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The Best Apple MacBook Pro You Shouldn’t Buy
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2019
- The new 2019 MacBook Pro has fixed a lot of issues; but not enough.
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Apple's redesigned MacBook Pro released in 2016 ditched all of the ports in favor of USB-C and Thunderbolt 3. The decision bothered many as did the Touch Bar-an accessory deemed too expensive and insubstantial to warrant a price hike-but the keyboard has remained the worst single problem with Apple's worst laptop lineup in decades. Reliability of the butterfly switch has been dismal at best and has soured the reputation of a once great laptop lineup. Can the new 8-core i9 CPU save MacBook Pro? No. But it fixes a lot of issues the prior models have had. That said... you should just wait for the new rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro with MicroLED display.
I think they called the keyboard butterfly bechause it's as fragile as a butterfly
Marco H. You mean more fragile than a butterfly 🦋
It's because of the shape of the switches I guess
It's because when you break one on this side of the world, a chinese sweatshop worker on the other side of the globe dies inside because they have to make another keyboard for someone
Because when you touch a butterfly's wing, it dies because of your skin oil.... Just like how the keyboard self-destructs when you touch it.
Or maybe they re ephemeral / short lived like a butterfly
no matter how many cores it has still using the same cooling design ....awesome...lol
It's OK though, Macbook Pros have never been called "laptops" by Apple because they would in fact sear your legs if used in that position. An egg needs to reach only about 158F to become firm, so the underside of a typical MacBook Pro can be used to make a perfect omelet whilst you use it to scroll through Kijiji in search of a more human-friendly device. If you were to wear, say, polyester fabric and mistake the mBP for a "laptop" prepare to have the upper portion of each leg surgically removed as modern medicine attempts to separate the two melded hydro carbons. There's an app called Macs Fan Control that I highly recommend; just set it to the High setting (permanently). You can also carry a large heat sink in your "laptop" bag to help dissipate the heat. The wing of an antique aircraft works well if you have access to a aerospace graveyard. Water cooling is also a fine idea, though this may generate considerable steam (beware if you use glasses).
@@gorkyd7912 LMFAO dude!!
Quit griping! Just put it on a box full of dry ice & use a bluetooth keyboard whenever you use it. Problems solved!!
You’re right about the same cooling design but they upgraded the fans from 5200+RPM > 6000RPM so it cools a tiny bit better but considerably louder I think.
@@rocketraccoon1976 just to use the laptop. 🤦🏾♂️
Thanks for also saying the temperature is Celcius!
Random. Celsius is pretty much the standard for computer thermal results. You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who uses Fahrenheit
@@aanesijr pleasant all the same.
@@aanesijr You would be very hard pressed to find any country in the world who uses Fahrenheit, too
🙄
Ohh the USA how archaic and behind u are when it comes to your measuring systems........
well made review, took everything you learned from the previous segments and included in 1 great video. Underrated youtuber.
Thanks so much, man!
Yeah awesome video. You know it is good video when 11 minutes pass like nothing.
Truth!
butterfly keyboard: proof that the butterfly effect works. Tiny things CAN have huge consequences!!!!
yeah it do be like that
I am so freaking impressed. You did all the tests I care about. ALL OF THEM. I expected a rant where I would think to myself "try the cooler, try lm, try adjusting the fancurve.. but no! You did it all. Why the title? This was awesome
Are you Doug DeMuro's brother? Or techy double?
lolol
Daddy Doug is my papa.
@@snazzy "I love it when you call me big poppa" haha snazzy snazzy snazzy can't you see, the way you talk about macs just hipnotizes me XD
@@snazzy I would actually believe that, if it weren't for the different last names. You look so much like him, and share similar humor! I mean that as a complement of course!
Have a fab day!!
I'd really love to see someone review tech the way Doug reviews cars. Especially old tech. Imagine Doug reviewing one of those old thinkpads (701C) with the transforming keyboard. "And now, let's talk about its quirks and features. On most laptops the keyboard is limited by the size of the case, but no, that wasn't good enough for IBM. They decided to make their keyboard present itself as you open the case."
