Hey all, thanks for watching as always. Just to bring my question that I asked in the video down here. Do you think brands provide enough information about their movements (tested, constructed, regulated)? Also, who does this well and who doesn't? Also, the C1 Morgan 3 Wheeler Chronometer is manual wind.
The mako 2 didn’t have too much info from orient but I love their company so I trust them, plus it’s well known that it’s +\-15 seconds a day for the watch which I can deal with easily. Also can you do a video on watch straps with designs on them such as the tropical straps from cheapest nato straps
All brands should declare their watches movements in every model. It's annoying that they don't, and I never buy a watch without knowing the movement inside.
shiran duarte Do you mean that they have an agreement with Selita/eta to give adjusted/personalized movements their own names? Or can you literally not find out with some microbrands?
@@gickojerke1262 no! They seem to think that the information about the movement is unimportant. So if one wants to know the movement, should look into forums, specialized sites or users manual. It's some brands though...
Yeah. Recently noticed that with Timex. The new Navi XL Automatic ... There's absolutely no information on the Timex website. Had to read a review of ablogtowatch to find out Timex uses a Myiota 8215.
The white dial ballade is my entry point to watch collection and oh boy would I say it's worth every cent. Silicon balance spring AND cosc certification AND great looks at a sub $1,000 is such a great value. Truly blessed by the economy of scale.
@@teekayuk I also got a Ballade ( the white dial with the bracelet) as my first "expensive" watch (not saying that my Seiko isnt awesome aswell, just a bit less pricy) and I absolutely love it to bits ! It just goes perfect with absolutely everything, doesnt matter if im wearing a suit or joggers and a big hoodie, it just matches everything. And as you already said, the value on this Thing is INSANE im still struggling really hard to find any points where they really cut costs in order to make this price happen because everything about the watch, from the build quality and the finishing to the movement and its complications, reliability and accuracy is just so far beyond the around 1000$ asking price.
@@Ocerry1 Right?! At first I thought the clous de paris bezel and center dial might make it appropriate only for going to work, but it's amazing how it also works while dressing down. As you said, even with joggers and a hoodie it doesn't feel out of place, it just makes you look sharp as hell. Tissot going with refining their classic collection in recent years is definitely the right move, since they clearly know what they're doing.
Bulova Precisionists for their one second per month accuracy and smooth sweeping seconds. The company does need direction (and a chief designer with functioning eyes) but they have such a rich history and bags of potential with that quartz movement. I think my dream job would be to turn this company around and make it into the brand it should be!
@@ThrE3-GeS I lay awake all night thinking about what you said and you're right, despite everything I should decline Citizen's generous offer. They'll no doubt be angry & disappointed I chose to do this at the very last minute after two long years of planning & discussions but I'm going to phone them right now.
The video doesn't actually note too much accuracy measurements so I thought I'd add my experience with two mechanical watches as examples to the discussion. First, my Timex Marlin 2017 reissue (hand wound) is accurate to +13 seconds /day. Second, my Hamilton Khaki Field (also hand wound) is +8 seconds/day. I'm happy with these results. I have a few quartz field and dive watches which are stupid accurate, of course.
I have the Marlin reissue as well and have found it to be very accurate. I think the higher level manufacture Chinese movements like in the marlin are quite good.
Just found your channel and truly enjoyed this video. I am very interested in affordable mechanical time pieces that actually are not Chinese movements. I have been looking at the Hamilton line as well, very good watches for under $1,000. All this information was very relevant and helpful, thank you!
Wearing my blue dial Tissot Visodate as I watch your well done video (though my Visodate is not quite as accurate as the watches in this video). By your videos you seem to feature mostly mechanical movements but in one of your videos you turned me onto the Casio Oceanus-S100. I find it to be a great looking watch with great specs and it's crazy accurate by design. I use that watch to sync up my automatics. Keep up the great work!
The best arcuate and value for money is the Bulova ultra high frequency quartz. I've seen them for as low as 130 dollars. The Bulova moon watch is on my scope at the moment ! Just 299 dollars
I have the Bulova moon watch and accuracy is tops. I recently got a Steinhart vintage and was shocked on how accurate it is, was running about 5 seconds fast over a 3 day period. I found myself checking it against the iPhone too much because it was so accurate.
My 20 year old Raymond Weil. Still going strong and keeps very great time. $1000. More importantly to me, despite chewing through tons of watches due to an occupation where i use vibrating equipment, the Weil keeps chugging along. Very impressed.
Hi Teddy, I'd love to see a video about watches with incredible lume. I love the tritium lume on my Marathon GSAR, but I'd like to learn about some more obscure options out there.
I am a Formex Essence Chronometer owner and it is an amazing watch and super value. I had the luxury of picking out my own retirement watch from my employer and was given no parameters as far as cost. I chose this watch out of all the possibilities out there. That kind of says it all! Of my 24 watches (and growing) this is my favorite!
