Panic Attack in Court while Texts Read in Tortured Son Murder Trial
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2023
- DAY 1: Defendant Shanda Vander Ark began exhibiting signs of a panic attack in court as text messages between her and her son, Paul, were read aloud. WARNING: Testimony may be disturbing for some viewers.
Vander Ark, 43, is facing first-degree murder and child abuse charges for the death of her 15-year-old son, Timothy Ferguson, who police found dead and severely malnourished inside the family’s home. Timothy’s older brother Paul, 20, had also been charged days after his mom’s arrest. Together, Vander Ark and her son Paul are accused of a sinister pattern of abuse that may have lasted for years.
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What an unbelievably nasty evil woman!! No wonder her older son is scared of her. Poor little Timothy. It is unbearably sad and tragic, to think how he suffered so much. Hopefully the court will lock the vile woman away for the rest of her life. I think maybe the son is also a victim of fear and mind control, but who knows. Listen how she threatens him. I wonder what will happen to him. And who is going to take care of the younger boy? Certainly no one in this lousy family stepped forward to care for Timothy. I hope “Little Man” has a chance to grow and thrive, far away from his mother.
She plays the victim.. she's a soulless roach.. why give her 5 min 2 breath relax ? WHY??😡 I've seen good ppl /innocent ppl go throu real stress/real health issues & yet DONT get D time needed to compose themselves & here diz monster has the court stopped 4 a "panic attack" break... SHE DONT DESERVE TO BREATHE!!!
PPL LIKE HER DESSERVES THE SAME HELL SHE/they GAVE/give TIMOTHY!!!/ their victims!!
Forgive me LORD, but diz soulless monster should feel the pain she caused ur child a special needs young kid TIMOTHY...
FLY FREE TIMOTHY 🪽
Timothy was verbal. I can imagine him pleading for mercy. Paul is a bully. And his mother knows this and said Paul would be aggressive to Timothy.
@@juliebrownlie5330oh for God sake! 😮
She wasn't having a panic attack when she was abusing her son. Disgusting for her to even involve her other son in the abuse. So evil.
Thats right.Evil going on here for sure.
Narcissists always involve the other children in the abuse/torture of the scapegoat. This is the case in every family I've ever seen where there is a controlling, abusive narcissist (and not even where the abuse was this extreme).
@@le_th_Exactly right!!! Thank you
Yes, me as well.....😮❤🎉
She looked like she was laughing. Let her hear what she did.
Can her lawyer please tell her, that even if she has a gazillion "panic attacks" in court, the trial will not stop.
But it will piss the jury off, so they won't have to deliberate as long.
The surest way to get an appeal. Panic attacks are a real phycological condition and if she is refused the care based on how you feel about it shows bias and a lack of care to be competent to stand trial.. Not wise.
@@guywebster8018while I agree with you that they still need to render aid just in case it’s real. She couldn’t just spam fake panic attacks over and over to halt the trail. Lol It’s like that guy that ran over a bunch of people at a parade. He became so disruptive in trail that they ended up putting him in another room where he heard everything through a headset. Stunts like this only piss off the jury.
@@guywebster8018Does she have a history of panic attacks? As someone who has and has been diagnosed with panic disorder I know what a panic attack looks and feels like and this isn't a panic attack this is just a way for her to get sympathy and hold up proceedings she wasn't having a panic attack while abusing her son
Panic attack???? Really was she having one when she was killing Timothy? She is sick evil
That wasn’t a panic attack. That was a diversion. Can you imagine that child’s panic when he realized he was gonna die? Horrifying.
He was probably honestly relieved at the end. He faced so much pain and fear that closing his eyes the last time probably felt peaceful. I hope at least.
I've unfortunately had too many panic attacks in my time & this could be real. HOWEVER, I fully believe that it was because she knew how damning this evidence was & was panicking at the thought that she will spend the rest of her life in prison. It definitely wasn't out of remorse.
Not even then. For months, as he was tortured and never allowed to rest.
@@mariskelley8831Same here! And they are not pleasant…..I could just imagine what kind of anxiety she was going through there when the Police Officers read her crimes out loud! I am praying they lock her up and throw away the keys forever. Also I am hoping that her future “roommates” are doing a bit of research about this loving, sweet, hot sauce loving mother! Open up, Shanda time for your hourly dose of the “sauce”!!!!!😜 RIP poor Timothy🙏🏼😢🕊️👋🏼🇨🇦
@@4amcripplehow you know he closed his eyes 👀🤔
Imagine the panic she's going to feel when her prison mates find out what she did.