I love how this guy tinkers with Apple stuff. They must hate him lol
All that free advertising drives them nuts. Only Linus Tech TIps does more.
Swift Boiz I love watching Louis’s videos, even as an Apple fan. He generally seems to be a pretty chill guy.
Swift Boiz, swift.
I know it doesn’t make sense but, I just wrote it. Also, I agree with your reply (/opinion)!!
If Apple hate this guy, then they will despise Louis Rossman, he takes apart MacBooks and never recommends them, gives good breakdown explanations. See his channel.
Super frustrating. Love your videos though. They get better every upload
Thanks!!
Apple had one of the best laptop keyboards on the market with the chiclet keyboard, I never will understand why they ditched it
Think different!
They wanted a smaller profile which sacrificed all the stuff we loved and wanted. Keyboard, ports, removable power chord. I'd rather a chunkier MacBook with better keyoand ports.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen in my life. Thank you. You are charming and funny as well.
Thanks so much!
I had the 2018 MBP 15" i9 and had crazy throttling issues. Tried TG Kryonaut, not much difference, tried TG Conductonaut, little better but still into high 90s. That laptop cost me £3500. Sold it and bought a Gigabyte Aero 15x that has a stunning 4k Pantone Calibrated screen for £1850, which has an i7 8750h, 16GB Ram, 500gb SSD, RGB keyboard etc. Upgraded the ram to 32GB, added another 1tb SSD as it has a spare slot and it never goes above 85 degrees and that's at 3.7ghz, full pelt. So I have a 15" 4k i7 8750h, 32gb ram, 1.5tb SSD and 95wh battery (9hrs browsing, 4ish heavy work) for a grand total of £2090. Virtually identical weight, better real usage battery life, way better screen, upgradeable ram, storage, battery etc. Apple has lost its way and I will never buy an overpriced arrogance project from them again. They think that they know best. They solder the ram on as they know that if you need 3wgb ram you have no choice but to buy it from them. I upgraded my ram for a grand total of £81. The 1tb Samsung 970 Evo was £160 on offer. That's a hell of a lot less than Apple. Want a decent modern laptop without being a slave to Apple's greed. Buy a Windows Laptop such as mine.
1:30 Doug DeMuro in recommended. Another man of class, I see.
Eeehh..
Well, that is an improvement. And don't call me Shirley.
It is, Shirley!
@@snazzy Savage😂😂😂
@steve crawford 🤨🤨
So the thing that they need to improve from now on is the chasis and the price!
3:40 You know what they say, the 4th redesign is the charm *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH*
I bought a 2018 model in March. 2.7 GHZ I7, 16GB of RAM, 512 SSD. I really like it, but I do fear the keyboards inevitable demise lol
Lincoln Riddle I wish you would have returned it, and bought a used 2015 instead off Craigslist
Same here, I fear the soldered in SSD's demise more than the keyboard. Will this computer suddenly become a very expensive doorstop after a few years.
I would trade in a M.2 connector for a few mm of thickness any day of the week on these machines.
RogueTravel I have a 2015 MacBook Pro for my job. It struggles to run the latest versions of Premiere and After Effects and it’s a high end model haha now that could be isolated to just this one computer, but I didn’t want to take any chances
RogueTravel no no no come on ... RIP 2015 MacBook Pro
@@billB101 You don't have to worry about the SSD for a long, long time.
The "improvements" to the keyboard are to make the inevitable keyboard repairs cheaper for Apple.
...Repairs? No no, you mean replacement that customer will be buying lol
I think they also made it possible to change out the individual keys instead of the entire keyboard. I don't know if its actually the case, but heard some talk about it
Apple hasn’t been “upgrading” old keyboards brought in for warranty repair with the redesigned switches if that’s what you’re wondering. They’re fixing your old shit and hoping that you’ll take care of it. When that keyboard breaks again after the 4 year program is over you are left without lube and in the assumed position to buy the new shit and shut up.
