Because as a none gun owner! I am willing to sign any petition recall for any architect involved with this gross violation of our constitutional rights! (As a non firearm owner, you need to make it available to everyone! Not just people going to gun stores...)
This. The legislation affects more than just firearm owners. Have a 3d printer? Congratulations, straight to jail. Even if you use it to print nicknacks or toys or cosplay props or literally anything that can be 3d printed
All gun stores, FFLs and Massachusetts based manufacturers should void all contracts with state and certain local Law enforcement until it is repealed.
Hmmm, just the LEOs that belong to the departments that support this bill. Ware Police Department came right out and blasted the state saying it was unconstitutional.
We voted to cut the state income tax and they didn't do it. To make this ballot be taken seriously we need more than the 100K signatures that Goal wants.
@moushunter. Actually the voters overwhelmingly voted to keep the tax rate increase. The state ran a smear campaign of fear bombarding us with fear commercials about no monies for the education of our children without the higher rate. Total nonsense.
Get the signatures!! Once thus goes in effect it will never go back!! 600k that's all@! This will spread throughout the the land if it is not stopped now!!!
Put this in the petition: "This Bill should be withdrawn until such time the state can publish the total cost to Massachusetts taxpayers, of the litigation / lawyer cost during the next 10 years of fighting for the dozens of unconstitutional laws that are included in the bill". Why is the State house doing this lawfare? Because: Kickbacks. If Democrats know how to do one thing, it's how to launder money.
It's funny, because H.4885 is 95% of the original HD.4420 that drew an unprecedented amount of backlash from Massachusetts residents last summer - so much so that the "house leadership" had to punt on the bill. Those like myself who have followed this process know this bill was not written by the legislature. It is so bad, that the legislature was forced to go dark. And when the compromise was reached, had to ram the final vote through in under 12 hours, before anyone could read it. It horrendous and violates at least 5 Supreme Court rulings - but hey, don't get caught up on that - it's now legal for you to buy ammo with an EBT card.
What frustrates me most is that, even if we were to "win", we'd still be one of the worst 2A states to live in. It'd be like recovering a fumble when you're down by 50 points.
I understand but I believe there is hope! I think gun rights and gun control is overall steering in the right direction and it will just take a little bit longer for Mass to catch up!
@@RestrictedAmerica, yes, I'm still hopeful that SCOTUS will someday provide some meaningful relief, but we've been dealing with capacity restrictions and bans for decades here without any. Forgive me if I'm wary that challenges to these new bans will be any more affective.
Unfortunately the democrats in Massachusetts will vote for this gun control bill in November. Any gun owner in Massachusetts don’t think your vote won’t matter, it will matter, even vote against this bill is a vote in the right direction. And sign the petition.
No america's votes don't count or we would get what we want Hillary beat Donald Trump The popular vote donald trump became president Because of the electoral college, our votes don't count Elizabeth warren been an office since 2013 She hasn't been replaced.She does whatever she wants Nobody will stop her Not even your federal government knowing that massachusetts is on the biggest hit list for no guns
This happened in Oregon, and the residents did vote for it still. It was ultimately overturned as unconstitutional, so it's still worth doing, even if it may be a temporary solution.
Oregon didn't have elizabeth warner , who does what she wants We're supposed to be able to vote on things and she took our Assault rifle away.While we were sleeping , we couldn't even vote T's been almost 10 years.Where is the constitution or reversal hasn't happened yet
They have failed before when they tried to pass this much gun control. I think you underestimate the people of Mass for not wanting to give up their rights.
You need to make visible to all MA residents who want to fight for our constitutional rights! Explain it to them! Don't let them bamboozle the unwashed masses!
A person cannot just disagree with a law in order to sue in Court. One must have standing, and in this type of situation, it means some form of damages must have occurred, such as seizure or due process violation, loss of liberty, other damages from the application of a constitutionally vague statute.
First time since Romney. Even Swift was a temp Governor and a Republican and people hated her because she was pro 2A and also her daughters came first. She stepped down to raise her kids.