Caged Heat wasn't a bad movie nor wasn't The Big Bird Cage. love those 1970s all women prison flicks.
Honor among thieves
Yeah she will be dealt with for sure!!
I don't know if female inmates care. I can't imagine many of them are model mothers?
This is the only thing giving me hope as I watch this trial.
She has no right to a panic attack.
I believe she will just do this to interrupt the trial
She had no right to kill her 15 year old son, but she still did.
Its her conscience..
She has no conscience, it’s a show
Lori Vallow did the same, didn’t wanted to watched the pictures of the kids.
Could her son take a five minute break whenever he wanted to when her torture became too much? This woman is a monster for what she did and doesn't deserve a break from hearing the awful abusive words in her texts. No rest for the wicked.
Exactly 💯 because she's realizing that she got caught thank God 🙏
No he had to sit on his knees in an ice bath with his hands on his head for 7 hours or more
@@mrhumboldthippyoh my gosh. I haven't followed this and don't think I can. How can people be so evil.
*Sadly, her tortured son wasn't even allowed 5 minutes to use the bathroom!* 😡💔
"Your honor, my murderous client is currently experiencing the tiniest fraction of the distress she caused to her vulnerable, special needs son for the last several horrific years of his life. Could we take a break for a minute, so she doesn't have to suffer?"
--World's most sadly ironic lawyer, 2023
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Mais lui c’est l’argent qui compte le reste il en a rien à faire
THIS! EXACT-A-FKN-LY PRECISELY THIS!
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He actually said justice was served when she was convicted
This is my city, and we are appalled! This woman needs to go away for life.
I dont think it should be live its disturbing, in todays world... war prisioners are treated better than this
Is this Grand Rapids? Or Muskeagan? Just curious..
In any city, around the world...people are sickened by this!
@@FaganCourtthat's exactly what I said. There are ww2 prisoners who weren't tortured half as badly as she tortured her own God damn biological son.
@TheBohemianGranny- I am so shocked that no one around the neighborhood even knew that child was there.
I am shocked that it happened in my birth state.
I've never looked that calm during a panic attack.
Ditto.
Not defending her, but majority of my panic attacks are freeze states. I LOOK calm, but I’ve panicked to the point of disassociation.
@@candicemichellecoaching She didn't freeze, she looked around and her gaze was not the thousand yard stare of dissociation.
Yeah she faked it! It’s so painful to have one and she shows none of that!
@@candicemichellecoaching
Mine are very painful chest pains and I grimace and turn red and can’t breathe and hyperventilate and am in great distress! She is faking it!
Narcissists can't handle having their true, monstrous selves publicly revealed where everyone can see the monster they truly are.
She's an abusive, control-freak abuser. She does not deserve anyone's empathy.
You're so right they hate when the truth is presented to them she's nothing than a drama queen but they do want attention negative or positive that's how narcissists work she's a cold hearted evil individual
Narcissists can’t stand to have anything wrong with themselves. She will never be remorseful because she thinks it was all justified. She should have given the boy up rather than abuse him. Paul has attachment disorder. I don’t think he had any motherly love either. He tries to navigate her wrath. He has not developed normal emotions and feelings. He wants so much to please his mother. He never will because there is no pleasing a controlling narcissist. He is warped. She is the mastermind behind this evil.
Narcissistic people think their are right 💯 of the time when they are 9 times out of ten wrong. I know I live with a few. I tell them you’re wrong.
@@Dustandfuzz 🎯
So well put! She's a malignant narcissist.
She absolutely disgusts me. She with her attorney, is trying to blame everything on the older special needs son. Yes he is guilty of abuse, and he is taking accountability. Tim was HER child!! It was HER responsibility to care for him, to make sure he was eating, safe, clothed, and receiving medical attention. The worst part of all she was educated, she worked for the court, for a judge. She knew better!! Another monstrous egg donor. GUILTY
Hearing this makes me wish this state had capital punishment even if only so that she would have the fear of death for what she has done. That said we have to remember that it is best people like this have a good defense not only because sometimes innocent people are accused, but because you want to ensure a convicted defendant can not make a claim that they had ineffective counsel and drag everyone back into court. I cannot imagine she will get less than a life sentence; so I want her to have a great defense and no hope whatsoever of appeal. I feel sorry for the lawyer tbh; but he is actually performing a service that allows for her to spend the rest of her life in prison. I am sure he knows this too.
