm3825Didn’t the interview imply that Carmen Dei act 2 does in fact exist? I believe they said that the writer who quit was responsible for writing a bunch of things and one of them was Venti’s second story quest
The sumeru wings kinda hint towards that tho
It also explains why Paimon is so sassy/ grumpy towards Venti🤣 how she was able to continue his line unconsciously (might because she was always used to the sentence if Venti had speak of it much often) Paimon also must have lost her memory and the game will eventually reveal why and what is Paimon. The game so far had been hinting on 'what' Paimon really is (albedo etc) which could mean that it will be mentioned in the game in the future.
Why they have siblings fights and that Venti literally mocks her in the game quite bemusedly. 🤣🤣🤣
Btw if the twins are related to someone in Teyvat. Its most likely would be one of the decender most likely
I've been waiting for part 2 of hangiut event of venti since 2022 lol
Well all the "gods" are created by Celestia. Haven't we known that for a long time before the new wings semi-confirmed it? Remember that Andrius is said to have been made a god by some more ancient god still - meaning a Shade, though whether it was Istaroth or the Shade of Creation or one of the others isn't known. Also because Celestia post-2nd throne represents the demiurge who creates the Archons in Gnosticism (Gnosticism and the bible being one of the few times real world lore implies game lore albeit in a limited way). Well Enjou tries to mislead us by implying the "gods" came with the 2nd throne, but all he specifically says is that they showed up after the 2nd throne did. This all suggests that the gods were not all created at the same time, so some are older than others, though none as old as the Nails dropping (implying Kapatcir is too old to be a god). As for the Twins they seem more likely to be on the same par as the Primordial One itself but you'd have to get into the whole, where did the PO come from stuff for that, and I doubt MiHoyo intends to ever finally answer that. But for sure, they are old.
If Shades create (or "promote" might be a better word) gods then Venti has to be promoted by someone to qualify for being an Archon. That sounds like Egeria too, so maybe it was both things at once, like OK this individual is an Archon candidate but they aren't even a god yet so, what we'll do is promote them to a god and make them the Archon at once. While Andrius is promoted from a wolf. Are all gods born as some non-god creature? At any rate Venti is the last known god to be made a god I guess 2600 years ago, and the oldest might be Deshret around 8000 years ago. If gods are popping off all over Teyvat every century or so then we have an active Shade doing it. Enkanomiya says only Istaroth was active for a long time and may have been the only Shade who was active. So was she the Shade to promote every god? Did Istaroth promote Egeria somewhere around 2000 to 4000 years ago? Note that the Shade of Creation birthed Egeria not as a god, and Egeria was later promoted to become a god so as to qualify for Archonhood or some other reason. Istaroth needn't be the Shade of Creation to be the one who promotes gods.
In this sense figuratively all gods might be children of Istaroth as well as her personal servitor race, the 1000 winds. Of course in a literal biological sense so god, Shade or Seelie can have children. Most real world mythos are filled with family relationships of one gods to another but this doesn't exist in Genshin Impact except a couple of examples that could be metaphorical; namely that Ei and Makoto are said to be sisters (this could simply mean they are a pair), and that Osial has a wife (which could mean like eg Zhongli and Guizhong were close).
Yeah the Shades are probably the archangels named on Mona's circle but MiHoyo don't seem to have pursued that idea since the re-lettering of the circle in an early patch from "ABCDEFGHIJKL" to what it is now. Still it feels like Hebrew might be the language representing Celestia since it's a code word for the Hypostases which use the magic spell that praises the Primordial One. Seelies likely were not created by the PO but came on the Ark with the PO (see Drunkard's Tale and the fact that their creation isn't referenced in creation myths).
Not all gods were DIRECTLY created by a Shade, only Venti and Egeria at the moment
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I don't think Venti is Istaroth's 'child', but he might have been empowered by her somehow.
I mean they at least undeniably have a deep connection to each other in the more
Brought by the "Wind", not Brought by the "Wine" =D
Eso tiene sentido, si los seeles eran angeles que cayeron en desgracia, de ahí que vengan sus nombres demoníacos y sus puestos como dioses menores (arcontes).
Could the heavenly principle be the God of Time