Pedro Acosta at 14 years old sliding his bike on his knee and sliding the rear, in a car park ruclips.net/video/vXydA5rsLDM/видео.html Would like special care parks like this for practice.
This is a thing you must master before getting your license in Sweden , nice to see you showing it, cause this is way more harder than riding with speed
I like this exercise: From standstill, put the feet on the pegs. The bike starts to fall over because I'm standing still. Then, instead of putting a foot down, use throttle+clutch and see the bike raise itself up again. The nice thing about this exercise is that you can repeat this, and each time, let the bike "fall" a little bit further before taking off. This also helps to build confidence that if it "falls" you don't need a foot to stop it from falling, it builds confidence that driving the wheel will lift the bike up. Also, it's just a great feeling to have the bike magically raise itself up with just some clutch/throttle.
Excellent! Yes, this exercise is called "Trust and believe" and is promoted on the Robert Simmons channel paying it forward. He is a retired motor officer like Jerry Pallidino and has great exercises for clutch control. That exercise is one of the first ones that I show people when they come practice with me.
@@stephgoes4aride Lol, I love it that so many people are watching and practicing thier skills. It makes us all more confident and safer riders. Keep practicing!
A similar thing works well for teaching people to drive a stick shift car. Most people teach a person to add a bit of gas when letting out on the clutch, and that causes excessive lurching and makes the person even more nervous. You can use this same "friction finding" technique to help people learn a cars clutch just as easy. Put them either on a hill (i prefer this) or on flat ground, and tell them take off without using the gas. Just slowly let out on the clutch, and you'll FEEL that engagement, once it starts to move, push in on the clutch again, then repeat. Eventually they are moving a couple inches at a time without adding any gas. Once they have that down, the rest comes naturally. Just getting them to understand that friction point is crucial.
I am a 51 year old female and have recently started learning to ride. I have been watching your videos weekly and have learnt SO MUCH !!!! I took a practice course for learner riders who are about to go for their provisional license, and even though I literally only just got my learner's permit and was not interested in getting my license just yet (I simply thought it would be good experience for me to do any courses on offer), as it turned out, I did WAY better than all the young guys who had been on their learners for a year! No doubt they have probably spent all their time buzzing around on the streets but have paid little to no attention to improving their slow speed manoeuvring skills. I was the only one in the course who didn't knock over any cones or need to keep putting my feet down to stop the bike from falling over! The whole "friction zone" concept is permanently embedded in my brain now. The guys on the course were so impressed with me. :) So thank you for all your wonderful, informative instructional videos.
I have a lot of confidence and control of my bike thanks to MotoJitsu practice. I'm slowly applying my skills on the streets and it's awesome. Today feels like a good day to practice from the beginning and continue to improve the basics.
It's because of guys like you that I was able to skip years of trying to figure it out myself with no help. To be able to pay attention to your videos and put it to the streets. I practice this drill quite a bit because not only is it good at low speeds but it is really good for 90 degree turns.
You described controlling the clutch so much better than they did in my beginner course. I got told I have to rebook to take day 1 again so hopefully I can progress to day 2 and the assessment day of the course to get my Ls. Im hoping this time I can get through day 1 using your advice.
As long as you have power to the rear wheel it win never fall.Even from a stop,the bike starts to far,add a little throttle and let out the clutch easy.The bike will straighten like magic.
His videos are actually relevant to real first time older riders on big bikes. Yes the weight is freaking me since I’m afraid of dropping this expensive heavy bike (11k r7) and hurting myself
Hey Jitsu, I just subbed your channel. I've been riding for a long time since 1992 and now I'm in my mid 50's and I have a new bike and since I hadn't ridden in a while it's like I forgot these small but important techniques, so thanks, take care, Mike.
When I was taking my 2 day training for a second time my bike also trapped my fingers!! I am glad yours is the same so I can get an example of someone doing it with a similar type of steering.
As a beginner I find this very interesting and helpful. I will definitely try this for myself. I love the fact that the explanation is densed down to this essential piece of information. We have to test our own limits to know our limits. Makes sense to me.
I've found on my DCT bike I have to add some rear brake, allowing me to keep power up, pushing against the drag of the brake. Instead of controlling lean with the clutch, I control it with the brake. As a result, I can do all your exercises without undue stress. Same principle, just different controls.
I too have the dct. I must admit, I find slow speed drills more challenging on dct but slowly but surely improvements are happening. Thanks for sharing. It is encouraging.
