The games were graciously donated to us, the episode was requested, the hard work was put in and the show was created. We had a ton of fun making this episode, I was looking forward to putting this out. The sega had many improvements from the original (which is also a great game), great music and more levels. A worthy opponent and I think a fair fight.
Yea I totally expect arguments, that's what the show is about after all. I was seeing some heated comments and people saying the episode was unfair. So I wanted to address that, give our side of it. Cheers man!
To all of the complainers: These two guys put a lot of hard work into making these videos for us to enjoy,and to take all of us (90s kids) on a trip down memory lane. If you don't appreciate the hard work and effort that Console Wars puts into their videos,then don't watch it. Simple as that. @Console Wars Awesome episode as always,guys. I look forward to all of your content,and keep up the good work 👍☺
You can be a fan of their work and still criticize their work. The same way many people put in hard work into the games they review on the channel but hard work doesn't mean the game is good or superior to a different game.
"Are we doing this?" "I don't know it's Saturday and might have a hot dat... YEAH WE'RE DOING THIS" Dude, laughed so hard. Love the show, I'm subscribing.
Wonder what caused more smashed controllers during the late 80s/early 90s... The Battletoads Hoverbike Stage...? Or... TMNT underwater bomb disarming stage...?
The music was way too subjective. I generally give the edge to the Genesis when it comes to music, but those sampled guitar riffs on the SNES sound awesome. Rare did a nice job on both soundtracks. The SNES version is definitely the better game, but to be fair they're both very good.
Been discovering your videos recently. You have been doing this for over 10 years?? I love your videos and dedication :))) Please keep up the great work :))
Yeah, they have a lot of different arcade games that they put there during certain reviews. For example the Batman arcade game was in the background during the Batman Returns video and the Spider-Man arcade game was in the background for the Maximum Carnage review. They have quite an impressive number of arcade cabinets!
The skits are consistently the most entertaining parts of these videos. Don't get me wrong, the review parts are still great, but you guys got cringe comedy down to a science.
Once again, you two impress the heck out of me. Another great episode, Greg and Dan! I got an awesome suggestion: WWF RAW for SNES and Sega 32X (since it'll be nearly 25 years since RAW debuted on TV)!
Console Wars that's because they are excellent games! Turrican 2 on the Amiga (probably a swear word on here!) is one of my favourite games of all time.
Phew, I was afraid you guys were gonna do Battletoads NES vs Genesis cuz I was actually gonna make a video comparing the two. I need to pick up Battlemaniacs. I remember I avoided it when I learned that there were only six stages, but it looks pretty cool. And looking forward to 'DeVito Stein', but everyone knows it's best on Super Nintendo. Great episode, guys!
Great episode guys, I honestly never saw the SNES game as a remake of the NES game back in the day since the levels were so drastically different (Now I know). For a suggestion aside from my normal Stallone picks how about Super Baseball 2020, great arcade style sports game and is a lot of fun regardless if you are a baseball fan.
My favorite episode, great job guys :) Battletoads was quite fun for me even if brutally difficult (played NES and Sega versions, even if unlimited continues it would be too hard for me but I like to play it for 10-15 minutes from time to time to see how far can I get :) ), good that microsoft rebooted the franchise
Great episode again! I'm still learning English language but I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and greetings from Argentina. About the games, I played both SNES and Genesis versions of Battletoads but never was able to finish them.
Also...OF COURSE THOSE TOADS CAN'T TAKE A PUNCH...Haven't you seen the original comic? The toads were the alter egos of three game programming nerds....so obviously they'd take a punch to the chin like nerds
I like the quality over quantity approach you guys took here. Would have been nice if the Gen version was also a remake, as opposed to a more simple port.
Retro Soul Yeah, that's pretty much it. It's an interesting comparison. More levels vs a nicer look. I don't know why more people aren't liking the comparison.
Hey Console Wars, you know what i just figured out? When you type in the words "console wars" on RUclips, you guys are now the number 1 pick, before you were like the number 4 or 5 pick on RUclips. Congratulations! Thats great progress :-)
The NES game is still better than both of these, in my opinion. It's subjective, but the enemy designs, music (though I like the ice level theme), and controls in the Genesis port all seemed like downgrades to me. With Battlemaniacs, the sprites are just too damn big. It feels claustrophobic to me.
Console Wars the problem with the nes version was that 2 players was impossible to win. The chase level with the death swirl instantly killed player two basically before they could move. Genesis version is the improved albeit, straight port.