@@eggs3000 I completely agree with you. It is disgusting that leftist courts have done away with the death penalty for the most inhumane and evil of crimes. Manslaughter - should be death penalty. Rape - should be death penalty. Abuse, torture of child - should be death penalty. The ONE job government is supposed to do for us they are failing at - protect the law abiding citizens and the innocent. Our society is failing.
Plus Paul very clearly only acted the way he did because she told him to. She’s a demon of a human
@Olivertreesleftnutsack I beleive he Paul was afraid of her also. He is pitiful on the stand. He was probably abused himself by her when he was younger
An educated person is not the same as an intelligent person.
wasn't a panic attack that was a sign of guilty conscience.
She has no conscience, is just putting a show.
She's just looking for sympathy, especially when her own awful words are being read aloud in court. How damning, especially with the "hunger strike" situation. Straight up busted.
@@Claudia-lq3ns ah yes I forgotten those words "Sympathy Vote." and "Crocodile Tears." or better a "Load of BS"😃
When Narcissists are blatantly "outed," their only instinct is to try to escape the attack. There's no guilt here, just the intense panic from exposure.
@@americangirlx4nailed it. She's just panicking bc her evil soul is being laid bare for all to see. When she's used to being so well-thought of in public.
That wasn't a panic attack! That was a panic of shame for how she treated her son!😮
I CANT BELIEVE SHES TAKING THE STAND THERES NOTHING SHE COULD SAY I HOPE THE JURY DOESNT ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS. unless its do you know youre demon possessed or are you actually stupid about that too. followed by thats a rhetorical question Imm way more compassionate and forgiving than anyone can handle and this case has angered me more than any other except one where 6 kids were starved and toenails pulled out. 🤬🤬
i agree and disagree she has yet to recognize shame
She has no shame.
@@laylam4241 kind of a paradox im not sure so id say shame panic attack for lack of a better word I agree shes not feeling remorse
It was a ploy for sympathy...she has NO shame in her. Just pure evil.
The delusion that makes defendants like her go to trial rather than plead guilty must be intoxicating. On what planet does this person think they’ll get acquitted?
The most disgusting part about it is they know their guilty and if they take it to trial it could go in a mistrial/found innocent (don’t know how) or not fit for trial absolutely sick she should be charged with the child abuse of the brother as well the psychological torture is unreal
Often if you go to trial it can be annoying for the prosecutor so they will offer another plea to avoid the trial. Typically it's a better plea than the one you are offered prior to trial
@@probrickgamerThey didn’t work this hard to get here and stop because it’s annoying. Only if they think they didn’t make/have a strong case or of jurors seem empathetic to the monster.
Her insistence in testifying had to drive her attorney insane. With her "brilliant legal mind I'm surprised she didn't represent herself. I kinda wish she had, it would have been quite a train wreck.
Once she describes how "sneaky and devious" Timothy was everyone will understand why she tortured her son to death. She's nasty nuts.
What is WRONG with these parents??? Don’t have kids if you don’t want to take care of them!!
@allysampson4289 this is exactly what I believe 😢😢😢
They get money for these children. Unfortunately they are just a paycheck. I worked in the public school system & have seen this with bio children, but it's very common in the Foster System.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder. All narcissists scapegoat one of their children who they use as the whipping boy.
@@allysampson4289 plenty of methods of birth control. Killing a baby isn’t birth control!
One of the issues surrounded home schooling is that there’s no one outside the home interacting with the kids so parents can hide the abuse and neglect. There’s got to be a better way…
It is incomprehensible to me how anyone could do this to another living human being, let alone their own child..... And that goes for the son who participated in it. Disturbing.... this case is so disturbing.
Totally agree!
I heard Vinnie talk about the case, and decided this trial might be a bit too much even for me. I can't start to imagine what life was like for the young victim 😢😢😢😢
Narcisssts...
Borderlines...
Histrionics...
Antisocial...
Sadistics...