Been riding for 20yrs ,today I did 30 min of white belt practice and don't have to duck walk bike at gas station anymore ,as soon as I got back on the street I felt like it was easier to ride, excited to get to black belt,
As a new rider I was definitely scared of dropping an R6 i shouldn't have owned out the gate because it was so pretty I didn't want to hurt it. You're definitely right, you gotta be comfortable with the bike falling over and that all boild down to your motto of practice, practice, practice. Just like the military where all we do is build muscle memory to near perfection on weapon systems and other various systems.
On all clutch bikes u are supposed to use friction zone and rear brake to create stage with counter weight to have Maximus control. Doesn’t matter how heavy a bike is if you use all three combined the bike will stay upright.
@@miroslavmilan by upright I meant by not dropping the bike on the road. Upright meaning staying on the bike with it moving slow and no feet on the road. My man 🤦♂️
There's a drill that I find useful for developing the tolerance for the feeling that the bike is going to fall: You drive in a straight line relatively fast... you slow down until you come to a complete stop... now, without putting your foot down, you pause for one or two seconds.... and from that exact point you do a full u-turn.... Then you do the same in the other direction. The thing I like about this drill is that it helps you synchronize and tune the timing between the point when you feel the bike is about to fall and when you should start releasing power.
Most of us don't want to hear it, but what he said is true. If you want to get good, accept that the bike will be dropped as you try to learn increasingly advanced skills. Obviously this is difficult to accept if you own one bike and it's a nice bike and you've put some money into it 😅
Bought a cheap Chinese 250cc to learn on dropped it twice already scratched fairings and broke the tip of the brake handle off lol. Makes it easier to grab with 2 fingers now.
I went out today and practiced this feeling. Scary but so enlightening to know I have the ability to counter balance and use the friction zone to not fall. Did a few exercises from the App too. So helpful! Thanks Greg!
Great video, thanks! I'm lacking confidence at low speed, just as you say, I'm scared I'll drop it, but never thought at this aspect, to get used to the feeling of bike falling over. Must practice more!! Thanks again!
Thanks Greg! Absolute class! Would love to see you practice this on a scooter. I’m a scooter rider and found it super difficult to manage the throttle at first. Great video ☺️👍🏼
Taking my training course in Japan for a license. Literally in my 3rd lesson (nearly completed the course) we did figure 8s and Sharlom... 3 lessons prior i never even sat on a bike lol. It took me a while to have the confidence to lean the bike xD
The swedish riding test has these same slow speed turns, but you are only allowed to keep the bike at 5 Kph. As in super slow walking speed and super tight turning arcs.
This is easier on a scooter by modulation of the rear brake and throttle. No manual clutch on a scooter, but you primarily squeeze the rear brake to control your speed and direction more so than the throttle. I do similar with pointy end of the cone or within the lane obstacles by lightly modulating rear brake, which responds smoother and with less variation than the time it takes to reduce or roll off throttle on a carbureted 4-stroke 50cc monster with 2.2 ponies and 175 pounds wet. I made an entry about this on the ChampU forum about rear brake and scooters.
I recently signed up for an unlimited category license motorbike course, the instructor put a 600cc Hornet front of me and told me to practice the cone slalom etc... I guess he assumed that whoever sign up for a license course like this at least has some experience, but I've never ridden any bike previously, so I asked the instructor, "okay, but which lever is the clutch, and how do I operate the rear brake?" and the dude was like o.O xD but after 10 hours of practicing I can now almost do the final exam in closed area training and go for the next step: driving in the city (with the instructor following me in a car). So its never hopeless! Don't give up!
Getting a MT07 soon too. Used to ride Motocross a couple of years ago and found your videos very helpful to get into street riding! just one thing... one lesson I learned the hard way: if you get your inside foot off the peg make it a habit to keep the knee bent to be able to absorb impacts or to avoid catching on something on the ground (probably not as likely on a nice and flat roath thought). Got my inside foot caught somehow in a rut on a MX track once while leaning it over at a very controlled pace... bent the knee the wrong way and tore my ACL. The kind of stuff you really only do once....
I love this video, another thing that I see in people riding slow is that they are scared to carry any speed while doing these maneuvers and that is essential, the speed allows the grip to exist and you become more stable
I’ve just been out for a short blast on my XJR1300 and finished off with 20 minutes of fannying around in a car park doing figure of eights and stuff. Always room for improvement👍👍👍
I’ve got an electric live wire one, and I appreciate the comment at the end for us 1% rs lol I have been practicing for like 10 minutes everyday after work cause the parking lot is empty. Your drills help a lot! I’m still afraid of dropping though
I noticed that when trying to get comfortable with the sensation, if I practiced with a visual cue like that red curb behind you, in the shape of a circle or narrow end of an island, I could then move off it and tighten the circle with no “help”. I don’t know why but it just helped out and I don’t need it anymore.
