3 BODY PROBLEM The San-Ti Explained | What They REALLY Look Like And Want
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- 3 BODY PROBLEM The San-Ti Explained | What They REALLY Look Like And Want. We explain and spoil the Trisolaran/San-Ti's true face and how the war against humanity ends. This includes book spoilers, talks about the Dark Forest and the true horror of space.
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down 3 Body Problem.
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The new Netflix show presents a threat for humanity that at this point is the biggest threat it's ever faced. But there's very little that we actually know about them and in this video that's what I wanna discuss.
This will go over what they really look like and also what happens in the war. I will save that until the end of the video though and give you a heads up before we get into it.
Obviously Heavy Spoilers ahead and this will cover things from the book that haven't happened in the series yet. So if you don't wanna know then be away you bugs and if you're joining me then use your brain to hit the thumbs up. With that out the way, thank you for clicking this now let's get into 3 Body Problem.
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Ok so the San-ti go by a different name in the book where they're known as the Tri-solarans.
Solar of course means sun and Tri means 3 which ties into the universe they come from. Still though we learn very little about them and don't even really know what they look like.
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No!! No!! No!! I want futuristic never before seen alien type xeno's not little water bugs. I read the books imagining them so scary and advanced in spacesuits or mad energy type creatures. Apart from that I absolutely love these series and books. Cheers Paul.👍🏽
Big ups Def.💯👊🏾
Also Quinns ideas is the absolute first place to go for sci-fi and especially Dune and 3body.
This is by far the hardest thing not to say to my brother, he stopped after book 2 and i have read them all. It's something that lingers when he talks through his thoughts about the show and its so hard not to blurt that the main series doesn't give a physical description
Thanks for shouting out Quinn. ❤
I feel the need to point out "Trisolarans" is pretty much a simple translation of "San-Ti."
And I don't see why the San-Ti would feel bad about their size. They are a highly advanced technological species, and their size has allowed them to survive. Sounds like projecting human attitudes onto someone else.
I don't think The Dark Forest makes much sense. Among other things it presumes no friendly contact between different civilizations EVER, that everyone sooner or later begins thinking in terms of resources which will take billions of years to use up to the degree they fear homicidal terror at "losing" this race for resources, that entire civilizations (pretty much all of them) will act with total uniformity and without effective active dissent vis-a-vis genocide forever, that all civilizations in fact demand growth at all costs (there have been human civilizations that absolutely rejected this, and I mean long-lasting major ones), etc.
Also, I love Quinn’s Ideas. He’s been my go to source for Science Fiction for 3+ years & the sole reason I got into this incredible series of books!
Yeah guys channel is amazing
Same, dude works his tale off and is worth the watch
Yea he be og syfi
Such a great dude to spend time with, everyone subscribe to Quinn
Yeah that dude puts out really great vids. He's rad.
Douglas Adams had an anecdote with a similar premise: a vast armada of hostile aliens were heading for Earth on a centuries long journey . When they arrived and began the invasion, due to a massive miscalculation of scale, the entire fleet was swallowed by a small dog.
Love that little bit from the novel. Big fan of the whole series.
Yeah, good comedy. Hence why it would be so silly and laughable if they actually introduce such tiny bug aliens in the show, LOL! It would completely change the tone for me.
@@Zeetana1 I love the idea that they're microscopic. Why would it change the tone? Viruses have killed millions of people on Earth.
I love that moment! Totally applicable to this book.
an armada of alien spaceships
destroyed by hydrochloric acid 🤣
Nice one shouting out Quinn's Ideas, his channel is next level for sci-fi / horror content, check him out!
Love his channel and this one.
Agreed. Quinns Idea's channel is amazing. I just found it, while looking for info on this show and I was blown away by how great his content is on the books, the show, as well as other Sci-fi stuff like DUNE
My favorite Sci-Fi RUclipsr
Same, glad he mentioned him. I remember watching his take on the 3 body problem as well.