All are quite capable of doing this to their own children, but especially the narcissists who chose a scapegoat child as their whipping boy, and anything that goes wrong gets blamed on the family scapegoat. Plus, the narcissist will gaslight all the other children/family members to believe the scapegoat is the problem child, as well, so it tears apart siblings and pits sibling against sibling.
This is standard, narcissistic abuse and it happens every single day, only most scapegoats survive it until they can run away.
This horrible woman was a law school graduate and passed the bar? Are we sure it wasn’t an online law school or diploma mill?
My cats are very particular with their food. Some days I open a can of food and they do not touched. They also eat dry food. Many times I wanted to not buy the can food, but I have no courage. They will eat one day, then maybe none in the next. Food flavor is kind of difficult to figured out with both of my cats. But like I said, because I do get bored with my food, maybe my cats do as well. I could not denied food for a kid, ever.
A lot of times people have "panic attacks" when they realize they're caught and now have to suffer the consequences. Disgusting.
Absolutely correct 👍
It pisses me off, because some of us have REAL panick attacks and sometimes people don’t take us seriously because of people like her, who use these things to get out of situations they don’t want to be in.
She was completely fine when she was abusing her poor son !!! Hopefully she won’t make it another day !!!
I agree. She's a monster👽
Definitely
Locking the fridge and hes supposedly on a hunger strike.Not looking good for this so called mother .No wonder she had a panic attack while her messages where being read.Shameful.
The fact that she has the nerve to even go to trial is sickening. Justice would be giving her the same treatment back.
How could her lawyer claim with a straight face this educated, smart woman going to school for another degree had no clue she was abusing her own child.
Attorneys represent criminals. It's all about cash flow.
Having a defense is part of the way the criminal justice system works. It will reduce risk an appeal will be successful.
The crazy part is- she has a LAW degree. She passed the bar exam!! She knows EXACTLY what is legal and not legal, and SURELY she knows that what she was doing is highly illegal and extremely wrong.
@@aleiprofaci5331 Yes, 100% she knew. She knew she didn't have legal custody of the child and she didn't take him to see doctors or to go to school so her abuse would not be revealed. She's evil.
Well you dont suffer panic when the texts aren't incriminating
Just being in court accused of something, guilty or completely innocent, is an extremely stressful experience. the worst part is judgement, waiting for that verdict to be read.
I was gutted and in disbelief hearing about this case a couple of days ago. Now watching the trial, I'm horrified. That woman is twisted beyond belief and if her attorney thinks people are going to buy her, "I don't remember any of this" B.S. she is in complete denial, and she shows ZERO remorse as well. I truly hope she gets everything she deserves coming to her. That poor boy and what he suffered, omg. This story is traumatizing!🤬
It's appalling
Horrific
She only feels sorry for herself
Horrific
They knew they wouldn't buy it...these public defenders have a vile case and are tasked with being the mouthpiece for this deplorable...I certainly don't envy them.
She is having a panic attack because everyone is getting to hear how evil she in her own words. She involved her other son who has mental limitations to aid in her abuse of her younger son. Just evil.
Since starting Xanax in 1998, NO panic attacks. It is a miracle drug.
@@barneyronnie it's all in your head. You don't need meds.
@@barneyronnieToo bad most are strict about giving it now 😢
Lovely how everyone cares more about the perpetrators than the victim . Let her sit there and have a panic attack. It's nothing compared to the cruelty that poor child endured at her hands.
The judge is trying to keep her from filing against him BUT it won’t be tolerated forever. She has to face what she did and so be it!!
They did that to avoid a "mistrial". They all know it's BS.
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They're trying to prevent her from successfully appealing. They *have* to take her mindset into account. If not, her and her lawyer will appeal and say "they made me sit through a panic attack, and in doing so they violated my right to effectively assist in my own defense."
Literally no one "cares more" about her versus the victim. Set your emotions aside and actually think.
@@denisehagwood4542how does a panic attack of violate your rights? Answer it doesn't take a law class
Although small. This is one of the most riveting trials I have seen on TV. I’m absolutely glued to it. This woman is a monster.
She's a narcissist. Plenty of mothers out there is the world with this same disorder and they beat, abuse, berate their own kids. The worst of them starve their children physically, but all of them starve their children emotionally. They don't like to leave evidence of their abuse that can be photographed, which is why the emotional abuse is the first choice.