1:18 This exact method, can be used on a car (that is obviously a stick shift) to take off without needing to apply gas. So many people I see that "think" they can drive a clutch, actually have no idea. You see if pretty often in the used car market. "200k miles, original clutch" and people swear no way its original! Then take that little honda out and blow the cutch apart on the first take off. I taught my wife to drive stick in a little 94 Acura Integra hatch, aftermarket grabby clutch (way to much for the otherwise stock drivetrain) Just like this, Put her on a hill, pulled the ebrake, swapped her seats, and told her feel the clutch, dont touch the gas at all. Dont worry if it chugs and stalls out, FEEL that clutch, 15 mins later she was taking off anywhere, on a hill included, with no hassle. I know this has nothing really to do with the exercise here (other then feeling that clutch friction point) but It is a nice technique for learning.
When I first got on two wheels, it was an old Suzuki Burgman 400, and I started practicing low speed, tight turns. I constantly felt like I was falling, but I wasn't. The sensation is so odd and completely unnatural. I kept making the mistake of not looking where I wanted to go well, and not counter balancing well. But after only a few weeks of owning it I was able to make some circles. I really badly don't want to drop the bike though, and maybe that's what's holding me back from really improving
Ha! I've got an old, heavy bike ('93 Suzuki GSX1100G). 580lbs dry and top-heavy. I'm working on my slow speed skills, but I don't think I'll ever try that stuff. Entertaining, though. Thanks for sharing.
As long as there is power to the rear wheel the bike won't fall, I practice just leaving it in 1st or 2nd keeping at idle rpm speed and practice the turns. Of course slipping the clutch works too.
YOU DA MAN!! I love all your vids and have learned so very much from them. Won’t be trying that last trick in this lifetime though! (70yo) My knees no longer bend like that! The more important anatomy still works just fine .😊
Another fantastic video brother 👍😝 I watch your videos & then can't wait to hit the car park & practice what ive just watched , I cant stop at 20min or 40min mark of practice , im there in car park until dusk , then again next day or on weekends 👍🕺🇭🇲🍹
My biggest issue with slow maneuvers was never the fear of falling over, I was okay with that.. But that damn friction zone is a killer to me. I would either let out the clutch too much and stall or not enough and screw the maneuver. My instructor (yesterday) had me practice for about 45 minutes of the friction zone, and it solved my problems completely. No issues with head movement, or coordination. Simply friction zone. A simple yet difficult thing to master. Another thing with that was leaning the bike and keeping your torso upright. Again, no issues with it, but I had a hard time learning it in the beginning because I rode racing style bicycles and it was just instilled in my head to always lean with the bike. Though two totally different platforms, I did find it easier to compare things of the two.
well you still lean with your motorcycle, you just do it at higher speeds. counter steering like what we learn here would just toss you off the bike cause of centrifugal force
After 30+ years off a bike, I get the fever again. What do I get? A YZF 600. Got my butt handed to me till I found your Site. After practice and MORE practice I can embarrass some of the youngsters who can do a U turn on a "sport bike". Thanks so much. SHUT UP AND PRACTISE is now my moto.
I work as a delivery driver on a scooter, and there have been multiple times when I went to full lock and I've had to steer back because the scooter didn't have enough power to quickly gain that extra speed for me not to fall over.
I ride a 1250 gsa, went on a training course, thought I could ride my bike, and had good control, only to find out I am terrible at low speed. For exactly the reason you say here, so am gonna find a parking lot and train them circles.
Funny you mention your heart rate because I die these drills in the winter before riding. A few minutes of slow speed drills like this and you’ll be all nice and toasty like you just did a workout
Another way I can think to help people get the feel without risking dumping their pretty motorcycle, Pedal / Push bikes, depending where you are what they are called but a typical children's style bike. I prefer a BMX freestyle type but to each their own, even a nice high end Schwinn multi geared mountain bike will work. The sensation is very similar on a bike vs motorcycle, Yes the motorcycle obviously weighs much more, But you can still practice some of the same techniques. Talking about leaning the bike over and such, obviously you cant "let out n the clutch / give it some throttle" to stand it up, but you can still feel how you can lean over and not fall off. You can also feel how you can turn Faster / Tighter and while more stable, if you lean over a bit rather then turning the handle bars. You can also learn that if you turn your handle bars too much while leaning in a corner, how easy it is to low side your motorcycle. All while not banging up said expensive, shiny nice motorcycle ;)
If your bike has no clutch, control the speed with the rear brake. Slow speed maneuvers work well with the rear brake specially on scooters and even cvt gearboxes.
