The best part about Chinese cars is their effect on other manufacturers. They force other EV companies to be more competitive in terms of quality and price. Without competition, prices will stay much too high.
Great review, of the Nio ET5 Elliot. It's worth mentioning that Nio's self driving system is reliant on Lidar, Radar, Ultrasonics & Cameras for it's HD Maps based self driving system. It's not simply an optional extra, it wouldn't work without LIDAR unfortunately...
I'm only 50 seconds in to the video but please don't tell me the price in China and then convert it to £'s because we will never get it for that price.
LOL THEY OBVIOUSLY CONVERTED THE PRICES JUST TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH GUIDE LOL... OBVIOUSLY ITS NOT GOING TO BE THE EXACT PRICE IN YOUR COUNTRY. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT YOU JOKER
Lidar is an acronym of "light detection and ranging" or "laser imaging, detection, and ranging". It is a method for determining ranges by targeting an object or a surface with a laser and measuring the time for the reflected light to return to the receiver - from Wikipedia. So, yeah, it shoots lasers out of the roof.
@@krugerdave at least it doesn’t have pointless features like.... putting another windscreen on the roof That’s not expensive, heavy, a nightmare to clean or replace for no good reason other then trying to look expensive Cos that’s what people want in a more budget car 🤦♂️
What's really hard to understand is that both the ET5 and the BYD Seal look significantly better than the Tesla Model 3, even though they are all similarly styled. What is Tesla doing? Can't they hire someone who knows how to design beautiful cars? One only has to look at a Tesla model X to realise just how clueless their design department is. I remember when Hyundai couldn't style a car to save their lives, then they hired Luc Donckerwolke and went from some of the ugliest cars on the road to some of the best. I think NIO and BYD are going to do very well. I'd pay more for a Seal or an ET5 than I would a Tesla Model 3. Just make them available in North America. Good review.
7:02 it's hilarious that you say "we don't need that!" when talking about shooting lasers out of the roof...when this car does exactly that with the LIDAR unit...lol
Yep, mentioned it multiple times which really annoyed me when, as you say, that's exactly what it DOES do. Aside from kitchens in Rivians I couldn't really think of any "unnecessary features" of other EVs either. Seemed like making a point out of nothing.
Tesla model 3 in china starts at 229,900 batteries included, a fair bit cheaper than the ET5 So the video needs a new, less clickbaity, title But a great addition to the EV offering nonetheless
If they can manage that then they will have some decent range even with towing a caravan. But that battery will be like half the weight of the whole car...
I think its a solid state tech. kWH is just a measure of energy, not volume. The new tech must be able to fit more kwh of energy into the same sized (or smaller?) cells/pack
@@myvideos1125 yeah it is solid state... they announced it back in 2021. It's still not available of course and nobody knows how long it will take till it's market ready. Looks like Nio pulled one out of the old Elon Musk playbook...
It has more range, you can upgrade the battery more easily, driving assist is more future proof with lidar, quality control is better and they don't have an insane CEO being more bothered with twitter than inproving the QC of teslas.
@@theolich4384 Not fast enough to be up against M3 P. M3 LR also has 2 motors, and with a acceleration boost, it's still a lot cheaper and also faster than a ET5.
My experience, testing the bigger brother of this, the ET7, was that it was very much like a Tesla Mpdel S, but better in every imaginable way; better quality feel, better use of space, better design (especially on the interior) and much, much more fun to drive (when in sport mode). I expect this to be in the same way, in regards to the Tesla Model 3, which they obviously pin-poited as the main compettror. Looks similar, but better, it's a sedan (when it could been a hatchback) and it even got the same kind of interiot door-poppers as the Model 3. I love the interor - one of the best looking on the market and the exterior is also very good looking. Will be interesting to compare with both the ET7 and the Model 3, if/when I get a chance to test drive it.
It's funny how Elliot completely avoids the fact that this is simply a less good copy of a Tesla Model 3 at a much higher cost when you factor in the battery rental. They literally took a Model 3 and copied it note for note. And he praises them for all the things Tesla brought to market in 2017 with the Model 3 that Nio shamelessly copies.
While no expert, the Model 3 didn't have a hatchback as I recall. Finish quality in a Tesla is also part of what I hear back from the handful of Tesla owners I know.
@@connclissmann6514 This car isn't a hatchback.... And yeah, when ya got nothing else, talk about panel gaps (which is a totally overblown nonsense argument since I can find them on ALL makes of cars).
@@stefanospap6288 steping on the brake pedal is like steping on a piece of sponge. It doesn't give proper feedback. But still even better than the brake of Tesla which feels like stepping on a stone.
Elliot's reviews are always obnoxious when he spends time telling people what they don't need in a car. I like 1,000 watts in my sound system! Say YOU don't need it Elliot.
I've watched for many years; I'm at pains to say that I think the script for this video could have been tighter. As a friendly critique, there's a lot of repetition which if focused would have been a narrative build up to the final conclusion. But the conclusion was instead repeated throughout the video and I think it created a bit of a headwind. Big fan of fully charged and Elliot's reviews. Please keep up the good work.
I agree, I have this with more videos on this channel lately. Quite a bit of repetition and praise for certain brands and ideas, but less focus on quality feeling, driving and actual range.
The model 3 had a price cut 2 weeks ago in China and is now 229,900 yuan. Which is significantly cheaper than this car! Obviously the model 3 has a smaller battery but is more efficient and has no monthly fees for battery.
@@rs-dp6pr the battery included Nio was already 30+% more expensive than a model 3! The only cheap Nio was the battery rental one. But this is now 15% more expensive than a base model 3 in China.
Love the ET5! Sadly it's priced way above the Model 3 here in Sweden, around €15,000 more to be exact (SR M3, no battery lease on Nio). That's in no way justified for me, even if I would 99% go for the Nio ET5. Even renting/leasing the battery is more expensive than Model 3, starting price is then €3500 or so more which is fine by itself but then I would need to pay €180/month for the battery... Sorry Nio, you need to reevaluate your price model here in Sweden.
@@thanksforyouruploads You don't have to be broke to consider saving €15,000 on 2 comparable cars. You just have to value your money, and not spending too much of it on a depreciating asset.
@@HTeo-og1lg import tax (~28%) since it's a new car, added registration and higher insurance due to it being an import. if it's older than 6 months and done over 10,000 km I can import it through any EU country without taxes.