Glad to see the crossover of Quinn fans here excited for the shout out. Found him after watching Dune and helping me get immersed into that world as well.
Same
Your shoutout for Quinn’s Ideas channel is a great reflection on your own channel - which I also watch loyally! Keep the vids coming and best wishes for your RUclips success and DadLife(TM) ;)
thank you man, much appreciated
“Oh sorry, Tatiana. I think I accidentally stepped on your Lord…”
Actually a cockroach in the ships galley...cockroaches are hard to kill though...
I believe at one point in the main books they are described as having glass-like see through bodies that are moldable and allow you to literally see their thoughts.
Combine that with the spin off description, as being tiny and bug like creatures that can dehydrate at will, you have a pretty decent idea.
I like the glass like description but that bug like size is shit... Maybe increase their size
@@pthespidey5057 It's not shit when you think about how small creatures (viruses, bacteria) already kill us in the real world.
@@pthespidey5057 🤣🤣🤣 so if we discover that the aliens are like bugs or like octopus (the Arrival), humanity shouldn't take aliens with a warning?
So glad to see Quinn’s Ideas get a shout out. Every sci-fi fan should be watching his content.
Bugs are nearly IMMPOSSIBLE to wipe out!
If one of use survives we all do
@@mikelampt2418not true, unless you're a species that reproduces via binary fission🤣.
Look up "bottlenecks" r/t extinction events...usually doesn't end well. Which is why historically, women weren't sent off to war
@@mikelampt2418use?
Excellent 10min summary!!! so many other drag this stuff out for hours... well done!!
I love Quinn's ideas! So cool to see you shout him out as well. I found him once the first dune trailer dropped and have been a fan since.
1:47 Ask any pest control agent exterminating cockroaches and they'll always say, _"If one survives they all survive."_
I was talking about cockroaches the other day. I've never actually seen one myself but apparently they are really hard to kill perfectly adapted for survival. And they stink according to my elderly parents.
@@antonycharnock2993"apparently" umm or just simply look up cockroaches on Google You weird one
1. They need to "rehydrate" to be awaken from a dormant state
2. They have a hive mind "if one survives, we all survive..." which also explains why every new cycle, they start out more advanced than their previous cycle.
3. Bugs have been a theme this entire first season
Conclusion:
The aliens look like actual BUGS, only highly evolved 'bugs' who have similar features as the bugs on earth.
And because of the hive mind, if only one alien survives, they all survive in that actual sense because they are one hive mind.
What annoyed me a bit, was when Evans was reading a fairy tale and other stories to the aliens, as if he's been doing this all along and only "now" they started to ask questions?
Didn't the "Sophons" (their spies) not see that humanity lies constantly and shouldn't been a surprise for them when Evans revealed humans could lie...? With every confict going on on the planet and so much more...?
The "hive mind" shoudn't be like human civilizations, but it should have been a "culture shock" once their Sophons arrived on earth, but instead they already knew "how" humanity was, but not yet knew they deceived eachother? Hard to believe...
Yeah. I struggled with that. It's not like the Sophons couldn't access an entire history worth of human knowledge
They aren’t actually a Hive Mind. They just communicate via showing their thoughts as light.
They also can’t read thoughts, wich is why they jsut assumed that when a human says one thing and does another, they just changed their mind. Not to mention the Sophons aren’t actually omnipresent. They jsut swoosh around between important sites, they aren’t listening on in normal people constantly.
The 3-Body TV series likely accelerated the pace and condensed the plot, making it seem as though Sophon had been on Earth for an extended period, rather than just arriving a month prior to the scientists' deaths. Moreover, the series introduces a plot hole by portraying Sophon as an overpowering AI without realistic constraints, leaving viewers wondering why it doesn't just solve problems directly.
"You wouldn't like it."
Anyone get creeped out by that line?
