Howdy y’all, thanks for stopping by! \(^^)/ And thanks so SO much for all the feedback and enthusiasm that y’all have been giving Concept Corner (and Heartless) so far! This installment took a while to make because I tried to go all out on it, so hopefully it was worth the wait, haha It’s been amazing to see all the theories and questions, and even fanart(!) that came about after the first one of these - I hope that these villains spark y'all's imaginations just as much! (^^)/ (And as ever, please do let me know your faves - and any suggestions for future Concept Corner Content - here in the comments! This format is super fun, so I’d really love to make more of these in future!) 💖 💖
I. Am. In. Love. With your stories. I could sit and listen to all you different ideas for hours. If you did a livestream purely for Heartless, to kinda gather ideas for the series or something, I would drop everything and watch. You have made a concept that I *ADORE* and would *LOVE* to see as a comic or animation
I can’t exactly say this isn’t my rational thinking, but I would love to see one of the villains usurp creed, maybe doc or lance, and creed is forced to fall in with the heroes in some way, maybe at first he wants to manipulate one of them into turning the others in, most likely scarf kid (im so sorry I can’t remember names ;d) but maybe he (the scarf kid, but creed could make an interesting one too) could have a one-sided crush for him, and the others could either help creed turn good, or try to anyway. And ice scarf dude with the held of his buddies, get out of that toxic. Idk man it’s late, bad idea but maybe good fanfic 🤷
Heya! I love this video but, I have a feeling, whether it be just me being a simp or just a hunch, I have a feeling that Dock should be voiced by CorpseHusband. Its probably just me being a simp. But, me being me, I literally simp for all of your characters so far. THEIR SO PRETTY
fun fact: sirens were originally bird women! so lorelei's outfit having feathery components actually match even better with the original myth than a mermaid inspired outfit would!
@@degreeinnerdology Riordan actually described the sirens in his books fairly close to their traditional appearance. I think the sirens were cursed to be part-bird because they were Persephone's handmaidens and lost her to Hades? Whatever the case, yes, sirens are singing murder birds, so Lorelei is pretty on the nose there.
I can totally see her having bird based attacks, too. Like “mocking bird” for mimicry, “nightingale” for hypnosis, “Swan Song” as like a super move which hurts her, too.
Oooo what if Creed was born a wizard and hated himself for it, desperately searching for ways to rid himself of his magic, and his “curse” is the result of that search, but accidentally extended beyond himself and maybe it’s slowly killing him or something and that’s why he’s so weak? So while Heartless is kept alive by his magic, Creed is being eaten from the inside by his because it needs an outlet or something?
Ooo, this is almost exactly what I was thinking! Heartless can die again if he uses too much magic, but Creed can die if he doesn't use his ability enough! It's such an interesting concept!
It's also cool to think that Creed might require Heartless to stay alive, if this were the case, fueling his vigor to hunt them down and assemble this team.
I just noticed that each of the Jury has a 4 pointed star symbol somewhere on their design, and also that Bandy has it in Makeup so his is the only one that isn't a permanent fixture of the clothes, ALMOST LIKE HIS LOYALTY TO THE REST OF THE GROUP IS EPHEMERAL AND CAN BE WASHED AWAY! I've no clue if that was intentional but that is an amazing visual metaphor.
watched a later video where those stars are revealed to be permanent fixtures on their bodies, but the fact that his clothes don't have the logo still stands and the visual design still works great as a metaphor
@Susan FRISWELL i bet the next concept corner video that would expand on heartless would have the other characters like that one villain flint fought in the tournament, that would also have the king be shirtless too. just to make eira's life a little worse.
I can imagine Lance flirting with Eira just to make him mad during fights until Eira finally embraces his sexuality and just shrugs him off with,"You don't meet my standards."
Lorelei : Do you ever want to talk about your emotions Creed? Creed : No Bandy : I do!! Diana : We know Bandy. Bandy : I’m sad :( Lance : We know Bandy.
When you were talking about Lorelei's 'black swan' moment I was trying to think of ways you could do that without it making whatever was about to happen super obvious or kinda belated. And I was thinking, maybe it could be an environmental effect. She finally has her big public breakdown fighting the magicians and shatters a bunch of glass and she's so unhinged that she doesn't care about her clothing (because she strikes me as the kind of person who would at least pretend to care) and gets it stained with soot or oil or just plain dirt - showing how she's revealing herself as a villain. Then either she's defeated, or they *think* she's defeated, but she turns up later in a fully black dress.
Or he beats up the Heartless gang, and she gives him chin scratchies lol. “Aww! Who’s a good dragon knight? You are! Yes you are!” “The hell?! Get off me wo- Oh. That’s actually really nice.”
why can I just imagine that the villains go to France to like have a break from all the villain work they've done because nobody in France knows about them.
@@I_luv_raspberrys like, Marie Antoinette is literally being decapitated in front of them and they just sit back eating some crossiants and having a conversation about how they're gonna beat the heartless gang while there are screams and sounds of heads being chopped off in the background
"I wanted him to look like a mix between a vampire and a librarian." Imagine if one of the main characters taunted creed upon their first meeting, saying something like "What are you, a vampire librarian? You gonna bite us? Tell us to "shush"? Ohh, I'm so scaared!"
I imagine a one-off where he's just trying to read a book in peace and the other members of the jury keep on barging in the room he's in and being loud and annoying He switches from the library, to the kitchen, to his room, and anywhere until he's like at a park and he runs over the main heros They're ready to fight him but he just storms out instead and leaves them confused
@@0gammag0 ‘Special Events’, such as ‘Lance stubbed his toe’ and ‘Bandy tripped over himself’, y’know, things that *require* some *fireworks* to celebrate properly!
I’d like to imagine that if all of the villains went to an interview, it would go something like this: Interviewer: “So, why did you join the Jury?” Creed: *dramatic voice* “I remember it clearly. It was a cold night in December, and a snowstorm had just hit…” (continues to info dump his traumatic backstory for half an hour) Lorelei: “I want to eliminate all evil from the world! *winky smiley sparkle shine* “ Lance: “Violence! Violence! Violence! Viole-“ Dock: “So have you ever amputated an arm? No? You’re missing out. Well, point is, the feel of the saw going through a magic-user’s flesh [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]” Diana: “I always collect my dues. Always. Whether it be days, weeks, months, years… Every debt gets paid. No exceptions.” Bandy: “The Starbucks on the corner has a barista that puts 0.1% more whipped cream on people’s drinks than normal. I go there every day, order a drink, and take that 0.1% off to store in my fridge… soon, I’ll have a whipped cream business rivaled only by that of the Heartless gang! Therefore, by joining this group, I can get rid of my competition, fair and square…Oh, and I was bored.”
@@nmalm2114 Lol yea I agree 😄 I went back and watched it and it’s part of the way he does the base. I’m thinking it might be a symmetry line? It didn’t quite look like it was meant to be a stomach line
This is an amazing idea though! Could you imagine a guild of evil mad scientists working to become stronger than magic? It could even tie into Heartless’s backstory where a scientist tried to live forever by fusing magic and technology.
A cool idea for the villains “powers” would be that their “Curses” that have been caused by magic and that could play in why the Jury wants to destroy magic so more people don’t end up like them
It's funny, Lorelei is a place in Germany where I live. Legend has it that a woman sits and sings on a mountain. There is a river flowing next to the mountain and the drivers of the ships would drive on the shallows becaus of her singing and get stuck, which leads to them dying. That the character Lorelei is a dancer/singer fits the legend pretty well. It was just something that I noticed and wanted to point out. Greetings from Germany!
bruh imagine Alastor going up against river and thinking "HA! CAN'T HEAL YOURSELF NOW! WHATEVER WILL YOU DO, YOU PUNY WITCH!" And then River just knees him in the gut.