Great review. All brands should be forthcoming about their movements, but I think that many consumers (not collectors or enthusiasts) now care more about brand recognition and appearance, rather than specifications, because of the fashion watch trend.
I can understand why the manufacturers are not very transparent when it come to the movement in their watches. Usually when I research a particular movement, it turns out to be a modified ETA or Valjoux. Also, if a watch is going to cost between $500 and $2000, is it too much to ask for there to be a color matched date wheel. As always, a lot of good info on an interesting topic.
My 15 years old Seiko Spring Drive SNR005 bought in 2005 never needs service since new and the accuracy is extremely consistent -1 second/week. Spring reserve is 72 hours.
Love your videos teddy! It's fun to have a channel for watch enthusiasts! It feels like a social club! Your giving a face to the hobby in a way! Great job!
I had a Grand Seiko Quartz made in 1977 that kept amazing time. Certainly over engineered with their 2 second hand indicator when the battery was getting low. Recently I gave it away to a good friend. Now I mostly wear a little Seiko 7018-8000 chronograph. Just a beautiful slim movement and great looking watch for not a lot of bucks. Enjoy watching your reviews. Thanks.
Big fan of Christopher Ward for the very reason they are upfront about their movements and price accordingly...I really like their SH21 inhouse movey and hope to add it to my collection soon, thanks for all your work Teddy really enjoy the content.
I thought watch enthusiasts would be discerning, so why do they like this video? How can you like a video on 'Most Accurate Mechanical Watches' when it doesn't quantify how accurate they are? Just asserting they're accurate doesn't make them so, because we've no idea what he considers accurate.. A useless video unless you're interested in power reserve times, which he did provide stats for.
I guess you dont know what a COSC certified movement is? it is a movement that is accurate to -4 to +6 seconds per day. However, most chronometer movements preform better than this.
Merich I own a watch with a COSC certified movement, so I understand what it means. His video title states it’s the about *most* accurate watches and he says that while COSC is his benchmark some watches in the video aren’t COSC certified, which presumably means they’re *more* accurate (given the title) and the problem in the video he doesn’t mention which ones these are. If this video is really about watches accurate to the COSC standard, then that’s what the title should’ve been, because the *most* accurate watches are far better than COSC, which is kinda crap by comparison. At the very least he should have said which watches are COSC certified, but it doesn’t sound like he cares for details.
Would be nice to state the actual accuracy for each model discussed (or have it below the video at least) not only for the Dolce. After all the focus of the video is accuracy...
For quartz watches, I’d like to throw out the Bulova Lunar Pilot (as well as their other Precisionist watches). +-10 seconds per year accuracy. I’ve also seen Grand Seiko quartz watches for just over $2000.
Hahaha it's hard to make them and not go broke so I feel your pain. Be smart though, watches are a marathon, not a sprint. Thanks for supporting the channel by watching!
Teddy Baldassarre i always will watch them, more strap videos plzzzzzz like I saw cheapest nato watches has some straps with designs on them and I wanted to know your thoughts on those
I own a Gruen Pecision chronometer that I've owned for almost 50 years. It's been cleaned once in that time and it still keeps amazingly good time. Still within a minute in six months, which is not bad for an old mass produced watch. At least I think it's not bad. My daily watch.
I have a Tissot that I purchased from Jomashop for $268 that has a 2824-2 movement. I wore it for 3 weeks and it was consistently running +8 sec/day regardless of the position a laid it down at night. I brought it to a friend that works on watches and asked him to slow it down by 8 sec/day. It took him about 10 minutes. Now it is running almost dead even. To me, chronometer certification is an marketing ploy to a largeextent. Also the problem with the "Powermatic" type movements is that it is virtually impossible to adjust unless you bring send it back to the factory. That Mido Heritage will be my next purchase but not the one with the Powermatic movement.
I got a Hamilton Khaki field automatic 38mm, same movement as the tissot powermatic 80h, slightly more refined. It's a bargain for the price, worth the mention.
I hate how opaque brands are about their movements, especially some Swiss manufacturers, that rebadge ETA's and call it something else. I have no problem with ETA or Sellita movements - in fact, I prefer them for cheaper watches simply because it means I can confidently have my local watchmaker service it. I know it won't cost me a small fortune to service, plus I know it will be a reliable movement. A lot of the time, it feels like "in-house" is an excuse to charge more for something equal to, or worse than an ETA movement. If I want an "in-house" movement, I can get a Casio F91-W for $10.
Just discovered your channel today very interesting.I've honestly never been a watch enthusiast despite wearing them but your content might make me get a few others in the future. My main ones I use are cheap within $30.00-$40.00 each but they are pretty nice to me.I use a Denacci for my casual days and a Beverly Hills Polo Club for more formal events.I know they're probably not as popular as the typical Seiko's,Citizens,Orients,etc..but I like to stand out from the rest.
yeah but looking at quartz movements in terms of accuracy is kind of cheating just because every 10$ trash toy-watch with a quartz movement can rival the absolute best of the best chronometers...