@@mikaels-p6765 that is very unlikely. The whole keyboard is one sealed unit that is actually RIVETED into the topcover which warrants either the complete replacement of the top cover or you need to rip it out, thread the wholes and screw in a replacement. I can guarantee you that this will be far more expensive due to labor so they will "simply" switch the topcover.
This
Snazzy Labs I am a fresh one week Macbook Pro 13 2018 user, after 30 years of powerusing PCs. And thus far this is the best YT channel dedicated to these topics. I think Touch bar, gestures, entire ecosystem...all great features and I am never ever going back to PCs! :)))
I prefer my desktop most of the time, but I feel that my MacBook Pro is an amazing mobile device. I even like the keyboard, just wish it wasn't so fragile. I also really dig the Touch Bar, I prefer it to mouse seeking. And the touchpad is the best I've ever used, hands down.
This review was highly informative and explained really well. Keep up the good job!
Hahaha that “cool down period” comment with the firefight clip was on point 🤣👨🏻🚒
Well done and great objective tests.
😊😊
I love my Macbook Pro 2017. I don't have keyboard problems, I love the touchbar, I love the screen, I love the trackpad. Performance is fine, I however do not have a high spec model.
Emma Nieuwenhuis As long as you like it, that’s all that matters. It’s fitting your needs right?
I am using 2012 15 inch non retina macbook pro still growing strong with all ports and long travel keyboards 😃
Me too. I have 2012 15 inch MBP with 2.6ghz. I made an upgrade.. With 16 GB of ram and put an ssd Samsung Evo with 250 gb.
With all of that.. It's enough specs for me as a musician.. And to travel. I can say that 2012 is the best macbook ever made for that!
I have 2016 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is still going strong but I''m not a daily user of my laptop.
I am a daily user and no problems at all
Tashinga Dekune same, works fine with me and I work daily with it and write A LOT.
Maybe if we clean it daily and use it daily
It will work good
@@talkmun655 or just use a rubber keyboard cover.... That's thin enough to type, and keeps away the dust
@@talkmun655 honestly I'm staying at my 2012 MacBook Pro with Intel i7
The ten core imac pro is still the best computer in apple's current lineup. My only mistake was not buying the 10 core and getting the 8 core, but it's still been a wonderful machine. IMHO.
1:34 Thank god you gestured what a rock is
Now try and test something that stresses both the CPU and GPU. I bet that MacBook will dive deep into Throttleland territory.
It's already 3°c off t junction, this thing will just turn off at that point
Davinci Resolve will stress the CPU and GPU, be interesting to see how that runs in the standard config with a few FX and some grading thrown in.
I'm wondering if it has something to do with the thermal readings. I'd be skeptical to trust those readings. Why?
When the 2018 macbook pro started getting headlines about its thermal performance, apple immediately told intel to remove it's third party CPU temperature measuring application from their site.
I'm skeptical, and I'm not sure why? The computer needs to know when to start and stop its fans so those measurements need to be accurate af. But still there is a shred of doubt in my mind ...
@@rehmanarshad1848 So you think that the company that makes those processors doesnt know how to design a software that reads internal thermal sensors
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@@darthybai no I think they are deliberately lying on the sensor readings on the front end, the back end has the real values and that's whats ensuring that the fan control works properly. I don't like being overly suspicious, but c'mon it's an 8 core intel core i9 in the same chasis, and the freezer test came out inconclusive. He is using the first party monitoring tool, I'd like to see him using any 3rd party tool. Just to be on the safe side. My spider senses are tingling. Lol 😂🤣🤣🤔
Macs Fan Control is an absolute diamond as far as I'm concerned, brilliant piece of kit.
I dont get it. 1mm extra in hight would double the heatsink size, maybe fix the keyboard, and leave place for more outputs like LAN and displayports.
I would choice a normal sized workstation Lenovo, Dell or HP labtop any day and for half the price.