Bandy just creates Mannequins in his free time to have something reliable to swap his allies with, except they all have *terribly drawn* faces on them and/or are in weird poses, adding insult to injury when the heroes are moments away from beating a villain only to have them replaced by a cartoony mannequin version of them with button eyes and straw hair
@@apollo193 Diana: isn’t it weird how Bandy has life sized Mannequins of us? Creed: Bandy has life sized mannequins of all his friends. Bandy: *jingles in agreement*
@@benduford3746 *cuts to Bandy in his little workshop finishing up putting some details on a newly made Alchemy mannequin after ‘fighting’ them for first time (aka bantering and teleporting them around for 30 minutes to keep them distracted otherwise Creed would be mad)*
well she's a famous actor on the side right? so I imagined Team Heartless having a seemingly small mission at a theater because some of their actors who were magic users went missing (HMM) and it just so happens that Loralei is one of the main actresses in this play. So as things would go Alchemy is chosen to step in. I half way through writing this forgot lots of what I was going to write but it will play out as almost a murder mystery of for a traitor then eventually there is a grand revile that Loralei is a part of the Witch hunters then idk bam bam they fight its cool then right as its getting intense she disappears in place of a single white rose (cough cough Bandy used his ability) and it leaves everyone confused. Team Heartless finds the missing people and things get resolved. I had a lot more for this but my adhd brain decided to forget half the plot I had imagined
Actually there was a comment thread further down about Bandy being mute and using sign language to both communicate and map out a room of things that he could swap around! The comment thread starts with a user named Jean T. Monty, if you want to find it :D Also yes, *FRENCH MIME*
@@thiagosplace4435 what do you think is your best? Mine is for sure I was making my own Deceit OC(based on Sanders Sides) and I started at “snake” and somehow ended up at “Ral”
Imagine this: Creed getting injured to the point he can’t really walk well during a fight. Then Dock just straight-up grabs him and carries him to safety while they retreat. You can just see Creed's eyes go wide as he gets picked up suddenly by the tall man. Lorelei giving Heartless’ team glares before they just disappear. Next time we see him he has a posh walking cane (sword) and he looks really annoyed. (Feel free to picture anyone from Heartless' team seeing him and their reactions) Edit: changed crutch to posh walking cane sword because people in the replies are creative (you know who you are)
I can imagine a scene where a tired Creed approaches Lance with a collection of paperwork before apologizing because their budget was less than expected and Lance needs to take a pay cut and lance just stares in shock before saying "Wait I get paid for this?!?"
“You’re getting your pay cut for this month Lance. On top of the funds needed to fix the dent in the wall you made…” “Wait wait wait… I get *paid* for this?!” “… Yes. You didn’t know that…?” “No man! I thought my payment was getting to FIGHT people! But I get actual money?! Where the hell is it?! Who’s in charge of paying me!?” “Well when it’s time to give out the funds, just to make it quicker really, we just split it up for each person then hand it over… To…” *Bandy walks in, slowly slurping a VERY expensive drink, with brand new clothing, looking very confused at Creed’s look of disappointment and Lance’s look of rage* “Sup.”
I could imagine Diana using Lance as some sort of hunting dog- she’d just be like “okay, I’ve been tracking these people. Go get em’ boy.” and Lance proceeds to go rampage like some dog after squirrels
I love creed's design because he looks like he's prepared for his own funeral which is how I think he would think about witches. "Remove them or die trying"
I know, but the actual thoughts I had when hearing about that was there are probably thinking about being "the last to go" or something. I always like villains like that, they use the thing they hate to get rid of the rest of that same thing with an intention of abandoning it as soon as they're done.
Makes her a great opposite (foil) for Alchemy. They’re all about self-love and authenticity, while Lorelei’s a phony. The two also share the performer vibe, so there’s that.
French guy here! I have personally never heard anybody refer to a friend as a "belami" ( or it would in two separate words: the adjective "bel", which means beautiful/handsome, and the word "ami", which means friend ) but the interesting thing is the fact that "Bel-Ami" is the name of a really famous novel by the French author Guy de Maupassant which talks about the social-climbing of an ambitious and unscrupulous seducer. So I doubt you'll ever see this comment but at least it will give some extra piece of culture to anyone reading it.
Anyone notice the little star that appears on every design? On Alastor’s coat, Dock’s shirt, Lorelei’s sash and choker, Bandy’s cheeks, Diana’s boots and Lance’s tattoos on his chest. I think this might be The Jury’s logo or smtng but he didn’t mention it and I was wondering.
*i feel like Bendy would say that and Dock would yeet him, looking like a cuddling sinamon roll at a terrified and scarred for life protag cast for Heartless*
*Bandi swaps places with Dock which causes Dock to get impaled. Dock groans and Bandi just mocks him* "Oh, I have this hole in my chest. Boo hoo. USE IT ON THOSE BRATS!!"
Me after seeing and hearing just a tiny bit about Lance: He's probably the opposite to Eira.......they're definitely gonna be shipped together aren't they-
I don't ship it but I do like the idea of Lance as a villain with a crush that's just completely hopeless. Like one minute serious fighting is happening and the next he's ignoring everything else in favor of staring at Eira being pretty
Mans would put a pantomime-esque extravagant narration over ever battle he's in or something, and what if here me out in one battle he's about to start but like diana fires a warning shot at him and he strops the whole way after
I'm enjoying the thought of creed nullifying all the magic and being like "you peasants are useless" And alchemy just starts beating the crap out of creed with their staff that is now just a metal pipe
I’m just imaging the scene from jjba part 5 of mista, narancia, and abbacchio kicking that one dude except it’s River, Alchemy, and Glint kicking Creed since they all can fight pretty decently without magic.
Imagine an arc where Lance and Eira first square off and Lance uses his ability to steal Eira's weapon, forcing him to pull out the ice sword and start using his ability to go all out WHY DO I LOVE THESE CHARACTERS SO MUCH
Maybe Lorelei has Bandy switch her costume for that dramatic moment because they just look like the kind of theatre kids who would coordinate like that.
I feel like Alchemy also really values theatrics so comedically switches out the dust/dirt on the ground into smoke and everyone is like: wtf this is a war not a play and Alchemy is like: may-be but I want the last thing I see to be beautiful and theatric
@@griffindettman98 lorelei screams and everyone closes their eyes and there's a bright flash with a rumbling sound, and when they open their eyes again lorelei's in a black and torn version of her dress with her hair all messy and frizzy and her eyes have black mascara running down like crazy, and bandy is just in the background grinning because damn he deserves a tony for costuming
@Whimsy_Cal Nothing to worry about, the past shall remain forever unchanged, the present shall for now remain as is, and the future is my chance to take.
Bandy's introduction: he slinks into view, "Bandy Bellamis, at your service" does a really deep gentleman's bow with his arm stretched out to the side. Coming back up he moves his arm infront of Creed while doing so his glove disappears and a gift is in the palm of his hand. Love all of these characters!
@@Iloveyousomuchihateyou Pulls off the Magic trick of pulling a bunch of connected cloth out of his pocket except it’s *all* gloves and he’s just swapping the first and last glove in the chain constantly
Dock: Saws off legs River: Um, these are prosthetics... Dock: Stabs his heart Heartless: Sorry dude no heart here! :/ Dock: Stabs himself in the brain Flint: I don-
Head canon: Diana does not get along with Lance, her interactions with him being at best disgusted snark, despite his constant attempts to get on her good side... probably because he keeps trying to nick her gun!
Furthermore: would love to see the other members of The Jury having lost/won a bet if/when he gets the gun. Like Diana is really tired after a fight and collapses into bed tightening her grip on her gun and Lance comes around and Indiana Jone’s style swaps (with Bandy’s help?) the gun with a shoddy replica. Creed sighs and forks over $50.
Head cannon that Bandy develops the BIGGEST crush on Alchemy despite his morally grey nature, both he and they become good friends. I also imagine that he would end up betraying and or spying on the jury for Alchemy and the rest of the squad when he realizes that he personally benefits emotionally from being around them. so basically he goes from chaotic neutral to chaotic good lmao
Why can I imagine Doc creepily singing "Ring around the Rosies" whenever he's nearby? Also I love the idea of Lorelei just having a whole costume change when she finally loses it
I feel like that would be a good introduction to The Jury in general, they meet Dock first, and he ambushes them while creepily singing ring around the rosies, then all the others surround them while the group's attention is on Dock
@German Furman that would be fucking horrifying, I can see dock doing this in a deep voice because if something He's consumed while slowly transferring the ailment to River, because she cant heal herself, while bandy swaps the whole damn team in, ready to just fuck them all up
@@Raptorworld22 ... now i wanna animate something like that :/ or just like... they hear some raspy creepy voice singing it then at the "we all fall down" big cuts start appearing all over a person and dock steps out dragging a knife across himself
Maybe when Bandy is introduced he has a song: “When You’re (Not) With The Jury” that, at first sounds like a recruitment song, but terns into singing about the hypocrisy of the Jury and how he doesn’t care as long as he’s not on the chopping block. Edit: I just realized that it can be a reprise song. The first time he sings it, the shade is more subtle. The next time he sings it is around the end, with the song now outright berating both himself and the Jury as a whole. The first version having lines like “culling rats with smiles on our faces,” “both masochistic and sadistic,” and “too commit the world’s most legal crime.” Maybe he even calls himself “a rabbit who sided with the wolves.”
Ohh, I need this!! I love slightly sympathetic/angsty villains like this. He doesn't want to be with The Jury, but he feels like he has to in order to survive. Over the course of the song it gets less upbeat and more dark, his voice becomes bitter and he gets angrier and angrier. Not at the heroes, but at The Jury
I love this idea! My personal head canon is that Bandy is a wizard, joining the jury for protection or hiding, so he’d be going on about how the Jury is the worst, but at least he’s safe. I don’t know, just my personal thoughts.