@@Ocerry1 you have a point . Then I would say my Hamilton khaki field automatic is + / - 2 sec a day . It has the new H 10 movement in it . It runs better then my Seiko sarbo35 .
The problem with HAQs is that they are thermally compensated. If you have a large number of watches and don't wear the HAQ one often, it defeats the point of owning one.
Amazing how much better Longines watches look with normal length lugs like the Record you featured. Not only do long lugs look bad, IMO, but they make watches wear larger thus limiting their audience. Longines make weird design decisions in general, like 5 star reviews on the dial, but they did well with this Record.
Fantastic Vlog. I like learning about the movements. I am leaning towards a quartz again for my collection because of the comfort when wearing it and the accuracy. They also seem to be very durable. as well. Thanks!
All movements CAN be optimised. Regardless of the number of position accuracies, eventually they decline & require attention. It's the nature of the mechanical beast. However, as noted, assistance with increased scientific knowledge helps (silicon springs) adjusted beat rates to increase power reserves. It all adds to the final overall performance for which I am grateful. Thanks for your content Teddy, it's always of value & Ben joy "needing out" when my curiosity is aroused.
Thank you for another great and informative video! I totally agree, some watch brands are not transparent enough about the movements in their watches. I always assume they are trying to hide something when they don't come out and say what it is very clearly.
Absolutely, brands should be more transparent about movements, especially the modified ones. I'd like to see a comparison of self-wind vs. hand-wind. Thx.
Your photography is really good man! Especially your flat lays and backgrounds to your shots, especially shone through in the Mido and Vacheron video's
I love the Christopher Ward and Ball, the latter since I happen to be a railfan. I've no idea why, but I suspect that there's a book lurking inside you that needs to be published. That occurred to me when you talked about the Ball. History and watches are two of my passions.
Some great choices here, Teddy, nice video. I can attest to the quality of Chr Ward as I have the Mk 1 Trident cosc which is a superb watch. I also have 3 Tissots, all under 500€, which are outstanding value for money with fantastic attention to detail and solid movements. I would recommend Tissot to anyone 👍 Cheers!
My F-91W has been consistently +3 seconds per *year* since 2015. I was going to trash it and get a databank when it dies, but I think I'll hold onto this one for another decade or two at least.
My most accurate automatic is still my first Seiko 5. It averages +0.5s/day when well wound! My most accurate watch is still my Certina DS Action Precidrive, which runs about +1s/year :)
Correct. For example. My new Steinhart Ocean 39 Vintage GMT (Sept. 2020) had a tag that said ETA 2893-2/ Sellita 330-1. I suppose I was to guess. The case back says “Swiss Movement”. So, got my standing magnifying glass out, bifocals on, and read through the tiny sub-glass at highest magnification and still at the very edge, I almost missed the Eterna Maker’s Mark : ETA. Very close by we’re the numbers 2893-2. Mystery solved BUT Steinhart, a German Co. is not of the Swatch Group. I know I will botch the spelling but the name for partially finished movements is ebuasche (?). I thought ETA/Swatch recently decided to sell ebausche to Swatch participants only....? So, Mr. Teddy, answer to your inquiry into the “Transparency” of the industry and leaving much to be desired........yup, you are correct Sir. I adore my Steinhart and was DELIGHTED it had the ETA movement! I am currently looking for a Valjoux 7750. I may have crossed a watch nerd geekdom overload : I research the movement I want and then, find a good high value brand to go with it. .........is there any hope.......horological addiction............look away, look away at my shame......bwwwwaaaaaaaa...........look away...a....arg..... ...........(😂🤪😝🤣😜)
I came here looking to finally get myself a time piece that is worth something. And by the end, I found myself wanting to see this out to 5k, 10k, and 50k. Not that I will EVER have such a watch, I just want to hear about the tech.
Wish I'd seen this before buying a new watch. Just got a Visodate Automatic and while I love the design, it gains about 25sec/day which is a bit disappointing. I wasn't expecting Rolex, Patek quality but still. Wish I had research a bit more before jumping into it.
I'm always impressed by Tissot. The movement and finish for the price is good on the better pieces. Nice quality butterfly bracelets. Plus huge variety. I have a few Tissots myself and love them. They have same quality as some watches that cost twice as much. But also have cheaper models, too.
My 2007 Breitling SuperOcean blue dial ref# A17360 gains 0-2 seconds a day. Pretty accurate for an automatic watch. Ed Bishop, who played Cmdr. Ed Straker, in the 1970s TV show "UFO" wore a Certina watch.
Love your channel Ted! You opened me a whole new world haha. Have a question for you. What do you think about Kronaby Connected watches with their hybrid features?
Just an addition to the Tissot PR100 line of COSC watches, it is also available in a “ladies” version at 33mm in a number of “color ways”. My wife especially likes her mother of pearl dial version😉.