Why fix junk when people keep buying your junk.
you're absolutely right, but they tend to stick with a design for years to recover their production/r&d costs (engineering etc.). I think they already realised they messed up (hence the "generous" repair programme) but they'll stick to this horrible design for some more nevertheless, because it is "cost-effective" to do so. Except it damages their reputation big time, but this is something you don't compute.
I had a 2016 macbook pro 13 inch and it broke 3 times, but at the third repair I claim for refund under consumer law and they are now replacing my computer, so we shouldn't only talk about bad things but we should share good things too, and after sales service is awesome. Consumer law claim was from UK
The hand motions this guy makes is hilarious esp the part when hes like "if youve been living under a rock" ahahah
Super appreciate this - Know you had some video woes in the process. Was looking forward to your take, and love the depth you go to! Thank you!!
MLTA
Make Laptops Thick Again
Thicc*
"Forth redesign a charm" lol
Shoutout to you tubers like this who make widescreen videos for notch phones
Damn.. The research done for this video.. Respect!
Thinking of getting the 6-Core i7 version. Never had a Mac in my life. Switching from PC
I did that change about a year ago and Im still lucky about my decision
I have been using a 2014 macbook pro 15 inch i7 still works well only issue I've had recently is performance took a dive but turns out the reason why is because my battery needs to be replaced and apple slows performance when the battery goes bad luckily the full replacement is only $200 that includes the labor. Not a bad deal in my book as I will probably be able to use it for another 2-3 years.
Honestly get a 2015 maxxed out macbook pro 15". Amazing screen, amazing keyboard, pretty great processor, decent-ish thermals, and upgradable SSD!
My MacBook pro mid 2012 is still going strong, ram upgrade, SSD upgrade, haven't changed the battery yet but probably soon. I might consider reapplying the thermal paste to get a little more out of the old girl. But definitely my last mac, I've been eyeing that Lenovo x1 for a couple of years now.
you should also check out the XPS series from Dell too
@@kristof910k I had a couple dells before my Mac, never disappointed.
The keyboards were so much better then. I upgraded from a 2013 to a 2018 one 5+ months ago and though I'm more used to the keyboard it still feels abysmal. 0.55mm key travel is just ludicrous (it's gone plaid, in the worst way). For reference even the surface pro type cover is 1.3mm. I wish they'd just go back to the previous keyboard, it was pretty good.
Just had to have my keyboard fixed a couple weeks ago. I don't know if it's this way for all Mac stores, but they were able to make the repair in the store and I had it back the next day. The guy told me that they have had to repair so many that the corporate offices decided to train people up to make the repair in-store.
I continue to have a quiet hope that the MacBook pros will be like pre-retina versions... I think those days are over.
Best 2019 macbook pro review on youtube
I just want to say, your narration is top notch. I simply listened to this video over headphones while doing chores, and was completely able to follow along and essentially "see" the action in my head. Been a long time viewer, and love your content.
moral of the story?
*always put your macbook pro inside a freezer when exporting videos*
dont forget to *MAXIMIZE FAN SPEED*
Respect for buying the laptop for the video
Got your point but, do most of them really have to do that? it's just not equating
Man, this is a good review/buying advice. You did some serious testing before posting a video...thank you.
First video I've ever watched from this channel and I have to say, the quality is phenomenal. Simple, well prepared, in-depth, excellent audio and great b-roll. Overall a deceptively simple video with great content flow and top notch production behind the scenes. Brilliant, I'm subbed!
Idk why people are saying 'just get it fixed'. No... If I paid extra for the quality it should not fail. Also I need my laptop almost everyday.
Quality isn't stranger to taking care of.
The keyboard is just unacceptable. Period.
I got my MB pro since spring 16 and my keys work perfect.. But since almost everyone owning a newer one has problems with the keys... I guess im the exception
with 2016 pro, i swapped my keyboard twice.
These things are killer inconsistent. Some people are reporting as low as 2.4ghz sustained, while others report all the way up to 3.0ghz. That seems like more of a variance than just room temp
I get 2.8-2.9 when doing 100% CPU utilization benching after 20-30 min. It’s only really Prime95 SmallFFT and video exporting that bring it all the way down to 2.5GHz.