Ooo, like 'Born in the USA'? Nobody ever realizes that it's a song belittling America when all people hear is 'I was born in the USA' and the song is fairly upbeat. I never realized it until one of my teachers used it for a lesson, and now I laugh whenever I hear it sung at the Fourth of July. Maybe "When You're (not) with the Jury" could be a song like that!
I just had the mental image of a Bandie switching out Lance for a small potted cactus in the middle of a battle. And then my brain decided that this would be a really funny recurring joke, and each time it's a slightly different small potted cactus... I need to sleep.
Had to switch to desktop just so I could type this all out. I can just imagine a scene where Creed and Heartless are alone/Heartless was captured by the Jury, and Heartless is trying super hard to get away only to get hit by the nullify ability and immediately crashes into a wall. Creed (thinking Heartless just dazed himself) walks up to him while monologuing, only to be put off when Heartless doesn't respond. He sort of nudge-kicks Heartless over on his back and is startled to see how Heartless looks so... dead. Creed has probably seen how durable Heartless is at this point (normal shonen durability, in-universe because he is technically undead and therefore simple things like deadly impacts are decidedly less as long as he has enough surrounding magic to draw from). Maybe it's just enough for Creed to drop the nullify for a moment, only for Heartless to start absolutely speed-draining the area around him ATLA Hama style. Creed reapplies it, which essentially stops Heartless' intake (he was running on fumes beforehand) enough to regain a woozy consciousness, but can hardly move and has to be kept from drifting off several times by Creed as the witchhunter interrogates him. And this is the first time we really get to see both the extent to Heartless' draining as well as Creed's moral compass. Leaning more on how sickly Creed is, perhaps he makes the internal connection that Heartless' magic is more of a mobility aid than simple flaunting of magic. Maybe he struggles justifying taking away Heartless' magic permanently, since unlike other magic-users, it's not simply making them (heavy quotations) "normal" like it would with any other wizard, it's sentencing him to death. And so when Heartless is eventually released from the nullification (whether because his friends bust in to save him or Creed lets him go) now that Heartless is both conscious and significantly distressed by the situation (his absolute need to get away) when he is released he goes more feral/traditional zombielike, in his effort to survive because even not being able to utilize his magic in a traditional sense, he is running a net negative so even just talking to Creed gets harder and harder. --- I also like to think the first time we are introduced to Lorelei is through Alchemy, who is really good at finding all the underground magic meetups. New town, Alchemy finds the local magic scene and meets sugar sweet Lorelei, who through hypnosis and suggestion makes everyone think she is a wizard too. Alchemy drags the rest of the party there to hang out maybe gather information about whatever job they are on, only for Doppel's mirror to be the only one to see that something is *wrong* about Lorelei. Her suggestions just don't stick to him the way they do to everyone else, but his worries are pushed aside by Doppel when he brings it up to him privately. While this is influenced by Lorelei, it's also heavily a part of the two's dynamic, and so Glass (which is just what I'm going to call Doppel's reflection, since although ABD didn't say that was his name outright afaik, it's easier than continuing to call him Doppel's mirror rather than his own name, as it also feels... rather dehumanizing in a way?) just drops it. Only to be revealed as completely right when Lorelei brings in the Jury to arrest the entire underground group, where she has been acting as the inside man to get everyone's details and also to let a handful of the weaker magic users go free after hypnotizing them to tell the story that one of the other members of the group ratted them all out in order to keep herself out of suspicion so that she can keep doing this to every town she goes to. Of course, the party are set to be arrested, only to be saved by Glass. This also puts him into Lorelei's crosshairs, who much later down the line after a whole arc of Doppel and Glass learning to work together and respect each other, shatters Glass who is then reabsorbed into Doppel (they never tried that because of the fear that it would just kill Glass and leave Doppel permanently at half power). After the fight, Doppel willingly splits himself again (which is why character arc is needed, since this was originally his main goal/wish) which brings back Glass. -- I really like the idea of instead or along side of Bandy&Lance teamup is Diana and Lance. Where, when they are working at peak efficiency, Lance is sent in to drive all the witches out into Diana's traps. (This doesn't work often because Lance's desire to fight rather than capture). ABD said he is the attack dog, I imagined more of a hunting dog dynamic. -- I also like the idea of Lance fighting Alchemy. As Lance pulls out his weapons, Alchemy just keeps warping them into ineffective forms. This continues to rile up Lance because all his precious weapons are being destroyed! -- Something really fucked up I thought of also: What if Dock's the reason River has to use prosthetics? Either as backstory or during the story itself, he uses his ability to essentially shatter his own legs and then reflect it onto her body. Another option to this is if he isn't the cause, but doesn't realize her legs are prosthetics. He tries to disable her, only to disable himself. He's usually fine with the few short moments of pain before the transfer, but he is not ready for the fact that it doesn't work.
I really love the Heartless & Creed idea! I was wondering if I can write a fic about your storyline? And if you’d like, I can give you credit for the plot
I'd love to see a scenario where the characters maybe initially don't know about Lorelai being part of the Jury and they go to see her show to relax, then one of the protagonists accidentally uses their magic and she detects it, invites them back after the show to meet them or they get a chance to speak to her after the show or something and she gets revealed to be a villain that way?
I was thinking this EXACT thing, that they don't peg her as a member of the Jury because of how Not Evil she looks and it gets them into a Big Mess because of it!
But consider: During Lorelei's final battle with the team, I like to imagine it's Alchemy she's fighting, probably because --she's Alchemy's opposite-- the rest of the party is incapacitated/thrown off too much by her screaming. Because of her song/screeching, Alchemy's forms keep erratically switching around, throwing them off in the battle. But, while they're in a sort of androgynous/middle-form, they finally jab (more like jam) the end of their staff into Lorelei's throat, finally silencing her. _And probably killing her because you don't strike the neck unless you absolutely need to but we don't need to talk about that_ I like to imagine this mental scene in my head as a representation of Alchemy silencing the nay-sayers and anti-magics, the people who put them down all their life for being genderfluid, for having magic, for things they could not control. And it was cathartic.
I thought that Loreli was Dopples opposite as he gets his powers from reflections and if theres no mirrors or glass theres no reflections I paired them up like this: Creed-Heartless Dock-River Loreli-Dopple Bandy-Alchemy Diana-Flint Lance-Eira
Howdy y’all, thanks for stopping by! \(^^)/
And thanks so SO much for all the feedback and enthusiasm that y’all have been giving Concept Corner (and Heartless) so far! This installment took a while to make because I tried to go all out on it, so hopefully it was worth the wait, haha
It’s been amazing to see all the theories and questions, and even fanart(!) that came about after the first one of these - I hope that these villains spark y'all's imaginations just as much! (^^)/
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I’m just here to tell you: you’ve made it so hard to have a favorite villain.. I LOVE ALL OF THEM
I'm absolutely obsessed with your ideas with this,since as a fellow creator I live for fresh ideas with amazing imagination and creativity behind it
I. Am. In. Love. With your stories. I could sit and listen to all you different ideas for hours. If you did a livestream purely for Heartless, to kinda gather ideas for the series or something, I would drop everything and watch. You have made a concept that I *ADORE* and would *LOVE* to see as a comic or animation
I can’t exactly say this isn’t my rational thinking, but I would love to see one of the villains usurp creed, maybe doc or lance, and creed is forced to fall in with the heroes in some way, maybe at first he wants to manipulate one of them into turning the others in, most likely scarf kid (im so sorry I can’t remember names ;d) but maybe he (the scarf kid, but creed could make an interesting one too) could have a one-sided crush for him, and the others could either help creed turn good, or try to anyway. And ice scarf dude with the held of his buddies, get out of that toxic. Idk man it’s late, bad idea but maybe good fanfic 🤷
Heya! I love this video but, I have a feeling, whether it be just me being a simp or just a hunch, I have a feeling that Dock should be voiced by CorpseHusband. Its probably just me being a simp. But, me being me, I literally simp for all of your characters so far. THEIR SO PRETTY
fun fact: sirens were originally bird women! so lorelei's outfit having feathery components actually match even better with the original myth than a mermaid inspired outfit would!
oh, like harpies? or the sirens that Rick Riordan uses in the Percy Jackson books?
@@degreeinnerdology Riordan actually described the sirens in his books fairly close to their traditional appearance. I think the sirens were cursed to be part-bird because they were Persephone's handmaidens and lost her to Hades? Whatever the case, yes, sirens are singing murder birds, so Lorelei is pretty on the nose there.
@@Breve-might-be-here Yes! Demeter cursed her handmaidens to become sirens to search for her :D
God that makes so much more sense than fkn fish ladies
I can totally see her having bird based attacks, too. Like “mocking bird” for mimicry, “nightingale” for hypnosis, “Swan Song” as like a super move which hurts her, too.