@@onlineo2263 thank you for understanding the value of money 👍🏻 we are after all in a financial crisis atm, I won't be buying a car for the next 2-3 years or so.
6:28 umm, you can't compare pricing against other makers when you leave the monthly battery rental cost out of your Nio pricing. You MUST add this back in to the total cost of ownership to make any kind of fair comparison. Over five years of ownership that battery will add $10,800 to the cost of ownership. And you'll pay that every 5 years FOREVER.
you can always buy it without the battery swap, and don’t forget to discount the free swaps per month, which will save you the cost of charging / fuelling, access to the nio houses, nio service included, etc.
You will also have a battery in perfect condition with the latest technology forever. You also get two free swaps (at least) that you can save every month that will save you around $10 000 in those five years if we take average german prices at charging stations.
If the 75kWh battery gives you 560km range... Why don't they have a 50kWh option? A battery with a bit over 370km range, should be be perfectly sufficient, even for longer journeys.
CLTC range is known to be generous. Multiply by 0.8 for WLTP and once more for EPA range. Nio cars aren't known to be the most efficient out there, but you have battery swap to boot.
with the diminishing returns on adding more and more battery, it may be you would get more than that, but also i feel we need more 20/30/40kwh batteries, without their own weight to drag around they would be much moree efficent. That doesnt make sense but you probably know what i mean.
There is some inspirational stuff coming out of China, ....but that is where I have to draw the line! The GEOPOLITICAL problems with China prevent ANY confidence in buying these cars! Who knows whether they can "spy" on their occupants, or by disabled at the switch of someone's political finger? As for the "battery swap technology", GREAT! ...but where is that technology or INFRASTRUCTURE outside the PRC? Where are the dealerships and service networks? When I see western governments promoting such companies and technology in Europe and the USA, I'll give them another look! ...because it REALLY DOES look good! But LOOKS are OFTEN deceiving!
Is it just me, or would anyone else want one of these with the Chinese language badges on the back? When they land in Europe they'll have English language badging, which won't be as interesting.
Same range BMW i4 costs 10k less in Germany. Telsa Model 3 with Nio-comparable quality is 20k less. I don't think it is going to sell especially well in Europe.
What a bummer i love this car, but this car is WAY to expensive! It should be cheaper then M3, Tesla pricecut crushes the compatitors on price and performance. This car should be in the 38k - 42k euro range to be attractive (Model 3 is now in the market for 44k euro) on a price point of view. Wonder how the software is on the ET5.
I'm all aboard the EV-hype train and yet nothing about this car or its pricing appealed to me. Battery swapping is not the selling point motor-journalists seem to think it is.
I find it really weird that battery swapping isn't a thing in "the west", given that so many of the "I'll never buy an EV / I drive 5,000 miles every day in my diesel without problems" brigade state battery life/replacement and long range drive requirements as their primary issues with EVs. My first thought was it's a knock-off of the Tesla with arguably nicer styling in places, but the taxi light/LIDAR on the roof, and the fact it'll be WAY more expensive than the Tesla in the UK just makes it a complete non-starter
It's a really great looking car. But what about build quality and rust protection ? Most Chinese cars aren't even hot dip galvanized ! They're like 1970's Italian cars made from bad Russian steel ! The loud nasty music in this episode is hell ANNOYING !
Why do people keep comparing this with a Tesla model 3? 😂 Nio stands for premium and high quality! Tesla on the other hand for garbage and failure. You get what you pay flor, and a car is and always will be a status symbol, I also like my woman prettier than ugly. ET5 all the way 👍
Focussed on practicality.Where is the manual controls for temp and vol.Trying to navigate a screen to change these settings is arguably more dangerous than using your mobile whilst driving.
You haven't done your homework have you? Let me enlighten you. The price you mention is for the model 3 standard. So worse range, rear wheel motor only. It's pretty much substantially worse in every single aspect. Interior, infotainment, tech, performance, reliability, quality. Andddd most important of all is the free swaps/supercharging and God tier service in China that your NIO comes with. Yes. NIO is undercutting tesla big time. You just got to do some digging because it's not the car alone that you got to look into for when it comes to NIO as it is a very service-oriented company. The free swaps alone over a period of 2-3 years can save you enough money to be able to buy a bmw 3 series. NIO is just so much better overall for the consumer than any other EV. Sadly, people aren't educated enough yet to realize it and you appear to be an example of that ;D
yeh really poor. I get that the video was probably filmed a few weeks ago before the China price cuts for tesla but to have the title and tweet about it undercutting is so bad form/use for clicks. People who even know a little about EVs have heard of Tela price cuts, I would have at least checked the claims before posting. I expect better from this channel.
@@stefanospap6288 You are blind let me open your eyes. People are so blind. Model 3 standard range is 540 km vs 550 km (Nedc), so basically no difference. Infotainment, tech, reliability, service is not better because it's basically a new, amateur company that has not proven the reliability and service yet. It takes time. Tesla is the leading brand in infotainment software tech, if you disagree then you are blind. Yes it is faster 0-60 6 sec vs 4 sec but you have to pay extra for your battery swap every month in 5 years it's about $7k and the worst part is you can't buy ET5 outside of china with BaaS (Battery as a service). Outside of china the price is very high and there are not many swapping stations. It's a car only for the china market for and can't compete with tesla. Even With that higher price they also lose money. Lol
Not so impressed... Its a saloon car not a hatch-back. I can't say it looks any better than anything else... With it being so close in price to a Model 3, I would get a Tesla.
How are the Chinese auto manufacturers achieving such high quality new cars so quickly. It took the Japanese and Koreans more than decade each to match the quality of the european cars of their era's. China seems to be romping ahead with EV's in well within a decade. This is fantastic for making EV's more affordable and available, but how are they doing it?
Interesting review. Unfortunately haven't entailed most of its technical specs of the car such as suspension, wheel size, battery type, infotainment system and software etc. I think without that it is very difficult to place this car on the market and compare it or position it above most of the manufacturers...
I agree with you. Too much aesthetics, not enough specs. Aesthetics are subjective, but u can use stats to compare other vechiles in class. Least he mentioned the lack of frunk. So many fully charged reviews dont mention if frunk or not.
At least charging speed is important... I agree, too much rambling and too few specs. Almost sounded like a NIO advertisement, the trunk is really tiny on such a big car and without a frunk to compensate not many families would pick this vehicle.