Not really. Imagine how we appear to the San-Ti
@@antonycharnock2993 i guess its just neat that they would admit that. I kind of hope we never see them.
@@cernstormrunner7263 I think it's an open admission that they see their physical form as inferior.
What they achieved as a species is remarkable and borderline impossible in a system like that, but physically they're weak and easily destroyed
Honestly, the scariest part isn't that our solar system is destroyed. It's HOW it's destroyed. Absolutely horrifying and nothing I could've imagined before I read the series.
Wasn’t it described as being unpainful?
@@reguluscircuslol
That's one of the most spectacular scenes I've ever read, and can't wait to see it play out on the screen 😮
@@shazanali8551 answer the question lmao I read the books and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t painful
I've just finished The Dark Forest and found out what "The Spell" was...
San-Ti is the name used in the Chinese version of the book, so its still accurate.
san means 3 in mandarin. ti might be a simplified version of sun: Tàiyáng
Ti means object@@badrequest5596
@@badrequest5596 it has a weird double meaning of 'saints' in Italian too which i presume to be accidental but possibly not
"Ti" in Mandarin actually translates to "body" (mass).... so San-Ti = Three-Body ...
@@tonyprohaska interesting 🤔
The Santi don't know deception yet deception is exactly how the Santi mess with human science. Shout out to Quinn too!
They weren’t being deceptive. They were doing it but just didn’t say anything. Everything happened right in front of scientists eyes but don’t know what is happening which took a while for them to catch on. Also how can we expect them to announce they are there when that is just our understanding of what an intelligent species would do if they don’t know deception.
@@shinbi6009 Exactly. Deceiving would have been leading us to the wrong answers rather than our sabotage. Much worse, we wouldn't even know it was happening.
@@sharpsheep4148 Nah, deception is also not relaying important information to others. Its not necessarily a big lie, but simply withholding information is also a deception. Before the big bad wolf, it seemed that the aliens would have coexisted with us, this is simply a lie. They say, they cant lie, but they are literraly the wolf and the humans are the red hood. The metaphor of the wolf and red hood is perfect for the aliens and humans. Later the aliens even call us bugs, like how Mike called his enemies just bugs.
The first alien sent a message, DO NOT ANWSER, WE WILL CONQUER YOU.
Then the fkin aliens pretend to be friendly. This tv show was kind of garbage with all the plot holes and stupid characters.
I think deception. The sofons are not part of our current scientific paradigm. So to me, them using the sofons to change the sky and the collider readings “leans” toward being deceitful. The sky and readings are false imagery….they are liars who don’t like liars 🤔
Ok guys. This not being deceptive is really leaning hard on the "You never asked me if I had kids." 😂😂😂
I think the most heads up you could give about spoiler is already at the name of the channel! Loved the adding part of the little heart attack tho hahahahha thanks for the content!
Now I understand why they got upset by the “pests” remark. He offended them and told them we squish tiny organisms.
What scene was this?
@@romixfox4287 in the scene when is is speaking to “Lord” he tells them the people that oppose there cult are pests. I’m not completely sure on the actual wording. It is also when they say they are scared of us because we can lie after the he read them little red riding hood.
@@GlobeHard aww yeah gotta watch this scene again! All dots are connected 🤯
Great video as always Paul and a huge shoutout for recommending Quinn's channel. I absolutely love it. I also love the fact that you help to promote it despite it being looked at as a potential competitor. For that, you have my deep respect sir. Have a great day.
Really nice of you to talk about Quinn’s Ideas channel 👏👏👏. His video are great
Quinn is my go-to chan for Dune and Foundation as well :)
Great analysis of their psychology and society. Also excellent economy of words. You informed a lot in quite a small amount of time, very nice!
Absolutely love the idea of them being so tiny.
@UCmakQ_8FIxs7b1tJUHG4E_g Thank you, I really appreciate that. Love this channel and energy is awesome.
Quinn's Ideas is one of the best RUclips channels out there!!
