J'aime la coupe de la Moto,mais honnêtement sa avance pas...en plus en ballade en duo en montagne et avec des potes qui ont des motos a + de 100 CV,sa doit être l enfer... mieux a ce compte la Royal Enfield 650 interceptor pour avoir une sensation d'accélérer un peu..
This is not a performance motorcycle, it is a relax and just ride machine. I got one and it a lot more fun to ride than my Suzuki. Who cares what speedometer says. But great video, as always.
This may or may not be by design. My Vespa speedo is also lying like there was no tomorrow. I have seen this on many Italian vehicles, not only motorbikes, that the speedo would show noticeably more than the true speed. I was told that this is due to the national preference to treat posted speed limits as suggestions more than anything else, so people go 10-20kph over and still not break the law :-) Since the speedo is digital, the measured speed is actually very accurate, it’s a design decision as to what the needle will point at for any given actual speed.
@@MotoSnax it's huge, but not compared to other Italian two wheelers... E.g. my Vespa claims to be doing 60 when really rolling just over 45. Doesn't matter kph or mph...
Not that I know of. I know the TNT 125 can be changed, but I doubt something like that will work for the Imperiale. As long as you are aware what the true speeds are, that is half of the solution.
I think this bike is really underpowered or really heavy, a 400cc topping out at 120kmh it's just awful, I ride a 1998 Honda cb250 nighthawk/two fifty and weighting almost 170kg wet, it tops at 130km on a good day
So we know now why owners of Benelli Imperiale is faster than some more powerful and lighter Japanese bikes ;). It's speedometer is as accurate and truthful as information in national Chinese TV.
@@The77Game Gentlemen, this bike is not meant to be fast, is not a fast bike and no one says it is and no one expects it to be. Just take a secondaty road and enjoy your riding! Bad thing they lie tho... They should write the truth...
i have one. Must say i love it. Rear shocks need to be changed. Apart it's an really cool bike like an XT 400 ...perfect for my 62 year age & cool riding. For yound people i think it's boring
To inform people I must say that I got Euro5 model for month but 120 km/h on my speedometer is 120 km/h via GPS app Relive. So I relied on this video for a month breaking law :D
And you were wondering why everyone was driving so slow. :) I must say that if speedo shows the same as GPS that the Chinese did an awesome job. All Benelli's were off by a lot compared to non-Chinese brands.
@@MotoSnax exactly like you said but first 1000km I didn't care about it cause I rode slow most of the time, but after first service last week I started pull the gas finally.. I must try tommorow not cross 100 kmh stop and look how much it will be in app. By the way, max speed is same as yours 125-130.
Could it be that the speedometer of this specific bike has some issues? I ride on an Imperiale as well and I seem not to have these huge deviations. My top speed is touching 130 km/h on a good day and is only slightly higher with very strong wind from the back. And even when riding a moderate 100 km/h on the highway, I still find myself in need of overtaking the occasional car, which for sure do not drive 85 km/h. Also, compared to other bikes, the wind pressure feels the same for similar speeds on the speedometer...
I had the same thing on a Benelli TNT125 and Benelli 502C. Big difference between speedo an GPS. What you can do is start a GPS app (on Android I use 'Speedometer' an icon with a light blue '69' in it) on your phone, put it in your jacket and try to reach your top speed. 130 km/h is about 109-110 km/h on this one. 150 km/h on speedo is in the most ideal conditions, also slightly downhill (about 2% decline or so as The Netherlands is pretty flat. No mountains over here).
I can see why you would expect me to be shocked about the GPS speed but sadly not. It is worse than i have ever seen but not enough to shock me. Had it been very accurate, then i would have been shocked. I wonder how the 0-100 would have looked if we went by GPS speeds.
It shocked me to see that 120 km/h is barely 100 km/h. Or that 100 km/h is just 85 km/h. 0-100 with GPS would be 0-119 km/h on the Benelli. But I'd have to do that with all motorcycles. It is more that you get an idea for that 0-100.