Is it just me or have motor manufacturers fallen into the same trap as with ICE cars, they all started looking the same. As for this car it doesn't look much different, especially side on, to the BYD Seal or the Ioniq 6. Put a different badge on it and I bet most people wouldn't realise. EV haven't got off the ground and already look like clones of each other.
@@samusaran7317 I dont care much about efficiency!10 or 20% more energyconsumtion is ok The IDBuzz is very practical and the enyak very cheap and made in eastern europa!Whats not to like about that?And if the war is over maybe we can soon buy some cars made in the Ukraine!No need for cars from China!
@@samusaran7317 Toyotas are great to!The aiD buzz is also great for camping or if you dont want to weast money for an apartment!The new Toyota Prius pluginhibrid is just amazing!And in the future Cars from india like Tata will be a sucess!So forget about China,that story comes to a end fast!
Can you guys start another channel and re review some of these cars a few years down the track. Call it fully charged rewind and just let people know how some of these vehicles are going quality wise, battery status, durability etc. just a thought as it would certainly help buyers looking at getting into the used EV market. Thanks.
Pretty sure he deliberately avoided talking/comparing about the model 3 other then it’s price. The cars are basically the same. People will be cross shopping them and not so much the others that he mentioned.
@@danielstefanovic2604 BS!! At 14:05 you can see the leaver for dropping the seat and when he's talking about the trunk he states that the rear seats fold flat 🤷♂️
@@reedjackson8834 and... He gave the wrong numbers for the price of a Tesla in China. The base M3 is 229,900 RMB. 30,000 cheaper than the car without a battery, 100,000 cheaper than the version that comes with a battery.
I think Nio is far too expensive and a company that thinks battery swapping can work -well Elon tried that very bad idea - as Sandy Munro says ‘you never want to have connectors being stressed’ and especially high voltage ones plus others ! Oh it’s just $10800 every 5 years for battery rental !, a reason for the cars worth dropping out of the sky - just imagine the 2nd 5 years Every car beats that !, even ICE costs
The polestar 2 has a 0-60mph time of 4.4, 4.5 seconds.. The NIO is a conservative 4 seconds with a more likely 3.8 seconds with one medium weight driver & not loaded in the back..
Great review, thanks. It'll be a while before battery swapping reaches the smaller island nations off mainland Europe, I imagine. Malta, Cyprus, Ireland, (UK?) will likely never be a priority.
@@shoelessjoe428 Cornwall? Dundee? Enniskillen? It is always tempting to only cover areas of a higher density population, when providing infrastructure. The UK has a relatively low density of population overall so this will remain a challenge.
Nice looking car! But... a couple of things. Like almost all Chinese car companies, with the exception of BYD, none are profitable. And while Nio's battery swapping seems neat, it either is going to make it harder to become profitable, or its owners will be paying a monthly fee in perpetuity. If you have a battery-swap scheme, you have several issues. First, you have to manufacture multiple battery packs for each car- so you have a larger capital expenditure. Second, it makes it hard to develop future battery packs without having to build out either larger battery swap stations, or having different versions of it. Third, it is going to make it hard to sell the car, as not everyone is going to want to rent the battery- and how do you do a trade-in for a new car that is not a Nio, with a rented battery? With battery charging times getting less and less, there is just no future need for battery swap stations, especially for just driving around the city, which most drivers do the vast majority of the time. And it is a whole lot cheaper to build charging stations than battery swap stations, even without including the cost of the extra batteries.
Good analysis . But i think its just an extra feature thats nice to have. I won't be buying a nio just because of it. But it does provides extra flexibilty. You can chose to buy battery outright or rent it for lowering initial buy price. Easier to upgrade to future better batteries. I wouldn't worry about battery swap station being incompatible, because they can be dynamically adjusted based on different model's measurements. But it is really useful ? I don't think so, i think Nio is wasting money. I wish they can focus on making their cars cheaper, but i guess they want to be a premium brand, so they want something like this to differentiate.
The price is not that good. Considering the increase when it comes to the european market, I doubt it's gonna undercut Tesla. Especially since Tesla decreased their prices recently. But the finition is better, that's for sure. I'm not sure that everyone is gonna be into the robot thing, I don't know if the info-tainment system is any good, I don't know the real range or the efficiency. I don't know the recharge speed (important, since, let's face it: battery replacement stations for Nio only are not gonna open everywhere here). The writing in the video says a lot of "nothing". "God like levels of perfection", "comes with ***km of CLTC range", saying that since it's less expensive than the Model 3 when you lease the battery, they are undercutting Tesla. No, you still pay 140€ more per month ! Meh, this channel has a lot of good content and information, but often it spend so much time praising the car that nothing interesting is said.
They said it undercuts the Tesla, but they're wrong. The Tesla is 229,900 RMB, 30,000 less than the battery rental, and 100,000 cheaper than the battery outright car.
Very focused on aesthetics which is always a personal choice. Mechanical specs are much more useful than a sales pitch about how beautiful it is. PS I think its bloody ugly with the warts on the roof and the back end looks like a large letter box slot, but that's just my opinion.
Can’t account for tastes. Tesla is not winning any beauty prizes but at least they’re bland. Here the front looks compressed and horrible and the the color looks like it came out of some orifice.
Thanks Elliot. Looks like a great car, but I’m doubting the whole battery swapping thing. I don’t see it becoming something widespread for a single brand. And on the practical side, getting large grid connections on that scale might be a problem for the next couple of years in some countries.
There are countless benefits to battery swap. Not getting out of your car, fully autonomous, and only pushing a button to swap is just one. In the Winter this a big benefit. NIO has agreements with many petrol companies to build out swap stations at existing gas stations. Charging batteries slowly during off-peak hours is less costly and degrades the batteries less. Swapping a faulty battery with no service call is brilliant. Swap reduces total cost of ownership. Able to upgrade or downgrade battery capacity at every swap. No built-in battery technology obsolescence. I could go on...
battery swap aside, NIO evs are still brilliant EVs, with better fit and finishing than Tesla Also battery swap might not suit your country, but it certainly does in China
It does not. Since Tesla dropped its prices. The model 3 is cheaper than this Nio in every country they are both present (including China, where the model 3 is about 15% cheaper)
It doesn’t gloss over that at all. In fact, the video gives you the exact price being charged right now for that rental. You can choose either option: battery on a £120 p/m lease, or battery with car for £8000 extra. I happen to think that’s a good offer to customers - it gives people the choice between both options.