Excellent! Yes, I brgan to suspect they were bug-like due to those clues, too. Tardigrades are cool!
Thanks for your Shout-Out to Quinn, he does give very detailed & astute analysis’s on the 3 Body Problem both the books and both the series, Tenent’s (Chinese), & Netflix’s.
Shout out to Quinn’s Ideas!
THIS
Yup he's the one that showed me these books.
A legend
Was able to meet him back in July 2019 at Con of thrones . He is the most kind hearted and positive person! If you go to his channel he has amazing indepth break downs of the series!
Quinn is the best! I’ve found so much good sci-fi content through his channel. His TBP stuff is awesome, and so are his Dune videos.
It always bums me out that the RUclips algorithm does such a poor job of surfacing such awesome creators.
Quinn is great. Glad you gave him a shout-out.
Great recommendation on Quinn's ideas, i've been enjoying his videos.
It's because of Quinn I got into the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy. His videos on the Dune books are also killer 🤘🏻
I found Quinn’s Ideas directly after watching the show. Amazing insight and breakdowns.
Love your shout-out to Quinn!!!
I love that you shouted out Quinn's ideas.
Ive been binging everything on his channel since i watched the show snd he goes into so much detail.
I knew when I saw the title where you got the inspiration from to make this video.
Cheers to other fellow men of culture who are enjoying 3body problem.
Great that they are "insect-sized" or even smaller (near microscopic) and consider humans "bugs"... And it makes sense considering the environmental inconsistencies of their planet...
Nice that a sci-fi series does something other than paint bipedal humans a different color or add bumps/hair/pointy ears and then call them "aliens"....
Anyway, thanks for the nice breakdown as always Paul!!
Thats just a fanfiction that the author complimented. The books imply they’re close to human size - they want to use the buildings and furniture already on Earth.
Yeah Quinns channel is ny favorite, he has the absolute best recommendations and simplifies the stories so anyone can understand
Nice to see that you've been watching videos from "Quinn's Ideas." So have I. I actually didn't discover his channel until sometime during my watch of the Netflix show. Basically, during my watch of the show, I found out that it is based on a book series.
Went looking for videos on the book series and found "Quinn's Ideas". Saw all the videos he had available on this book series, among others. After finishing the Netflix adaptation, I started watching Quinn's videos about the books. By now, I believe I have watched them all, including his 4.5-hour monster of a compilation video.
Incidentally, via Quinn, I found out about the Chinese adaptation called "Three Body". This adaptation is 30 episodes and only consists of the first book in the series. I have been watching it via Amazon Prime, and I am currently on episode 22.
Between the Netflix adaptation and the Chinese adaptation by Tencent, I really am wanting the entire book series to show up in live-action, including the book not written by the original author of the series.
Damm 🫡
"Begrudgingly" cosigned would be a more accurate interpretation of how this "spin-off" book was received by the original author. Enthusiastic? Excited? Happy to do so? Nope, couldnt use any of those terms 🤷🏽♂
Following quin since 3-4 years loved his content
Yeah I was just gonna suggest Quinn! I love this channel but he really gets into the nitty gritty of the books and comparisons. Those books are also DENSE, I read them and his channel helped a lot.
Quinn is the fucking MAN! Got me hooked on this series and MANY others! Definitely worth the sub!
I just wanna say you and new rockstars make the best breakdown content on youtube.
The quality of both your work is always consistent. You both have well thought out theories the only channel that really has you beat in terms of depth is Film Theory.
