Was an absolute pleasure having you reviews my Wagon! A few tasty mods done.. but I think ill be calling you back for a re-run once that supercharger is thrown in ;)
Awesome looking wagon Treayy. By the way, the colour is pronounced the way it is spelled, Russian with a P in front of it. Prussian Steel. Like the word Crush. Prush. Prusshan. Prussian. Beautiful car, nonetheless, it is not Peruse-sian.
Your current cam with that lump wont suit a supercharger. I'd be interested to know the specs and what HTP say about adding a blower. Hopefully they future proofed you knowing your intentions.
Hello Ross, really enjoyed your first Queensland review. It’s a very nice sounding and looking commodore. He sure has turned this wagon into a really nice car. It is a credit to him for what he has done. Looking forward to the rest of your reviews from Queensland.
Just for anybody wondering, I tuned the car - the reason why the numbers might seem “low” is because the converter slips more than a stock stall would as it’s a higher stall speed. Hence it’ll show a slightly lower number than a stock converter, and a fair amount lower than a manual. And there is a LOT of work in that transmission tune. Hence why it shifts how it does haha.
@@RossReviewsau would of liked to have seen a 0-100 with some foot brake launch to bring the rpm up. 4.7 or something would been awesome. Always next time!
@alexmann3309 Hey Alex, I own a 2017 VF SV6 series 2. I wanted to install custom headers and a full exhaust. However, I was advised this isn’t possible with the alloy head and factory headers being one unit. Is that right? And what’s your opinion on the OTR cold intake systems and best maker??
@@xxHydroponicxx yeah mate, you just run a high flow head pipe. With a high flow cat. Then full exhaust. OTR’s are all much of a muchness, VCM ones have always been good!
When you upgrade the brakes bear in mind you will also have to change your front rims, the brembos reqiure a 29 offset rim for clearance. enjoy the ride Treay.
Yep it will, I have a 2014 vf ss storm sedan, 6 litre supercharged 6 speed manual, not only do I have the brembo upgrade but the disks have also been upgrade further to DBA T5 2 piece. And you need all of it. 😆
As someone who has a Prussian steel storm wagon as well, (almost stock) if anyone tells me to wrap it I'm deleting their number, it's my favourite colour on any car, gm smashed it out of the park with it.
Man that thing is a sleeper the owner is a mad & big C haha,he's done an excellent job with this wagon I love everything about it,cheers Johnny & Treay top vid guys.
A good time for a 20” wheeled heavy car. The large cam helps reduce wheel spin at low speeds to get traction and a decent time. Tyres must be half decent too. Conversion 0-100 is 5.2secs.
NGL I expected Treayy to act like a bit of a doosh, but it turns out that's just my prejudice showing; he seems like a solid, humble human being. Big ups!
The motor sure does sound amazing. Like Ross said though, they are a boat. All though, with how big modern hatchbacks have become these don't look all that much like land Yachts anymore.
Nice ride, noticed though the steering wheel shake with those twenty's on,same thing happened to me with my caprice twenty's look good but the feel is shit up front could be the brakes but. I did see Trey's vid and gyon vid you lapping in da pool and the skid gyon did, leaving you 😳. The meet looked insane. Nice wags and nice review 👍🇦🇺🍻
The wheels aren't the problem the drivetrain of ves is terrible (I own one) it's 100% something else. My 18s rub on the body and it's stock when I go to 20s I'll update this comment.
Perhaps a stupid question but - would it not have been easier/cheaper to get an SS wagon and swap the badges and exhaust tips? Or is this more a project where the exercise of LS swapping something is the goal?
My partner has a VF II SV6... haha she got it before I met her. I told her she should have got the SS. With all that said, I would be interested to know how easy the swap was from an electronics point of view. All the modules in cars these days that speak to each other via canbus. Was a full body loom needed, or did the motor roughly drop in with just an ECU required and a few pin-changes on the loom?