It guarantees against battery degradation and gives the option to upgrade when the solid state 150kWh comes out, whereas the latest Teslas will become obsolescent. The talking ball bugs me though.
The best part about Chinese cars is their effect on other manufacturers. They force other EV companies to be more competitive in terms of quality and price. Without competition, prices will stay much too high.
Chinese cars become BETTER THAN LEGACY CARS.
It’s already forcing Tesla to drop prices 🙂
@@EmmaNguyen-mg5xq Chinese cars are comical junk, hence they have stayed out of the USA market, as they would be laughed out as a bad joke...
They only cheap to buy in Asia
Or do what USA does, ban Chinese products from being sold in USA to protect USA manufacturers with the USA customers losing out.
This car in black would look fire!
Specially the rear, reminds me of the new 911 turbo s.
Should check out the chrome version. It looks sublime!
Great review, of the Nio ET5 Elliot. It's worth mentioning that Nio's self driving system is reliant on Lidar, Radar, Ultrasonics & Cameras for it's HD Maps based self driving system. It's not simply an optional extra, it wouldn't work without LIDAR unfortunately...
I'm only 50 seconds in to the video but please don't tell me the price in China and then convert it to £'s because we will never get it for that price.
This anchor/host usually does weird stuff with his videos. I usually skip them
@@gormauslander still presents the car in a good way. Just disregard the prices in China of pretty much every video he’s in 😁
LOL THEY OBVIOUSLY CONVERTED THE PRICES JUST TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH GUIDE LOL... OBVIOUSLY ITS NOT GOING TO BE THE EXACT PRICE IN YOUR COUNTRY. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT YOU JOKER
Yeah but since you clearly know that.... What's the issue.
Same with American cars, I feel bad for how much Europeans have to pay for models only built in the U.S.A./Canada.
Amazing looking car! Nio, please bring it to Australia. We don't need battery swap stations yet. It can come later.
Sticking with my 2006 V8 Holden. Way cheaper, way more practical, way better for the planet.
@@clives4501 Or not :)
the design its top and performance promises a lot! cant wait to see it in UK
Another nice car from China, well presented as usual Elliot.
Lidar is an acronym of "light detection and ranging" or "laser imaging, detection, and ranging". It is a method for determining ranges by targeting an object or a surface with a laser and measuring the time for the reflected light to return to the receiver - from Wikipedia. So, yeah, it shoots lasers out of the roof.
My thoughts exactly 🤣
"Who needs that?" He said, standing in front of a car that literally shoots lasers out of its roof
😂😆😆😂
@@krugerdave at least it doesn’t have pointless features like.... putting another windscreen on the roof
That’s not expensive, heavy, a nightmare to clean or replace for no good reason other then trying to look expensive
Cos that’s what people want in a more budget car 🤦♂️
@@nc3826 whoever said anything about the lasers being dangerous? They're not even in the visible spectrum... But still, lasers 😎
exactly!
What's really hard to understand is that both the ET5 and the BYD Seal look significantly better than the Tesla Model 3, even though they are all similarly styled. What is Tesla doing? Can't they hire someone who knows how to design beautiful cars? One only has to look at a Tesla model X to realise just how clueless their design department is. I remember when Hyundai couldn't style a car to save their lives, then they hired Luc Donckerwolke and went from some of the ugliest cars on the road to some of the best. I think NIO and BYD are going to do very well. I'd pay more for a Seal or an ET5 than I would a Tesla Model 3. Just make them available in North America.
Good review.
7:02 it's hilarious that you say "we don't need that!" when talking about shooting lasers out of the roof...when this car does exactly that with the LIDAR unit...lol
Yep, mentioned it multiple times which really annoyed me when, as you say, that's exactly what it DOES do. Aside from kitchens in Rivians I couldn't really think of any "unnecessary features" of other EVs either. Seemed like making a point out of nothing.
Tesla model 3 in china starts at 229,900 batteries included, a fair bit cheaper than the ET5
So the video needs a new, less clickbaity, title
But a great addition to the EV offering nonetheless
❤ great comment
Standard range?
The 150kWh battery option is gonna be interesting. I wonder how they'll fit that many cells into the battery... and if Nio can do that others will too
If they can manage that then they will have some decent range even with towing a caravan. But that battery will be like half the weight of the whole car...
I think its a solid state tech. kWH is just a measure of energy, not volume. The new tech must be able to fit more kwh of energy into the same sized (or smaller?) cells/pack
@@myvideos1125 I think the issue is weight rather then size.... but I get your point
@@myvideos1125 yeah it is solid state... they announced it back in 2021. It's still not available of course and nobody knows how long it will take till it's market ready. Looks like Nio pulled one out of the old Elon Musk playbook...
forget The Elon gang.... they can't even do a battery swapping...
It's 62000 € with the 75kWh battery in Germany, with range similar to the 44000 € Model 3. Even the M3P is cheaper. So it undercuts what, the Model S?
Same thought here. Dunno who they try to fool 😂
@@Bud_Terence battery swap/charge + no battery liability in the long run
@@nntransinc4498 12000/(170x12)=5,88 So you pay more than the full price of the battery in 6 years.
It has more range, you can upgrade the battery more easily, driving assist is more future proof with lidar, quality control is better and they don't have an insane CEO being more bothered with twitter than inproving the QC of teslas.
@@shinoMusic Quality control is better? Has Nio shipped numbers outside of China yet to prove that?
Undercut Tesla?
In Denmark Et5 75kw is Prized 20% higher than a TM3 LR.
Keep up, Fully Charged.
Note the dual motors. It's pitted against the Model 3 Performance.
But again...I don't think they're that similar.
@@theolich4384 Not fast enough to be up against M3 P.
M3 LR also has 2 motors, and with a acceleration boost, it's still a lot cheaper and also faster than a ET5.
@@1963Bonde What alternative reality that has a Model 3 LR with dual motors?
@@theolich4384 What?
Pretty sure context was undercutting within China. It is misleading when general audience for these videos is English speaking.
Wow, copy of a Tesla model 3 and more expensive. 😕
My experience, testing the bigger brother of this, the ET7, was that it was very much like a Tesla Mpdel S, but better in every imaginable way; better quality feel, better use of space, better design (especially on the interior) and much, much more fun to drive (when in sport mode). I expect this to be in the same way, in regards to the Tesla Model 3, which they obviously pin-poited as the main compettror. Looks similar, but better, it's a sedan (when it could been a hatchback) and it even got the same kind of interiot door-poppers as the Model 3. I love the interor - one of the best looking on the market and the exterior is also very good looking. Will be interesting to compare with both the ET7 and the Model 3, if/when I get a chance to test drive it.