That bug was fixed in the PAL version though. You can actually finish the game with 2-players though but it will cost a Continue for the second player. ruclips.net/video/pvnsZeDQ8GE/видео.html
Ever since I found this show I’ve loved it and for the most part, I’ve always thought that you guys are on point and do a great job and encourage you to keep at it. I really liked the conclusions you took on this game and can agree with almost everything except the gameplay. Now please, don’t get upset and take it for what it’s worth, nothing more than an internet comment based perhaps on a personal opinion more than anything. The reason why I feel the Genesis takes the cake more when it comes to Battletoads v Battlemaniacs could be after all personal preference. Having played what is nothing more than an NES port on the Genesis and what is a remake on the snes, first of all, i think they’re just flat out different games (though the snes is more of the same regardless). Battlemaniacs in my opinion feels like it relies more on gimmicks than actual gameplay. It has bonus stages, sure, but they’re not levels or necessary to proceed on the game, the game feels really slow, not just in the music but in the gameplay, even more so, when you use your special abilities, the toads take forever to switch between frames to regular sprite mode and because of this, if you have an enemy nearby, it will take a shot at you and there’s nothing you can do about it, while the genesis, you do have a chance for the most part to defend yourself from an enemy attacking from behind, that if you haven’t defeated the one you’re working on because usually you can also dispose of them faster. Speaking of enemies, 1/10 times do you get 3 enemies on Battlemaniacs, 3/10 times do you get 2 enemies 5/10 you get 1 enemy on screen which kinda sucks having to work only on one enemy at a time and at such a slow pace, it gets monotonous and boring and also, having 3 enemies makes the game lag. The other 1/10 again, the SNES relies on gimmicks and uses something like mini explosions which i commend on the snes that they at least use their strengths in visual effects on their games, but I’m not much into sacrificing gameplay for gimmicks. True the genesis does sometimes drop enemies 1 at a time but usually it’s 2 and you can move on much faster towards the next set of enemies which helps because though you may have encountered just one, the other set is already waiting for you. Also, AI is kinda stupid on Battlemaniacs, many times, they will literally kill themselves by running and falling off cliffs or standing on top of a disappearing platform. Though the sprites may be bigger on the snes, due to higher resolution, they look clunky and kinda dumb, i don’t like it when they are so big they make the overworld look so small, the Genesis version has them at proper sprite to world ratio despite not having such awesome resolution as the snes. As for the lack of levels on Battlemaniacs, the “give me 6 levels anyday” over 12, just make em longer, I don’t know, I’d much rather have variety over longer levels. I really don’t see the bonus levels as an excuse for lack of more levels, and maybe 12 could be overdoing it, but perhaps about 9 levels and the bonuses would have been great balance for a game. Also I get that the Difficulty is on the high end with the Battletoads games especially on the NES and Genesis versions, but this should bring up the question of who the targeted audience for this game was. If anyone was familiar with NES battletoads, we all know the games is and should be damn hard and that’s what we expect, so that’s also not much of an excuse to say one is better than the other, it’s Battletoads, it’s expected and we want hard, we want that sense of a milestone accomplishment when we beat it, there’s many things that you learn to do as you gain experience on the game, like timing the jumps on the snake, figuring out where the air platforms will appear on the turbotunnel, timing the punch on the rat in the rat race, Battletoads is for a specified audience and should have been a point when speaking about Battletoads that was not taken into consideration. So in conclusion, though it doesn’t really change anything, I’d take Genesis Battlemaniacs over Battlemaniacs any day. It might not be as visually detailed as Battlemaniacs, but the gameplay is where it’s at for me, smoother frame drawing which leads to smoother gameplay, less gimmicks, more levels and that difficulty the Battletoads audience likes. But yeah, missing that pause beat is unforgivable! 😬
How about an episode in which Greg is Sega, and Dan Super Nintendo. The ending could be that it's a nightmare Greg is having. Periodically during the episode when he is defending the Sega game, he could be like, "What am I saying?" or "Did I just say that?" when bashing the Super Nintendo.
What a lot of people forget is that we compare different games all the time. They just have different names. It's fine to compare different games, as long as they're not done to determine which system is better, which this video does not do. This is not official or somehow binding. It's a funny RUclips show. The games are similar enough, use the same intellectual property, and came out close enough. In the end, it's just a comparison of two games. There's no meaning or implication beyond that. I thought it was very fair as well. Console Wars, in contrast to some other commenters, I agree with the conclusion of best sound. In this case, I think both games have good music. I do like FM synth, and the game has more songs in it as you said. I didn't like all the sample choices on the SNES side. Sometimes, SNES music sounds disjointed, or not cohesive. Some of it sounded quite good though. It didn't sound muffled like a lot of SNES stuff. I like the SNES sound effects more. Very nice work on the video. I really liked the frog puppet(IT'S A TOAD!!!!).
This is a tough one. I like 'em both. And the music is especially hard to choose, since both games are composed by David Wise. Ultimately, though, I think you guys got it right. And I gotta say, awesome episode. I was totally a Genie weenie growing up (and still, from time to time...)
You did a great frickin' job, Greg and Dan. I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work, dude. *High five ✋* P.S. Have you ever try Double Dragon on Genesis vs Super Double Dragon on SNES, Dan or Greg?
pietje bel Who the fuck cares, nigga? Give those guys a chance and you might be surprised, fool! You better shut up. P.S. I'm talking about talking about the north America version of Double Dragon on Genesis vs. Super Double Dragon on SNES.