You don’t need a different coverta for a large cam it will compliment it but it’s required and untrue ur tuner is full of it I had a turbo killer cam in my LS and it was manual biggest u could get without modding ur heads it would worked behind a standard converta aswell
When it comes to optioning a larger cam a stall converter is the only way unless you want it do drive like shit. Most workshops want the best possible drivability while still being able to push power.
u do not need a brake upgrade, what makes you stop faster is a bigger contact patch of rubber to the ground, bigger brakes just disperse the heat more efficently..... there are several videos on you tube backing up everything im saying, Even with bigger brakes your tyre can only handle so much
gc cars nerang does a vf lfx (v6) to l77 (v8) conversion for $15,500. Cam and tune package $5500 or $6500 for stage 2 with the htp02 cam I think and the engine back may set you back $3500
He wanted this colour in the wagon.. I’m not sure they came with a V8 in this spec, regardless would be hard to find if he sold it.. so he decided to just swap in a V8. LS3 is better but still this rips good build
One can argue a VR38 GT-R motor would be the ultimate SV6 Upgrade given the history of Commodores using Nissan engines and the fact that the VR38 can produce over 3000 horsepower, something the LS would struggle with replicating.
The Vfs are great cars only because i have one but to spend all that money to convert a v6 to v8 is pretty crazy should of traded the v6 for a ss or ssv and if going to all that effort of changing motors why keep it an auto as a manual would of been a way better option
@RossReviewsau My perspective towards modifying vehicles is different from others. My thoughts about this subject also don't apply to this specific vehicle exactly how I figured because it's supposed to be a sports car. Let me explain what I meant in my comment. Here's a question, how is it an upgrade if you entirely change what you're updating? You're going from a standard sports wagon to a performance vehicle that shouldn't necessarily be on a public road. It's not like the model doesn't have a performance trim, but the way I see it, changing drivetrains isn't an upgrade if you also change the original intended vehicle use. That's a rebuild. A dirt road paved over is still the same because it was changed to travel easier. Despite the location, that road changed into a neighborhood with curbs, sidewalks, homes, street lamps, is not the same road anymore. It wasn't updated, it was rebuilt into something else. If you change motors in an excavator for a larger one, that would be considered an update. If you attach a crane arm to the same machine, it's not. You've rebuilt it so that it does something different than intended. It's no longer considered an excavator.
@@aku2dimensional it’s not that deep dude😂this ain’t philosophy, the car was a V6, now it’s a v8, sounds better, drives quicker than it did before, therefore it’s an upgrade
@@aku2dimensional Specially with your logic at the end, this car is still a car, it’s intended purpose hasn’t changed. It still gets him to the same places it got him before. He didn’t add anything to this like an arm on an excavator.
@aznabihossain I see your point, and truthfully I don't have a problem with the vehicle. It's supposed to be a sports wagon from the factory despite what powertrain is used, and I mentioned that before I began my explanation. Had it been done to a Honda Civic, for example, that would be changing the intended purpose. I find V8 swaps incredibly mundane and overdone, and I also find people who want powerful cars on the public street to be conceited. I was taught that all vehicles are dangerous weapons, and you should practice trigger discipline every time you're out on public roads as if you had a loaded firearm pointing at people. Folks who understand where they can and can't have unrestricted vehicle performance shouldn't be a problem, but very few do understand, and I don't care for that level of ignorance. Maybe that sort of demeanor got in the way of an honest estimation of what I think of this rebuild. However, I still have a problem with this being considered an upgrade. Although an upgrade is a general term, I'd prefer the word to be used as rebuild.
It's horrible what @Treayy has done to that poor wagon; and it's an automatic, so things have gone from bad to worse. Kid, you don't deserve that piece of machinery; it's too good for you. Better sell it to someone who will fully restore it, do a manual swap, and love and care for it.
@@RossReviewsau that's even worse! Who the hell drops in a V8 swap but doesn't drop in a manual transmission, and then turns it into a 20-something's ghettomobile!?!?! Just a catastrophe! You people deserve a tricycle for a three year old, not a car!