5:50 The thing I'll always love about Snazzy Labs is that these kinds of shots are used sparingly, and to such great effect. Almost spit my dinner onto my 2017 MBP keyboard. Too close for comfort.
Hahaha. Cheers! Thanks so much for your support.
I don't know if it's even possible but it would be cool to see if you could fit a Lenovo Thinkpad keyboard into a MacBook Pro.
When running inside a freezer, Apple keeps the fan quiet instead of getting the clock speed higher is exactly like Ted Beneke spent the $617k to buy a Mercedes Benz instead of paying his taxes in Breaking Bad.
Siva R that's crazy no?
@@transhowspuertorico5075 I know some people that think this type of fan behavior is good.
Keyboards, processors and thermal throttling aren’t the only issues. One can justifiably argue that storage availability is more of a hindrance than processor speed. In most cases if your processor is slow it takes a little bit longer to complete a task. But when your SSD drive is full no amount of waiting is going to rectify the problem. The previous limit of 1TB was absurdly insufficient and a principal reason why I still use a MBP with a replaceable SATA drive (2 TB). The larger storage options of the 2019 models are, at least for me, an indication that I can contemplate going shopping.
You know what, I've decided you are one of the best Tech reviewers on the Tube. Really! I love how you are not just playing follow the leader as most other reviewers often do...Geekbench this, Cinebench that. Great that you add in some value added insight. Plus you are generally entertaining to boot!
BTW: As some other Tech sites are starting to do, if you really want to compare 'Apple with Apples' on the CPU front...comprehensively , then I would suggest including the Blender Render Benchmark. A real world test performance test (beyond transcoding). Keep em coming!
I will not buy macbook pro until they make it same design as macbook pro 2012 with complete io and good keyboard but with modern cpu gpu and ram
And I'm here still with my late 2011 MacBook Air.
Missing Steve times
I just recently bought a new “2017” MacBook Air 13 fully optioned out because I know Tim Cook is going to drag this on into the next generation to try and make the 2020 mbp even thinner. Because “courage” and dumb bullshit. I want my ports and I want a nice keyboard with macOS. If this is the last MacBook I ever buy then I’ll be happy keeping it around for 30 years to just check email and balance a spreadsheet.
Mark M hi. Excuse my ignorance but what do u mean “optioned out”? Out of everything I’ve been reading the last few days as I decide which Mac I’m going to buy (or not) your comment is the most interesting since this may be the way I go.
@@Miamis4me305 highest spec
Raziah Aysam thank you. Google is wonderful lol I found it! I also just bought it. This is exactly what I was looking for.
_runs at 98 fucking degrees_
Apple: "this is fine"
So funny to find this review after I purchased my first ever MacBook Pro. All my friends who are in the sound/video/media world have always talked up MAC and I always fought it with the PC world. That being said I have a 2018 MacBook Pro and have not had any issues since I bought it 9 months ago. I use it to edit video with Adobe creative suite, Record and mix with Logic Pro and use it live with Mainstage. Being a PC guy for 23 years they are not anymore perfect, so I guess will see how it goes.
Patrick Rushton i’ve been looking also for 2018 macbook pro. Can I ask what you bought? i5 or i7? Is it hot in your country? Thank you!
Mr Kobe Meowster I purchased the i7 2.2ghz 15” screen MacBook Pro. Yes it’s in the 80’s here where I live.
Patrick Rushton Patrick Rushton thank you! I was thinking of buying this for programming, by your statement you bought it 9 months ago. Did you buy it at a mac store? Thanks for the reply! 😁
Mr Kobe Meowster I bought it through Best Buy.
when he is waiting for a Mac Pro and it literally comes out in like a few weeks.
Sent on
The 2019 MacBook Pro 13 | Its Actually Pretty Good
Apple: Why redesign the chassis, the keyboard, and the thermal solutions when people are just gonna buy the MBPs anyway?