Oooo what if Creed was born a wizard and hated himself for it, desperately searching for ways to rid himself of his magic, and his “curse” is the result of that search, but accidentally extended beyond himself and maybe it’s slowly killing him or something and that’s why he’s so weak? So while Heartless is kept alive by his magic, Creed is being eaten from the inside by his because it needs an outlet or something?
this... i like this. a LOT
Ooo, this is almost exactly what I was thinking! Heartless can die again if he uses too much magic, but Creed can die if he doesn't use his ability enough! It's such an interesting concept!
Me likey
It's also cool to think that Creed might require Heartless to stay alive, if this were the case, fueling his vigor to hunt them down and assemble this team.
@@enigmatic_lizard2923 ohohohohoho yessssss
ABD just went "I'm gonna give the gays everything they want."
It's me, I'm the gays.
why villain bad
when hot
I am also the gays
I’m also the gays
Mom said to share the gay
I am gays as well
I just noticed that each of the Jury has a 4 pointed star symbol somewhere on their design, and also that Bandy has it in Makeup so his is the only one that isn't a permanent fixture of the clothes, ALMOST LIKE HIS LOYALTY TO THE REST OF THE GROUP IS EPHEMERAL AND CAN BE WASHED AWAY! I've no clue if that was intentional but that is an amazing visual metaphor.
watched a later video where those stars are revealed to be permanent fixtures on their bodies, but the fact that his clothes don't have the logo still stands and the visual design still works great as a metaphor
diana is the love child of the cowboy and roman soldier from night at the museum
GOD THIS COMMENT NEEDS MORE REPLIES ITS SO GOOD
Makes sense. She's just a gay as her dads too uwu
😂 True.
OML YESSSSSS
Not me about to comment this exact sentence before I saw this.
Alex: I did NOT want to draw a whole suit of armour!
Me: ah. Another chance for him to draw a half-naked man. Good for him.
I mean like-
Where's the lie?
win-win situation
I do not see anything wrong with this
@Susan FRISWELL i bet the next concept corner video that would expand on heartless would have the other characters like that one villain flint fought in the tournament, that would also have the king be shirtless too. just to make eira's life a little worse.
Lorelei gets canceled on Twitter and this causes her black swan breakdown
Adghdssj
#Loreleiisoverparty trends on Twitter for three weeks straight
I mean, considering just how far they’re willing to reach to cancel, I can see it.
oh no oh NO OH NO
H e l p this has no business being t h a t funny
I can imagine Lance flirting with Eira just to make him mad during fights until Eira finally embraces his sexuality and just shrugs him off with,"You don't meet my standards."
Basically the equivalent of Nico sayin "You're not my type" to Percy loll
Eyooooo..... rejected xD
Also, wouldn't it be cute if Lance would develop a genuine crush on eira tho?
Lance, falling over in defeat:
@@virgo5051 YES PLEASE I need this in my life bro
"Sorry, I have a boyfriend"
Dock is just the embodiment of the meme: “Call an ambulance! But not for me!”
YES
He's my Favourite
This is the best comment so far
"Call an ambulance" he says as he is cut and bleeding
*He uses his ability*
"But not for me"
Ahahahahaha
If evil costume change Lorelei doesn't have running black eyeliner I'm rioting
YES PLEASE
MHM
THIS IS THE MAGIC TO MY HEARTLESS
Tbh she’d do it for the aesthetic
@@randomhumanbeing5416 she totally woulddd
"we're gay of course we want the villains" I'M SCREAMING
Timestamp?
@@fudgel1126 comment at 1:12!
YEAH I ALSO SAW IT-
@@zozzlez thank you! ❤
OUR GAY LORD IS BACK
Creed: why am I here? just to suffer
-
Creed: everybody is going to die
Heartless: of fun
Eira: Why do you speak?
Creed: To voice my displeasure
Lorelei : Do you ever want to talk about your emotions Creed?
Creed : No
Bandy : I do!!
Diana : We know Bandy.
Bandy : I’m sad :(
Lance : We know Bandy.
@@apollo193 😂 pure gold
@@apollo193CANON😂😂
@@apollo193 PFFT-
When you were talking about Lorelei's 'black swan' moment I was trying to think of ways you could do that without it making whatever was about to happen super obvious or kinda belated. And I was thinking, maybe it could be an environmental effect. She finally has her big public breakdown fighting the magicians and shatters a bunch of glass and she's so unhinged that she doesn't care about her clothing (because she strikes me as the kind of person who would at least pretend to care) and gets it stained with soot or oil or just plain dirt - showing how she's revealing herself as a villain. Then either she's defeated, or they *think* she's defeated, but she turns up later in a fully black dress.
ooh! yeah!
Honestly that would be such a cool visual representation of her doing the big reveal!!
WAIT OMG YES!!!
Or, consider, Carrie moment.
Honestly that sounds awsome
Eira: I come from the Ice Kingdom
Dopple: I come from a steampunk city
Bandy: I come from the kingdom of France
Brandy: *Sings the France anthem over winning any fight*
Bandy: Oui oui baguette!
Le festin intensifies
Pomme de terre
✨Croissan✨
So you called Lance the "Attack Dog" and I imminently Imagined Lorelei calling him "Puppy" in a condescending tone, but with a sugary sweet voice.
Oml yes please
Or he beats up the Heartless gang, and she gives him chin scratchies lol.
“Aww! Who’s a good dragon knight? You are! Yes you are!”
“The hell?! Get off me wo- Oh. That’s actually really nice.”
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios I really like that idea haha.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios dragon boy wants his scritchies
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios that's adorable
I like to imagine that the world these characters live in is all magical and then there's France just normal France
so basically nobody in france has a single clue that there is this group thing that is trying to kill people because they were born different
why can I just imagine that the villains go to France to like have a break from all the villain work they've done because nobody in France knows about them.
@@I_luv_raspberrys There's a revolution going on and their just in the back eating croissants and having a blast
@@M4__1n why do i find that funny
@@I_luv_raspberrys like, Marie Antoinette is literally being decapitated in front of them and they just sit back eating some crossiants and having a conversation about how they're gonna beat the heartless gang while there are screams and sounds of heads being chopped off in the background
"I wanted him to look like a mix between a vampire and a librarian."
Imagine if one of the main characters taunted creed upon their first meeting, saying something like "What are you, a vampire librarian? You gonna bite us? Tell us to "shush"? Ohh, I'm so scaared!"
That is Doppel, 100% Doppel
it would be doppel and the other one would tell him to be quiet bc he’s scared
i- Alchemy and the og dopple would make anyone cry
I imagine a one-off where he's just trying to read a book in peace and the other members of the jury keep on barging in the room he's in and being loud and annoying
He switches from the library, to the kitchen, to his room, and anywhere until he's like at a park and he runs over the main heros
They're ready to fight him but he just storms out instead and leaves them confused
doppel or flint would say this
My thought process when he started sketching out Diana:
“Beeg womun?”
“Beeg womun with _gun?”_
“Beeg *_cowgal with gun?!”_*
A giant woman!
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Thats all I want to see
thicc cowgirl,,,
Caught me off guard haha beeg in Scotland means ugly but I gotcha eventually haha
Yee
Creed: help us kill these magic people
Bandy: why would I?
Creed: we'll pay you
Bandy: lmao ok
It's the 'Kevin, no' vine!
Bandy: You son of a bitch I’m in
This is what actually happened.
@@alfie-_ you're right i was the money
lowkey reminds me of double trouble
i'll leave now
Headcannon:
Dock is a very good cook. Dock occasionally commits arson on special events.
Dock can have a little bit of arson, as a treat
Only occasionally?
@@0gammag0 ‘Special Events’, such as ‘Lance stubbed his toe’ and ‘Bandy tripped over himself’, y’know, things that *require* some *fireworks* to celebrate properly!
@@apollo193HE SO WOULD😂
Bandy: I may be the clown, but you're the entire ass circus
This got a laugh out of me
Bandy at some point to the Jury
Ace Attorney Investigations much?
Okay that was funny and I can see him saying that
not this making me laugh 💀
Lance as a character is basically the embodiment of the “hoarding is good” mentality
Dragon become person
If you don’t hoard, I don’t trust you
Goku
Basically he's Gilgamesh from Fate and I like that....
Abandon humanity turn to dragon
ABD: **draws literally anyone**
me: "OH NO THEY'RE HOT"
alastor creed could get it,,,,
@@frog2573 EXACTLY. E-FUCKING-XACTLY!!!!!!!!
MARRY ME LORELEI
Me:Y’all thirsty
Also me: *simping for lance and bandy*
So true TwT
I’d like to imagine that if all of the villains went to an interview, it would go something like this:
Interviewer: “So, why did you join the Jury?”
Creed: *dramatic voice* “I remember it clearly. It was a cold night in December, and a snowstorm had just hit…” (continues to info dump his traumatic backstory for half an hour)
Lorelei: “I want to eliminate all evil from the world! *winky smiley sparkle shine* “
Lance: “Violence! Violence! Violence! Viole-“
Dock: “So have you ever amputated an arm? No? You’re missing out. Well, point is, the feel of the saw going through a magic-user’s flesh [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]”
Diana: “I always collect my dues. Always. Whether it be days, weeks, months, years… Every debt gets paid. No exceptions.”