Was an absolute pleasure having you reviews my Wagon! A few tasty mods done.. but I think ill be calling you back for a re-run once that supercharger is thrown in ;)
Mate I’m too keen! Gotta get you over here for a rip my F6 👀😈
Awesome looking wagon Treayy. By the way, the colour is pronounced the way it is spelled, Russian with a P in front of it. Prussian Steel. Like the word Crush. Prush. Prusshan. Prussian. Beautiful car, nonetheless, it is not Peruse-sian.
Please include this call as part of the next time you this car gets reviewed! Will be an epic re-visited review!
Arms look swole in that shirt bro let me holla at you
Your current cam with that lump wont suit a supercharger. I'd be interested to know the specs and what HTP say about adding a blower. Hopefully they future proofed you knowing your intentions.
Hello Ross, really enjoyed your first Queensland review. It’s a very nice sounding and looking commodore. He sure has turned this wagon into a really nice car. It is a credit to him for what he has done. Looking forward to the rest of your reviews from Queensland.
Glad you enjoyed it qld did not disappoint! Lots of great cars coming
Just for anybody wondering, I tuned the car - the reason why the numbers might seem “low” is because the converter slips more than a stock stall would as it’s a higher stall speed. Hence it’ll show a slightly lower number than a stock converter, and a fair amount lower than a manual.
And there is a LOT of work in that transmission tune. Hence why it shifts how it does haha.
I could tell it had been done well! Really had good response and ease of shifting! Thanks for commenting 👏👏
@@RossReviewsau would of liked to have seen a 0-100 with some foot brake launch to bring the rpm up. 4.7 or something would been awesome. Always next time!
@alexmann3309
Hey Alex, I own a 2017 VF SV6 series 2.
I wanted to install custom headers and a full exhaust. However, I was advised this isn’t possible with the alloy head and factory headers being one unit. Is that right?
And what’s your opinion on the OTR cold intake systems and best maker??
@@xxHydroponicxx yeah mate, you just run a high flow head pipe. With a high flow cat. Then full exhaust. OTR’s are all much of a muchness, VCM ones have always been good!
@@alexmann3309 Hey bro by any chance do you remember the brand of the cam and the Cam Specs at all? Cheers
Just picked up a GSF recently, can’t believe how much I missed having an 8! This wagon sounds amazing, credit to the owner
Great stuff mate! Agreed credit to treayy for building this 😮💨👌
Should do an update on Treayy, pretty sure he has a phat clubby now
epic video man treayy puttin in work, Always loved his content and to see his car get a review is so good
Much appreciated! I’m a loyal treay fan now 👌 awesome human
@@RossReviewsau heck yeah man 😃
When Ross has a big smile going for the entire outro scene, you know its a good car 👌
Henk knows best 😎👍
When you upgrade the brakes bear in mind you will also have to change your front rims, the brembos reqiure a 29 offset rim for clearance. enjoy the ride Treay.
Definitely will be needed!
Yep it will, I have a 2014 vf ss storm sedan, 6 litre supercharged 6 speed manual, not only do I have the brembo upgrade but the disks have also been upgrade further to DBA T5 2 piece. And you need all of it. 😆
As someone who has a Prussian steel storm wagon as well, (almost stock) if anyone tells me to wrap it I'm deleting their number, it's my favourite colour on any car, gm smashed it out of the park with it.
Man that thing is a sleeper the owner is a mad & big C haha,he's done an excellent job with this wagon I love everything about it,cheers Johnny & Treay top vid guys.
Cheers Pete definitely did a good job modifying this wagon
I was waiting for this review!
Hope you like it! More to come
@@RossReviewsau Thanks mate, love the reviews.
A good time for a 20” wheeled heavy car. The large cam helps reduce wheel spin at low speeds to get traction and a decent time. Tyres must be half decent too. Conversion 0-100 is 5.2secs.
Pretty decent eh man i was impressed
Awesome 😎 video and collaboration Ross Reviews. When is the Ford AU Falcon XR6 VCT and HSV Grange SV from Melbourne coming?
Very soon! Thanks for watching
@@RossReviewsau will those 2 reviews be out this month?