If Americans use the supremacy clause, article 4 section 2 paragraph 1, second amendment shall not be Infringed clause,9th amendment enumeration clause,10th amendment nor prohibited by it to the states clause,14th amendment section 1 no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states clause along with Title 18 U.S.C. sections 241 conspiracy against rights,242 deprivation of rights under color of law,as well as Title 5 U.S.C. section 7311 Ex. ORD. No. 10450 Subsection (5) they could obliterate all gun laws in the united states of America period.
We need more people involved. We need to talk about it with everyone. This is isn’t a gun issue, this is a rights issue. The more awareness people start having, the more eyes we have watching them. People need to get out of the mindset of helplessness.
Yeah well you could be right, but I'll point out that NY is still F'ing around and we in RI are still restricted to 10 round mags. Maybe in your lifetime by the time you get to my age (70) but don't hold your breath or you won't make 70! :(
What you are missing here is what's happening in the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court. There have been a series of challenges to restrictive guns laws across the country that are bringing the question of the constitutionality to the courts. Many of them are being overturned. The Supreme court is waiting for these lower court rulings to make their way through the system and then will rule on the constitutionality of all these laws. So far the good guys are winning. Massachusetts HR4855 is so poorly written and grossly unconstitutional that it will be overturned. Also many of the previous Massachusetts laws will be found unconstitutional and tossed out. You will be able to purchase an AR-15 legally in Massachusetts, just have patience.
Healey already signed this all into law! She sucks and this state sucks they vote for party here not candidate and with all the damage Healey has done, they will still vote for her again cuz we just don't have the brightest people here in MA!!!
I just sent this follow up question to Kristin at the State Police. I am hoping to get a response sometime today and when I do I will forward it to you. Hello Kristin, 7-31-24 Is there any word yet as to whether or not the old/prior training criteria will/can still be used until the State Police roll out the new training criteria after 8/1? And would the old criteria be valid for 90 days after the bill is signed or valid for as long as it takes for the new criteria to come out? Thank you in advance for your time Kristin. Mark Shean BFS00001552
All senators, congressmen, governor's, judges, president are all state officials elected or appointed to a specific state and therefore prohibited any such authority or jurisdiction to pass or enforce any form of gun laws whatsoever anywhere in the united states of America under the constitution of the united states of America supreme law of the land under Supremacy clause. Article 4 section 2 paragraph 1 The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states. Second amendment shall not be Infringed clause. 9th amendment enumeration clause. 10th amendment nor prohibited by it to the states clause (applies because the shall not be Infringed clause prohibits the state officials from violating the second amendment rights of American citizens). 14th amendment section 1. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states clause. Combined.
I would like to see the local/city/state Police take completely out of the loop ➰ for "So called licensing 🪪"! I'd prefer to see it as an instant check state! The way it should be....
NJ just had their AR15 ban ruled unconstitutional by a federal court. There is some hope.
Massazuela, ASSachusetts, MassaMoscow,
Aaaand shitty NJ will just be defiant and ignore scotus as all of these statist states do.
They don’t care about the constitution in Massachusetts.
Never give up your guns ever God gave you your rights unabile right to protect your family and your self tell the Democrat no way ...
@@commiesnzombiescommusit running Mass unlawful laws never listen to them
I’m ready to sign just say the word #2A
commiecrat dictator tyrants do not care what their lowly subjects think
Because as a none gun owner! I am willing to sign any petition recall for any architect involved with this gross violation of our constitutional rights! (As a non firearm owner, you need to make it available to everyone! Not just people going to gun stores...)
This. The legislation affects more than just firearm owners.
Have a 3d printer? Congratulations, straight to jail. Even if you use it to print nicknacks or toys or cosplay props or literally anything that can be 3d printed
Great commentary! Keep up the good work spreading the news! Stay tuned for big updates over the next few weeks!
Thank you Toby! I will!
All gun stores, FFLs and Massachusetts based manufacturers should void all contracts with state and certain local Law enforcement until it is repealed.