This was pretty much the last Rareware game made for the Sega Genesis. Could you imagine if Sega bought them instead of Nintendo? I honestly think Sega would still be making consoles. Their contributions to the success of the SNES were invaluable.
@@Khameleon269 Definitely. They made twice as many games for the N64. Imagine if the Saturn got Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, or Jet Force Gemini. Imagine if they were given the job of making a Sonic game for the Saturn!
The best episode so far, it's a shame it felt somehow unfair since the comparison should be made between the nes and the sega versions not the snes and sega versions. The Invaders' sketch made me cry, Dan, Greg you guys are the best.
At the end it is a 16bit war and if Sega decided to do a remake of an 8bit game instead of an original game I think that was just a commercial move (I'm not sure if it was the best but that was Sega's move)
I don't see this video as comparing "two different games". Because yeah, comparing a port of an NES game to a SNES game that acts as a sort of remake/sequel, could seem a little unfair. But I interpreted this video as: Which console has the best Battletoads experience. Both games had Double Dragon Battletoads, so the next step in deciding which console had the better Battletoads experience would come down to Battletoads on Genesis vs Battlemaniacs on SNES. That's how I saw this video. As if it were responding to a kid in the 90s who wanted a Battletoads game, but didn't know which console to buy.
Hey guys, you forgot one thing for Battlemaniacs on SNES, in the Hollow Tree bonus stage where you fight the flies. The flies can give you a life if you hit the fly 5 times. Here's how.... Hit 1 one of them then hit the same fly that you just hit it, keep bashing it 5 times or more then you get a life, it's kinda tricky because they go down quick after hitting it you need to keep your timing just right bros.
thanks to this video, i kinda want to buy the SNES version, i had no idea it was this great, yes short, but great, i also love the big sprites (unlike some people's comments), i will look on it on E-bay some time soon i think
2:30 Star Fox is a good one. Slippy, one of Fox's allies, is a toad. Toads are amphibians that like to sit or rely on mushrooms. They look like frogs, but unlike frogs, they don't rely on water or rain. The mushroom men species from Super Mario Bros. are named Toad, which explains the theming.
You know, this talk about 8 and 16 bits made me think of "Batman Return/Revenge of the Joker", which sucked so badly on the Genesis and the SNES but was really good on the NES! Maybe you could do something interesting with that, it'd be epic to have an 8-bit game being directly compared to its 16-bit counterparts and beating both!
I bought a Genesis on launch day, and I loved it. This all changed when I bought the Super Nintendo, though. My younger brother was a hardcore Genesis gamer, and we would argue back and forth over who had the better version of each game. This would eventually change when Mortal Kombat II released for both systems. After playing the Super Nintendo version, my brother sold his Genesis collection to buy a Super Nintendo. The rest became history, as they say.
for me the missing 50 % of the original game is a deal breaker about Battlemaniacs, so i can't call it a better game. On the hand, even though i'm rather a sega megadrive fan boy, i can't tell that those farts that the megadrive version of the game has are better than the music on the snes version. i'll pick the original nes or snes soundtrack over it any day.
sorry, but not. it's sounds very butchered and mediocre in compare with the nes original. there're games with a good soundtrack on the megadrive, but this one isn't one of them.
Skyk0rn what ever you do, stick with the nes version, do not buy the genesis. It is highly gimped. Take it from a guy who has legitimately beat both games without cheats.
This goes out to Dan and Greg saying you two did an amazing presentation with these two games. But these comment sections are fucking insulting. People seem to be taking this whole thing very seriously over nothing. It's only comedy and opinions and you got trolls fighting in the comments. Over comparing and contrasting two games!
Brilliant video as always, although SNES should get the win for music. The Nintendo tunes are far superior. Love the comedy too. Thanks guys, keep up the great work!!
Sofir Uddin they're kinda both ports though only one just more of a hd upgrade port of the BattleToads arcade game and the other is a port of the nes game
matt ford see that's a bit unfair, arcade graphics are always pretty good, if the nes one is a port then it's a port of a port which undoubtedly won't give great comparison.
I will say, I prefer the toads to be the same size, so regarding the sprites, I gotta give it up for the Genesis...but man...that music is SOOOOOO much better on the SNES Battlemaniacs game. David Wise wrote some rocking tunes for that OST. Also, the SNES was more impressive visually. The bowling stage is tremendous to look at, very eye catching. Love your skits and the work that you put into it. Keep up the great work!
Great video, I didn't even know about the SNES version. Also I agree Battletoads becomes more of a chore with 12 hard levels. Cutting half the levels seems like a good idea
There's a satisfaction in losing. Why do you have to beat the game to be happy? More levels means more to love. Once you beat the game then it's over which leaves an inner sadness. Lol.. Losing means more challenge awaits!
Excellent, hilarious video, guys!!! I commend you both if you beat the race track level! Oh, my God -- that level is damn-near impossible to beat... O_O
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People seem to be taking things pretty seriously. Good thing this show's a comedy!
Console Wars You guys really should collaborate with AVGN!!