I can't wait for my vf wagon to come to California. 2 more weeks it's here
Wow you got one! 👀 that will be awesome mate
treayy seems like a really cool dude.. great collab
He’s a legend
That’s one quick wagon . Not to much where traction issues it gets it all down . 👍
Grips and goes hard
THE VIDEO WE ALL WAITED FOR 🔥
Hope you enjoyed it
@@RossReviewsau Absolutely mate, i anticipate great videos every time i get the notification!
NGL I expected Treayy to act like a bit of a doosh, but it turns out that's just my prejudice showing; he seems like a solid, humble human being. Big ups!
Oh and the car is dope too; will be damn near perfect with the bigger brakes!
Fast wagons FTW.
The best sounding SV6 with an exhaust system 😂
😂👌👌👌
Nice car bro
Love the VF wagon - especially the redline
Missed the boat buying one before prices skyrocketed
Sounds fkn awesome too
Very cool wagon.. he done well modifying this o
lets talk about the fact these 2 amazing blokes are in nerang. born and raised in nerang. Treayy should come to nerang high to use our school gym
🙏🙏👑
I follow both of you’s, this is the video I needed
So glad you enjoyed this mate! 💪
Just had mine done at the same place
👌😈 this was done well
Man I thought the 0 to 100 was gonna be high as well! The size of the wheels matters broooo
Impressive time!
Swapped to a V8, Becoming more common, Well done, Cant go past that Rumble, Car looks Great,
Definitely worth it after driving this thing👌 was a good experience
The motor sure does sound amazing. Like Ross said though, they are a boat. All though, with how big modern hatchbacks have become these don't look all that much like land Yachts anymore.
This type of vehicle you don’t buy for handling.. straight line grunt and the noise is why you love these 😈💪
Need to tease out the guys who have done the LF3 V6 swap.
Keen to see that
rossy!! you’re starting to sound aussie
😎🇦🇺
This so needed to be done aye
Was a lot of fun filming
Great video Ross.
Was there any drone? Normally they recommend a 2 1/2" exhaust on the wagon because of the done!
Not really it’s sounded very clean
5 seconds is pretty bloody good with a passenger and in the heat we've been having here on the gc
Facts!
Nice ride, noticed though the steering wheel shake with those twenty's on,same thing happened to me with my caprice twenty's look good but the feel is shit up front could be the brakes but. I did see Trey's vid and gyon vid you lapping in da pool and the skid gyon did, leaving you 😳. The meet looked insane. Nice wags and nice review 👍🇦🇺🍻
Was a wild time here in qld I’ll definitely be back! Good vibes
@@RossReviewsau yeah it's always good for a holiday
The wheels aren't the problem the drivetrain of ves is terrible (I own one) it's 100% something else. My 18s rub on the body and it's stock when I go to 20s I'll update this comment.
didn’t expect this but pleasantly surprised
Glad you enjoyed it💪
Perhaps a stupid question but - would it not have been easier/cheaper to get an SS wagon and swap the badges and exhaust tips? Or is this more a project where the exercise of LS swapping something is the goal?
He wanted the colour and the wagon.. it many in that spec
@@RossReviewsauSame reason I’m going to v8 swap my slipstream blue vf
Im a ford guy buy this vf is amazing treayy is awesome.e aswell
He’s a legend and the wagon is epic
Gotta love the V8
Absolutely
My partner has a VF II SV6... haha she got it before I met her. I told her she should have got the SS. With all that said, I would be interested to know how easy the swap was from an electronics point of view. All the modules in cars these days that speak to each other via canbus. Was a full body loom needed, or did the motor roughly drop in with just an ECU required and a few pin-changes on the loom?
Pretty sure he paid someone to do it, he wouldn’t know
Just ecu and motor loom then need someone to reprogram and link to car...
Hahah I had a SS pull up beside me the other day on the forest freeway 🛣️ lots of sound but it didn’t go anywhere 😂
This one moves pretty well
the Colab we needed
👑🙏🙏🙏
You don’t need a different coverta for a large cam it will compliment it but it’s required and untrue ur tuner is full of it I had a turbo killer cam in my LS and it was manual biggest u could get without modding ur heads it would worked behind a standard converta aswell
You had a stall converter in your manual ???