I’m glad that apple prioritized fan speed/noise... There is nothing worse than sitting in a meeting with your laptop about to take flight with nothing but your mail client and a single tab in your browser open. If you want something that will quietly render 4K videos, get a desktop, it doesn’t even need to be a mac :)
I still use an MBA from 2014. None of those issues for me. It still works pretty well. Runs what I need it to run. Prolly won’t do a proper upgrade in a while.
>A small percentage -Apple
>A majority of machines -Reality
I wouldn't say a majority, most have no problems with the keyboard.
I finally decided to get the i7 processor 15 inch 2019 today, am tried of waiting each year lol 😆
Does the i7 15 inch 2019 throttle as well? I can't find any reviews on the i7 model.
Souvik Saha it works fine, sad part is 16 inch mac book pro came out after 6 days, bigger storage the only difference, tried to take it back, wish I bought it from Apple store the would have replaced for me easily lmao
@@faultylog3713 Man i feel ya. I prebooked the 15 inch macbook from a non-apple store and payed a hefty advance, they won't give the 16 inch , have to stick with the 15 inch now.
I own a 2017 MacBook Pro 13” with touchbar (512gb intel core i5 with 8gb ram), and oh yeah. The keyboard is kinda annoying sometimes.
I rarely get problems with the keys getting stuck and having a difficult time to press down. But Its not the end of the world. You can fix this in 3 ways.
Number 1: Rock the key a little back and forwards if the keycap is just stuck.
Number 2: Lift your MacBook up in the air at an angle, and blow into the keycap. Either with compressed air, or just with your mouth.
Number 3: This can fix 2 problems. Lift your keycap up from the top with a thin, and soft, but not too flimsy piece of plastic until you hear 2 clicks. Then slide the bottom of the keycap up to remove it. Clean it, or replace it if your keycap is broken. When finished. Slide the bottom of the keycaps (There’s very small hooks in the bottom cornors of the keycap) too hook the locking mechanish, and press the top part down gently to lock the keycap in place.
However, it’s a different story with the up and down keycaps. I don’t know how to remove them.
Do it gently btw. I broke one of my keycaps trying to clean it. Luckily it’s only 5-10$ (35-65kr. Danish) to get a replacement.
Clearer than your average tech video. Well done.
I’mm tttypin ths on 2018 mckboo pr
Vadim Martynyuk 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really? At $4000 with all that hardware, you can't get RAM faster than 2400mhz??!!?!?!
Amen! Imagining the heat issues with this design though- and faster RAM 😡🤯. I love the neat & quiet Apple designs, but there has to be better a cooling solution.
I miss my 2012 MacBook Pro. It was thicker, but it ran cooler than any of the ones since I switched to retina MBPs. I don't want an enormously thick laptop, but I want something that can effectively and efficiently remove heat and not make my keyboard (and surrounding area) almost too hot to touch...
This is the "kind" of review/video that we want to see not just a typical video that only read the description of the item. Great Job!
I only disagree with you on the performance > noise. Of course having the option is always better, but we never expect that from apple. But if they prioritized performance, people would be complaining about the noise that the computer makes all the time, not only when doing intense workloads. And as most of day to day work is not benchmarking, people wouldn't notice a 10-20% increase in performance, but would notice the laptop taking off
This isn't a matter of prioritizing performance over noise, it's a matter of giving the hardware adequate cooling. Normal laptops don't sit at 90+ degrees while doing work. Apple's do, because that's how they design them. It drastically reduces the life of the hardware. And I'm pretty sure that's why Apple chooses to do it this way.
I agree that this is first a design problem with the chassis. But when he put it in the freezer they had the option to boost for longer, but they decided would be better to slow the fans down. So yes, they prioritize sound over heat, but they don't keep the PC as hot as possible always.
@@danielkleins No, you're missing the point. The whole reason why there wasn't any performance improvement when stuck IN A FREAKING FREEZER is because Apple programs the fan profiles so extremely low that they don't turn on until the CPU is baking. He even said that the whole difference was that the fans were barely spinning as opposed to making a ton of noise.