Vidja games r srs!!~!
Thanks guys for all the work and heart you put in your episodes! Its always fun to watch a new episode of CW!
I want to do super mario world vs sonic 1!!!!!
Maybe we should just give up and change the show's format. We can just react to trailers and make drama videos like everyone else X-D
The games were graciously donated to us, the episode was requested, the hard work was put in and the show was created. We had a ton of fun making this episode, I was looking forward to putting this out. The sega had many improvements from the original (which is also a great game), great music and more levels. A worthy opponent and I think a fair fight.
Greg your reaction from the Rash puppet's blank stare was priceless, good acting man!
Yea I totally expect arguments, that's what the show is about after all. I was seeing some heated comments and people saying the episode was unfair. So I wanted to address that, give our side of it. Cheers man!
MrGadgetgreg name something you do everyday
king has spoken
To all of the complainers: These two guys put a lot of hard work into making these videos for us to enjoy,and to take all of us (90s kids) on a trip down memory lane. If you don't appreciate the hard work and effort that Console Wars puts into their videos,then don't watch it. Simple as that. @Console Wars Awesome episode as always,guys. I look forward to all of your content,and keep up the good work 👍☺
Thank you so much. Its nice when people appreciate the hard work that goes into an episode.
Console Wars You're welcome. You guys are awesome! Keep up the great work ✌
Console Wars You're welcome. You guys are awesome! Keep up the great work! ✌
You can be a fan of their work and still criticize their work. The same way many people put in hard work into the games they review on the channel but hard work doesn't mean the game is good or superior to a different game.
I love console waaaaaaaaars!
The comments are cracking me up. Ye gods.
they are so sad it's not even funny D:
Want a fun drinking game? Drink overtime you see the word "unfair." You'll black out in 15 minutes.
SNES drunk you have a horse in this race, you’re not allowed to have an opinion!
The SNES DRUNK has spoken
Wow I didn't think I'd catch you here lol.
"Are we doing this?"
"I don't know it's Saturday and might have a hot dat... YEAH WE'RE DOING THIS"
Dude, laughed so hard.
Love the show, I'm subscribing.
Awesome!
I almost choked on my hot pocket when he did that!
any Console Wars episode becomes an instant watch
I keep thinks you're the Pat O'Connell we grew up with. Well, I'm glad you're watching!
Console Wars thanks for responding and I get that a lot
This is like old-RUclips.
Comfy.
Yo, when dude hit the frog with the controller I was dead
dem gutts itz a toad haha
Wonder what caused more smashed controllers during the late 80s/early 90s...
The Battletoads Hoverbike Stage...?
Or...
TMNT underwater bomb disarming stage...?
FUCK THE TURBO TUNNEL! SO MANY GOD DAMN GAME OVERS HAPPENED THERE!
TBONE2004 Tell me about it Dude... So many of my toad brothers met their fate on those boards...
I would love to see a very special episode playing Battletoads (2020) with Greg, Dan and Pat ❤️.
3 player mode!
The music was way too subjective. I generally give the edge to the Genesis when it comes to music, but those sampled guitar riffs on the SNES sound awesome. Rare did a nice job on both soundtracks. The SNES version is definitely the better game, but to be fair they're both very good.
Been discovering your videos recently. You have been doing this for over 10 years?? I love your videos and dedication :))) Please keep up the great work :))
dat Battletoads arcade version running in the background,,,
Yeah, they have a lot of different arcade games that they put there during certain reviews. For example the Batman arcade game was in the background during the Batman Returns video and the Spider-Man arcade game was in the background for the Maximum Carnage review. They have quite an impressive number of arcade cabinets!
The skits are consistently the most entertaining parts of these videos. Don't get me wrong, the review parts are still great, but you guys got cringe comedy down to a science.
Its comment like this that make it all worthwhile! Thank you!
+SkyMaro: i agree. Cringe comedy, also good word choice. Thats exactly what it is, people should not take it too seriously
Music is waaaaaay better for snes between these games. One of the best.
Totally... seems like they had to choose at least one win for the genesis
I saw the Mario Joke coming, and was pleased when it showed up. You guys rock.
Jared Lord We aim to please.
The best of this series for me personally is when Dan looks at Greg and says "That's it, are we doing this?" LOVE IT :D
But... what happened to Greg's papaya?
To be continued.....?
WHO CARES?!
@@ROJOyNARANJA the series continuity
Once again, you two impress the heck out of me. Another great episode, Greg and Dan!
I got an awesome suggestion: WWF RAW for SNES and Sega 32X (since it'll be nearly 25 years since RAW debuted on TV)!
Thanks! And we'll look into it!
Great video once again guys! Hopefully you'll get to doing Mega Turrican VS Super Turrican one day! May have to play Battletoads now 😃
Thanks! We get that request a lot. We prob have to do it.
Console Wars that's because they are excellent games! Turrican 2 on the Amiga (probably a swear word on here!) is one of my favourite games of all time.