Longines Record uses L888.4 movement from ETA, So, .4 is COSC? I have seen many of LONGINES are L888 movement even without Chronometer Certified? I love this video, it's very informative.
Thank you for this video. I had no idea they had a Seiko watch under 500 dollars that were close to the accuracy as the Grand Seiko with the 9f movement. I think Tissot offers some very good value for the money that I have seen on Jomashop. I don't care for Longines at all. I do see some good values with Christopher Ward which I used to not like but I think they upped their quality. Who knows in 2 years we might have a totally different list.
I buy watches for accuracy and functionality more so than fashion or looks. So we are talking mostly GMTs, World Timers, and Sports Watches. I've not seen any that offer accuracy in their sails pitch. They they spend a lot of time talking about all the cool gadgets that I can already see and all the time I'm wondering how well it does all of this. Yes, my most reliable and functional world time GMT combo sports watch is a Citizen Blue Angel but it has some features I wish were different or better so it aint perfect.
Mine is a cheap Automatic from China, Forsining for only 35 U$ (bought last year). It similar to Patek Phillipe Chronograph Geneve with date, day, month and 24 hour display. I had manually tuned it with handphone stopwatch for 3 days and now, wolaaa .....: The accuracy is pretty good, +15 sec/day in Horizontal and -10 in Vertical position. I wind it up 10 to 11 turns every 6AM and 6PM a day. Combine that position and wearing it for work, it can achieve_, +/- 5 sec a day,. After a month of using, my watch still exactly the same hour and minute with world clock reference.
“Amigo Barn Jelly”? 😂 That’s what it says on the timeline index for the Mido Baroncelli. I have noticed these weird timeline index names on your videos.
"Most accurate mechanical watches from $300-$2000" - Is that a typo? You didn't show a single mechanical watch priced below $400... Unless I missed something, in which case, I'd be happy to be wrong.
Great video, I think the brands should provide full disclosure on the web sites at least, the retailers, Jomashop especially, have incorrect information a lot of times so the Manufacturer should give you the real deal, some do; Fomex is pretty up front.
Hey all, thanks for watching as always. Just to bring my question that I asked in the video down here. Do you think brands provide enough information about their movements (tested, constructed, regulated)? Also, who does this well and who doesn't? Also, the C1 Morgan 3 Wheeler Chronometer is manual wind.
They could do a better job 100%👍
Nice seeing you here my friend. Agreed. Not many do it well.
Worst offender tag Heuer. Then breitling and such. Microbrands tend to give that info
The mako 2 didn’t have too much info from orient but I love their company so I trust them, plus it’s well known that it’s +\-15 seconds a day for the watch which I can deal with easily. Also can you do a video on watch straps with designs on them such as the tropical straps from cheapest nato straps
Is that a trick question? I thought it was illegal for watch manufacturers to use more than 20 words to describe their products or company histories.
All brands should declare their watches movements in every model. It's annoying that they don't, and I never buy a watch without knowing the movement inside.
shiran duarte Do you mean that they have an agreement with Selita/eta to give adjusted/personalized movements their own names? Or can you literally not find out with some microbrands?
@@gickojerke1262 no! They seem to think that the information about the movement is unimportant. So if one wants to know the movement, should look into forums, specialized sites or users manual. It's some brands though...
Yeah. Recently noticed that with Timex. The new Navi XL Automatic ... There's absolutely no information on the Timex website. Had to read a review of ablogtowatch to find out Timex uses a Myiota 8215.
I don't buy no age whisky as well.
Agreed 100%
Teddy should dye his hair blonde, throw on a pair of sunglasses and do at least one review as Johnny Bravo.
Hahahahaha the 90s child within me can get behind this
Yes, his hair has the vertical element for sure
Weight lifting would be helpful
Great idea 💡
Hahaha! Nailed it.
The powermatic 80 is an amazing movement. Seriously. Chrono accuracy, 80 hour power reserve, available from $500-$800.
Tissot chronometer watches are absolutely amazing for their prices
Agreed. Perhaps the most compelling on the list in terms of value.
The white dial ballade is my entry point to watch collection and oh boy would I say it's worth every cent. Silicon balance spring AND cosc certification AND great looks at a sub $1,000 is such a great value. Truly blessed by the economy of scale.
@@teekayuk I also got a Ballade ( the white dial with the bracelet) as my first "expensive" watch (not saying that my Seiko isnt awesome aswell, just a bit less pricy) and I absolutely love it to bits ! It just goes perfect with absolutely everything, doesnt matter if im wearing a suit or joggers and a big hoodie, it just matches everything. And as you already said, the value on this Thing is INSANE im still struggling really hard to find any points where they really cut costs in order to make this price happen because everything about the watch, from the build quality and the finishing to the movement and its complications, reliability and accuracy is just so far beyond the around 1000$ asking price.
Yep got one as one my first mechanicals.
