I really love talking about the things you mentioned , but I always get so disappointed in how ignorant I am , I used to like reading when I was young , but it decreased and one of the reasons is that I have such a horrible long time memory which , I got go know , is normal for istps , I hate it , I forget almost everything I read , damn .
I feel the same about having difficulty finding people who know more than me who can teach me about topics I find interesting. Also, it’s really annoying that I feel like you said...like ok the one teaching others and rarely can I can anything from the interaction. I also agree that it’s important to be skeptical of what others know and what information is valid form them. Most people talk like they’re experts and know nothing basically, but when other people listen to them they think it’s all true and don’t question anything. This is the problem with religions for example...people aren’t skeptical enough to question the people who have taught them these things. Thank you for posting this video. Stay curious, keep growing, and live an “examined life” 🥰☺️
I can feel lonely with people around. The more people, the lonelier I feel, and the more I detect myself becoming the shallow social animal that I find irritating in other people. What I want to be less lonely isn't to just be around people. Occasionally, and very rarely in my experience, one gets to connect with 1 or 2 on a more honest level - people who are not mere acquaintances and are actually friends and who you value and for whom you are special enough to assign you a significant portion of their time and effort to engage in deep communication and understanding. It was disappointing to realize that most people do not want to take a step like that and are happier just relating the latest gossip, or political fluff, or their likes in cars or fashion, or sports statistics, or the weather, etc. So many who I have met actively recoil from anything deeper (why they think that? what is the reason for their like/dislike? how do they see a solution to that? what is the purpose in that? why does that have value?). Some do not want anything to do with interactions that require thinking or looking at the premises they've absorbed from somewhere or someone - they seem frightened and walk away at the slightest suggestion. As for social interaction, I think skepticism - of others and of my own thinking - is a good thing. Trust - again of others or of my own conceptions - can get me into trouble, but paradoxically it is necessary if one is to ever to have someone regard you as their favorite person or true friend and someone who will trust you. Romantic idealization coupled with trust always disappoints - even when you think everyone is understanding each other equally. Trust betrayed hurts even when I logically can work out the reasons it happened. Just listening to you, and reflecting upon my thoughts about what you had said, gives me some hints on why others can see me as being taking too much effort. So, I can be briefly the social butterfly that people want at their parties, but I quickly fade into a corner and observe or leave as soon as possible. Making friends is the most difficult thing for me. Although confidence increases with age, people do become caught up in their cliques and preconceptions, so opportunities for connections decrease - you should value your time in college because of the environment has more opportunities for engaging in significant dialog.
I can absolutely relate to everything you just said. Hearing others have a similar experience is very therapeutic for me. Thank you for taking the time to express all of that.
@@MaleINTP To what extent are you practical? Now I’m starting to see the procrastination bit where INTPs actually struggle to put things into practice, maybe even starting something too, I try to use more of my S function, but I still tend to abandon things. IXTP is a mixed bag. But I’m like maybe INTPs don’t even start or reach that point. And much prefer N. Maybe that’s why they’re less likely to study or practice anything, because they already feel like they understand something. There’s a whole spectrum.
@@MaleINTP This must be Se polar. Unwilling to put an idea into reality and keeping things abstract. One thing is that I’m not a mechanic, but get into things that are more technical. But yeah this cleared some more things up. However, maybe it’s information that you can’t do anything with. It’s not as expansive in its practical options. I get myself into math and science+ some random stuff. This is Se trickster lol. 😇 1. Not actually doing anything with the stuff you’ve learned or following through. 👀 2. Has too many conceptualizations and can’t get to the point (in anything). 3. Actually thinking you’re practical, it’s been a perplexing topic. Seeing some of the stuff I have as useful, but not. 4. Your stuff will pretty much remain an idea 5. Thinking you dance good (in your head), but you actually dance bad (in reality). 6. Struggles to make things fact, everything has always been an idea. 7. Fictional with the things they do or say Practical- useful to me as knowledge Practical- The knowledge is realized
I really love talking about the things you mentioned , but I always get so disappointed in how ignorant I am , I used to like reading when I was young , but it decreased and one of the reasons is that I have such a horrible long time memory which , I got go know , is normal for istps , I hate it , I forget almost everything I read , damn .