Finally i waited forever for you guys to make an episode!!!! Keep them coming
Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it!
Y'all I just discovered your channel. My life will never be the same this is what I've been looking for!
Welcome to the channel!
Phew, I was afraid you guys were gonna do Battletoads NES vs Genesis cuz I was actually gonna make a video comparing the two. I need to pick up Battlemaniacs. I remember I avoided it when I learned that there were only six stages, but it looks pretty cool. And looking forward to 'DeVito Stein', but everyone knows it's best on Super Nintendo. Great episode, guys!
Thanks man! Looking forward to your video!
What a theme song all these years it doesn't get old it's awesome man great piece of music. Hope all you guys are doing good
Great episode guys, I honestly never saw the SNES game as a remake of the NES game back in the day since the levels were so drastically different (Now I know). For a suggestion aside from my normal Stallone picks how about Super Baseball 2020, great arcade style sports game and is a lot of fun regardless if you are a baseball fan.
My favorite episode, great job guys :) Battletoads was quite fun for me even if brutally difficult (played NES and Sega versions, even if unlimited continues it would be too hard for me but I like to play it for 10-15 minutes from time to time to see how far can I get :) ), good that microsoft rebooted the franchise
The Game Genie actor was super funny! Great job to your guest actor!
He's always good. I really liked him with the German accent in, I believe, the Tiny Toons episode.
Great episode again! I'm still learning English language but I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and greetings from Argentina.
About the games, I played both SNES and Genesis versions of Battletoads but never was able to finish them.
A Guy named Frank in a Beer Stein....Yep, next game is Mary Shelly's Frankenstein....HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYBODY!
Xavior TheLycan Good call 😆
Thanks again for the games sir!
Xavior TheLycan I was like did twin get a game... Or Cuphead. Really suck at guessing
Also...OF COURSE THOSE TOADS CAN'T TAKE A PUNCH...Haven't you seen the original comic? The toads were the alter egos of three game programming nerds....so obviously they'd take a punch to the chin like nerds
It's Frank from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"
I like the quality over quantity approach you guys took here. Would have been nice if the Gen version was also a remake, as opposed to a more simple port.
Retro Soul Yeah, that's pretty much it. It's an interesting comparison. More levels vs a nicer look. I don't know why more people aren't liking the comparison.
9:26 Wait, that sounds like Hallowed Be Thy Name!
Hey Console Wars, you know what i just figured out? When you type in the words "console wars" on RUclips, you guys are now the number 1 pick, before you were like the number 4 or 5 pick on RUclips. Congratulations! Thats great progress :-)
Cool!
Do Justice League Task Force, for November the month of the movie release.
saizerboy Lmao that crappy game
Hola compatriota latino.
Yay, another one that I suggested! Also, looking forward to Danny DeVito's Pro Beer Diver in the next episode.
The NES game is still better than both of these, in my opinion. It's subjective, but the enemy designs, music (though I like the ice level theme), and controls in the Genesis port all seemed like downgrades to me. With Battlemaniacs, the sprites are just too damn big. It feels claustrophobic to me.
Will Mistretta yes nes version has the tightest controls
I get that. I never played the original until this review so I didn't mind the big sprites.
Console Wars the problem with the nes version was that 2 players was impossible to win. The chase level with the death swirl instantly killed player two basically before they could move. Genesis version is the improved albeit, straight port.
That bug was fixed in the PAL version though.
You can actually finish the game with 2-players though but it will cost a Continue for the second player.
ruclips.net/video/pvnsZeDQ8GE/видео.html
Ruudos not sure how much of a fix that is. Fair enough though.
That hot date comment had me rolling... It's the funniest line I've seen in all your videos, guys. Keep it up.