It's not that they're trying to keep the computer hot, nobody would ever say that because that's nonsense. It's that they're allowing it to get extremely hot earlier than normal and therefore for longer periods of time thanks to an extremely conservative fan profile. This design allows the heat to ramp up to dangerous levels extremely quickly, meaning any work done is going to keep the computer at that temperature until you stop using it.
Ultimately, it should never get as high as it does, regardless of the fan speed (and with an adequate heat sink, you can have both good cooling AND low fan noise), but Apple prefers to use the bare minimum when it comes to heat sinks, so by design they require more fan speed (and therefore noise) to maintain cooling. If noise really was the primary concern they never would have used this kind of heat sink on the chips they decided to use. So again, like I said, it has nothing to do with prioritizing performance over noise, because the entire design is a terrible compromise. They could have just as easily used lower TDP chips instead.
Will you make a video about Hackintosh on laptop and change the wifi card for Bluetooth and Wifi for Airdrop?
I love how he uses Apple products like any Apple fanboy but knows very well Apple's philosophy is form over function. Wasn't looking for another laptop, but still an entertaining video!
You had me at the words, “funnily” and your pronounciation of “innovative”. Subscribed.
I have some over 20 year old rubber dome Keyboards from Dell and Fujitsu and they still work as new - even after fluid spills, tons of dust and a lot of physical abuse :^)
So do the old Apple ones before they only cared about thinness. Lol
i could make a joke on how you like your keyboards like you like your women. ready for lots of fluid spills and years of physical abuse, but it wouldn't strictly be true since i don't know you, so i won't say that.
@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 i like your humor 😁
Refurbished Macbooks the way to go. Why does Apple want to make it Thinner too, is beyond me 😒
Thinner and lighter is better for portability. But I understand that thermal performance is important.
Because people keep buying it
Next MacBook Pro: "We got it to be thinner by removing all the ports. The keyboard is now a touchscreen, and the case is solvent-welded shut so Louis Rossmann can't repair it. It is expected to last about seven months, which is why we include a six-month warranty. You can purchase AppleCare for three years for the price of YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL, but this doesn't cover any of the design defects we hope you won't notice."
I don't like this.
i'm currently typing on one of the broken keyboards. my company gave me a new 2017 when my first keyboard started having problems, now they're fixing to send this 2017 back. i've a good half week on support calls for several other issues like iCloud (backing things up when i didn't want it to, then not letting me delete them while constantly nagging me about a full cloud0. my vp and i pushed for mACs because of low cost due to general reliability and now both of us are just shaking our heads. We've both been pro-mac for professional/engineering work over the past 20 years and now we can't recommend them.
great video. covered everything that matters
could you try undervolting? it greatly improves performances on i5-8250 and the like
Since there's 820 comments, I can safely say that I'm way too late to the party, and Quinn will probably ignore this comment altogether (yet, here I go). I love your videos, and you were the reason why I threw myself into the Hackintosh scene. Your Crapintosh video, although the system I used was different, showed me that I can get a decent performer with the hardware I have and say goodbye to unnecessary system hangs, 100% disk usage when updating a Windows Store app, and use Photoshop since using it on Linux through Wine is painful. The thing I'm interested in for your next project is another Hackintosh build (people seem to love em, after all), but more, well, portable! Using a Laptop from the last 8 years, can you get a decent alternative to the still somehow pricy Macbook Pros of 2011 and later. Some underdogs like the older HP Elitebook series offer the sex-appeal of Macbooks and can be found rather cheap in surplus warehouses, while some Dells can get you more performance for less. Anyways, awaiting the next one!
There one thing you got wrong - you can in fact pull up the keycaps of the butterfly keys it's pretty simple once you get the hang of it. Not that it's okay that you need to do it just to keep the keyboard working though.
Your video is really good. Thanks for condensing the-latest Apple gimmicks.
Great video! Thanks for putting the effort into this! 👍
Waiting for new design, better cooling. Currently stuck on first 15 inch Retina model. New models are more expensive but still haven’t improved in key stuff mentioned here. And it’s making it hard to justify the price. And I need new one for my work for editing my videos. iMovie also needs an upgrade. I never got used to Final cut pro...