@@Ocerry1 Right?! At first I thought the clous de paris bezel and center dial might make it appropriate only for going to work, but it's amazing how it also works while dressing down. As you said, even with joggers and a hoodie it doesn't feel out of place, it just makes you look sharp as hell. Tissot going with refining their classic collection in recent years is definitely the right move, since they clearly know what they're doing.
Bulova Precisionists for their one second per month accuracy and smooth sweeping seconds. The company does need direction (and a chief designer with functioning eyes) but they have such a rich history and bags of potential with that quartz movement. I think my dream job would be to turn this company around and make it into the brand it should be!
anonymous bosh I’d love to put their 262 hertz movement in some of my cheap divers with inaccurate automatic movements.
@@ThrE3-GeS I lay awake all night thinking about what you said and you're right, despite everything I should decline Citizen's generous offer. They'll no doubt be angry & disappointed I chose to do this at the very last minute after two long years of planning & discussions but I'm going to phone them right now.
Im just a random guy with a loud mouth. Don’t take that serious.
Tisssot PR100 is one of my favorite watches to wear. Sometimes I switch between the Tissot and Tag Heuer Professional quartz diver on the weekends!
The video doesn't actually note too much accuracy measurements so I thought I'd add my experience with two mechanical watches as examples to the discussion. First, my Timex Marlin 2017 reissue (hand wound) is accurate to +13 seconds /day. Second, my Hamilton Khaki Field (also hand wound) is +8 seconds/day. I'm happy with these results. I have a few quartz field and dive watches which are stupid accurate, of course.
I have the Marlin reissue as well and have found it to be very accurate. I think the higher level manufacture Chinese movements like in the marlin are quite good.
Bulova Precisionist. + or - 10 seconds a year. most are $200-400. It's the only quartz I own, I use it to set the mechanicals.
Just found your channel and truly enjoyed this video. I am very interested in affordable mechanical time pieces that actually are not Chinese movements. I have been looking at the Hamilton line as well, very good watches for under $1,000. All this information was very relevant and helpful, thank you!
Wearing my blue dial Tissot Visodate as I watch your well done video (though my Visodate is not quite as accurate as the watches in this video). By your videos you seem to feature mostly mechanical movements but in one of your videos you turned me onto the Casio Oceanus-S100. I find it to be a great looking watch with great specs and it's crazy accurate by design. I use that watch to sync up my automatics. Keep up the great work!
Brands don't provide enough information about their movements, totally agree with you Teddy!
The best arcuate and value for money is the Bulova ultra high frequency quartz.
I've seen them for as low as 130 dollars.
The Bulova moon watch is on my scope at the moment ! Just 299 dollars
I have the Bulova moon watch and accuracy is tops. I recently got a Steinhart vintage and was shocked on how accurate it is, was running about 5 seconds fast over a 3 day period. I found myself checking it against the iPhone too much because it was so accurate.
My 20 year old Raymond Weil. Still going strong and keeps very great time. $1000. More importantly to me, despite chewing through tons of watches due to an occupation where i use vibrating equipment, the Weil keeps chugging along. Very impressed.
Hi Teddy,
I'd love to see a video about watches with incredible lume. I love the tritium lume on my Marathon GSAR, but I'd like to learn about some more obscure options out there.
I am a Formex Essence Chronometer owner and it is an amazing watch and super value. I had the luxury of picking out my own retirement watch from my employer and was given no parameters as far as cost. I chose this watch out of all the possibilities out there. That kind of says it all! Of my 24 watches (and growing) this is my favorite!
Great review. All brands should be forthcoming about their movements, but I think that many consumers (not collectors or enthusiasts) now care more about brand recognition and appearance, rather than specifications, because of the fashion watch trend.
I can understand why the manufacturers are not very transparent when it come to the movement in their watches. Usually when I research a particular movement, it turns out to be a modified ETA or Valjoux. Also, if a watch is going to cost between $500 and $2000, is it too much to ask for there to be a color matched date wheel. As always, a lot of good info on an interesting topic.
My 15 years old Seiko Spring Drive SNR005 bought in 2005 never needs service since new and the accuracy is extremely consistent -1 second/week.
Spring reserve is 72 hours.
Love your videos teddy! It's fun to have a channel for watch enthusiasts! It feels like a social club! Your giving a face to the hobby in a way! Great job!
I had a Grand Seiko Quartz made in 1977 that kept amazing time. Certainly over engineered with their 2 second hand indicator when the battery was getting low. Recently I gave it away to a good friend. Now I mostly wear a little Seiko 7018-8000 chronograph. Just a beautiful slim movement and great looking watch for not a lot of bucks. Enjoy watching your reviews. Thanks.
What about Nomos? I find them very accurate and love that they make their own thin movements.
From "Glashute" specified.
Great video. I agree with your point about movements. Sometimes hard to find, especially when a brand has its own version of a common movement.
Thank you for this video, Teddy. Your passion is so refreshing.
These are amazing watches; especially that Christopher Ward and Ball.
Big fan of Christopher Ward for the very reason they are upfront about their movements and price accordingly...I really like their SH21 inhouse movey and hope to add it to my collection soon, thanks for all your work Teddy really enjoy the content.