@@MotoSnax Yes it's not that i expected you to start doing 0-100 by GPS speed (even though that would be awesome). But because of that huge exaggeration the speedometer has, the already slow 0-100 could be around 12 seconds instead.
I have checked the GPS also with another phone. Or perhaps two phones. They all show about the same. Trust me. Benelli speedometers are WAY off. At least for all the Benelli's I did ride.
MI sembra un pò poco che un 400cc possa non andare più di 120km .... e vero che pesa ......Io ho un 300 senza dire fare pubblicità di una marca austrica... e vola abbondantemente arriva 130km e ho ancora gas x spingermi .....
@@MotoSnax my question is cause - from official tests - the true max speed is 127 km/h ( taki= 140/145 km/h )and max power ( on wheel ) is 17,6 cv @ 5400 rpm; so: If at 130 km/h ( taki ) we have 6000 rpm, at the maximum real speed engine goes at 6600 rpm ( gulp!!! 22% overtaking ) ; I suggest to change the original final ratio ( 13/46 ) = 3.286, with a longer one ( 16/44 ) = 2.75; so you con have: 1) more top speed ( about 129/130 km/h ), @ 5600 rpm; 2) more comfort; 3) less comsumption; 4) more cruise speed; 5) less engine stress; Bye
I was able to do 150 km/h on the speedometer, which was 129 km/h on GPS. It was around 6500 rpm. But your suggestion might help as you change both and it would run lower revs at top speed. But I'm not really a gear ratio expert. :)
@@giovannipconsalvi2275 You will not gain more speed by raising the gearing. Power output is the limiting factor here, which is why the engine is geared short, to allow tractability across normal riding speeds. Sub 18 bhp at the back wheel will only ever give around 80 mph maximum in dead flat still wind conditions, no matter how you gear it. However, raising the gearing will make the bike incredibly frustrating against hills & head winds. I speak from experience in experimenting with gearing on my Enfield Bullet diesel 500. Originally I geared it at 18 mph per 1000, because max torque arrives at 2,500 - with maximum power at 3,600. But this extreme high gearing is counter productive, as the engine cannot reach maximum power revs, & struggles everywhere in top. 12 hp on an Enfield is good for 55 mph, but with such low revs to play with, the best policy is to gear sufficiently short to let the engine stretch its legs. So it now has the standard Enfield 350 sprocket of 16 teeth, giving 52 mph @ 3600, or 14.4 mph per 1000. The Benelli 400 seems to be geared at approx 12 mph per 1000. But that is because the engine develops much more power at much higher revs than my diesel 😅 & needs to be allowed to reach those revs for the extra 28 mph. Wind resistance rises at the square of the speed, so it requires more than double my diesel horsepower to see 80 mph. Mine can only pull higher ratios because it tops out at 52 & no more, which requires just 8 bhp at the back wheel to overcome wind resistance, with a small reserve in hand. At 52, the Benelli 400 will be doing around 4300-4500, & will be producing 18 bhp at the crankshaft, so plenty in reserve to resist hills & head winds. Which is exactly what you would want.
Yeah but if you are first at the traffic lights and a row of cars behind you and you keep the speedometer at 80 km/h on a 80 km/h road then I'm sure you will annoy people.
@@MotoSnax You dont understand , if You ride 90 u know actually is 80 , cars usually when drive 90 have about 84-86, their Speedo is wrong Aswell. Here Main issue is V max is huge difference between GPS and Speedo that's why i mention this kind of bike Is for slower riding anyway so that difference dosent really matter.. My chinese bike have just 4km/h off Speedo on 90km/h and never anybody honk on me.. maybe in netherlands people Like using honk
@@kamillisowski2931 Over here almost everyone is in a hurry. BTW 90 km/h on the Benelli is 76 km/h on GPS. This would be about what a car should do at 80 km/h on their speedo. It is good to know you should ride a bit faster on the speedo than the average motorcycle. Our country is just too packed with people to just pick a speed whichever you like. It is either max speed limit of a certain road or a bit faster. Not slower. People of old age might ride slower on our roads. 😁
Despite it's nice vintage looks this bike is as slow as molasses!.... it's because it's so heavy and low hp that it can't even reach real 120km/h. It should be a two cylinder v design...