I agree, it looks way better and more modern. I think it's worth the premium
It's funny how Elliot completely avoids the fact that this is simply a less good copy of a Tesla Model 3 at a much higher cost when you factor in the battery rental. They literally took a Model 3 and copied it note for note. And he praises them for all the things Tesla brought to market in 2017 with the Model 3 that Nio shamelessly copies.
While no expert, the Model 3 didn't have a hatchback as I recall. Finish quality in a Tesla is also part of what I hear back from the handful of Tesla owners I know.
@@connclissmann6514 This car isn't a hatchback.... And yeah, when ya got nothing else, talk about panel gaps (which is a totally overblown nonsense argument since I can find them on ALL makes of cars).
@@user-to2rf1rj5v well if you won't talk about panel gaps, how about we talk about Tesla's orange peel paint finish?
@@metricstormtrooper Even BMW i7 cars have orange peel. SMH
@@metricstormtrooper I've owned 3, not one had that issue.
Looks nice but that’s about it, still prefer model 3 or y for price and tech. Feels more like a sales pitch than a review, terrible
That’s not a soft close door 😀 soft close is where you close the door gently and then an actuator takes over and closes it fully. Nice job otherwise
All of NIO's NT2.0 platform cars including the ET5 come with soft close doors. He just didn't present it properly :D
This is a soft door.
I'm an owner of ET5
@@violawasser2932 How is your experience with the ET5 if I may ask? :)
@@stefanospap6288 steping on the brake pedal is like steping on a piece of sponge. It doesn't give proper feedback.
But still even better than the brake of Tesla which feels like stepping on a stone.
@@violawasser2932 Are you happy with your purchase overall?
you can print adjust the steering feel and suspension via the control center, ie sport, comfort, etc
Am I the only one looking at this and simply seeing a Nio “Model 3”?
This must have been done before Tesla’s price cuts.
I won’t be buying…
Elliot's reviews are always obnoxious when he spends time telling people what they don't need in a car. I like 1,000 watts in my sound system! Say YOU don't need it Elliot.
I'm sure its a good car but so is the Tesla Model 3 which by all accounts is much cheaper in Europe. Maybe it is cheaper in China.
This guy is such a Chinese car lover!
I just test drived the ET5 and I can guarantee you that it's much better than the Tesla Model 3 I have...I think i'm going to change!
I am hoping Nio goes global soon!
Can you name some aspects in which it's better? How is the software for example?
@@David_Polakmodel 3的悬挂太硬了
7:41 Tesla did that first in EV's...frameless windows and a massive glass roof. Check.
Yes yes very bad!
The glass roof is a minus in my view. Try living in the Australian sun with a roof like that.
So strange to listen to him referring the R&D and this R&D seems to translate into copying Tesla...
It does look better than Tesla but it is more expensive than Tesla
Model Y unless chinese car is way way cheaper, but this car is not cheaper and not available in Finland.
Back = Porsche Taycan
Yeah, same thought here...
Yep, and the front is like someone took a Kona face and stretched it over a Model 3.
I've watched for many years; I'm at pains to say that I think the script for this video could have been tighter. As a friendly critique, there's a lot of repetition which if focused would have been a narrative build up to the final conclusion. But the conclusion was instead repeated throughout the video and I think it created a bit of a headwind.
Big fan of fully charged and Elliot's reviews. Please keep up the good work.
I agree, I have this with more videos on this channel lately. Quite a bit of repetition and praise for certain brands and ideas, but less focus on quality feeling, driving and actual range.
Adding to the repetition the fact that some of the ideas presented seem just copying from Tesla creating a deja vu effect/sensation
Completely agree
Lot of repetition
Also not enough info about center console
I mean, I want NIO just for the Swapp. Most Important, really Matters. And a tow Hook. Most Important. I wait for NIO SwapNGo Stations in the EU.
The model 3 had a price cut 2 weeks ago in China and is now 229,900 yuan. Which is significantly cheaper than this car! Obviously the model 3 has a smaller battery but is more efficient and has no monthly fees for battery.
Wait, you don't have to pay for a monthly fee if you buy the battery, no?
@@rs-dp6pr the battery included Nio was already 30+% more expensive than a model 3! The only cheap Nio was the battery rental one. But this is now 15% more expensive than a base model 3 in China.
The Chinese Model 3 surely, but you didn't say?
Love the ET5! Sadly it's priced way above the Model 3 here in Sweden, around €15,000 more to be exact (SR M3, no battery lease on Nio).
That's in no way justified for me, even if I would 99% go for the Nio ET5. Even renting/leasing the battery is more expensive than Model 3, starting price is then €3500 or so more which is fine by itself but then I would need to pay €180/month for the battery...
Sorry Nio, you need to reevaluate your price model here in Sweden.
Can't you buy from Norway, and import it into Sweden? It's cheaper in Norway.
@@thanksforyouruploads You don't have to be broke to consider saving €15,000 on 2 comparable cars. You just have to value your money, and not spending too much of it on a depreciating asset.
@@HTeo-og1lg import tax (~28%) since it's a new car, added registration and higher insurance due to it being an import.
if it's older than 6 months and done over 10,000 km I can import it through any EU country without taxes.
@@onlineo2263 thank you for understanding the value of money 👍🏻 we are after all in a financial crisis atm, I won't be buying a car for the next 2-3 years or so.
Not only Sweden. Germany same situation. Overpriced for nothing. Just to brag around: "we are premium" does'nt make it legit.
Great car and brand overall but still too expensive...!
If you drive very little look at a car with a smaller battery. Most people only need a used $10k ev but sadly their stuck in their own ego and vanity.
Your presentation style has greatly improved Elliot! I've been following you since your very first review for FC. Keep it up!
Unfortunately he’s clueless about technology
6:28 umm, you can't compare pricing against other makers when you leave the monthly battery rental cost out of your Nio pricing. You MUST add this back in to the total cost of ownership to make any kind of fair comparison. Over five years of ownership that battery will add $10,800 to the cost of ownership. And you'll pay that every 5 years FOREVER.
This is why I don't like Nio. I like Xiaopeng and BYD.
you can always buy it without the battery swap, and don’t forget to discount the free swaps per month, which will save you the cost of charging / fuelling, access to the nio houses, nio service included, etc.