Perhaps the idea for the Trisolarans was modelled on the G'Gugvuntts and Vl'hurgs from Douglas Adams' Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy (pub 1979). "Due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire (G'Gugvuntts and Vl'hurgs) battle fleet was swallowed by a small dog.". 😄
Quinn is awesome for sure. Love his breakdowns
When I first watched the series and learned about the San-Ti ren’s ability to de- and rehydrate, my first thought was of tardigrades. So then when the San-Ti AI told Wade, “You wouldn’t like it,” when he asked what they really looked like, I couldn’t help thinking how wrong they probably were. Ime, people love water bears; they’re adorable! My kids had tardigrade stuffies when they were little, tardigrades have been on magazine covers and featured all over the media…
I’m so thankful you’ve read the books! It’s my favorite science fiction series. I kinda hope you do a breakdown on HOW much Will buying Jin the Star goes to payoff in the future. That scene had me in literally tears 😭 Will was my favorite, besides Jack/Sam. Also, have you been listening to the official podcast? It’s such a nice bonus.
Should I try the books? I’m so tempted but I thought I heard there was issues with the translation? Maybe that person was wrong, hopefully!
I was utterly fascinated by season 1 and it reminds me lots of other shows I like.
I already know a lot of “spoilers” from future books like what happens with Will, Jin and the star he bought like you mentioned. Even with those spoilers I think I’m gonna try them!
Quinn rocks! Nice shout out!
Enjoyed this series way more than I thought would. Looking forward to season 2.
All that I know about the 3 body problem is thanks to Quinn. He made me fall in love with this book and Dune.
Paul, you're back. Since I'm also Paul, I like hearing: "I'm your hoast Paul" Thanks for the details on the San-TI
Quinn’s ideas is the one who got me into Dune. I didn’t know sht till I watched his videos. Also FilmComicsExplained is another amazing video.
tardigrades ( water bears) are tiny but we couldn’t crush or kill it if we wanted to. 😂😂
180.9 °F
People getting pissed that a channel called heavy spoilers spoiled something for them is senseless
Good on you for shouting out quinns ideas, great channel! Yours is OK too I guess. 😂
Quinn is fantastic
In the book series, they were the size of grains of rice and scurried around like bugs.. The irony!
Thank you
Cheers Paul.
The whole video example you have cracked me up 😂
I smashed the like button BEFORE the smash-joke.
Edit: is season two gonna be far in the future with a new cast or set next year with the same faces? Troubled I am.
I hope its the same cast, I really like some of the characters and their story isn't over. That said, we definitely need to see the future battle at some point, maybe towards the end of the show.
It will be the same cast because DnD were smart enough to include all the main protagonists of the story in season one.
Dope shout-out to Quinn. Subbed to him years ago while looking up some explanations/theories I had after reading Hyperion. (Amazing Sci-Fi series if you're a reader).
After reading Redemption of Time last year I loved that he made their size very small. Knowing Cixin Luo signed off on the work I took everything he wrote as canon. The fact that people what time does not canon just means that they have a problem with that decision and because he's not the original author they feel like they're justified in pretending it's not canon. We've seen giant bug aliens, greys, greens, big purple ones who like arm jewelry but I can confidently say this was the first time I came across an advanced race that was smaller than a grain of rice and I loved it, it fit so well.
Really excited for S2 of this series.
Your amazing dude
We know that they’re shiny too. Highly reflective skins (or exoskeleton) and it’s why their technology is the same. Ie, the virtual headset.
Lowkey expected Quinn to show up here.
Your video is the first I've seen where you mention "Like Button" in the video and a rainbow aura emerged around the like button boxes. Pretty neat!
Quinn's Ideas is usually where I go first for this stuff I'm glad he's getting more recognition ❤
Quinn’s amazing. He's helped me appreciate so may Scifi series, especially Dune. So happy I found his and you channels .
Heard people theorize that they communicated with visual thoughts, and that they have a metallic Shiney skin, so maybe like a cuttlefish with changing skin, but it always displays their true feelings and expresses for them. So lying would be hard if it happens unconsciously
Love the show hope there is more seasons
It’s been said a bunch, but for anything sci-fi, Quinn is the go to
Love Quinn's Ideas.
dude the like button lit up when you siad like button, didn't know that was a thing
Quinn's Ideas!!!!