I thought watch enthusiasts would be discerning, so why do they like this video? How can you like a video on 'Most Accurate Mechanical Watches' when it doesn't quantify how accurate they are? Just asserting they're accurate doesn't make them so, because we've no idea what he considers accurate.. A useless video unless you're interested in power reserve times, which he did provide stats for.
I guess you dont know what a COSC certified movement is? it is a movement that is accurate to -4 to +6 seconds per day. However, most chronometer movements preform better than this.
Merich I own a watch with a COSC certified movement, so I understand what it means. His video title states it’s the about *most* accurate watches and he says that while COSC is his benchmark some watches in the video aren’t COSC certified, which presumably means they’re *more* accurate (given the title) and the problem in the video he doesn’t mention which ones these are.
If this video is really about watches accurate to the COSC standard, then that’s what the title should’ve been, because the *most* accurate watches are far better than COSC, which is kinda crap by comparison.
At the very least he should have said which watches are COSC certified, but it doesn’t sound like he cares for details.
@@GodfreyMann now i get the point. Yeah, he should have put more effort in to the details.
Would be nice to state the actual accuracy for each model discussed (or have it below the video at least) not only for the Dolce. After all the focus of the video is accuracy...
Two things I seldom see in brands websites: info on movements, and overall watches thickness.
Omega is criminal with not showing thicknesses
Great list Teddy, there are some fantastic watches here. Thank you for another fantastic video :)
For quartz watches, I’d like to throw out the Bulova Lunar Pilot (as well as their other Precisionist watches). +-10 seconds per year accuracy. I’ve also seen Grand Seiko quartz watches for just over $2000.
Oh ya ! The lunar pilot is a super good and tasteful as well as fun and distinctive choice! Good one!
Enjoyed this video T thanks 👍
I’m going to go broke watching your videos
Hahaha it's hard to make them and not go broke so I feel your pain. Be smart though, watches are a marathon, not a sprint. Thanks for supporting the channel by watching!
Teddy Baldassarre i always will watch them, more strap videos plzzzzzz like I saw cheapest nato watches has some straps with designs on them and I wanted to know your thoughts on those
I own a Gruen Pecision chronometer that I've owned for almost 50 years. It's been cleaned once in that time and it still keeps amazingly good time. Still within a minute in six months, which is not bad for an old mass produced watch. At least I think it's not bad. My daily watch.
I have a Tissot that I purchased from Jomashop for $268 that has a 2824-2 movement. I wore it for 3 weeks and it was consistently running +8 sec/day regardless of the position a laid it down at night. I brought it to a friend that works on watches and asked him to slow it down by 8 sec/day. It took him about 10 minutes. Now it is running almost dead even. To me, chronometer certification is an marketing ploy to a largeextent. Also the problem with the "Powermatic" type movements is that it is virtually impossible to adjust unless you bring send it back to the factory. That Mido Heritage will be my next purchase but not the one with the Powermatic movement.
I love phonetic chapter titles in youtube. The "Mido Barncelli" came out as "Amigo Barn Jelly".
I got a Hamilton Khaki field automatic 38mm, same movement as the tissot powermatic 80h, slightly more refined. It's a bargain for the price, worth the mention.
yup min is good for +1 sec every two days at the moment
Long lug
I hate how opaque brands are about their movements, especially some Swiss manufacturers, that rebadge ETA's and call it something else. I have no problem with ETA or Sellita movements - in fact, I prefer them for cheaper watches simply because it means I can confidently have my local watchmaker service it. I know it won't cost me a small fortune to service, plus I know it will be a reliable movement. A lot of the time, it feels like "in-house" is an excuse to charge more for something equal to, or worse than an ETA movement.
If I want an "in-house" movement, I can get a Casio F91-W for $10.
For example Tag Heuer puts Sellita SW200 movement in a Carrera calibre 5 watch, charges $2,000 and it is totally inaccurate (+15 s/day). Not nice.
@@saynototheborg Good point.
Hi Teddy. We need an update on this category pretty please
Love Christopher Ward, beautiful build quality....
Nice video mate
Thanks for discussing Mido. Love my 38mm Multifort.
Elabore grade and above ETA 2824-2 healthy and regulated are in -3/+3 range a day. Great value for money.
I really liked this video alot more than your usual content! It doesn't feel like there was any "easy" or "popular" recommendations. Thank you.
Just discovered your channel today very interesting.I've honestly never been a watch enthusiast despite wearing them but your content might make me get a few others in the future. My main ones I use are cheap within $30.00-$40.00 each but they are pretty nice to me.I use a Denacci for my casual days and a Beverly Hills Polo Club for more formal events.I know they're probably not as popular as the typical Seiko's,Citizens,Orients,etc..but I like to stand out from the rest.