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J'aime la coupe de la Moto,mais honnêtement sa avance pas...en plus en ballade en duo en montagne et avec des potes qui ont des motos a + de 100 CV,sa doit être l enfer... mieux a ce compte la Royal Enfield 650 interceptor pour avoir une sensation d'accélérer un peu..
This is not a performance motorcycle, it is a relax and just ride machine. I got one and it a lot more fun to ride than my Suzuki. Who cares what speedometer says. But great video, as always.
Yep. Really fun bike. As long as you know the true speeds, no problem!
That's one neat speedometer. 9-10 kmph fluctuation is normal but 21kmph difference is a huge chinese lie.😅
Haha yep. Big difference.
My UK model has a very optimistic speedometer same as your error.
@@johnrocker2986 Glad to hear it is not just this one.
Thank you buddy . Thanks a lot. I'll subscribe. You have done a great job. You revealed the true performance
of this bike. Well done !!
Thanks for watching and subscribing! If you know the real speed, it is a pretty fun bike to ride.
So top speed is 102 kilometer per hour?
I don't mind speedos lying by +5% but nearly +20%? That's ridiculous.
Very useful, we follow the speedometer and we'll never be caught by the radar. 🤣
That is true :)
Good job . My Imperiale has an error 14- 15% plus compared to the real speed .
That is a lot! Still a fun bike if you keep this in the back of your head when riding anywhere.
How is this bike reliablity? Does it have many issues in a long run?
I don't know, perhaps viewers that own one can reply. I think a lot of people wonder that about Benelli. How is it going to hold in 10 years?
This may or may not be by design. My Vespa speedo is also lying like there was no tomorrow. I have seen this on many Italian vehicles, not only motorbikes, that the speedo would show noticeably more than the true speed. I was told that this is due to the national preference to treat posted speed limits as suggestions more than anything else, so people go 10-20kph over and still not break the law :-)
Since the speedo is digital, the measured speed is actually very accurate, it’s a design decision as to what the needle will point at for any given actual speed.
But the difference is HUGE. Also compared to other Chinese brands like CFMOTO.
@@MotoSnax it's huge, but not compared to other Italian two wheelers... E.g. my Vespa claims to be doing 60 when really rolling just over 45. Doesn't matter kph or mph...
Hey man. Love your videos 👍
Can you do the piaggio mp3 300 hpe and the yamaha tricity 300 top speed and acceleration please ?
Thank you.
Thanks! Well, not this year. Perhaps next year. I do have top speed for the MP3 500 HPE on the channel though.
@@MotoSnax Ja ik ken de mp3 500 hpe video. Bedankt en gefeliciteerd alvast met je zoontje 😉👍
Dank je. :) Ik denk dat de 300 zo rond de 135-140 km/u oid zal lopen, maar zeker weten doe ik dat niet.
Es una motocicleta engañosa??
GPS difference is big. yes. But if you know that, no problem.
@@MotoSnax gracias por aclarar mi duda!!!
Also makes fuel economy look better than reality.
true.
I just got a E5 and I wonder if there's a fix for this after 2 years ?
Not that I know of. I know the TNT 125 can be changed, but I doubt something like that will work for the Imperiale. As long as you are aware what the true speeds are, that is half of the solution.
@@MotoSnax agree, thanks. This bike is so fun to ride.
I think this bike is really underpowered or really heavy, a 400cc topping out at 120kmh it's just awful, I ride a 1998 Honda cb250 nighthawk/two fifty and weighting almost 170kg wet, it tops at 130km on a good day
It can reach 129 km/h on GPS. But yes, 400's should go faster.
So we know now why owners of Benelli Imperiale is faster than some more powerful and lighter Japanese bikes ;). It's speedometer is as accurate and truthful as information in national Chinese TV.
Even with the speedometer exaggeration i don't see it being faster than any of the japanese bikes of either similar horsepower or displacement.