Nice one with the shout out for Quinns Ideas!
There are some hints that Trisolarans are the size of bugs. That's how they were able to dehydrate and hydrate at will.
What hints? If we want to talk about what Liu Cixin intended, then we must discard 4th book. Then I would say if Trisolarans were that small, their ship sizes would not make sense. Also Yun Tianming having all that room to live (and farm) with them would not make sense eighter. If i remember correctly Trisolaran robots assisted him farming. If they were that small, wouldnt it make sense that their helper robots would be small too?
Okay so a couple things. In the original Chinese book, the aliens are known as the Santi, only in the translated version are they known as the tricelorians. And the aliens were never really described in the original books, it was only in the fan made redemptions of time book that they were described, tho cixin liu did give his blessing on the book so it’s like half cannon. In the show you saw how they made those tiny computers, they first blow the proton to the size of a planet and THEN they create the computer on it, before shrinking it after they are done. So no there’s no evidence still in the show that shows what they look like at all
It's a great book series, but at times, the spin-off's theme didn't align with the original. However, it does describe the San-Ti, and it will be interesting to see what other parts of the spin-off they will use in upcoming shows.
I smell a crossover......please ❤
I love Quinn’s channel too!
Shoutout Quinn's Ideas, very good shiiiiiiiiiiiit
The Earth has been around for 5-8 billion years... and we only started looking for 60 years or so? That's like you are in the ocean and can't see any fish looking at the surface for one second.
This is my favorite analogy for people that say "wtf no aliens?!?!?!"
Then after a long time, and rarely, a shark comes up and eats ya. Not all the time, but eventually
@@didamnesia3575 is this a spoiler !?
@@didamnesia3575 it might be a shark and it could eat you, or it may be a sardine, and you will eat them. That said, it would not surprise me too much if the government made announcement with in our lifetime that there is contact with another lifeform. Be it a probe, alternative dimension, or communications. The pace of human technological advancement has been exponential the last 80 years, and its hard to believe we didn't get a boost at somepoint(s).
I think the point is if advanced alien civilisations exist wouldn't space be full of radio signals. Radio waves become weaker & weaker the further they travel. Maybe if they are that advanced they don't use radio signals and communicate in a way we don't understand. Maybe on a quantum level a bit like the sophons. Or just as scary there might not be any other advanced aliens out there just simple lifeforms. That's science we just don't know until we find out.
Questions.
How do the stars blink?
When the sophon covers the sky, does it leave or is it still there?
man had you not gave quins ideas a shout i was gonna leave a super snarky comment
fucken great vid mate
Quinn is great! What about a team up?
Like the music in the show, especially the main theme and the track Origami Boats
The fact that they are projecting is hilarious 😂
I love spoilers. Cool channel! 😏
"Is this going to be a stand up fight, sir, or another bug hunt??" - Corporal Hicks, Aliens 1986.
Technically not canon but I also really enjoy the interpretation, and clearly cixin did as well
I went to smash the like button, and I accidentally subscribed to sciencetime
Where did the yget those gold helmets from I still cant work that one out
They told humans how to make them? Can basically guide anyone so just need someone who can put two things together
And all of this started because a few line of answers from a one handed woman. How such an, in her mind at that moment, insignificant individual actions became a catalyst for interstellar war(s), near demise of human race, and later, interdimensional war.
A flap of a butterfly wings.
One thing i still dont get, the sophons can apparently show you things, like time counters. Why dont they just make everyone blind?
So many plot holes
Heavy Spoilers and Quinn Ideas need to do a crossover video talking about this or Dune. It would be great
Wow, you truly are the Heavy Spoilers... I was too far in to stop in the video. I have enjoyed this show. There is so much great TV entertainment right now.
Quinn's Ideas is an amazing channel and definitely worth checking if you wanna go down the Three Body Problem rabbit hole.
Big fan of Quinn, big fan of spoiler man.
This is the beginning of something epic