When it comes to optioning a larger cam a stall converter is the only way unless you want it do drive like shit. Most workshops want the best possible drivability while still being able to push power.
My question is where does the clutch go of you got a stally in there, he said he had a manual ?
Done well mint wagon. Just needs a killaboost turbo kit
That’s the next upgrade 😍
Subscribed & LIKED!
Legend
See this a few times and still can’t understand why!!?
It’s actually more expensive than just going Ss from the beginning..
He wanted to do it 🤷♂️
You should come and drive our 2011 hsv clubsport r8
Would love to send us a message
Super tidy car..sounds nice...great review Johnny...
Glad you enjoyed it was a good machine
Nice V8 LS Wagon.
Sure is!
How much needs to be changed from v6 to v8? Wiring looms dash diff..?
Thinking about a gtr replica build on a Evoke. Do they swap lsa too?
Awesome car
Even better bloke 👑
I like how he lives in Queensland and his car has NSW licence plates.
He’s got new plates for it FYI I believe they go on it any day now
@@RossReviewsau thanks for your reply Ross.
Sweet wagon.
Sure is!
It really does go well
great wagon
Great job
Thanks 🙏
u do not need a brake upgrade, what makes you stop faster is a bigger contact patch of rubber to the ground, bigger brakes just disperse the heat more efficently..... there are several videos on you tube backing up everything im saying, Even with bigger brakes your tyre can only handle so much
Still needs bigger brakes 🫠
Maybe a turbo be good too
What a legend
Treayy is a champ
I’m tempted to put in an LS3 in my vf sv6
Worth it bro 👀
very nice whats the ball park cost for this upgrade sv6 to ls ?
gc cars nerang does a vf lfx (v6) to l77 (v8) conversion for $15,500. Cam and tune package $5500 or $6500 for stage 2 with the htp02 cam I think and the engine back may set you back $3500
Looks nice sounds mean thanks dudes
Appreciate the support
Owner sounds so humble 🙏🏽ripper car bro 💯
He’s very nice dude you should follow him
Ehhhhhhhhh me car is fast ehhhhhhh bro me car is fast bro ehhhhhhhhh
Ross the Boss crew checking in!
💪👑 you legend appreciate all the support
Has someone GTS drivetrain swap into a wagon yet?
I think some one had
How much is a V8 Swap kit these days?
a lot
@@RossReviewsau kefe
Fuck yeah treay 😘
He’s a legend
Alto grey isnt it ?
Not sure 🤔
What’s the name of the colour plz?
Why when you could buy them with the ls3
He wanted this colour in the wagon.. I’m not sure they came with a V8 in this spec, regardless would be hard to find if he sold it.. so he decided to just swap in a V8.
LS3 is better but still this rips good build
Does sound pretty cool tho I’ll admit
Was a great build
One can argue a VR38 GT-R motor would be the ultimate SV6 Upgrade given the history of Commodores using Nissan engines and the fact that the VR38 can produce over 3000 horsepower, something the LS would struggle with replicating.
Ever in nz hit me up Ross got a vf holden for a review
Cheers man hopefully
4.8 ton wagon?.
1.8
Sounds mint
Beautiful build 😮💨👌
This was filmed at emerald lakes that’s where I live
Nice spot
Wouldn’t it make sense and be cheaper to just buy a ss rather then swapping everything?
Could have been.. but he wanted the wagon in this colour so makes it hard to get
@@RossReviewsau yeah that’s fair
i dont get why you wouldnt just buy the V8 wagon??
Wanted this spec I guess
You gotta do mine
Keen brother
King trey
He’s a legend
Paint the roof wraps suck
I would just leave it eh
The lights look like they are rainbow
They can be
@@RossReviewsau oh yeah
The Vfs are great cars only because i have one but to spend all that money to convert a v6 to v8 is pretty crazy should of traded the v6 for a ss or ssv and if going to all that effort of changing motors why keep it an auto as a manual would of been a way better option
He loves the wagon and colour n wanted to keep it auto for the time being.. a lot of money but he got what he wanted 👌
yeah bud simmons
Gotta love em🇦🇺😂
@@RossReviewsau love ya bud
I wouldn't call that an upgrade. Paving a dirt road is an upgrade, rebuilding it into a neighborhood with sidewalks and homes is entirely different.