It's funny you say that... it reminds me of when I was learning to skateboard on ramps.. I'm 46 now and still do.. the ONLY way you could do tricks was to eliminate the fear of falling. Its the same thing with motorcycles! You have to eliminate that fear of falling a tipping and just trust your abilities and physics.
Not a huge amount of complexity to learning intermediate biking. I subscribed because you drill the basics into peoples heads, therefore mine as well. I look forward to you reminding me to get out and practice, practice, practice! Thanks for the videos bro! You are indeed a Pro.
I'm so glad MJ posts these tutorials. I used to drive a Suzuki 250 many years ago. I recently purchased a Zero SR and fell back in love with riding. The lack of clutch requires more focus on the throttle only aspect. It's easier to ride but having a clutch does allow for fractional adjustments at a hight resolution.
In a lot of your videos you are riding a BMW adventure bike, do you ride off road? Would you consider off road guides as well? Thanks for all the videos that you have done, they are a huge help!
Just exactly the advice I'm looking for. F Comfortable at higher speed but totally freaking out almost all the time stopping at red lights. Thanks for the vdo.
When its your first bike there is no doupt that you will fall several times and thats when you learn from your errors and get better when it comes to drive at low speed or do a u turn in a tiny street
I wish you uploaded this a few years ago my nephew had little experience but lots of cash and bought an old zzr 1100 I done this on the bike to show him slow control,he dropped it three times and swapped it for a bmw car two weeks later 😆
Probably best decision he ever made. A zzr1100 is a lot of power to deal with starting out. I'm glad I started on a 250 where the bike is lighter and the power a lot more manageable. It didn't cost me a lot of money either so dropping it never hurt me too much financially. Maybe buy a mirror or a brake lever. I'd recommend people starting out riding start on something small and cheap. Once you've dropped it a few times you'll have more respect for the weight and power of bigger bikes and won't want to repeat the experience.
I've been working on my low-speed and thank you for some of the advice it was helpful. I don't think, in my opinion, it's a good idea to show people to remove your foot from the pegs when you're doing those moves because if you touch that foot down you can hurt yourself or definitely fall You're more of an expert and all of us rookies will probably break our foot. Take care. Daniel
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Pedro Acosta at 14 years old sliding his bike on his knee and sliding the rear, in a car park ruclips.net/video/vXydA5rsLDM/видео.html
Would like special care parks like this for practice.
what motorcycle are you riding in this vid
The PROFESSOR! Yes Sir! 👌🏽👍🏽💯
@@doricy. He is riding a 2021-2022 Yamaha MT 07
This is a thing you must master before getting your license in Sweden , nice to see you showing it, cause this is way more harder than riding with speed
I like this exercise: From standstill, put the feet on the pegs. The bike starts to fall over because I'm standing still. Then, instead of putting a foot down, use throttle+clutch and see the bike raise itself up again.
The nice thing about this exercise is that you can repeat this, and each time, let the bike "fall" a little bit further before taking off. This also helps to build confidence that if it "falls" you don't need a foot to stop it from falling, it builds confidence that driving the wheel will lift the bike up.
Also, it's just a great feeling to have the bike magically raise itself up with just some clutch/throttle.
Excellent! Yes, this exercise is called "Trust and believe" and is promoted on the Robert Simmons channel paying it forward. He is a retired motor officer like Jerry Pallidino and has great exercises for clutch control. That exercise is one of the first ones that I show people when they come practice with me.
@@echevarriawilson lol i was just about to say, "that's trust and believe!"
@@stephgoes4aride Lol, I love it that so many people are watching and practicing thier skills. It makes us all more confident and safer riders. Keep practicing!
Thanks will try
A similar thing works well for teaching people to drive a stick shift car. Most people teach a person to add a bit of gas when letting out on the clutch, and that causes excessive lurching and makes the person even more nervous. You can use this same "friction finding" technique to help people learn a cars clutch just as easy. Put them either on a hill (i prefer this) or on flat ground, and tell them take off without using the gas. Just slowly let out on the clutch, and you'll FEEL that engagement, once it starts to move, push in on the clutch again, then repeat. Eventually they are moving a couple inches at a time without adding any gas. Once they have that down, the rest comes naturally. Just getting them to understand that friction point is crucial.
I am a 51 year old female and have recently started learning to ride. I have been watching your videos weekly and have learnt SO MUCH !!!! I took a practice course for learner riders who are about to go for their provisional license, and even though I literally only just got my learner's permit and was not interested in getting my license just yet (I simply thought it would be good experience for me to do any courses on offer), as it turned out, I did WAY better than all the young guys who had been on their learners for a year! No doubt they have probably spent all their time buzzing around on the streets but have paid little to no attention to improving their slow speed manoeuvring skills. I was the only one in the course who didn't knock over any cones or need to keep putting my feet down to stop the bike from falling over! The whole "friction zone" concept is permanently embedded in my brain now. The guys on the course were so impressed with me. :) So thank you for all your wonderful, informative instructional videos.