@@The77Game Of course in reality it's not faster.
For 374cc it is not really fast. Same goes for the Royal Enfield Himalayan. But still a fun bike to ride.
@@MotoSnax Buddy, there are some videos about this bike going faster than Jawa 42. Is it posisble?
@@The77Game Gentlemen, this bike is not meant to be fast, is not a fast bike and no one says it is and no one expects it to be. Just take a secondaty road and enjoy your riding! Bad thing they lie tho... They should write the truth...
i have one. Must say i love it. Rear shocks need to be changed. Apart it's an really cool bike like an XT 400 ...perfect for my 62 year age & cool riding. For yound people i think it's boring
To inform people I must say that I got Euro5 model for month but 120 km/h on my speedometer is 120 km/h via GPS app Relive. So I relied on this video for a month breaking law :D
And you were wondering why everyone was driving so slow. :) I must say that if speedo shows the same as GPS that the Chinese did an awesome job. All Benelli's were off by a lot compared to non-Chinese brands.
@@MotoSnax exactly like you said but first 1000km I didn't care about it cause I rode slow most of the time, but after first service last week I started pull the gas finally.. I must try tommorow not cross 100 kmh stop and look how much it will be in app. By the way, max speed is same as yours 125-130.
Apparently on my E5 is 100km/h - 90 km/h in gps
OK so there are some differences.
Could it be that the speedometer of this specific bike has some issues? I ride on an Imperiale as well and I seem not to have these huge deviations. My top speed is touching 130 km/h on a good day and is only slightly higher with very strong wind from the back.
And even when riding a moderate 100 km/h on the highway, I still find myself in need of overtaking the occasional car, which for sure do not drive 85 km/h.
Also, compared to other bikes, the wind pressure feels the same for similar speeds on the speedometer...
I had the same thing on a Benelli TNT125 and Benelli 502C. Big difference between speedo an GPS. What you can do is start a GPS app (on Android I use 'Speedometer' an icon with a light blue '69' in it) on your phone, put it in your jacket and try to reach your top speed. 130 km/h is about 109-110 km/h on this one. 150 km/h on speedo is in the most ideal conditions, also slightly downhill (about 2% decline or so as The Netherlands is pretty flat. No mountains over here).
I can see why you would expect me to be shocked about the GPS speed but sadly not. It is worse than i have ever seen but not enough to shock me. Had it been very accurate, then i would have been shocked. I wonder how the 0-100 would have looked if we went by GPS speeds.
It shocked me to see that 120 km/h is barely 100 km/h. Or that 100 km/h is just 85 km/h. 0-100 with GPS would be 0-119 km/h on the Benelli. But I'd have to do that with all motorcycles. It is more that you get an idea for that 0-100.
@@MotoSnax Yes it's not that i expected you to start doing 0-100 by GPS speed (even though that would be awesome). But because of that huge exaggeration the speedometer has, the already slow 0-100 could be around 12 seconds instead.
Oh maybe even slower than that. :)
Skąd wiadomo że GPS dobrze wskazuje? To tylko elektronika...
I have checked the GPS also with another phone. Or perhaps two phones. They all show about the same. Trust me. Benelli speedometers are WAY off. At least for all the Benelli's I did ride.
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MI sembra un pò poco che un 400cc possa non andare più di 120km .... e vero che pesa ......Io ho un 300 senza dire fare pubblicità di una marca austrica... e vola abbondantemente arriva 130km e ho ancora gas x spingermi .....
This is Chinese. If you mean KTM what you ride, KTM compared to Benelli is night and day difference.
A question: do you have the original final ratio ( 14/46) on your bike?
It has the original ratio. I didn't count the teeth.