Bandy: “The Starbucks on the corner has a barista that puts 0.1% more whipped cream on people’s drinks than normal. I go there every day, order a drink, and take that 0.1% off to store in my fridge… soon, I’ll have a whipped cream business rivaled only by that of the Heartless gang! Therefore, by joining this group, I can get rid of my competition, fair and square…Oh, and I was bored.”
You have no idea how much joy this brought me. Thank you for being awesome
this is beautiful and severely underrated
THIS IS ACCURATE OMG 😂😂😂😂😂
The Dock part got me, holy crap. XD
This is amazing, Bandy had me wheezing.
Dock: Has a license to suicide.
Protagonists: Haha, that’s useless.
Protagonists: ... Wait, what was your power again?
o h d e a r g o d
Oh my
OH NO!!
ABD: “he looks sickly”
Alister: *has abs*
another case of non-canonical fan service-
Wait he does? I thought he was just scrawny lol ^^; I guess since he has a big puffy shirt I didn't really think about it
@@morganjolly4227 It might just be the way ABD draws the base, but I just think it's funny
@@nmalm2114 Lol yea I agree 😄 I went back and watched it and it’s part of the way he does the base. I’m thinking it might be a symmetry line? It didn’t quite look like it was meant to be a stomach line
@@morganjolly4227 you might be right..... still
Lance: *exists*
Eira: goddammit it
GAY
Poor Eira, surrounded by hot shirtless men with fire theming
@@somedragonbastard he may or may not have a curse
Why did this make me laugh so gard
I ship it
Pov: Dock stubs his toe and transfers the pain to you because you look at him
MY TOE
OW
GOOD SIR WHAT DID I DO TO YOU
no no, to Lance. X]
"Hey ___ look at me. Bitch." (stabs himself)
i stubbed my toe yesterday and it started bleeding thx
Dock stepping on a fucking LEGO brick:
I like how Dock has a old historic design to opposite River's future-istic outfit!
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE that's so cool dude
That's so cool! I didn't even notice that either!
"They're witches, they use magic, so the bad guys should beee"
Scientists!
"Witch hunters"
Oh, oh yea that makes a bit more sense I guess.
Beware the phlebotomist, he'll poke ya!
hahahhaha I love this
Why is this me
“They’re making rockets to space! What a horror!”
This is an amazing idea though! Could you imagine a guild of evil mad scientists working to become stronger than magic? It could even tie into Heartless’s backstory where a scientist tried to live forever by fusing magic and technology.
Some Idiot: YoU cAn'T hEaL yOuRsElF bY hurting Others!
Dock: Observe
*dock
@@Jimz729 thank you for correcting my spelling
@@lexisking152 yw
Remote Martyrdom as a name for this power?
Dock used Giga drain!
ABD flipping the canvass while drawing Bandy's hands:
Bandy: *~Jazz hands~*
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw that
yes.
FACTS😂
Heartless: why am I undead?
Creed: why am I alive?
lol so true
Yes lol
One wants to live
One wants to die lol
underrated comment
Beautiful
A cool idea for the villains “powers” would be that their “Curses” that have been caused by magic and that could play in why the Jury wants to destroy magic so more people don’t end up like them
That would be so cool and interesting to play with
THIS!!! THIS IS SUCH A GOOD CONCEPT YOUR BRAIN IS VERY WRINKLY
@@starrysymphonies uR bRaiN iS VeRY WRInkLy
Ah yes, *hair flip* I know *wink-wonk*
I love this
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee amazing
Creed: **Nullifies Flint's power**
Flint, a professional fighter: Oh no! anyways
--Flint: -_-snaps creed's spinal cord in half-_---
This comment needs more attention it had me DYING 😂😂
This is exactly what I want to see
OMGSHJEEHWHWgagdgdhhehe
this is the type of content i am here for
It's funny, Lorelei is a place in Germany where I live. Legend has it that a woman sits and sings on a mountain. There is a river flowing next to the mountain and the drivers of the ships would drive on the shallows becaus of her singing and get stuck, which leads to them dying. That the character Lorelei is a dancer/singer fits the legend pretty well. It was just something that I noticed and wanted to point out. Greetings from Germany!
That is so cool
Oh my god i thought for a second your name was Ann-Kathrin Biatch 😭
HELL YE I had the tale of her in my german exam I really liked her before that so I already knew quite a bit of stuff
That’s actually really cool😮
OH MY GAH IMAGINE LORALEI HAVING A GERMAN ACCENT THO
IT FITS HER SOMEHOW
ABD: “Morally grey!”
Me: Ah, so chaotic neutral
I just came back from watch graystillplays lol
As a dm, this gives me ptsd
@@respectfulevil9022 same
But can we make it morally gay?
@@pinkazumarill8942
just make all of them gay while we're at it
bruh imagine Alastor going up against river and thinking "HA! CAN'T HEAL YOURSELF NOW! WHATEVER WILL YOU DO, YOU PUNY WITCH!" And then River just knees him in the gut.
"mY gUT"
Flint, sitting there, knowing that A; her magic doesn’t even work on her and that B; she is about to *deck* him: Keep talking
“Fwoooooouck”
@@randomhumanbeing5416
flint: can you grab some popcorn?
alchemy: sure. drinks?
eira: on it.
Thank you. I didn't know I needed this.
abd: here's some villains, theyre super evil
everyone: hot. hot hot people, very hot, incredibly attractive, pretty. hot pretty people. hot❤️
Aesthetically pleasing, very aesthetically pleasing
😂😂😂 as I thought, I was correct 😂😂
They really do be lovable for a villain
MEEE
@Trin Silvers Oh it's definitely the art style
Bisexuality kicks in
Imagining Bandy popping up, grabbing Lance, saying “Ciao!” And replacing the two of them with a dresser or something is the funniest thing ever
Yes. I love!
Bandy just creates Mannequins in his free time to have something reliable to swap his allies with, except they all have *terribly drawn* faces on them and/or are in weird poses, adding insult to injury when the heroes are moments away from beating a villain only to have them replaced by a cartoony mannequin version of them with button eyes and straw hair
@@apollo193 Diana: isn’t it weird how Bandy has life sized Mannequins of us?
Creed: Bandy has life sized mannequins of all his friends.
Bandy: *jingles in agreement*
@@benduford3746 *cuts to Bandy in his little workshop finishing up putting some details on a newly made Alchemy mannequin after ‘fighting’ them for first time (aka bantering and teleporting them around for 30 minutes to keep them distracted otherwise Creed would be mad)*
POV: Bandy got hungry and replaced an entire cabinet full of Cheese with Lancers weapon hoard.
I feel like Lorelei would interact with the main characters at one point and not even know that she is a villain.
I imagine her default go to voice as the girl from the I kissed a boy animatics from TDI so she sounds very cute and peppy but lmao she be evil
my head canon is that when they first meet her they think she is on their side and they become friends and then she stabs them in the back
@@fisheraser like the lil girl from akame ga kill
@@fisheraser and she makes friends with alchemy and then after the backstabbing, they have a raya/namaari relationship
well she's a famous actor on the side right? so I imagined Team Heartless having a seemingly small mission at a theater because some of their actors who were magic users went missing (HMM) and it just so happens that Loralei is one of the main actresses in this play. So as things would go Alchemy is chosen to step in. I half way through writing this forgot lots of what I was going to write but it will play out as almost a murder mystery of for a traitor then eventually there is a grand revile that Loralei is a part of the Witch hunters then idk bam bam they fight its cool then right as its getting intense she disappears in place of a single white rose (cough cough Bandy used his ability) and it leaves everyone confused. Team Heartless finds the missing people and things get resolved.
I had a lot more for this but my adhd brain decided to forget half the plot I had imagined
Diana: “It’s high moon”
this. is god tier humor.
JDHCJXBDJDB-
YES-
Did you just?-
Jebdbebe this needs more likes!🤣
YES
“A mix between a vampire and a librarian”
That’s the ideal character design and I want 50 more
made this 69 likes, pog
Even though I watched the video, I still read this as "between a vampire and a lesbian"
Am I the only one who loves the idea of Bandy being mute? The one character who talks through his movements and nothing but his bells make sounds
You’re not the only one
*FRENCH MIME*
@@megangrant4124 *FRENCH MIME*
Actually there was a comment thread further down about Bandy being mute and using sign language to both communicate and map out a room of things that he could swap around! The comment thread starts with a user named Jean T. Monty, if you want to find it :D
Also yes, *FRENCH MIME*
@@Breve-might-be-here FRENCH MIME
“My naming things usually turns into a long game of connect the dots”
*_finally, someone understands my logic_*
THATS HOW I MAKE CHARACTERS TOO 😃
OMG SAME HERE!!!! I do this ALL the time!!!