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I have a lot of confidence and control of my bike thanks to MotoJitsu practice. I'm slowly applying my skills on the streets and it's awesome. Today feels like a good day to practice from the beginning and continue to improve the basics.
It's because of guys like you that I was able to skip years of trying to figure it out myself with no help. To be able to pay attention to your videos and put it to the streets. I practice this drill quite a bit because not only is it good at low speeds but it is really good for 90 degree turns.
Thanks! I really appreciate all your tips especially since this is the thing that still scares me the most.
You described controlling the clutch so much better than they did in my beginner course. I got told I have to rebook to take day 1 again so hopefully I can progress to day 2 and the assessment day of the course to get my Ls.
Im hoping this time I can get through day 1 using your advice.
As long as you have power to the rear wheel it win never fall.Even from a stop,the bike starts to far,add a little throttle and let out the clutch easy.The bike will straighten like magic.
easy to say)
His videos are actually relevant to real first time older riders on big bikes. Yes the weight is freaking me since I’m afraid of dropping this expensive heavy bike (11k r7) and hurting myself
Vintage MotoJitsu! I truly appreciate the knowledge being passed down. I’m definitely adding this drill the rest of them. Thanks for sharing Greg.
Hey Jitsu, I just subbed your channel. I've been riding for a long time since 1992 and now I'm in my mid 50's and I have a new bike and since I hadn't ridden in a while it's like I forgot these small but important techniques, so thanks, take care, Mike.
When I was taking my 2 day training for a second time my bike also trapped my fingers!! I am glad yours is the same so I can get an example of someone doing it with a similar type of steering.
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As a beginner I find this very interesting and helpful. I will definitely try this for myself. I love the fact that the explanation is densed down to this essential piece of information. We have to test our own limits to know our limits. Makes sense to me.
Millimeters
That’s what I say to myself when I’m not as smooth as I want to be when doing Motojitsu drills.
I've found on my DCT bike I have to add some rear brake, allowing me to keep power up, pushing against the drag of the brake. Instead of controlling lean with the clutch, I control it with the brake. As a result, I can do all your exercises without undue stress. Same principle, just different controls.
I too have the dct. I must admit, I find slow speed drills more challenging on dct but slowly but surely improvements are happening. Thanks for sharing. It is encouraging.
Greg did a demonstration with that bike in one of his videos.
ruclips.net/video/3gy9ftbRk1k/видео.html
A little rear brake and throttle on tight slow speed hairpins helps you not drop the bike at the apex. Same theory different scenario!
@@DAVJULART I trained doing walking pace manoeuvres. That rear brake really helps you stay upright, a little bit clutch slip too
@@echevarriawilson Ah, missed that one. Thanks.
Top notch classes. Thanks Greg. Poland keeps practicing too....
Been riding for 20yrs ,today I did 30 min of white belt practice and don't have to duck walk bike at gas station anymore ,as soon as I got back on the street I felt like it was easier to ride, excited to get to black belt,
As a new rider I was definitely scared of dropping an R6 i shouldn't have owned out the gate because it was so pretty I didn't want to hurt it. You're definitely right, you gotta be comfortable with the bike falling over and that all boild down to your motto of practice, practice, practice. Just like the military where all we do is build muscle memory to near perfection on weapon systems and other various systems.
On all clutch bikes u are supposed to use friction zone and rear brake to create stage with counter weight to have Maximus control. Doesn’t matter how heavy a bike is if you use all three combined the bike will stay upright.
The bike being “upright”is the opposite of what we’re trying to achieve in this exercise 🤭
@@miroslavmilan by upright I meant by not dropping the bike on the road. Upright meaning staying on the bike with it moving slow and no feet on the road. My man 🤦♂️
There's a drill that I find useful for developing the tolerance for the feeling that the bike is going to fall:
You drive in a straight line relatively fast... you slow down until you come to a complete stop... now, without putting your foot down, you pause for one or two seconds.... and from that exact point you do a full u-turn....
Then you do the same in the other direction.
The thing I like about this drill is that it helps you synchronize and tune the timing between the point when you feel the bike is about to fall and when you should start releasing power.
The key is to do the u-turn from that exact stopping point and without moving forward from there.
Most of us don't want to hear it, but what he said is true. If you want to get good, accept that the bike will be dropped as you try to learn increasingly advanced skills. Obviously this is difficult to accept if you own one bike and it's a nice bike and you've put some money into it 😅
yes bro thats why its worth getting a cage, handlebar protections. even simplest crash pads are a good training investment
Bought a cheap Chinese 250cc to learn on dropped it twice already scratched fairings and broke the tip of the brake handle off lol. Makes it easier to grab with 2 fingers now.