@@MotoSnax my question is cause - from official tests - the true max speed is 127 km/h ( taki= 140/145 km/h )and max power ( on wheel ) is 17,6 cv @ 5400 rpm; so:
If at 130 km/h ( taki ) we have 6000 rpm, at the maximum real speed engine goes at 6600 rpm ( gulp!!! 22% overtaking ) ;
I suggest to change the original final ratio ( 13/46 ) = 3.286, with a longer one ( 16/44 ) = 2.75; so you con have:
1) more top speed ( about 129/130 km/h ), @ 5600 rpm;
2) more comfort;
3) less comsumption;
4) more cruise speed;
5) less engine stress;
Bye
I was able to do 150 km/h on the speedometer, which was 129 km/h on GPS. It was around 6500 rpm. But your suggestion might help as you change both and it would run lower revs at top speed. But I'm not really a gear ratio expert. :)
@@giovannipconsalvi2275 You will not gain more speed by raising the gearing.
Power output is the limiting factor here, which is why the engine is geared short, to allow tractability across normal riding speeds.
Sub 18 bhp at the back wheel will only ever give around 80 mph maximum in dead flat still wind conditions, no matter how you gear it.
However, raising the gearing will make the bike incredibly frustrating against hills & head winds.
I speak from experience in experimenting with gearing on my Enfield Bullet diesel 500.
Originally I geared it at 18 mph per 1000, because max torque arrives at 2,500 - with maximum power at 3,600. But this extreme high gearing is counter productive, as the engine cannot reach maximum power revs, & struggles everywhere in top.
12 hp on an Enfield is good for 55 mph, but with such low revs to play with, the best policy is to gear sufficiently short to let the engine stretch its legs.
So it now has the standard Enfield 350 sprocket of 16 teeth, giving 52 mph @ 3600, or 14.4 mph per 1000.
The Benelli 400 seems to be geared at approx 12 mph per 1000. But that is because the engine develops much more power at much higher revs than my diesel 😅 & needs to be allowed to reach those revs for the extra 28 mph.
Wind resistance rises at the square of the speed, so it requires more than double my diesel horsepower to see 80 mph.
Mine can only pull higher ratios because it tops out at 52 & no more, which requires just 8 bhp at the back wheel to overcome wind resistance, with a small reserve in hand.
At 52, the Benelli 400 will be doing around 4300-4500, & will be producing 18 bhp at the crankshaft, so plenty in reserve to resist hills & head winds. Which is exactly what you would want.
very liar speedometer 😲
Worst worst speedometer in this world.
No wonder my friend is selling this bike, super slow.
But they are also super cheap.
Who cares about speedometer here , its not sport bike just pleasure to ride about 80-90km/h
Well it is good to know why people honk and overtake when you ride 80 kmh on speedometer. 😁
@@MotoSnax i mean 80-90 with normal traffic speed
Yeah but if you are first at the traffic lights and a row of cars behind you and you keep the speedometer at 80 km/h on a 80 km/h road then I'm sure you will annoy people.
@@MotoSnax You dont understand , if You ride 90 u know actually is 80 , cars usually when drive 90 have about 84-86, their Speedo is wrong Aswell. Here Main issue is V max is huge difference between GPS and Speedo that's why i mention this kind of bike Is for slower riding anyway so that difference dosent really matter..
My chinese bike have just 4km/h off Speedo on 90km/h and never anybody honk on me.. maybe in netherlands people Like using honk
@@kamillisowski2931 Over here almost everyone is in a hurry. BTW 90 km/h on the Benelli is 76 km/h on GPS. This would be about what a car should do at 80 km/h on their speedo. It is good to know you should ride a bit faster on the speedo than the average motorcycle. Our country is just too packed with people to just pick a speed whichever you like. It is either max speed limit of a certain road or a bit faster. Not slower. People of old age might ride slower on our roads. 😁
Despite it's nice vintage looks this bike is as slow as molasses!.... it's because it's so heavy and low hp that it can't even reach real 120km/h. It should be a two cylinder v design...
It can reach 120 km/h. You can see that in my other video: ruclips.net/video/-okIk15_vGw/видео.htmlsi=k85RVPgE7JxY-uSq
@@MotoSnax thnx man I watched it. Now, have you done or plan to do a speed test with GPS on TRK 251?
No TRK 251 demo's over here...
Que castaña. La Daystar 250 se pone a 150 km/h con 23cv de GPS 138km/h.