This is a good point, and another one that would have been made by a host with healthy skepticism and thorough research
You will also have a battery in perfect condition with the latest technology forever. You also get two free swaps (at least) that you can save every month that will save you around $10 000 in those five years if we take average german prices at charging stations.
Also massively overstated the price of the Tesla, which is 30,000 cheaper than the battery rental, and 100,000 cheaper than the battery outright car.
If the 75kWh battery gives you 560km range... Why don't they have a 50kWh option? A battery with a bit over 370km range, should be be perfectly sufficient, even for longer journeys.
CLTC range is known to be generous. Multiply by 0.8 for WLTP and once more for EPA range. Nio cars aren't known to be the most efficient out there, but you have battery swap to boot.
Because this expensive chinese is thirsty 😂
@@theolich4384 ~240km is still pretty decent.
with the diminishing returns on adding more and more battery, it may be you would get more than that, but also i feel we need more 20/30/40kwh batteries, without their own weight to drag around they would be much moree efficent. That doesnt make sense but you probably know what i mean.
@@dorianleakey It makes complete sense.... Most people dont drive far daily
There is some inspirational stuff coming out of China, ....but that is where I have to draw the line! The GEOPOLITICAL problems with China prevent ANY confidence in buying these cars! Who knows whether they can "spy" on their occupants, or by disabled at the switch of someone's political finger? As for the "battery swap technology", GREAT! ...but where is that technology or INFRASTRUCTURE outside the PRC? Where are the dealerships and service networks?
When I see western governments promoting such companies and technology in Europe and the USA, I'll give them another look! ...because it REALLY DOES look good! But LOOKS are OFTEN deceiving!
I want to buy a Nio as soon as the SUV comes to Canada. I own a Tesla Model S and wished I could trade it in the the Nio ET7.
As a Canadian, I couldn't agree more. $NIO
@@charlesd9949 Love the Chinese then?
@@norwegianzound The cars and the manufacturing efficiency, yes.
Is it just me, or would anyone else want one of these with the Chinese language badges on the back? When they land in Europe they'll have English language badging, which won't be as interesting.
Same range BMW i4 costs 10k less in Germany. Telsa Model 3 with Nio-comparable quality is 20k less.
I don't think it is going to sell especially well in Europe.
I4 is compromised ICE platform
Model 3 is like 6 years old frog design
What a bummer i love this car, but this car is WAY to expensive! It should be cheaper then M3, Tesla pricecut crushes the compatitors on price and performance. This car should be in the 38k - 42k euro range to be attractive (Model 3 is now in the market for 44k euro) on a price point of view. Wonder how the software is on the ET5.
I'm all aboard the EV-hype train and yet nothing about this car or its pricing appealed to me. Battery swapping is not the selling point motor-journalists seem to think it is.
I find it really weird that battery swapping isn't a thing in "the west", given that so many of the "I'll never buy an EV / I drive 5,000 miles every day in my diesel without problems" brigade state battery life/replacement and long range drive requirements as their primary issues with EVs. My first thought was it's a knock-off of the Tesla with arguably nicer styling in places, but the taxi light/LIDAR on the roof, and the fact it'll be WAY more expensive than the Tesla in the UK just makes it a complete non-starter
It's a really great looking car.
But what about build quality and rust protection ? Most Chinese cars aren't even hot dip galvanized ! They're like 1970's Italian cars made from bad Russian steel !
The loud nasty music in this episode is hell ANNOYING !
What a beautiful car! NIO's whole lineup looks fantastic. Crazy how the ET5 makes Tesla's cars appear very dated.
Why do people keep comparing this with a Tesla model 3? 😂 Nio stands for premium and high quality! Tesla on the other hand for garbage and failure. You get what you pay flor, and a car is and always will be a status symbol, I also like my woman prettier than ugly. ET5 all the way 👍
Same range as a standard model 3 with a higher price is not much of an undercut.
And little cargo space 😏
Probably higher charging times as well.
look at the performance of this, it tops Tesla in all aspects!
Better design and range is longer
The Waffle House has found it’s new host
With the LiDAR and cameras fitted, how good is the autonomous driving?
Focussed on practicality.Where is the manual controls for temp and vol.Trying to navigate a screen to change these settings is arguably more dangerous than using your mobile whilst driving.
Model 3 in china is now 229k rmb 33 k usd. Who is undercutting who again? Lol. Wrong and outdated title even before posting
You haven't done your homework have you? Let me enlighten you. The price you mention is for the model 3 standard. So worse range, rear wheel motor only. It's pretty much substantially worse in every single aspect. Interior, infotainment, tech, performance, reliability, quality. Andddd most important of all is the free swaps/supercharging and God tier service in China that your NIO comes with. Yes. NIO is undercutting tesla big time. You just got to do some digging because it's not the car alone that you got to look into for when it comes to NIO as it is a very service-oriented company. The free swaps alone over a period of 2-3 years can save you enough money to be able to buy a bmw 3 series. NIO is just so much better overall for the consumer than any other EV. Sadly, people aren't educated enough yet to realize it and you appear to be an example of that ;D
yeh really poor. I get that the video was probably filmed a few weeks ago before the China price cuts for tesla but to have the title and tweet about it undercutting is so bad form/use for clicks. People who even know a little about EVs have heard of Tela price cuts, I would have at least checked the claims before posting. I expect better from this channel.
@@stefanospap6288 You are blind let me open your eyes. People are so blind. Model 3 standard range is 540 km vs 550 km (Nedc), so basically no difference. Infotainment, tech, reliability, service is not better because it's basically a new, amateur company that has not proven the reliability and service yet. It takes time. Tesla is the leading brand in infotainment software tech, if you disagree then you are blind. Yes it is faster 0-60 6 sec vs 4 sec but you have to pay extra for your battery swap every month in 5 years it's about $7k and the worst part is you can't buy ET5 outside of china with BaaS (Battery as a service). Outside of china the price is very high and there are not many swapping stations. It's a car only for the china market for and can't compete with tesla. Even With that higher price they also lose money. Lol
@@mhsohel47 Oh boy, answering to this isnt even worth my time. You got a lot of homework to do. Adios amigo :D
@@stefanospap6288 Everybody knows, who needs homework. Lol
Must be an easy life being a motoring journalist thinking £40k is cheap and affordable...
Any chance of you coming into the real world anytime soon ?