I have some nice Hamilton and Seiko watches but my most accurate is a Longines Conquest V H P quartz watch. $1000. 5 Sec +/-. A year.
yeah but looking at quartz movements in terms of accuracy is kind of cheating just because every 10$ trash toy-watch with a quartz movement can rival the absolute best of the best chronometers...
@@Ocerry1 you have a point . Then I would say my Hamilton khaki field automatic is + / - 2 sec a day . It has the new H 10 movement in it . It runs better then my Seiko sarbo35 .
The problem with HAQs is that they are thermally compensated. If you have a large number of watches and don't wear the HAQ one often, it defeats the point of owning one.
Mido is my favourite Swatch group offering.
I recently picked up a Tissot PR 100, the COSC version, for less than $300. It has gained 1 second in 10 days with daily wear.
Amazing how much better Longines watches look with normal length lugs like the Record you featured. Not only do long lugs look bad, IMO, but they make watches wear larger thus limiting their audience. Longines make weird design decisions in general, like 5 star reviews on the dial, but they did well with this Record.
I have the cheapest automatic skeletons watch Thomas Earnshaw ES-8140, no-one name China caliber. I like it! It's so cool and accurate.
Hi Teddy - big fan of the channel! Would you consider doing a video on most accurate automatic movements/watches below $300?
Fantastic Vlog. I like learning about the movements. I am leaning towards a quartz again for my collection because of the comfort when wearing it and the accuracy. They also seem to be very durable. as well. Thanks!
yay another vid, been waiting for this.
thanks for watching!
All movements CAN be optimised. Regardless of the number of position accuracies, eventually they decline & require attention. It's the nature of the mechanical beast. However, as noted, assistance with increased scientific knowledge helps (silicon springs) adjusted beat rates to increase power reserves. It all adds to the final overall performance for which I am grateful. Thanks for your content Teddy, it's always of value & Ben joy "needing out" when my curiosity is aroused.
Thanks for all the great info mate, appreciate it.
Keep up the good work
An accurate watch movement means everything to me.
For real
I hadnt heard of ths Longines Record before this video, I love that version with the Roman numerals. Great content, Teddy.
Accutron 2 should’ve made that list, super accurate. Remarkable bit of horological history between the accutron and the accutron 2.
Thank you for another great and informative video! I totally agree, some watch brands are not transparent enough about the movements in their watches. I always assume they are trying to hide something when they don't come out and say what it is very clearly.
Absolutely, brands should be more transparent about movements, especially the modified ones. I'd like to see a comparison of self-wind vs. hand-wind. Thx.
Your photography is really good man! Especially your flat lays and backgrounds to your shots, especially shone through in the Mido and Vacheron video's
Thank you, my friend! Trying to improve!
I love the Christopher Ward and Ball, the latter since I happen to be a railfan. I've no idea why, but I suspect that there's a book lurking inside you that needs to be published. That occurred to me when you talked about the Ball. History and watches are two of my passions.
I have a Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Spacemaster Glow. That watch is built to last.
Bueller!!! excellent video, definitely loved the Mido and the formex, thankyou
Ball is always an option on almost every list. This is truly a awesome company. I wish they would get the credit they truly deserve.
Great watches and it is great that you always find some very special watches
It's interesting how the first two Tissot images show the second hand missing the indices.
Great show Teddy!
Some great choices here, Teddy, nice video. I can attest to the quality of Chr Ward as I have the Mk 1 Trident cosc which is a superb watch. I also have 3 Tissots, all under 500€, which are outstanding value for money with fantastic attention to detail and solid movements. I would recommend Tissot to anyone 👍
Cheers!
My F-91W has been consistently +3 seconds per *year* since 2015. I was going to trash it and get a databank when it dies, but I think I'll hold onto this one for another decade or two at least.
My Longines retrograde moon phases run fast about a second a day which is fantastic. I guess I was lucky because it isn't a certified chronometer.
My most accurate automatic is still my first Seiko 5. It averages +0.5s/day when well wound!
My most accurate watch is still my Certina DS Action Precidrive, which runs about +1s/year :)
I have a Seiko 5 with the 7009 movement from the 1980s and it's still very accurate after all these years.
Correct. For example. My new Steinhart Ocean 39 Vintage GMT (Sept. 2020) had a tag that said ETA 2893-2/ Sellita 330-1. I suppose I was to guess. The case back says “Swiss Movement”. So, got my standing magnifying glass out, bifocals on, and read through the tiny sub-glass at highest magnification and still at the very edge, I almost missed the Eterna Maker’s Mark : ETA. Very close by we’re the numbers 2893-2. Mystery solved BUT Steinhart, a German Co. is not of the Swatch Group. I know I will botch the spelling but the name for partially finished movements is ebuasche (?). I thought ETA/Swatch recently decided to sell ebausche to Swatch participants only....? So, Mr. Teddy, answer to your inquiry into the “Transparency” of the industry and leaving much to be desired........yup, you are correct Sir. I adore my Steinhart and was DELIGHTED it had the ETA movement! I am currently looking for a Valjoux 7750. I may have crossed a watch nerd geekdom overload : I research the movement I want and then, find a good high value brand to go with it. .........is there any hope.......horological addiction............look away, look away at my shame......bwwwwaaaaaaaa...........look away...a....arg.....