Also VIRGIL!!!!! love your profile pic😍😍😍😍😍😍
I just think of what sounds nice and then bullshit my way into a logic that makes sense
I translate random caracteristcs of my characters to japanese.
@@thiagosplace4435 what do you think is your best? Mine is for sure I was making my own Deceit OC(based on Sanders Sides) and I started at “snake” and somehow ended up at “Ral”
Creed: You're supposed to be leaving for your mission.
Bandy and Lance painting eachothers' nails: Not until the paint dries.
Y e s
Creed: (facepalming) Please just use mine, it dries quicker.
(Enter Lorelie, suddenly behind Creed)
Lorelie: It's *mine* actually, he borr-
Creed: (embarrassed) Shut up!
@@thesunwillneverset YES
@@thesunwillneverset
Yesssss!
I’m getting found family vibes from this and like yes please????
Imagine this:
Creed getting injured to the point he can’t really walk well during a fight. Then Dock just straight-up grabs him and carries him to safety while they retreat. You can just see Creed's eyes go wide as he gets picked up suddenly by the tall man. Lorelei giving Heartless’ team glares before they just disappear.
Next time we see him he has a posh walking cane (sword) and he looks really annoyed. (Feel free to picture anyone from Heartless' team seeing him and their reactions)
Edit: changed crutch to posh walking cane sword because people in the replies are creative (you know who you are)
I love this! This is just ✨perfect✨
“Short bossy babie man picked up is *angy* because he doesn’t look as intimidating with crutches”
@@kristinschoensiegel2223
XD also:
Alastor: “I hate this”
Dock: “you need this”
Alastor: “but I’m not Intimidating!” *Gets Angy*
I raise your crutches with posh walking cane
@@tigerteen3604
Why do I see that
I can imagine a scene where a tired Creed approaches Lance with a collection of paperwork before apologizing because their budget was less than expected and Lance needs to take a pay cut and lance just stares in shock before saying "Wait I get paid for this?!?"
“You’re getting your pay cut for this month Lance. On top of the funds needed to fix the dent in the wall you made…”
“Wait wait wait… I get *paid* for this?!”
“… Yes. You didn’t know that…?”
“No man! I thought my payment was getting to FIGHT people! But I get actual money?! Where the hell is it?! Who’s in charge of paying me!?”
“Well when it’s time to give out the funds, just to make it quicker really, we just split it up for each person then hand it over… To…”
*Bandy walks in, slowly slurping a VERY expensive drink, with brand new clothing, looking very confused at Creed’s look of disappointment and Lance’s look of rage*
“Sup.”
@@apollo193 perfection
@@apollo193 quickly followed by Lance chucking a large assortment of weapons at Bandy only for him to swap out with a teapot
I love how Doc's power is basically just the "No... YOU" MEME.
His magic is the god damn Uno Reverse card
This is the best comment so far
PAHAHAHAHHSGSBDGBSHEDHD
SOMEBODY CALL AN AMBULANCE...
But not for me.
@@Emiken_ 🤣
I could imagine Diana using Lance as some sort of hunting dog- she’d just be like “okay, I’ve been tracking these people. Go get em’ boy.” and Lance proceeds to go rampage like some dog after squirrels
*y e s*
I like this
Omg I love that💜💚
diana keeps a bag of dog treats on her just for him
@@saffronsagodlyherb5838 If Lance acts like a weapon hording dragon what if inside of dog treats he just gets handed shiny things
b-but.. how villain, if hot?
How villain if not hot?
@@redbloodtea5367 but... how villain if same trauma as me??
How villain if not trauma?
@@redbloodtea5367 BUT.. how villain... if gay... i am gay....
@@veronikakalinova6474 how villian if not gay?
Lance using orange is a good choice. Orange is associated with greed, but also honor. It's a bold color tied to rage. It's perfect for him
Diana's powers could be amplified during a full moon... Or, as she calls it, "high moon".
HIGH MOON DHKJFDGSHJGF
You did not. Thank you
AGSHJAVSGHAJK
It's high moon my drillas
it's high moon BITCH
bANG BANG BANG
I love creed's design because he looks like he's prepared for his own funeral which is how I think he would think about witches. "Remove them or die trying"
Yes. Just.. yes
the 'hates magic but basically has magic' gives me internalized homophobia vibes
I KNOW
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!
how did I not make that connection I-
I know, but the actual thoughts I had when hearing about that was there are probably thinking about being "the last to go" or something. I always like villains like that, they use the thing they hate to get rid of the rest of that same thing with an intention of abandoning it as soon as they're done.
Yoooooooooo same hat
“His name is lance”
Me: *raises hand*
“No coronation to voltron”
Me: *puts down hand*
😂😂😂😂
Lol
Tnx for reminding me to rematch voltron when I’m done with this vid
Rewatch *
I feel like Lorieli’s design makes a lot more sense being white, since she puts on that facade of being a generally good person
Makes her a great opposite (foil) for Alchemy. They’re all about self-love and authenticity, while Lorelei’s a phony.
The two also share the performer vibe, so there’s that.
White can also mean death too :D
@@Zephirite. Plus, Alchemy is quite colorful, while Lorelei is pure white.
Reminds me of… GRIFFIIIIITH!!!
@@lerombus6020
Bruh I read that as grifindor for a min
ABD: "Diana's power is-"
Me: *GUN, HER POWER IS GUN*
The four elements, air, water, fire, GUN
[During the inevitable nemesis fight]
Diana: I cast GUN!
Flint: I cast FIST!
@@acehealer4212 never bring a gun to a fist fight, unless it's school
She is the Whole Horse
Her power is those thighs are you kidding
Someone: *stabs Dock*
Dock: *slowly pulls out an Uno Reverse*
Dude I read this and then died of laughter
Same XD
"Call an Ambulance! Call and Ambulance!!!
But NOT FOR ME!"
*you should have gone for the head*
*NO-*
@@slimetank394 _LITERALLY_ HIS ABILITY
French guy here! I have personally never heard anybody refer to a friend as a "belami" ( or it would in two separate words: the adjective "bel", which means beautiful/handsome, and the word "ami", which means friend ) but the interesting thing is the fact that "Bel-Ami" is the name of a really famous novel by the French author Guy de Maupassant which talks about the social-climbing of an ambitious and unscrupulous seducer. So I doubt you'll ever see this comment but at least it will give some extra piece of culture to anyone reading it.
Gotta love it when themes withine a character come together like this
I love this❤❤❤
Everyone: is smol
Dock: *heavy breathing*
XD
Yeah like why is he so huge compared to the others?
@@whiterose8775 I love it tho
@@thespookiestghost21011 I mean, I didn’t say I didn’t like it just, he looks like a giant.
He's the dad of the group
Anyone notice the little star that appears on every design? On Alastor’s coat, Dock’s shirt, Lorelei’s sash and choker, Bandy’s cheeks, Diana’s boots and Lance’s tattoos on his chest. I think this might be The Jury’s logo or smtng but he didn’t mention it and I was wondering.
Also the star was on Diana’s shoulder
It’s ok Dock’s mask as well
@@Beezer-of9kf and his chest
It's a nice way to tie up all the designs to convey they are a group! It's a good way of visual storytelling!! I should do this lmao
“This is Lance. He has rabies.” -Creed or Bandy at some point. (Yeets angry klepto at opponents like the Scp foundation yeets D-Class)
I laughed an unnecessary amount at this comment
**Immediately forgets all their names**
*i feel like Bendy would say that and Dock would yeet him, looking like a cuddling sinamon roll at a terrified and scarred for life protag cast for Heartless*
Lance casually using his ability to take off Bandys clothing and making him naked, "This is Jack in the box, he doesn't like to shut up."
This comment gave me life.
*Bandi swaps places with Dock which causes Dock to get impaled. Dock groans and Bandi just mocks him*
"Oh, I have this hole in my chest. Boo hoo. USE IT ON THOSE BRATS!!"
wow that is genius
Lmfao-
“This *still hurts* Bandy!!”
“EVEN BETTER :D”
@@apollo193
Hahaha!
I LOVE THIS SMCH
imagine if when Creed uses his nullification ability it leeches color out of the surroundings and makes everything monochrome
that be so cool visually! I'd love to see that in action!!
I need this
Oh hell yeah
That is such a cool idea!
@Susan FRISWELL which is why he looks so sickly
Me after seeing and hearing just a tiny bit about Lance: He's probably the opposite to Eira.......they're definitely gonna be shipped together aren't they-
I'd imagine so. But...