@@le_th_ This is 100% correct. My mum is a narcissist and she never physically abused us but oh man is her emotional abuse on another level. The sick thing is that I thought it was normal until I started therapy for some issues I had. I'm now very low contact with her and see right through her bs But its so hard to see them for what they are growing up like that
she told her son no when asked about calling 911, because she knew exactly what she did the entire time. she enjoyed torturing that poor child
@@ladyfang9633same, my mother is a covert narcissist and it wasn't until my 40's that I saw her for who she was
@@reneegardner2286 My mum is a covert one too.
Screw giving her a break. Did she give her poor abused son a break?! She should shake and feel every bit of uncomfortableness for what she’s done.
Her “panic attack” was a distraction so they would stop reading her text out loud. She knew what she was doing
Rest easy now young man, Timothy. Sorry they fail you. 🫂⚖️
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You can feel the absolute hate she had for this child. She is a scary, bitter evil.
No photos of timothy taken while he was alive?? What kind of people are they? It's like he was treated as someone less than human. This jury better find her guilty of the highest charge.
It must be really awkward having to feign any kind of sympathy for such a horrible person. Especially a horrible person who is also feigning a panic attack.
They should give her the choice between time in prison, or time being put through what she put that boy through, just to force her to genuinely acknowledge how monstrous she is.
With a loaf of bread, a bottle of hot sauce, handcuffs and a camera rolling. She'd choose prison.
@@melaniehassler2405 don't forget the ice baths! Pure evil!!
This is almost too hard to hear - good luck to this jury. Thank you for doing your civic duty and take care of yourself.
I feel so sorry for the jurors in most cases I listen to - these poor souls are going to need counselling for life 😢
This pulls out a sadness in me that i didn’t know existed.
A panic attack???! Or that she was hearing the reality of what a disgusting human she actually was 🤷🏻♀️
She's just upset the world is hearing what a disgusting woman she is.
Her panic attack was due to being exposed to the public as the psychopath she is. Shanda is a control freak, and being exposed means she is not in control of the trial. So she acts out - one might even say, was being deceitful and sneaky? - in an attempt to control the trial. Vile.
This woman brings out an anger in me I didn't know I had.😡🤬🤬 She's not human she's a demonic beast.
She knows how the courts work; that's why she's pretending to have a panic attack. Just as the texts are being orally read of her truth.
Her SON never got a "break". This woman makes me SICK. I wonder how many panic attacks her SON had?????!!!!!!!!!!!!
No he didn’t get any breaks
Sucks to have your evils borne to light doesn't it?
Exactly.
The panic attack seems staged! Maybe she thought it would get her out of the situation!
It is staged.
@river8760 yes, of course she's putting it on
As someone who has managed an anxiety disorders clinic that is definitely NOT a panic attack. She is just crying for herself. There is no extreme hyperventilation going on.
Do you always hyperventilate with a panic attack? I’m honestly asking. I don’t know much about them.
@@shoosh222 Yes, that is usually actually what brings on the physical symptoms where people feel they are going to have a heart attack Most people will start breathing faster than usual to a point where they feel they can't breathe. In treatment, in CBT treatment, you need to first taper off the benzos - you are taught that the feeling of panic will rise to its peak and then fall again. The thing is also to take control of breathing - so if you are rapidly breathing you need to learn how to bring it down. Close your eyes or drop them and focus on breathing counting in your head a slow 1,2,3 while breathing in and the same on breathing out. It takes a little practice but the key thing is it is the over breathing that starts making you feel what you feel in a panic attack. Does that help?
She had a history with DCF, why didn’t they terminate her rights ??? This is disgusting. I have 2 special needs sons and I would never ever hurt them. That poor young man.
In another video from court her lawyer mentioned -more or less- thar Evil Woman had custody when Tim was younger....and after divorce from 1st husband, Evil Woman did NOT have custody. Not until her ex illegally/not through the proper system sent Tim back to her. I really wish it was asked why she was not allowed custody after the divorce. That is usually a telling issue. EVIL.
Wouldn't have mattered bc her X gave him to her.