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I came here looking to finally get myself a time piece that is worth something.
And by the end, I found myself wanting to see this out to 5k, 10k, and 50k. Not that I will EVER have such a watch, I just want to hear about the tech.
Agree on brands not being clear about their movements. Longines being the obvious one, but even Timex have started doing it!
My nomos is also very accurate (about 1-2 sec a day, which I think is great)
TIMEX is notorious for not listing movement specs.
Timex Marlin reissue has a Sea-gull St6 movement which is an excellent choice by timex imo
Wish I'd seen this before buying a new watch. Just got a Visodate Automatic and while I love the design, it gains about 25sec/day which is a bit disappointing. I wasn't expecting Rolex, Patek quality but still. Wish I had research a bit more before jumping into it.
The Seiko Dolce, a poor man's Calatrava in the best kind of way, is a true solution to the watch equation
I'm always impressed by Tissot. The movement and finish for the price is good on the better pieces. Nice quality butterfly bracelets. Plus huge variety. I have a few Tissots myself and love them. They have same quality as some watches that cost twice as much. But also have cheaper models, too.
The Ball was nice. Other watches, Baume and Mercier, Epos
My 2007 Breitling SuperOcean blue dial ref# A17360 gains 0-2 seconds a day. Pretty accurate for an automatic watch.
Ed Bishop, who played Cmdr. Ed Straker, in the 1970s TV show "UFO" wore a Certina watch.
Totaly agree- hard to find info on the calibers and especially on their accuracy.
Love your channel Ted! You opened me a whole new world haha.
Have a question for you. What do you think about Kronaby Connected watches with their hybrid features?
Just an addition to the Tissot PR100 line of COSC watches, it is also available in a “ladies” version at 33mm in a number of “color ways”. My wife especially likes her mother of pearl dial version😉.
Longines Record uses L888.4 movement from ETA, So, .4 is COSC? I have seen many of LONGINES are L888 movement even without Chronometer Certified? I love this video, it's very informative.
Missed the Ginault OR2 and Silent Service
Thank you for this video. I had no idea they had a Seiko watch under 500 dollars that were close to the accuracy as the Grand Seiko with the 9f movement. I think Tissot offers some very good value for the money that I have seen on Jomashop. I don't care for Longines at all. I do see some good values with Christopher Ward which I used to not like but I think they upped their quality. Who knows in 2 years we might have a totally different list.
Hi there Teddy, want to know your thoughts on the Tissot Couturier Day Date Powermatic 80. I think it's an often overlooked gem!
Christopher ward watches offer beauty and quality for a crazy price
I buy watches for accuracy and functionality more so than fashion or looks. So we are talking mostly GMTs, World Timers, and Sports Watches. I've not seen any that offer accuracy in their sails pitch. They they spend a lot of time talking about all the cool gadgets that I can already see and all the time I'm wondering how well it does all of this.
Yes, my most reliable and functional world time GMT combo sports watch is a Citizen Blue Angel but it has some features I wish were different or better so it aint perfect.
Mine is a cheap Automatic from China, Forsining for only 35 U$ (bought last year).
It similar to Patek Phillipe Chronograph Geneve with date, day, month and 24 hour display.
I had manually tuned it with handphone stopwatch for 3 days and now, wolaaa .....:
The accuracy is pretty good, +15 sec/day in Horizontal and -10 in Vertical position.
I wind it up 10 to 11 turns every 6AM and 6PM a day.
Combine that position and wearing it for work, it can achieve_, +/- 5 sec a day,. After a month of using, my watch still exactly the same hour and minute with world clock reference.
The only thing I don't like about Ball Trainmaster is that odd date window position right next to the numeral, or it would be a nice looking watch.
Anything with a Powermatic 80 movement
My Steinhart ocean one does a constant +7.2 seconds a day, not gonna tinker with it though. It has a ETA 2893.2 elaborate movement.
Tissot, yes I have one. Ball, I have 3 and want more👍👍👍👍👍
“Amigo Barn Jelly”? 😂
That’s what it says on the timeline index for the Mido Baroncelli.
I have noticed these weird timeline index names on your videos.
It will be awesome if tissot brings out diver watch with cosc certified
"Most accurate mechanical watches from $300-$2000" - Is that a typo? You didn't show a single mechanical watch priced below $400... Unless I missed something, in which case, I'd be happy to be wrong.
yes typo. The Tissot should have said $300 starting price.
@@TeddyBaldassarre Cool beans!
Seiko skx007, mine super accurate!
Great video, I think the brands should provide full disclosure on the web sites at least, the retailers, Jomashop especially, have incorrect information a lot of times so the Manufacturer should give you the real deal, some do; Fomex is pretty up front.