"They're opposites"
Me:
Soooo... Lance be straight-
Yeah, probably
Im already guilty of that--
IwI
I don't ship it but I do like the idea of Lance as a villain with a crush that's just completely hopeless. Like one minute serious fighting is happening and the next he's ignoring everything else in favor of staring at Eira being pretty
@@somedragonbastard okay but that sounds really cute and funny-
lance: *breaths*
eira: THIS OFFENDS ME IN A GREATLY MANNER
XD I love this
And he would totally talk like that too XD
Eira: “And I took that personally”
Lance: *starts breathing harder*
BANDY FEELS LIKE THE KIND OF PERSON TO JUST GO "Plot twist!"
Mans would put a pantomime-esque extravagant narration over ever battle he's in or something, and what if here me out in one battle he's about to start but like diana fires a warning shot at him and he strops the whole way after
He would break the fourth wall for sho
YES😂❤❤
Bandy: this is boring… PLOT TWIST
Eira: what in th-
Heartless: FUCK
@@ThezillyestIdiotpretty much😂😂😂
Creed’s sketches: cool drawings of the character
Dock’s sketches: “L O R G E”
Cem
*Diana is on the screen*
Me, being a bisexual: DaMNnnN
*Lance is on the screen*
Me, still being a bisexual disaster: DAAAMNNNNN
Same
omg yassssss
God yes
Me, a bisexual: Everyone is husbando and waifu
This is a mood I feel in my pansexual soul. Deeply.
That call out really didn't need to hit that hard.
"He is basically a self-serving smooth talking Cheshire Cat style character"
Joke's on you, im into that shit!
You called for me?
Samee
Mood
ABD: “People were asking if Lance was single.”
Me:
“So how about Bandy?”
Me: I know he’d probably lynch me but how about Creed?
Me: Are any of them single? (Cries in bisexual)
docks tiny sketches: _hee hee bird man :)_
docks final sketch: _CRYPTIC BIRD MAN_
ABSOLUTE UNIT bird man
Lance: Exists
Literally everyone: *HUZZAH A PRETTY BOY*
HUZZAH A PRETTY *SHIRTLESS* BOY
@@megangrant4124 I read these like Dr. Doofinshmirts and I love it
*lance exists*
Eria's closeted homosexuality:
"Im in danger:)"
But Eira x Flint? Or Eira x Ice King?
Oh shit Eira is shipped with a lot of dudes.
@@exammole4545dude I just can’t stay away from the red and blue ships, can I?
I don't know why I like this so much and it scares me
But like bandy tho- 👀👀
@@exammole4545 I do love a good childhood friend love story! And a good knight-royal love story.
I'm enjoying the thought of creed nullifying all the magic and being like "you peasants are useless"
And alchemy just starts beating the crap out of creed with their staff that is now just a metal pipe
I’m just imaging the scene from jjba part 5 of mista, narancia, and abbacchio kicking that one dude except it’s River, Alchemy, and Glint kicking Creed since they all can fight pretty decently without magic.
Imagine an arc where Lance and Eira first square off and Lance uses his ability to steal Eira's weapon, forcing him to pull out the ice sword and start using his ability to go all out WHY DO I LOVE THESE CHARACTERS SO MUCH
Also also maybe Lance can't keep the ice sword from melting, so it's effectively the only weapon he can't take for himself and use against them!
@@katherinehavegreen515 AAAAH THATS SO GOOD
Maybe Lorelei has Bandy switch her costume for that dramatic moment because they just look like the kind of theatre kids who would coordinate like that.
"Bandy, if I ever have a villainous breakdown, I need you to swap me into this [points to the black swan getup] outfit" "sure lol"
I feel like Alchemy also really values theatrics so comedically switches out the dust/dirt on the ground into smoke and everyone is like: wtf this is a war not a play and Alchemy is like: may-be but I want the last thing I see to be beautiful and theatric
@@saffronsagodlyherb5838 Eira: What’s wrong with you? No, honestly, what is ACTUALLY wrong with them?
Or maybe when Lorelei breaks down Bandy is just like "lol I think you need this" (switches her costume)
@@griffindettman98 lorelei screams and everyone closes their eyes and there's a bright flash with a rumbling sound, and when they open their eyes again lorelei's in a black and torn version of her dress with her hair all messy and frizzy and her eyes have black mascara running down like crazy, and bandy is just in the background grinning because damn he deserves a tony for costuming
I just imagine bandy swapping his empty coffee cup for someone else's fresh cup in the jury HQ
Edit: I am an idiot
@@eldritchgod4308 we all make mistakes, don't worry
@@whxmsii My first mistake was letting you mortals gain sapience
my second mistake was writing 'bendy' instead of 'bandy'
@@eldritchgod4308 oh..Well, now I feel like an idiot-
Because I don't understand the first half of your comment (No offense)
@Whimsy_Cal Nothing to worry about, the past shall remain forever unchanged, the present shall for now remain as is, and the future is my chance to take.
Bandy's introduction: he slinks into view, "Bandy Bellamis, at your service" does a really deep gentleman's bow with his arm stretched out to the side. Coming back up he moves his arm infront of Creed while doing so his glove disappears and a gift is in the palm of his hand. Love all of these characters!
No.... No taking off the gloves... It's a Disney rule....
@@Iloveyousomuchihateyou Takes off his glove to show off what’s underneath…
It’s another glove-
@@apollo193 NOOOOO-
@@Iloveyousomuchihateyou Pulls off the Magic trick of pulling a bunch of connected cloth out of his pocket except it’s *all* gloves and he’s just swapping the first and last glove in the chain constantly
Dock: Saws off legs
River: Um, these are prosthetics...
Dock: Stabs his heart
Heartless: Sorry dude no heart here! :/
Dock: Stabs himself in the brain
Flint: I don-
God this is gold!
* hysterical laughter*
omg-
*WHEEZE*
bro you did not have to come at him like that- i greatly appreciated it tho-
Head canon: Diana does not get along with Lance, her interactions with him being at best disgusted snark, despite his constant attempts to get on her good side... probably because he keeps trying to nick her gun!
Furthermore: would love to see the other members of The Jury having lost/won a bet if/when he gets the gun. Like Diana is really tired after a fight and collapses into bed tightening her grip on her gun and Lance comes around and Indiana Jone’s style swaps (with Bandy’s help?) the gun with a shoddy replica. Creed sighs and forks over $50.
He'd be the embodiment of a pack rat but with weapons xD
Alex: Mentions how Lance and Bandy would be partnered together a lot
Me: *envisions a buddy-cop style dynamic* So we're shipping Landy now
hopping on that Landy train hhhhhhhhh
Great ship name! I'm for this.
What about BANCE
I’m in for it! EEEEEE
I ship it
Head cannon that Bandy develops the BIGGEST crush on Alchemy despite his morally grey nature, both he and they become good friends. I also imagine that he would end up betraying and or spying on the jury for Alchemy and the rest of the squad when he realizes that he personally benefits emotionally from being around them. so basically he goes from chaotic neutral to chaotic good lmao
OMG I CAN SEE IT
Morally grey?
Part of the villain team?
Cunning and deceptive?
*Jester?*
I- I love him.
Observe; Dimentio from Super Paper Mario
Gotta love those trickster jester who are willing to work for the best bidder and for the LOLs of pranking his co-workers!!??XD
I just feel like Diana Shikari would have the catchphrase “it’s high moon”
She’s gotta be voiced by matt Mercer then, no exceptions
@@celtarican630 yes
Ahhhhhhh,
Yes.
FUCK YEEEESSS
Or "it's time to sleep sugar"
Why can I imagine Doc creepily singing "Ring around the Rosies" whenever he's nearby? Also I love the idea of Lorelei just having a whole costume change when she finally loses it
I feel like that would be a good introduction to The Jury in general, they meet Dock first, and he ambushes them while creepily singing ring around the rosies, then all the others surround them while the group's attention is on Dock
@German Furman that would be fucking horrifying, I can see dock doing this in a deep voice because if something He's consumed while slowly transferring the ailment to River, because she cant heal herself, while bandy swaps the whole damn team in, ready to just fuck them all up
@@Raptorworld22 ... now i wanna animate something like that :/ or just like... they hear some raspy creepy voice singing it then at the "we all fall down" big cuts start appearing all over a person and dock steps out dragging a knife across himself
Dock: Ring around a rosy~! pockets full of posy~!
Team Heartless: *running and screaming from the plague doctor rat boi*
I would *R U N* if I heard him singing Ring around the Rosie
Lorelei fawning over Creed without realizing he doesn't feel love: 😍
Bandy: ...I'm gonna tell her.
Diana: Don't you dare!
Why did I read Dianna's part with a country accent (cries in Texan)
YES
@@Ank_Thee_Eyeless_WitchI DID TOO HELP
Maybe when Bandy is introduced he has a song: “When You’re (Not) With The Jury” that, at first sounds like a recruitment song, but terns into singing about the hypocrisy of the Jury and how he doesn’t care as long as he’s not on the chopping block.