Ever since I found this show I’ve loved it and for the most part, I’ve always thought that you guys are on point and do a great job and encourage you to keep at it. I really liked the conclusions you took on this game and can agree with almost everything except the gameplay. Now please, don’t get upset and take it for what it’s worth, nothing more than an internet comment based perhaps on a personal opinion more than anything. The reason why I feel the Genesis takes the cake more when it comes to Battletoads v Battlemaniacs could be after all personal preference. Having played what is nothing more than an NES port on the Genesis and what is a remake on the snes, first of all, i think they’re just flat out different games (though the snes is more of the same regardless). Battlemaniacs in my opinion feels like it relies more on gimmicks than actual gameplay. It has bonus stages, sure, but they’re not levels or necessary to proceed on the game, the game feels really slow, not just in the music but in the gameplay, even more so, when you use your special abilities, the toads take forever to switch between frames to regular sprite mode and because of this, if you have an enemy nearby, it will take a shot at you and there’s nothing you can do about it, while the genesis, you do have a chance for the most part to defend yourself from an enemy attacking from behind, that if you haven’t defeated the one you’re working on because usually you can also dispose of them faster. Speaking of enemies, 1/10 times do you get 3 enemies on Battlemaniacs, 3/10 times do you get 2 enemies 5/10 you get 1 enemy on screen which kinda sucks having to work only on one enemy at a time and at such a slow pace, it gets monotonous and boring and also, having 3 enemies makes the game lag. The other 1/10 again, the SNES relies on gimmicks and uses something like mini explosions which i commend on the snes that they at least use their strengths in visual effects on their games, but I’m not much into sacrificing gameplay for gimmicks. True the genesis does sometimes drop enemies 1 at a time but usually it’s 2 and you can move on much faster towards the next set of enemies which helps because though you may have encountered just one, the other set is already waiting for you. Also, AI is kinda stupid on Battlemaniacs, many times, they will literally kill themselves by running and falling off cliffs or standing on top of a disappearing platform. Though the sprites may be bigger on the snes, due to higher resolution, they look clunky and kinda dumb, i don’t like it when they are so big they make the overworld look so small, the Genesis version has them at proper sprite to world ratio despite not having such awesome resolution as the snes. As for the lack of levels on Battlemaniacs, the “give me 6 levels anyday” over 12, just make em longer, I don’t know, I’d much rather have variety over longer levels. I really don’t see the bonus levels as an excuse for lack of more levels, and maybe 12 could be overdoing it, but perhaps about 9 levels and the bonuses would have been great balance for a game. Also I get that the Difficulty is on the high end with the Battletoads games especially on the NES and Genesis versions, but this should bring up the question of who the targeted audience for this game was. If anyone was familiar with NES battletoads, we all know the games is and should be damn hard and that’s what we expect, so that’s also not much of an excuse to say one is better than the other, it’s Battletoads, it’s expected and we want hard, we want that sense of a milestone accomplishment when we beat it, there’s many things that you learn to do as you gain experience on the game, like timing the jumps on the snake, figuring out where the air platforms will appear on the turbotunnel, timing the punch on the rat in the rat race, Battletoads is for a specified audience and should have been a point when speaking about Battletoads that was not taken into consideration. So in conclusion, though it doesn’t really change anything, I’d take Genesis Battlemaniacs over Battlemaniacs any day. It might not be as visually detailed as Battlemaniacs, but the gameplay is where it’s at for me, smoother frame drawing which leads to smoother gameplay, less gimmicks, more levels and that difficulty the Battletoads audience likes. But yeah, missing that pause beat is unforgivable! 😬
Now that I think about it, there was an actual toad who appeared in the Mario games: Wart from "Super Mario Bros. 2"! ;)
That wise-cracking toad is funny as hell.
I have a question how many tines do I have to keep on watching?
I love when there's a new Console Wars!
How about an episode in which Greg is Sega, and Dan Super Nintendo. The ending could be that it's a nightmare Greg is having. Periodically during the episode when he is defending the Sega game, he could be like, "What am I saying?" or "Did I just say that?" when bashing the Super Nintendo.
Could be a bart's nightmare episode
they kind of did that already but not for a full episode
Have to love any month we get a new avgn and console wars
One interesting thing about the NES pause music-it’s actually not written by David Wise. Perhaps that’s why it’s omitted in the Genesis version.
Please do "TMNT Turtles in Time" (SNES) vs. "TMNT Hyperstone Heist" (Genesis).
hyperstone heist get's washed and im a fan of both games. they need to do SOR2 vs Turtles in time. Those are the 2 best console beat em ups ever
They already do that
What a lot of people forget is that we compare different games all the time. They just have different names. It's fine to compare different games, as long as they're not done to determine which system is better, which this video does not do. This is not official or somehow binding. It's a funny RUclips show. The games are similar enough, use the same intellectual property, and came out close enough. In the end, it's just a comparison of two games. There's no meaning or implication beyond that. I thought it was very fair as well.
Console Wars, in contrast to some other commenters, I agree with the conclusion of best sound. In this case, I think both games have good music. I do like FM synth, and the game has more songs in it as you said. I didn't like all the sample choices on the SNES side. Sometimes, SNES music sounds disjointed, or not cohesive. Some of it sounded quite good though. It didn't sound muffled like a lot of SNES stuff. I like the SNES sound effects more. Very nice work on the video. I really liked the frog puppet(IT'S A TOAD!!!!).
This guy gets it!
I agree. This is one of my favorite RUclips channels!
Good job guys. Haven't played Battlemanics.
This is a tough one. I like 'em both. And the music is especially hard to choose, since both games are composed by David Wise. Ultimately, though, I think you guys got it right. And I gotta say, awesome episode. I was totally a Genie weenie growing up (and still, from time to time...)
Thanks! Music was tough, but I think the Sega was a little better.
You did a great frickin' job, Greg and Dan. I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work, dude. *High five ✋*
P.S. Have you ever try Double Dragon on Genesis vs Super Double Dragon on SNES, Dan or Greg?
High five! We'll look into it!
pietje bel Who the fuck cares, nigga? Give those guys a chance and you might be surprised, fool! You better shut up.
P.S. I'm talking about talking about the north America version of Double Dragon on Genesis vs. Super Double Dragon on SNES.