Great video, will this be coming to the UK any time soon . Hopefully it will force the big auto makers to up their game 🥹
Don't expect it to be cheap in UK. We saw what happened to Ora Cat🙁
Car should get announced for the UK market by end of this year or definitely next year. Already hiring staff there.
Not so impressed... Its a saloon car not a hatch-back. I can't say it looks any better than anything else... With it being so close in price to a Model 3, I would get a Tesla.
Awesome review, thank you Elliot and keep the NIO reviews coming. Cannot wait for your reviews of the new NIO SUVs.
How are the Chinese auto manufacturers achieving such high quality new cars so quickly. It took the Japanese and Koreans more than decade each to match the quality of the european cars of their era's. China seems to be romping ahead with EV's in well within a decade.
This is fantastic for making EV's more affordable and available, but how are they doing it?
Is Elliot on PRC’s salary? Time to get someone who can give a Jack type balanced and entertaining view.
To be fair he did mention a few bad points about it. Lets not bring politics into a car show.
Because someone is not rabid anti Chinese goebbels like you, you start crying about not enough hate and spew.
It's a bit weird that he keeps rabbiting on about how it undercuts the Model 3 that is about 100,000 RMB cheaper.
@@gasdive it’s cheaper than Tesla if brought without batteries. And it’s 50000 rmb more expensive with batteries.
No longer accurate information. I guess this commercial was made before Tesla’s recent price changes and then you guys published it anyway.
Interesting review. Unfortunately haven't entailed most of its technical specs of the car such as suspension, wheel size, battery type, infotainment system and software etc. I think without that it is very difficult to place this car on the market and compare it or position it above most of the manufacturers...
I agree with you. Too much aesthetics, not enough specs. Aesthetics are subjective, but u can use stats to compare other vechiles in class. Least he mentioned the lack of frunk. So many fully charged reviews dont mention if frunk or not.
At least charging speed is important... I agree, too much rambling and too few specs. Almost sounded like a NIO advertisement, the trunk is really tiny on such a big car and without a frunk to compensate not many families would pick this vehicle.
There are endless videos that geek out over specs, how much wider this model is in mm.... nah, super happy with Eliots style
He doesn’t have a clue doesn’t know what LiDAR is air curtains he’s clueless
Is it just me or have motor manufacturers fallen into the same trap as with ICE cars, they all started looking the same. As for this car it doesn't look much different, especially side on, to the BYD Seal or the Ioniq 6. Put a different badge on it and I bet most people wouldn't realise. EV haven't got off the ground and already look like clones of each other.
Bloody love the look of the Neo ET5. Bring it to Europe please, as long as the price is as stated in this review.
I want the ID Buzz or a Skoda enyak!
@@brunoheggli2888 So something less efficient. I guess it depends on how youre using the car.
@@samusaran7317 I dont care much about efficiency!10 or 20% more energyconsumtion is ok The IDBuzz is very practical and the enyak very cheap and made in eastern europa!Whats not to like about that?And if the war is over maybe we can soon buy some cars made in the Ukraine!No need for cars from China!
@@brunoheggli2888 If you have a family, I don't blame you. Im just a single guy that prefers Japanese cars.
@@samusaran7317 Toyotas are great to!The aiD buzz is also great for camping or if you dont want to weast money for an apartment!The new Toyota Prius pluginhibrid is just amazing!And in the future Cars from india like Tata will be a sucess!So forget about China,that story comes to a end fast!
Drag Coefficient has NOTHING to do with keeping the car planted firmly on the ground. 2m13s in.
That boot is small for a car of that size, my 2002 Mazda 6 saloon had 501 liters
Not a copy paste car at all, seeing where China is going, owning a car made by China, might be a bd idea
Can you guys start another channel and re review some of these cars a few years down the track. Call it fully charged rewind and just let people know how some of these vehicles are going quality wise, battery status, durability etc. just a thought as it would certainly help buyers looking at getting into the used EV market.
Thanks.
Great idea! I also want to know more on the real-life kWh usage.
Seriously. Treating these like equals in established markets where players have been around for a decade or more is ridiculous.
Does anyone else live in China who could do this? Bored of hearing this guy jazz his pants about every car he sits on with no context
Looks really good! But 381l and no frunk is very little storage space if you compare eg to Model 3
Pretty sure he deliberately avoided talking/comparing about the model 3 other then it’s price. The cars are basically the same. People will be cross shopping them and not so much the others that he mentioned.
yeah and on this car you cant even drop the backseats so the space is even worse then on tesla.
@@danielstefanovic2604 BS!!
At 14:05 you can see the leaver for dropping the seat and when he's talking about the trunk he states that the rear seats fold flat 🤷♂️
@@reedjackson8834 and... He gave the wrong numbers for the price of a Tesla in China. The base M3 is 229,900 RMB. 30,000 cheaper than the car without a battery, 100,000 cheaper than the version that comes with a battery.
I think Nio is far too expensive and a company that thinks battery swapping can work -well Elon tried that very bad idea - as Sandy Munro says ‘you never want to have connectors being stressed’ and especially high voltage ones plus others !
Oh it’s just $10800 every 5 years for battery rental !, a reason for the cars worth dropping out of the sky - just imagine the 2nd 5 years
Every car beats that !, even ICE costs
Vivality isn't a word. The presenter made it up.
the rivalry inside the Chinese border of the local automakers is something unbelievable.
Cars from India are way better!
@@brunoheggli2888 uhh no
@@Rex-ww4cw They are the future!Game over for everybody!
@@brunoheggli2888 You are speaking the truth.
2:57 to answer your challenge, the AVATR 11 (especially the 011) looks way better.
The polestar 2 has a 0-60mph time of 4.4, 4.5 seconds.. The NIO is a conservative 4 seconds with a more likely 3.8 seconds with one medium weight driver & not loaded in the back..
They sure did copy a lot of the Model 3. Smart. Copy the leader.
The chynise can't create anything, except copy. This thing will break down, or get into fatal accidents. Buy at your own risk.
Great review, thanks. It'll be a while before battery swapping reaches the smaller island nations off mainland Europe, I imagine. Malta, Cyprus, Ireland, (UK?) will likely never be a priority.
battery swapping will not be anything mainstream at any point
It would be easier to cover the UK in battery swap stations than China or the US.