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@RossReviewsau My perspective towards modifying vehicles is different from others. My thoughts about this subject also don't apply to this specific vehicle exactly how I figured because it's supposed to be a sports car. Let me explain what I meant in my comment.
Here's a question, how is it an upgrade if you entirely change what you're updating? You're going from a standard sports wagon to a performance vehicle that shouldn't necessarily be on a public road. It's not like the model doesn't have a performance trim, but the way I see it, changing drivetrains isn't an upgrade if you also change the original intended vehicle use. That's a rebuild.
A dirt road paved over is still the same because it was changed to travel easier. Despite the location, that road changed into a neighborhood with curbs, sidewalks, homes, street lamps, is not the same road anymore. It wasn't updated, it was rebuilt into something else.
If you change motors in an excavator for a larger one, that would be considered an update. If you attach a crane arm to the same machine, it's not. You've rebuilt it so that it does something different than intended. It's no longer considered an excavator.
@@aku2dimensional it’s not that deep dude😂this ain’t philosophy, the car was a V6, now it’s a v8, sounds better, drives quicker than it did before, therefore it’s an upgrade
@@aku2dimensional Specially with your logic at the end, this car is still a car, it’s intended purpose hasn’t changed. It still gets him to the same places it got him before. He didn’t add anything to this like an arm on an excavator.
@aznabihossain I see your point, and truthfully I don't have a problem with the vehicle. It's supposed to be a sports wagon from the factory despite what powertrain is used, and I mentioned that before I began my explanation. Had it been done to a Honda Civic, for example, that would be changing the intended purpose.
I find V8 swaps incredibly mundane and overdone, and I also find people who want powerful cars on the public street to be conceited. I was taught that all vehicles are dangerous weapons, and you should practice trigger discipline every time you're out on public roads as if you had a loaded firearm pointing at people. Folks who understand where they can and can't have unrestricted vehicle performance shouldn't be a problem, but very few do understand, and I don't care for that level of ignorance.
Maybe that sort of demeanor got in the way of an honest estimation of what I think of this rebuild. However, I still have a problem with this being considered an upgrade. Although an upgrade is a general term, I'd prefer the word to be used as rebuild.
😂😂😂😂
It's horrible what @Treayy has done to that poor wagon; and it's an automatic, so things have gone from bad to worse. Kid, you don't deserve that piece of machinery; it's too good for you. Better sell it to someone who will fully restore it, do a manual swap, and love and care for it.
Idk what your on about.. treayy made that wagon epic… he loves it too… not sure if your just a hater or what.. ps those wagons only came in automatic
@@RossReviewsau the SS-V came with a manual transmission. And I love the Holden SS-V wagon.
this was an SV6 originally @@AnnatarTheMaia
@@RossReviewsau that's even worse! Who the hell drops in a V8 swap but doesn't drop in a manual transmission, and then turns it into a 20-something's ghettomobile!?!?! Just a catastrophe! You people deserve a tricycle for a three year old, not a car!
shit rig, why wouldnt you go a real LS3 if doing a swap. stop trying to talk it up ive been a fan until now
mate its a killer V8 what are you on about lol
@@RossReviewsau dog shit not even a real LS
Noice 🇦🇺🍻👍
👍💪💪💪
Why not just buy an ss
Wanted this spec of wagon.. not easy to find in a v8
Haha
This is the most bogan Australian video I’ve ever seen
Really lol I’ve got plenty of more bogan videos 😈🇦🇺
@@RossReviewsau don’t post them, for the sake of the internet please do not post them 🙏🏼
Mad car bro love a good v8 transplant very stealthy looking community👊
🤟🫡
Trump make V8s again
lets go!