I am very impressed with the quality and detail of this review. Subscribed.
2016 : Don't buy Macbook
2017 : Don't buy Macbook
2018 : Don't buy Macbook
2019 : Don't buy Macbook
"18 seconds ago'
unlike your comment you heathen!
2019 rules
2019 : Buy Macbook
Just a keyboard, not that hard to figure out
I mean if you have a MacBook with the butterfly keyboard your better off buying the magic keyboard and mouse and use the laptop as a desktop until apple finally gets rid of the butterfly keyboard 😂😂
Just because you run a computer chassis inside a cooler or freezer / fridge, does NOT mean it will run higher ... it's still throttled because the surface temperature of the chip and where it contacts with it's cooling solution (or lack there of) does not change, the machine still heats up, and because there is no thermal exchange happening, it will heat up.
Remember, it takes like a really really long time to die in outer space from "freezing" despite you being in near absolute zero temps ... this has to do because there is nothing to "remove your heat", in fact, in space you'll overheat to death before you freeze to death. Seems so wrong but is actually very true ^^
I kinda like how silent macbooks are. If i need to do some heavy work I use my windows desktop anyways. I can't wait for the macbook redisgn tho, hope they fix the keyboard and the cooling.
S A D since 2001 and yeah if u just tweak the fans then that brings out more performance. The problem is a lot of people take the stock fam curve and act like it’s the most powerful it would ever be.
I think a little more credit is due for the form factor, if you want an extremely heavy brick of a laptop and all that performance, use a damn desktop, mini desktops work decent too. Of course not as portable as those clunky windows laptops but yeah. The form factor of that MacBook is kinda crazy and the idea is u could pretty much take it anywhere, throw a sleeve on it and you’re good, and you are still moving around an octa core laptop.
Another thing that is overlooked is most powerful laptops are flooded with huge hunks if plastic with worse quality control than you can imagine. Practically every gaming laptop has huge flaws and defects, and they are overlooked because each one is different, where the MacBook everyone knows the keyboard is fucked because it’s just one model. And to top it off they are disgustingly thick pieces of plastic. The only thing that comes close to build quality is the Razer blades, but we all know the quality control problems are just as fucked as other manufacturers
The thing is all laptops blow and it’s fucked, no matter what angle you look at it there is some kind of corner cut or sacrifice made.
Hows that 14nm working out for you intel. :P
Too soon, mate
ah yes I love watching all these videos bashing on the 2019 apple pro after i literally just bought it 😀
How's it going? I'm considering buying one now, 15" 32gb 256gb
Laptop thermals is such a messy topic that you just don’t know if you know anything anymore the moment you start to put too much thought onto it.
So happy I got my MBP when I did. 2015 15” with the TB SSD and DGPU. I really hope Apple thickens the next design so they can ditch this horrible keyboard. Only good thing about the new ones is the speakers and screen. Trackpad is too big on the current model it’s so easy to bump when typing.
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it"
My message to Apple as a non-Apple user.
My message to Apple users...... "LOL"
"If it's broken, don't fix it"
Apple's message to their laptop and desktop diviision.
"You're very hot!"🔥🔥🚒
My message to macbook cores
Apple: "What is this word, 'fix'?"
Buuut, the laptops that obliterate the MacBook Pro with the same CPU weigh roughly as much (+0,5kg max) and doesn't look like it was designed by a 5 year old gamer?
Great video tho (as always)
Yes. See: Razer.
@@snazzy 🤔🤔🤔 fair enough (even tho they have a neon green logo)
@@snazzy aaaaand there is one other problem... (For me at least) I can't get the razer blade in Norway...... Without it costing me more than the macs that are already ... pricey 🤔
The blade actually looks like quite a good option tho, if you don't live in Norway......
8 Cores on the 2019 Macbook Pro is like putting a Corvette V8 inside of a Miata
Nice video, your tests were nice and well explained!
Thank you!