@@shoelessjoe428 it's completely pointless
@@shoelessjoe428 Cornwall? Dundee? Enniskillen? It is always tempting to only cover areas of a higher density population, when providing infrastructure. The UK has a relatively low density of population overall so this will remain a challenge.
Basically the right-hand drive countries😅
You didn't mention anything about the software!
This is where Tesla beats its copy-cats.
He keeps talks about not wanting laser beams when there's a literal LiDAR jutting out of the roof. smh
then you have no idea what he's talking about
Cannot believe the designers allowed it to have 3 hideous horns which ruin an otherwise sleek looking car
Nice looking car! But... a couple of things. Like almost all Chinese car companies, with the exception of BYD, none are profitable. And while Nio's battery swapping seems neat, it either is going to make it harder to become profitable, or its owners will be paying a monthly fee in perpetuity. If you have a battery-swap scheme, you have several issues. First, you have to manufacture multiple battery packs for each car- so you have a larger capital expenditure. Second, it makes it hard to develop future battery packs without having to build out either larger battery swap stations, or having different versions of it. Third, it is going to make it hard to sell the car, as not everyone is going to want to rent the battery- and how do you do a trade-in for a new car that is not a Nio, with a rented battery? With battery charging times getting less and less, there is just no future need for battery swap stations, especially for just driving around the city, which most drivers do the vast majority of the time. And it is a whole lot cheaper to build charging stations than battery swap stations, even without including the cost of the extra batteries.
Good analysis . But i think its just an extra feature thats nice to have. I won't be buying a nio just because of it. But it does provides extra flexibilty. You can chose to buy battery outright or rent it for lowering initial buy price. Easier to upgrade to future better batteries. I wouldn't worry about battery swap station being incompatible, because they can be dynamically adjusted based on different model's measurements. But it is really useful ? I don't think so, i think Nio is wasting money. I wish they can focus on making their cars cheaper, but i guess they want to be a premium brand, so they want something like this to differentiate.
@MrAl99807
Nio is expected to reach profitability in less years then Tesla did. The above post is Tesla Fanboy
Personally, I'd quite like a car where lasers shoot out of the roof.
The price is not that good. Considering the increase when it comes to the european market, I doubt it's gonna undercut Tesla. Especially since Tesla decreased their prices recently.
But the finition is better, that's for sure.
I'm not sure that everyone is gonna be into the robot thing, I don't know if the info-tainment system is any good, I don't know the real range or the efficiency. I don't know the recharge speed (important, since, let's face it: battery replacement stations for Nio only are not gonna open everywhere here).
The writing in the video says a lot of "nothing". "God like levels of perfection", "comes with ***km of CLTC range", saying that since it's less expensive than the Model 3 when you lease the battery, they are undercutting Tesla. No, you still pay 140€ more per month !
Meh, this channel has a lot of good content and information, but often it spend so much time praising the car that nothing interesting is said.
Thank you for pointing this out. I felt there were plenty of subjects not covered. Still a great-looking car.
They said it undercuts the Tesla, but they're wrong. The Tesla is 229,900 RMB, 30,000 less than the battery rental, and 100,000 cheaper than the battery outright car.
It's not a hatch. Why do people still make this schoolboy error?
Very focused on aesthetics which is always a personal choice. Mechanical specs are much more useful than a sales pitch about how beautiful it is. PS I think its bloody ugly with the warts on the roof and the back end looks like a large letter box slot, but that's just my opinion.
The nio is far away from the efficient of a Tesla. So Tesla is the better ev
Wow! I'm impressed!
Actually looks better that the Tesla...
Way better
Can’t account for tastes. Tesla is not winning any beauty prizes but at least they’re bland. Here the front looks compressed and horrible and the the color looks like it came out of some orifice.
The amount of angry Tesla fanboys in the comments is wild.
A fabulous car, inside and out!! Go NIO!!
that is why tesla put their prices up $10k last year to encourage others to fill the gap as tesla cant build one quick enough
Thanks Elliot. Looks like a great car, but I’m doubting the whole battery swapping thing. I don’t see it becoming something widespread for a single brand. And on the practical side, getting large grid connections on that scale might be a problem for the next couple of years in some countries.
The idea is great for road trips, but much rather have fast charging and/or inductive charging or such.
There are countless benefits to battery swap. Not getting out of your car, fully autonomous, and only pushing a button to swap is just one. In the Winter this a big benefit. NIO has agreements with many petrol companies to build out swap stations at existing gas stations. Charging batteries slowly during off-peak hours is less costly and degrades the batteries less. Swapping a faulty battery with no service call is brilliant. Swap reduces total cost of ownership. Able to upgrade or downgrade battery capacity at every swap. No built-in battery technology obsolescence. I could go on...
I think the MAIN advantage is to upgrade the battery after years, I drive a 2019 Model S and I am not getting the same range at all
battery swap aside, NIO evs are still brilliant EVs, with better fit and finishing than Tesla
Also battery swap might not suit your country, but it certainly does in China
In my geography, long distances with little to no infrastructure…..a battery swap scenario is ideal….no charging anxiety.
We have enough expense (63k € in Germany) Cars in Europe.
We need more small affordable cars.
Nice. Looking forward to rent one of those some day.
Nio undercuts Tesla by not giving you the battery :)
It does not. Since Tesla dropped its prices. The model 3 is cheaper than this Nio in every country they are both present (including China, where the model 3 is about 15% cheaper)
@@onlineo2263 even worse for Nio
Thanks Eliot - interesting - looking forward to seeing them in the UK.
Do we have a date for the uk
The back looks like a Aston Martin DBX.
NIO is toast given Tesla’s price cut.
Awesome presentation. I wish more of these Chinese brands were available in Europe.
They’re coming in full force, several Chinese brands will be available this year in Sweden.
@@ambessashield9360 Did you chip your hand too?
@@samusaran7317 ?
The vest looks like it’s made out of a moving blanket
Just quickly gloss over the fact that you gonna be paying a hefty price every month for renting the battery.
Better than paying for petrol.
It doesn’t gloss over that at all. In fact, the video gives you the exact price being charged right now for that rental.
You can choose either option: battery on a £120 p/m lease, or battery with car for £8000 extra.
I happen to think that’s a good offer to customers - it gives people the choice between both options.
It guarantees against battery degradation and gives the option to upgrade when the solid state 150kWh comes out, whereas the latest Teslas will become obsolescent. The talking ball bugs me though.
Didn’t gloss over it at all.
Steel aluminum composite???? Wow they invented a new metal.