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I went out today and practiced this feeling. Scary but so enlightening to know I have the ability to counter balance and use the friction zone to not fall. Did a few exercises from the App too. So helpful! Thanks Greg!
Great video, thanks! I'm lacking confidence at low speed, just as you say, I'm scared I'll drop it, but never thought at this aspect, to get used to the feeling of bike falling over.
Must practice more!! Thanks again!
That actually makes a hell of a lot of sense. Can't wait to try it, thank you!
get after it!
Thanks Greg! Absolute class! Would love to see you practice this on a scooter. I’m a scooter rider and found it super difficult to manage the throttle at first. Great video ☺️👍🏼
Taking my training course in Japan for a license. Literally in my 3rd lesson (nearly completed the course) we did figure 8s and Sharlom... 3 lessons prior i never even sat on a bike lol. It took me a while to have the confidence to lean the bike xD
My dude's a full fledged stunt rider. 🤣😂 I hope I can get this confidence. I'll have to try this. Great tip. Thank you as always.
The swedish riding test has these same slow speed turns, but you are only allowed to keep the bike at 5 Kph. As in super slow walking speed and super tight turning arcs.
I've ridden for year but my first naked/sport bike & it's a whole new ride!
This is great info. Thanks!
Good tips!
I’m so glad I found your channel. Watched so many really informative and helpful videos. Thank you so much
RUclips needs a "love" button just for your ideas and content Greg. Amazing
4:35 I did this on my CBT and the instructor wasn't happy😔
😂😂😂
Thanx once again for the lessons!
Cheers from the Netherlands!
This is easier on a scooter by modulation of the rear brake and throttle. No manual clutch on a scooter, but you primarily squeeze the rear brake to control your speed and direction more so than the throttle. I do similar with pointy end of the cone or within the lane obstacles by lightly modulating rear brake, which responds smoother and with less variation than the time it takes to reduce or roll off throttle on a carbureted 4-stroke 50cc monster with 2.2 ponies and 175 pounds wet. I made an entry about this on the ChampU forum about rear brake and scooters.
Exactly...
No more to say
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It's all about training sensitivity towards your bike, motion, force, angles, etc
Keep clutch steady. Use rear brake instead. Upside is that you can add throttle without causing an increase in speed.
I recently signed up for an unlimited category license motorbike course, the instructor put a 600cc Hornet front of me and told me to practice the cone slalom etc... I guess he assumed that whoever sign up for a license course like this at least has some experience, but I've never ridden any bike previously, so I asked the instructor, "okay, but which lever is the clutch, and how do I operate the rear brake?" and the dude was like o.O xD but after 10 hours of practicing I can now almost do the final exam in closed area training and go for the next step: driving in the city (with the instructor following me in a car). So its never hopeless! Don't give up!
Getting a MT07 soon too. Used to ride Motocross a couple of years ago and found your videos very helpful to get into street riding! just one thing... one lesson I learned the hard way: if you get your inside foot off the peg make it a habit to keep the knee bent to be able to absorb impacts or to avoid catching on something on the ground (probably not as likely on a nice and flat roath thought). Got my inside foot caught somehow in a rut on a MX track once while leaning it over at a very controlled pace... bent the knee the wrong way and tore my ACL. The kind of stuff you really only do once....
I love this video, another thing that I see in people riding slow is that they are scared to carry any speed while doing these maneuvers and that is essential, the speed allows the grip to exist and you become more stable
Good to see you having fun with it. Can't hide that grin.
Every topics you brought in to tutors, technic, advise, skills and knowleged is much appreciated towards a skillful safe riding. Thanks Bro
I’ve just been out for a short blast on my XJR1300 and finished off with 20 minutes of fannying around in a car park doing figure of eights and stuff.
Always room for improvement👍👍👍
Keep at it!
Excellent demonstration on the mastery of clutch control! Keep up the great content and I'll keep practicing!
Really enjoyed this one, perfect while I sit beside my bikes watching it rain here in Sydney. Much love to all the subs of fast Eddie from down under.
Phenomenal demonstration of lean and clutch control.
Before anyone attempts at face their fear of dropping the bike, practice SMOOTH clutch control
I fell over three times during my first training session yesterday. I Didn't feel like I got used to it, just made my confidence drop down really low
I’ve got an electric live wire one, and I appreciate the comment at the end for us 1% rs lol I have been practicing for like 10 minutes everyday after work cause the parking lot is empty. Your drills help a lot! I’m still afraid of dropping though
I noticed that when trying to get comfortable with the sensation, if I practiced with a visual cue like that red curb behind you, in the shape of a circle or narrow end of an island, I could then move off it and tighten the circle with no “help”. I don’t know why but it just helped out and I don’t need it anymore.