This could be the reason she did not seek custody, nor apply for disability benefits or take him to a doctor for prescriptions. She never loved him or did anything to nourish his development and growth. There was no enrollment in school. I contend that any prying eyes on her son would have saved him and prevented his death. Her efforts of withholding food led to his being weak, skin and bones appearance, and desperate attempts to get food. The refrigerator was locked, but he somehow got and ate frozen, uncooked food. She may not have locked the freezer. If that food was all I had, like my sister after a power outage lasting days, I would’ve eaten frozen food. If I am not allowed warm baths, I might turn off the water heater. I might rise before my brother and look for food. Thus she used restraints, zip ties, motion detectors ( which are useless unless they are alarmed.) She certainly takes advantage of precise legalese-type definitions. He was thin because HE refused food. Maybe it’s because she special-ordered hot sauce from Jamaica? That’s because he liked hot sauce ( she tried it!) Nooo, SHE has a weak stomach. On bread? When she has brownies? She bears a strong resemblance to a nurse in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”
The entire purpose of DCS is “family reunification”-and it often flies in the face of what is actually best for the abused and/or neglected children. This is NOT the fault of DCS workers. It **is** the fault of the broken system designed to protect parents and caregivers. Children have absolutely NO RIGHTS in this country. I know because I am a foster parent. The nightmares that children are forced to endure and endure and endure again because the system ***requires*** that family reunification is valued over the safety of the children is appalling and it is common. Kids who have been in DCS custody multiple times before they’re even 3 years old but continually returned to their abusers is not uncommon. If this maniac had not actually murdered her child and DCS took him into custody, it is likely she would eventually have gotten him back in her care, because the system is designed to protect her rights as a parent and not the child. The child has no rights. None. Google it.
@@vhswan3833 That's horrific. We are failing the vulnerable children in every single way - from death in the womb to abuse. Thank you for the work that you do to help them.
She’ll be truly distressed when she’s serving life.
what amazes me is the mother blaming the son Paul like she holds no blame. Just shows what she is capable of by using her son then blaming him.
The stupid pigtails were to make her look vulnerable and 'young'.
He’s as guilty as she-he was a full adult, had a job and a phone.
This case is a hard one to listen to. I say all people aren’t meant to be parents. This person is one of those people.
Those text messages are horrific. Absolutely horrific. To hear what happened through the words of the monsters (re-enacted by police officers) who tortured a child to death is heartbreaking. It makes me sick to my stomach.
How ? Just how a person can be so evil and selfish to treat their special needs child like that ??? My daughter is 10 and she is physically disabled as well as non verbal, she so small that still fits in a crib... it just takes one sound for all of us as a family to run to her side.... I have been dealing with depression for years and have my bad days but even in those bad days it just takes one smile from her to lighten me up and just appreciate the gift that God has given me...I'm not willing to change anything even if i go back....
Its sad to see how a mother can become so stone hearted to creat so much pain for not only one but all of her children to some degree and make life miserable for everyone....sad just sad.😥
The only reason she had this "panic attack" is because she was embarrassed that the text messages were read in public and they revealed what a monster she truly is, something that she was hiding, pretending to be a normal, caring mother
They’re right, this case truely is hard to listen to. It’s heartbreaking the way she treated this poor kid and the suffering he went through 😭
The way she treated her older son was equally cruel and inhumane. He’ll have emotional and psychological issues for the rest of his life.
She reviewed the evidence beforehand, along with her defense team. The videos, photos & texts. And she didn't break down then, according to the prosecutor. She is a demon being forced into the light & that's where she falls apart. Having the world see who she is & what she's done. "The light shines in the darkness & the darkness cannot overcome it."
facts. that "fake" throwing up at the picture. I'm glad the prosecutor pointed that out.
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I can't help but wonder how long she intended on torturing this poor boy for. Was the plan to be however long it took him to die, or was she simply enjoying every moment of it and hoping she could draw it out for as long as possible? I just can't wrap my head around this.
Panic Attack, my foot....
This is exactly what would have happened to Ronan Ferriter if his father, Timothy, hadn't been stopped
I agree. It was escalating. Also the same is the mom acting upset when evidence of her words were played in court.
exactly, both narcissists that enjoyed torturing their own children
Don't talk crap, this is a whole different ball game, your false empathy is misplaced.
@@pw191164 how is it different
She let her son die and we’re all supposed to feel sorry she had a panic attack? I saw my husband pass and the fear on his face makes me sick to my stomach still, that poor kid was probably so afraid and wanted his mom. But yeah, she has panic attacks.