I'm very interested in seeing a comparison between the Addams Family game for SNES/Genesis
They both suck
A Genie came out of a Game Genie? O.O
That's a first!!
Yup this show just keeps getting better and better! Keep up the good work guys!!
Thanks man! Def a character we want to bring back in the future.
man, there would not be much of a show without xavier the lycan!
Missed you guys!!!
It was a busy month but we made it!
Best intro music on RUclips, seems to get better every time!
Glad you like it!
Even though these games are drastically different it's kinda unfair. I'm just glade to finally have a new episode, FINALLY!!! Thank you guys!
The final verdict was closer than you think. I hope you enjoyed it!
I always do! I appreciate your videos!
So basicly this is SNES vs NES remake.
This was pretty much the last Rareware game made for the Sega Genesis. Could you imagine if Sega bought them instead of Nintendo? I honestly think Sega would still be making consoles. Their contributions to the success of the SNES were invaluable.
I’d say even more important for N64!
@@Khameleon269 Definitely. They made twice as many games for the N64. Imagine if the Saturn got Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, or Jet Force Gemini. Imagine if they were given the job of making a Sonic game for the Saturn!
Great video, guys! However, I felt sad for the toad dying at the end. :(
Keep up the great work, Console Wars. I can't wait to see your next videos!
He didn't die. He's just very hurt. Feel better?
Not even close one this one. 👍
It was actually very close. The first draft of the script had Sega win. After a few more playthroughs I released more levels didn't mean better game.
Console Wars I can tell that winning the gameplay category accounts for more than the others. Could we possibly see the worth of each category soon?
Yeah, I agree that the quality over quantity approach is the way the go. It isn't something that folks do very often, which can be annoying.
I had to pause the video for a moment when Dan said "The sega genesis game was ported in 1993 by arc system works".
The best episode so far, it's a shame it felt somehow unfair since the comparison should be made between the nes and the sega versions not the snes and sega versions.
The Invaders' sketch made me cry, Dan, Greg you guys are the best.
I'd like to see the Game Genie's rage in more episodes
At the end it is a 16bit war and if Sega decided to do a remake of an 8bit game instead of an original game I think that was just a commercial move (I'm not sure if it was the best but that was Sega's move)
Funny how when the SNES beats Sega Genesis people complain it's unfair.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Comparing between generations would a pointless waste of everybody's time. The Genesis hardware was 7 years newer than the Famicom hardware.
I don't see this video as comparing "two different games". Because yeah, comparing a port of an NES game to a SNES game that acts as a sort of remake/sequel, could seem a little unfair.
But I interpreted this video as: Which console has the best Battletoads experience. Both games had Double Dragon Battletoads, so the next step in deciding which console had the better Battletoads experience would come down to Battletoads on Genesis vs Battlemaniacs on SNES. That's how I saw this video. As if it were responding to a kid in the 90s who wanted a Battletoads game, but didn't know which console to buy.
Nice work guys! It would be sweet if you did a "making of" video sometime.
Def wanna make that for one episode.
Great episode. Ok, if you're gonna these games, then you gotta do Super Double Dragon (SNES) vs. Double Dragon (GEN)
So, what WILL be the next episode? What does Danny DeVito have to do with it?
I'm stumped.
Vahan Nisanian Danny Devito was the penguin so batman? No, sorry.
It's kind of a pictionary clue (sound it out). That's his character Frank from Always Sunny. I'll leave the rest to you. Good luck!
Thank God someone else in the comments figured it out, lol. Frankenstein. Makes sense for October.
Hey guys, you forgot one thing for Battlemaniacs on SNES, in the Hollow Tree bonus stage where you fight the flies. The flies can give you a life if you hit the fly 5 times. Here's how.... Hit 1 one of them then hit the same fly that you just hit it, keep bashing it 5 times or more then you get a life, it's kinda tricky because they go down quick after hitting it you need to keep your timing just right bros.
This was a blowout. Great video as always, and the puppets always make me laugh.
Also, the genie stuff was hilarious
Glad you enjoyed it!
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They're so dumb, I love it!
This guy gets it!
Ah, you're s man of culture I see?
thanks to this video, i kinda want to buy the SNES version, i had no idea it was this great,
yes short, but great, i also love the big sprites (unlike some people's comments), i will look on it on E-bay some time soon i think
thank u consolewar ,u are always makes amazing video ,keepup
2:30 Star Fox is a good one. Slippy, one of Fox's allies, is a toad. Toads are amphibians that like to sit or rely on mushrooms. They look like frogs, but unlike frogs, they don't rely on water or rain. The mushroom men species from Super Mario Bros. are named Toad, which explains the theming.
You guys are so campy. I love you guys! Haha
Glad you enjoy!
Have you considered modding your Genesis and SNES to get better picture quality out of them?
Wait, I legitimately thought you guys were joking about the sound on the Sega being better here and then you _actually_ gave it the best sound. XD
Any question that eliminates half of your options is very helpful in Guess Who.
I'll take a port of the original every time
Cool, you prefer a game where 99% of the population don't make it past the 3rd level.