1:18 This exact method, can be used on a car (that is obviously a stick shift) to take off without needing to apply gas. So many people I see that "think" they can drive a clutch, actually have no idea. You see if pretty often in the used car market. "200k miles, original clutch" and people swear no way its original! Then take that little honda out and blow the cutch apart on the first take off. I taught my wife to drive stick in a little 94 Acura Integra hatch, aftermarket grabby clutch (way to much for the otherwise stock drivetrain) Just like this, Put her on a hill, pulled the ebrake, swapped her seats, and told her feel the clutch, dont touch the gas at all. Dont worry if it chugs and stalls out, FEEL that clutch, 15 mins later she was taking off anywhere, on a hill included, with no hassle. I know this has nothing really to do with the exercise here (other then feeling that clutch friction point) but It is a nice technique for learning.
When I first got on two wheels, it was an old Suzuki Burgman 400, and I started practicing low speed, tight turns. I constantly felt like I was falling, but I wasn't. The sensation is so odd and completely unnatural. I kept making the mistake of not looking where I wanted to go well, and not counter balancing well. But after only a few weeks of owning it I was able to make some circles. I really badly don't want to drop the bike though, and maybe that's what's holding me back from really improving
Totaly agree. If that's what it takes then fall over. Just do it till you get your clutch control right.
Thanks a lot for your videos. I am getting encouraged to get my first bike and achieve an old dream. Congratulations for your work
Nice, haven't seen turn-signals-shaped crashbars before :)
Ha! I've got an old, heavy bike ('93 Suzuki GSX1100G). 580lbs dry and top-heavy. I'm working on my slow speed skills, but I don't think I'll ever try that stuff. Entertaining, though. Thanks for sharing.
As long as there is power to the rear wheel the bike won't fall, I practice just leaving it in 1st or 2nd keeping at idle rpm speed and practice the turns. Of course slipping the clutch works too.
There is a time for both, and times where you need both at the same time.
Holys**t I have was watching low speed videos learning some techniques but your philosophy really clicked and I’m night and day.
YOU DA MAN!!
I love all your vids and have learned so very much from them. Won’t be trying that last trick in this lifetime though! (70yo) My knees no longer bend like that! The more important anatomy still works just fine .😊
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Another fantastic video brother 👍😝 I watch your videos & then can't wait to hit the car park & practice what ive just watched , I cant stop at 20min or 40min mark of practice , im there in car park until dusk , then again next day or on weekends 👍🕺🇭🇲🍹
My biggest issue with slow maneuvers was never the fear of falling over, I was okay with that.. But that damn friction zone is a killer to me. I would either let out the clutch too much and stall or not enough and screw the maneuver. My instructor (yesterday) had me practice for about 45 minutes of the friction zone, and it solved my problems completely. No issues with head movement, or coordination. Simply friction zone. A simple yet difficult thing to master. Another thing with that was leaning the bike and keeping your torso upright. Again, no issues with it, but I had a hard time learning it in the beginning because I rode racing style bicycles and it was just instilled in my head to always lean with the bike. Though two totally different platforms, I did find it easier to compare things of the two.
well you still lean with your motorcycle, you just do it at higher speeds. counter steering like what we learn here would just toss you off the bike cause of centrifugal force
After 30+ years off a bike, I get the fever again. What do I get? A YZF 600. Got my butt handed to me till I found your Site. After practice and MORE practice I can embarrass some of the youngsters who can do a U turn on a "sport bike". Thanks so much. SHUT UP AND PRACTISE is now my moto.
Caught myself looking at the curb!!
Great video. Love how u talk about the friction zone!
I work as a delivery driver on a scooter, and there have been multiple times when I went to full lock and I've had to steer back because the scooter didn't have enough power to quickly gain that extra speed for me not to fall over.
Oh man! What beautiful California scenery!
I ride a 1250 gsa, went on a training course, thought I could ride my bike, and had good control, only to find out I am terrible at low speed. For exactly the reason you say here, so am gonna find a parking lot and train them circles.
thanks a lot! I keep learning a lot from your videos :) btw I LOVE that jacket! what model is that?
This video helps some. I don't think I would've ever thought to counterlean that much.