I have an ok memory I guess. I can remember things that interest me easily but can't memorize anything boring.
I feel the same about having difficulty finding people who know more than me who can teach me about topics I find interesting. Also, it’s really annoying that I feel like you said...like ok the one teaching others and rarely can I can anything from the interaction.
I also agree that it’s important to be skeptical of what others know and what information is valid form them. Most people talk like they’re experts and know nothing basically, but when other people listen to them they think it’s all true and don’t question anything. This is the problem with religions for example...people aren’t skeptical enough to question the people who have taught them these things.
Thank you for posting this video.
Stay curious, keep growing, and live an “examined life” 🥰☺️
I can feel lonely with people around. The more people, the lonelier I feel, and the more I detect myself becoming the shallow social animal that I find irritating in other people. What I want to be less lonely isn't to just be around people. Occasionally, and very rarely in my experience, one gets to connect with 1 or 2 on a more honest level - people who are not mere acquaintances and are actually friends and who you value and for whom you are special enough to assign you a significant portion of their time and effort to engage in deep communication and understanding. It was disappointing to realize that most people do not want to take a step like that and are happier just relating the latest gossip, or political fluff, or their likes in cars or fashion, or sports statistics, or the weather, etc. So many who I have met actively recoil from anything deeper (why they think that? what is the reason for their like/dislike? how do they see a solution to that? what is the purpose in that? why does that have value?). Some do not want anything to do with interactions that require thinking or looking at the premises they've absorbed from somewhere or someone - they seem frightened and walk away at the slightest suggestion.
As for social interaction, I think skepticism - of others and of my own thinking - is a good thing. Trust - again of others or of my own conceptions - can get me into trouble, but paradoxically it is necessary if one is to ever to have someone regard you as their favorite person or true friend and someone who will trust you. Romantic idealization coupled with trust always disappoints - even when you think everyone is understanding each other equally. Trust betrayed hurts even when I logically can work out the reasons it happened. Just listening to you, and reflecting upon my thoughts about what you had said, gives me some hints on why others can see me as being taking too much effort. So, I can be briefly the social butterfly that people want at their parties, but I quickly fade into a corner and observe or leave as soon as possible. Making friends is the most difficult thing for me. Although confidence increases with age, people do become caught up in their cliques and preconceptions, so opportunities for connections decrease - you should value your time in college because of the environment has more opportunities for engaging in significant dialog.
I can absolutely relate to everything you just said. Hearing others have a similar experience is very therapeutic for me. Thank you for taking the time to express all of that.
Why do you think that we walk around the house and talk to ourselves?
I do that while thinking about my stuff. It helps me think and make connections.
@@MaleINTP To what extent are you practical?
Now I’m starting to see the procrastination bit where INTPs actually struggle to put things into practice, maybe even starting something too, I try to use more of my S function, but I still tend to abandon things.
IXTP is a mixed bag.
But I’m like maybe INTPs don’t even start or reach that point. And much prefer N. Maybe that’s why they’re less likely to study or practice anything, because they already feel like they understand something.
There’s a whole spectrum.
@@Enygma5011 I'm very little practical. I contemple about doing stuff instead of doing them
@@MaleINTP This must be Se polar. Unwilling to put an idea into reality and keeping things abstract. One thing is that I’m not a mechanic, but get into things that are more technical. But yeah this cleared some more things up. However, maybe it’s information that you can’t do anything with. It’s not as expansive in its practical options. I get myself into math and science+ some random stuff. This is Se trickster lol.
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1. Not actually doing anything with the stuff you’ve learned or following through. 👀
2. Has too many conceptualizations and can’t get to the point (in anything).
3. Actually thinking you’re practical, it’s been a perplexing topic. Seeing some of the stuff I have as useful, but not.
4. Your stuff will pretty much remain an idea
5. Thinking you dance good (in your head), but you actually dance bad (in reality).
6. Struggles to make things fact, everything has always been an idea.
7. Fictional with the things they do or say
Practical- useful to me as knowledge
Practical- The knowledge is realized
@@MaleINTP Do you ever devote your life to understanding a particular system that you find complex?