She's a control freak. Everything she does is about control. She wanted the power over her son at whatever cost. Even in the trial her vomiting and her panic attacks all of that is just a way to control the situation. She is a sick individual and I feel any child in her care has been seriously abused mentally as well as physically and they need to get help.
Are you kidding me?!!!! She is given the right and opportunity to “take a break” after listening to a few of her OWN text messages, yet this poor child never got a break. She’s a monster, pure evil…and she should be sitting “chair style” without a chair for every second of this trial. I don’t care if she has a heart attack, just keep going on with the court procedures. Witch!
She was chewing gum in court now this - more histrionics to come I'll bet.
She's gets an exception due panic disorder...
Its so sad and heartbreaking and insane that anyone could do this to their child ?
It’s all an act , she is fine , she’s just trying to drag her time !!!
Poor child tortured till he died 😢 Rest in Peace Timothy 🙏 🕯 🕊
Just because she graduated 2nd to top of her law class, she thinks SHE is above the law & blaming her son for everything!! Watched the whole thing today & she is awful!!!
No words can truly describe the horrors this youngman went through.
That's not a panic attack. People throw that phrase around so much and have NO idea what one really is. The ones who do get them is vastly different.
I have a 23 year old autistic son and I cannot imagine anyone doing this to these special souls who are so innocent and need help!
She’s suffering a panic attack 😮 how absolutely disturbing! All just a act for the jurors
She's a real piece of work. She did those horrible things to her son but has a panic attack over hearing a bunch of text messages?
Imagine having to steel food in your own home because you’re starving hungry but you get tortured for it - a lose lose situation for that poor boy 💔
OMG, I really hope the jury can make the right decision!
Screw her panic attack over mere words she stated in comparison to the insidious treatment Timothy went through on her words.... Imagine the panic and fear her child felt. I hope she never knows a minute of peace.
This is one of the most horrible cases I've heard and I've watched a lot in my life. Hell on earth in the house, such torments we dare not imagine
Starved, tortured, isolated her child. Fed him hot sauce? I can't say how she feels. I've never tortured anything. No idea if a panic attack is normal.
wait... i guess i admit to torturing the english language at times*. and potatoes. I probably shouldn't have mashed potatoes that hard.
*often
@@macrograms I know what you mean.
She threw up when she saw her sons emaciated body, now panic attacks when reading texts. She can't even stomach what she did to her poor son. Disgusting 🙄
she should not get any food for a long long time and also sit for hours in ice water..... what a horrible woman, how is it possible ? I think of you Timothy ....
She’s faking!👹👹👹
It is trials like this where every kid who has been abused has an epiphany. Where they say it was not just me, it was not my fault, there are truly evil parents out there. In the span of just a couple of months two trials where the abuse was almost identical kids being locked into small rooms with cameras.
THIS IS NOT PARENTING.
This is not even being "human". Animals don't even treat their offspring this horrifically.
Having a panic attack is another control mechanism. My heart goes out to this poor little boy & it must be awful for the police & professionals involved.
Pure disgust! I cannot mentally imagine laying there all alone, in your mothers & older brothers home who are supposed to love & protect you, just left you lay there to die, being all alone with no-one caring to help or save you at all, physically starving for any bite of food, there is nothing worse in this world than hunger pains because they never go away!
I’m so sorry sweet Timothy, where you went you will never have any hunger pains again, you will be truly loved forever!
An 👁️ for an 👁️ eye! Karma will prevail 👊🏻💪🏻
the day he died...they both left him in a cold tub with ice from about 2pm (by brother, who left for work when mom got home at 6pm or so) until after 11pm that day.... this teen was austic, nonverbal, and unable to physically move - which I'm sure starvation and abuse worsened. Imagine being forced to stand in extremely uncomfortable poses for many, many hours each day (the "chair"), and to remain in extremely uncomfortable positions in a cold tub (wouldn't allow him to rest his head on the side or even his shoulder), and the fear imbedded that if you move - you are being watched at all times and will be further punished. The mother even tried to get her son to put hot sauce (not a common table one, super hot uncommon one) onto his genitals. It is worse than even starvation... my understanding is starvation, in addition to what you said on the inside (including leading to organ failure), also causes extreme soreness and pains in your muscles (as they "eat away") and at the bones... so that combined with torture posiitions for hours on end... imagine the physical aches and pains? Unbearable torture! No one is pointing that out because it is not obvious for some. The constant anxiety and terror, combined with internal pain and anguish, and external pain and aches...