@@mr.b9613 Skill issue
@@falksi3182 I passed the turbo tunnel multiple times dude
@@mr.b9613 I was referring to the 99% you were talking about.
You know, this talk about 8 and 16 bits made me think of "Batman Return/Revenge of the Joker", which sucked so badly on the Genesis and the SNES but was really good on the NES! Maybe you could do something interesting with that, it'd be epic to have an 8-bit game being directly compared to its 16-bit counterparts and beating both!
If you can play it, I highly recommend the Japanese version of Battletoads. It's a LOT easier.
The SNES version looks more akin to the Arcade version, just less violent, than the NES/Genesis version.
I bought a Genesis on launch day, and I loved it. This all changed when I bought the Super Nintendo, though. My younger brother was a hardcore Genesis gamer, and we would argue back and forth over who had the better version of each game. This would eventually change when Mortal Kombat II released for both systems. After playing the Super Nintendo version, my brother sold his Genesis collection to buy a Super Nintendo. The rest became history, as they say.
It's good to know I'm not the only one who likes these videos,by the way can u guys do other consoles
for me the missing 50 % of the original game is a deal breaker about Battlemaniacs, so i can't call it a better game. On the hand, even though i'm rather a sega megadrive fan boy, i can't tell that those farts that the megadrive version of the game has are better than the music on the snes version. i'll pick the original nes or snes soundtrack over it any day.
Skyk0rn love console wars. You guys are great
You didn't like the Genesis music? And you're a fanboy? That soundtrack rocks!
sorry, but not. it's sounds very butchered and mediocre in compare with the nes original. there're games with a good soundtrack on the megadrive, but this one isn't one of them.
Skyk0rn what ever you do, stick with the nes version, do not buy the genesis. It is highly gimped. Take it from a guy who has legitimately beat both games without cheats.
I see Dan's rocking that new sega shirt. Great vid guys cant wait for the next one.
This goes out to Dan and Greg saying you two did an amazing presentation with these two games. But these comment sections are fucking insulting. People seem to be taking this whole thing very seriously over nothing. It's only comedy and opinions and you got trolls fighting in the comments. Over comparing and contrasting two games!
They do such an entertaining show I wish they made more than one a month. Great job guys.
Thanks!
Brilliant video as always, although SNES should get the win for music. The Nintendo tunes are far superior. Love the comedy too. Thanks guys, keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the kind words!
Agreed I prefer snes better cause it makes you sound badass XD
It is an ill comparison, both are different games.Should be tied
You can't compare a port and a remake.
Battlemaniacs is not a remake. It is a sequel.
jtmally9681 wrong isn't not a sequel says so right here
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battletoads_in_Battlemaniacs
Sofir Uddin they're kinda both ports though only one just more of a hd upgrade port of the BattleToads arcade game and the other is a port of the nes game
matt ford see that's a bit unfair, arcade graphics are always pretty good, if the nes one is a port then it's a port of a port which undoubtedly won't give great comparison.
Yes you can and they did. You literally watched it happen lol
That game genie at the end cracked me up! DSP excuses with an Arnie impression! Fantastic
AVGN and Console Wars need to unite!!
He once compared both Beavis and Butt-Head games, and he said they BOTH suck! And they both got destroyed in the same manner!
I will say, I prefer the toads to be the same size, so regarding the sprites, I gotta give it up for the Genesis...but man...that music is SOOOOOO much better on the SNES Battlemaniacs game. David Wise wrote some rocking tunes for that OST. Also, the SNES was more impressive visually. The bowling stage is tremendous to look at, very eye catching. Love your skits and the work that you put into it. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man! And i liked you last episode of Pixteltunes Radio. Ys III is one of my favorite soundtracks.
Console Wars awesome! Glad you dug it. I loved your Ys 3 episode as well. :)
Beating noobs has to wait for 21 minutes.
New console wars episode booooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiisss
Those remaining 8 seconds is for preparing to beat more noobs, am I right?
Awesome episode, guys :)
juice hedgehog Thanks!
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never had diarrhea from bud light lime, sounds like a you problem
Wait....Isn't PIMPLE supposed to be the Yellow one?
Wait... what?? Are u really comparing two different games?
They're more similar than you might think.
They've done that many times.
@@ConsoleWars lol Based off the clear victory they're not they're similar
Great video, I didn't even know about the SNES version.
Also I agree Battletoads becomes more of a chore with 12 hard levels. Cutting half the levels seems like a good idea
Thanks man!
There's a satisfaction in losing. Why do you have to beat the game to be happy? More levels means more to love. Once you beat the game then it's over which leaves an inner sadness. Lol.. Losing means more challenge awaits!
i want a genie
He's not good at video games.
Seems Like an Over-Powered Game Genie at first... Only to find out that he is useless😤
Excellent, hilarious video, guys!!! I commend you both if you beat the race track level! Oh, my God -- that level is damn-near impossible to beat... O_O
I used a game genie. lol