Edit: I just realized that it can be a reprise song. The first time he sings it, the shade is more subtle. The next time he sings it is around the end, with the song now outright berating both himself and the Jury as a whole. The first version having lines like “culling rats with smiles on our faces,” “both masochistic and sadistic,” and “too commit the world’s most legal crime.” Maybe he even calls himself “a rabbit who sided with the wolves.”
@Kali Schepers go for it just let me know when it’s done
Ohh, I need this!! I love slightly sympathetic/angsty villains like this. He doesn't want to be with The Jury, but he feels like he has to in order to survive. Over the course of the song it gets less upbeat and more dark, his voice becomes bitter and he gets angrier and angrier. Not at the heroes, but at The Jury
@@snailkid3829 I’m thinking it would start with out like a yanky doodle dandy type
I love this idea! My personal head canon is that Bandy is a wizard, joining the jury for protection or hiding, so he’d be going on about how the Jury is the worst, but at least he’s safe. I don’t know, just my personal thoughts.
Ooo, like 'Born in the USA'? Nobody ever realizes that it's a song belittling America when all people hear is 'I was born in the USA' and the song is fairly upbeat. I never realized it until one of my teachers used it for a lesson, and now I laugh whenever I hear it sung at the Fourth of July. Maybe "When You're (not) with the Jury" could be a song like that!
Lance: ×is a black knight×
Lance: ×gets his leg cut off× TIS' BUT A SCRATCH!
IT'S JUST A FLESH WOUND
@@bet3476
Eira: BUT YOUR WHOLE LEG'S CHOPPED OFF!
Lance: No it's not.
Shall we call it a draw?
@@degreeinnerdology oml, I cant😭
@@degreeinnerdology
Lance: THE BLACK KNIGHT ALWAYS TRIUMPHS! ×hops off into battle×
I desperately need a dark swan version of Lorelei, I love when the “innocent” character snaps.
yesssss
Mood
Lorelei's black choker is a nice touch. makes people realize that hinted to her being a baddie when going back.
I just had the mental image of a Bandie switching out Lance for a small potted cactus in the middle of a battle. And then my brain decided that this would be a really funny recurring joke, and each time it's a slightly different small potted cactus... I need to sleep.
Perfect.
Bonus: the cactus gets slightly bigger everytime
@@saltysunflowersugar7826 Near the end of the story, the cactus is taller than Lance himself.
why is this hilarious
Genius
I just imagined River suplexing Dock with Dock throwing out Shakespearean curses.
CANON
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE
AND FLINT JUST LOOKS ON STIFELING LAUGHTER WITH A PROUD DAD/OLDER BROTHER LOOK ON HIS FACE
@@plantlover3741 Y.e.s.
Make. This. HAPPEN!
“The black knight appears in many legends and myths”
My brain “‘tis but a flesh wound”
Had to switch to desktop just so I could type this all out.
I can just imagine a scene where Creed and Heartless are alone/Heartless was captured by the Jury, and Heartless is trying super hard to get away only to get hit by the nullify ability and immediately crashes into a wall.
Creed (thinking Heartless just dazed himself) walks up to him while monologuing, only to be put off when Heartless doesn't respond. He sort of nudge-kicks Heartless over on his back and is startled to see how Heartless looks so... dead. Creed has probably seen how durable Heartless is at this point (normal shonen durability, in-universe because he is technically undead and therefore simple things like deadly impacts are decidedly less as long as he has enough surrounding magic to draw from).
Maybe it's just enough for Creed to drop the nullify for a moment, only for Heartless to start absolutely speed-draining the area around him ATLA Hama style. Creed reapplies it, which essentially stops Heartless' intake (he was running on fumes beforehand) enough to regain a woozy consciousness, but can hardly move and has to be kept from drifting off several times by Creed as the witchhunter interrogates him.
And this is the first time we really get to see both the extent to Heartless' draining as well as Creed's moral compass. Leaning more on how sickly Creed is, perhaps he makes the internal connection that Heartless' magic is more of a mobility aid than simple flaunting of magic. Maybe he struggles justifying taking away Heartless' magic permanently, since unlike other magic-users, it's not simply making them (heavy quotations) "normal" like it would with any other wizard, it's sentencing him to death.
And so when Heartless is eventually released from the nullification (whether because his friends bust in to save him or Creed lets him go) now that Heartless is both conscious and significantly distressed by the situation (his absolute need to get away) when he is released he goes more feral/traditional zombielike, in his effort to survive because even not being able to utilize his magic in a traditional sense, he is running a net negative so even just talking to Creed gets harder and harder.
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I also like to think the first time we are introduced to Lorelei is through Alchemy, who is really good at finding all the underground magic meetups. New town, Alchemy finds the local magic scene and meets sugar sweet Lorelei, who through hypnosis and suggestion makes everyone think she is a wizard too.
Alchemy drags the rest of the party there to hang out maybe gather information about whatever job they are on, only for Doppel's mirror to be the only one to see that something is *wrong* about Lorelei. Her suggestions just don't stick to him the way they do to everyone else, but his worries are pushed aside by Doppel when he brings it up to him privately. While this is influenced by Lorelei, it's also heavily a part of the two's dynamic, and so Glass (which is just what I'm going to call Doppel's reflection, since although ABD didn't say that was his name outright afaik, it's easier than continuing to call him Doppel's mirror rather than his own name, as it also feels... rather dehumanizing in a way?) just drops it.
Only to be revealed as completely right when Lorelei brings in the Jury to arrest the entire underground group, where she has been acting as the inside man to get everyone's details and also to let a handful of the weaker magic users go free after hypnotizing them to tell the story that one of the other members of the group ratted them all out in order to keep herself out of suspicion so that she can keep doing this to every town she goes to.
Of course, the party are set to be arrested, only to be saved by Glass. This also puts him into Lorelei's crosshairs, who much later down the line after a whole arc of Doppel and Glass learning to work together and respect each other, shatters Glass who is then reabsorbed into Doppel (they never tried that because of the fear that it would just kill Glass and leave Doppel permanently at half power).
After the fight, Doppel willingly splits himself again (which is why character arc is needed, since this was originally his main goal/wish) which brings back Glass.
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I really like the idea of instead or along side of Bandy&Lance teamup is Diana and Lance. Where, when they are working at peak efficiency, Lance is sent in to drive all the witches out into Diana's traps. (This doesn't work often because Lance's desire to fight rather than capture). ABD said he is the attack dog, I imagined more of a hunting dog dynamic.
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I also like the idea of Lance fighting Alchemy. As Lance pulls out his weapons, Alchemy just keeps warping them into ineffective forms. This continues to rile up Lance because all his precious weapons are being destroyed!
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Something really fucked up I thought of also: What if Dock's the reason River has to use prosthetics? Either as backstory or during the story itself, he uses his ability to essentially shatter his own legs and then reflect it onto her body.
Another option to this is if he isn't the cause, but doesn't realize her legs are prosthetics. He tries to disable her, only to disable himself. He's usually fine with the few short moments of pain before the transfer, but he is not ready for the fact that it doesn't work.
BRO THIS IS INCREDIBLE I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ALL THESE IDEAS!
I really love the Heartless & Creed idea! I was wondering if I can write a fic about your storyline? And if you’d like, I can give you credit for the plot
All these ideas are just- so fucking brilliant. Alex NEEDS to see these
“We love layers in this house.”
Shrek wants to know your location!
I'd love to see a scenario where the characters maybe initially don't know about Lorelai being part of the Jury and they go to see her show to relax, then one of the protagonists accidentally uses their magic and she detects it, invites them back after the show to meet them or they get a chance to speak to her after the show or something and she gets revealed to be a villain that way?
I mean the whole point of Heartless is that he can't hide his magic at all, so the group even attending the show would be a big, interesting deal!
I was thinking this EXACT thing, that they don't peg her as a member of the Jury because of how Not Evil she looks and it gets them into a Big Mess because of it!
But consider:
During Lorelei's final battle with the team, I like to imagine it's Alchemy she's fighting, probably because --she's Alchemy's opposite-- the rest of the party is incapacitated/thrown off too much by her screaming. Because of her song/screeching, Alchemy's forms keep erratically switching around, throwing them off in the battle.
But, while they're in a sort of androgynous/middle-form, they finally jab (more like jam) the end of their staff into Lorelei's throat, finally silencing her.
_And probably killing her because you don't strike the neck unless you absolutely need to but we don't need to talk about that_
I like to imagine this mental scene in my head as a representation of Alchemy silencing the nay-sayers and anti-magics, the people who put them down all their life for being genderfluid, for having magic, for things they could not control. And it was cathartic.
I thought that Loreli was Dopples opposite as he gets his powers from reflections and if theres no mirrors or glass theres no reflections I paired them up like this:
Creed-Heartless
Dock-River
Loreli-Dopple
Bandy-Alchemy
Diana-Flint
Lance-Eira
fantastic
I would watch that on replay
Stunning. An absolute queen. I simply have to stan
Maybe doppels clone shatters in a fight with loreli?