I began "dipping" during U Turn practice, to learn mid turn feelings of control, dancing with my emotions
Were you still in the friction zone while going in circles? If not how far was the clutch out? Thanks
Funny you mention your heart rate because I die these drills in the winter before riding. A few minutes of slow speed drills like this and you’ll be all nice and toasty like you just did a workout
Another way I can think to help people get the feel without risking dumping their pretty motorcycle, Pedal / Push bikes, depending where you are what they are called but a typical children's style bike. I prefer a BMX freestyle type but to each their own, even a nice high end Schwinn multi geared mountain bike will work. The sensation is very similar on a bike vs motorcycle, Yes the motorcycle obviously weighs much more, But you can still practice some of the same techniques. Talking about leaning the bike over and such, obviously you cant "let out n the clutch / give it some throttle" to stand it up, but you can still feel how you can lean over and not fall off. You can also feel how you can turn Faster / Tighter and while more stable, if you lean over a bit rather then turning the handle bars. You can also learn that if you turn your handle bars too much while leaning in a corner, how easy it is to low side your motorcycle. All while not banging up said expensive, shiny nice motorcycle ;)
This is like those exercises they ask you to do to get your learners license.... that you will NEVER use in the real world.
If your bike has no clutch, control the speed with the rear brake. Slow speed maneuvers work well with the rear brake specially on scooters and even cvt gearboxes.
It's funny you say that... it reminds me of when I was learning to skateboard on ramps.. I'm 46 now and still do.. the ONLY way you could do tricks was to eliminate the fear of falling. Its the same thing with motorcycles! You have to eliminate that fear of falling a tipping and just trust your abilities and physics.
Thanks for sharing this.
Good info. Thx
when i do the circels i cant do more than 3 then i get dizzy hahah and have to go the other way again , i love doing the parkinglot things :)
Hi FastEddie. Can you please let me know where you purchased the BMW Jacket? Thank you in advance
Magic on the motor. Good for loosing blocking fear.
Not a huge amount of complexity to learning intermediate biking. I subscribed because you drill the basics into peoples heads, therefore mine as well. I look forward to you reminding me to get out and practice, practice, practice! Thanks for the videos bro! You are indeed a Pro.
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Not only manouvering your foot to the outside gets it outta the way but it also acts to shift weight .
I'm so glad MJ posts these tutorials. I used to drive a Suzuki 250 many years ago. I recently purchased a Zero SR and fell back in love with riding. The lack of clutch requires more focus on the throttle only aspect. It's easier to ride but having a clutch does allow for fractional adjustments at a hight resolution.
Yeah! Love it! Gotta do it.
I’m getting dizzy watching this,camera man please stay still 😂
🙌🙌Feels like figure skating on bike wheels instead of skates.
I learn a lot from your videos.
Thanks once again ! 🙂
In a lot of your videos you are riding a BMW adventure bike, do you ride off road? Would you consider off road guides as well? Thanks for all the videos that you have done, they are a huge help!
I’m taking my motorcycle license in February and I’m practicing on a 50cc scooter, it’s all I have but at least I get to practice.
75 yo. Best video ever. Liking the fall over feeling more and more. Semper fi.
Oh man! My heart rate went so high by just watching you Bro! Outstanding Yo' Da Man!
"So what made you want to become a stunt rider?"
"I didn't, I was just practicing low speed confidence & it escalated!"
Just exactly the advice I'm looking for. F
Comfortable at higher speed but totally freaking out almost all the time stopping at red lights.
Thanks for the vdo.
Glad to help!
Getting a second bike which I do not rely on as a daily commuter would aid greatly in my willingness to push this
Man my harley jolts me all over the place at low speeds. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. You're bike looks so smooth
Are you using your rear brake a little for stability when you are doing your low speed maneuvers?!
When its your first bike there is no doupt that you will fall several times and thats when you learn from your errors and get better when it comes to drive at low speed or do a u turn in a tiny street
I wish you uploaded this a few years ago my nephew had little experience but lots of cash and bought an old zzr 1100 I done this on the bike to show him slow control,he dropped it three times and swapped it for a bmw car two weeks later 😆
Probably best decision he ever made. A zzr1100 is a lot of power to deal with starting out. I'm glad I started on a 250 where the bike is lighter and the power a lot more manageable. It didn't cost me a lot of money either so dropping it never hurt me too much financially. Maybe buy a mirror or a brake lever. I'd recommend people starting out riding start on something small and cheap. Once you've dropped it a few times you'll have more respect for the weight and power of bigger bikes and won't want to repeat the experience.
You’re really good!💯
Thank you sir .very informative video..
I've been working on my low-speed and thank you for some of the advice it was helpful. I don't think, in my opinion, it's a good idea to show people to remove your foot from the pegs when you're doing those moves because if you touch that foot down you can hurt yourself or definitely fall You're more of an expert and all of us rookies will probably break our foot. Take care. Daniel
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