Pretty powerful to have this played out this way in the court.
That's not a panic attack.
So glad you are providing some coverage of this trial
I really hope that in prison that she receives even a small amount of the physical, mental and emotional torture she put both of her children through, even Paul who knew that if he didn't do what mum said than he might be next. Very sad case.
Oh bless her heart. Didn’t I hear her say that her dying son shouldn’t shift in the bathtub to find a comfortable position? Yes, I definitely heard that. Now she is having a panic attack. She should be having a panic attack because she is going down.
You can tell by the things she was saying in her text messages to her son she was getting a thrill out of the things she was making her son do to him
They seemed to have a very enmesched relationship causing emotional incest, which is abuse, but Paul had opportunities to get help & chose not to, because I think he enjoyed control over his younger brother - especially because their mom was so hateful & emotionally distant. I grew up in abuse & parental enmeschment, but never treated my siblings this way - if anything I overcared & thought I had to be the Mom. Paul just reminds me of a Nazi running a concentration camp- "Well, I just followed Hitler's orders" He should have gotten a murder conviction
Not the first time I've seen a criminal do this in court. Sooner or later the judge may tire of it. Maybe not.
This is such a horrific case, so heartbreaking that Timothy wasn’t saved. No one knew he was being tortured all this time and died of torture. My heart hurts for him, I hope he rests in peace🤍
What scares me is a child at this very moment is going through the same torture.
Both of these children are victims of this evil woman ,what would she of done to the eldest if he didnt do as she said believe mothers can be very manipulative taken his food ,taken his phone ,shes pure evil 😡
Yes! He should not be facing charges, they should add more to Shandra so she can be charged for the abuse of this second son.
Listen to her - She has PTSD - She pulled every victim card known to mankind. For her son - it was all made up. He was just faking his symptoms -
She didn't help herself one bit on the stand. Thank you
Mr.Prosecutor. Thank you Jury. Thank you Your Honor. Thank you Detectives.
I’d probably have a panic attack too if I was on trial for murder and the cops had literal text message proof of me doing it. What a joke. This woman is despicable and I hope the jury locks her away for as long as they possibly can.
This reminds me of the book “A Child Called ‘It’” by Dave Pelzer. I read it when I was in middle school. I could never understand why a mother would do any of these things.
I suffer from panic/anxiety attacks regularly. I don't ever look that calm and breathe that easily when mine are happening and I didn't kill anyone.
I deal with panic disorder and I call her a fraud
@@carolannpacificadam1944 I know, right? My limbic system is typically on fire when i'm in the middle of an attack. She's not showing any signs of it. It looks like she's just trying to stall.
Plus her medication for them is quick and easy to take and get on with it
@@Schiffon What is the medication for a fake panic attack? lol
When I have a panic attack I can't sit still and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin.
Evil is very real. God bless this poor babies precious soul. Fly with the angels sweet boy. 🙏🏼❤️
What a terrible case, can a mom be so evil??
She was all big, strong and scary when she was torturing her son to death but now she’s a delicate little flower in court when hearing what she did? No sympathy for this devil.
Wonder if she thought about the panic attacks that her emaciated, abused and starving son felt on a daily basis. What a horrible, horrible person.
Make no mistake y'all she's crying because the whole world knows what a terrible person she is! not for what she's done or for forgiveness
Oh ok a ton of people would have been mistaken. Thank you so much
@@iamagainstyourpillows5162some people can't tell the difference!
Wow, a complete monster. And to do this to the other child. She’s so obsessed with him taking food. She has multiple issues. She sounds like she wanted to be a prison guard, not a mom. I hope she suffers the consequences. Maybe don’t feed her in prison and see how he suffered hunger for a while.
i think its so important to remember that Timothy did not go quiet into that good night. He STRUGGLED against his abusers. He snuck food when they starved him, he found ways of outsmarting the motion detectors they put on his door and on his body. He was smart. He was determined to live.
I cannot listen to this case! it breaks my heart into pieces\ a parent doing this to their own child. rip!🥀
The Audacity to defend them selves???I have the GOOD LUCK of caring for 2 most beautiful and handsome special needs children and I can never understand how any sane human being can be so mean and cruel.
Im confused as to why a kid getting food from his own house is classed as 'stealing food'