Hmmm, just the LEOs that belong to the departments that support this bill. Ware Police Department came right out and blasted the state saying it was unconstitutional.
We voted to cut the state income tax and they didn't do it. To make this ballot be taken seriously we need more than the 100K signatures that Goal wants.
I agree we need everybody who can to sign this thing!
Actually the fools in our state voted by a very large majority to keep the increased tax rate.
@moushunter. Actually the voters overwhelmingly voted to keep the tax rate increase. The state ran a smear campaign of fear bombarding us with fear commercials about no monies for the education of our children without the higher rate. Total nonsense.
Get the signatures!! Once thus goes in effect it will never go back!! 600k that's all@! This will spread throughout the the land if it is not stopped now!!!
Put this in the petition:
"This Bill should be withdrawn until such time the state can publish the total cost to Massachusetts taxpayers, of the litigation / lawyer cost during the next 10 years of fighting for the dozens of unconstitutional laws that are included in the bill".
Why is the State house doing this lawfare? Because: Kickbacks.
If Democrats know how to do one thing, it's how to launder money.
It's funny, because H.4885 is 95% of the original HD.4420 that drew an unprecedented amount of backlash from Massachusetts residents last summer - so much so that the "house leadership" had to punt on the bill. Those like myself who have followed this process know this bill was not written by the legislature. It is so bad, that the legislature was forced to go dark. And when the compromise was reached, had to ram the final vote through in under 12 hours, before anyone could read it. It horrendous and violates at least 5 Supreme Court rulings - but hey, don't get caught up on that - it's now legal for you to buy ammo with an EBT card.
That's obviously for DemoCRAP street soldiers! (Re: ANTIFA, other Lefty Loon political types...)
LMAO, i might as well try and get an EBT card now
Absolutely agree!
Don't forget drinking and carrying your pistol is fine in this bill, just can't be over .08 which is kinda a lot
Really? Where can you buy ammo with ebt?👁️🙏🏽
What frustrates me most is that, even if we were to "win", we'd still be one of the worst 2A states to live in. It'd be like recovering a fumble when you're down by 50 points.
I understand but I believe there is hope! I think gun rights and gun control is overall steering in the right direction and it will just take a little bit longer for Mass to catch up!
@@RestrictedAmerica, yes, I'm still hopeful that SCOTUS will someday provide some meaningful relief, but we've been dealing with capacity restrictions and bans for decades here without any. Forgive me if I'm wary that challenges to these new bans will be any more affective.
Support from Plymouth..
(They tried to ban nips here a few months ago and the voters repealed the law by initiative petition.)
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Support from western mass 🔥💪
Yes sir!
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Western mass here also 👍
I kno I hate that. I'm from Massachusetts . Worst laws ever
With Bruen in books it’s really only a matter of time before MA gets everything back and then some. Gonna inform my friends about the petition!
Yes this ⬆️!
Need to sign that GOAL petition! Waiting foe it to appear in the local shops or at my range
Yes it should be soon! Waiting on the word from the top dogs!
Hopefully all of us in the community band together do our part and keep fighting this unconstitutional bullshit. Thank you for keeping us updated
No problem, thank you for watching!
Def gonna win just gonna take time
Unfortunately the democrats in Massachusetts will vote for this gun control bill in November. Any gun owner in Massachusetts don’t think your vote won’t matter, it will matter, even vote against this bill is a vote in the right direction. And sign the petition.
Oregon beat there bill
No america's votes don't count or we would get what we want Hillary beat Donald Trump The popular vote donald trump became president Because of the electoral college, our votes don't count Elizabeth warren been an office since 2013 She hasn't been replaced.She does whatever she wants Nobody will stop her Not even your federal government knowing that massachusetts is on the biggest hit list for no guns
This happened in Oregon, and the residents did vote for it still. It was ultimately overturned as unconstitutional, so it's still worth doing, even if it may be a temporary solution.
Oregon didn't have elizabeth warner , who does what she wants We're supposed to be able to vote on things and she took our Assault rifle away.While we were sleeping , we couldn't even vote
T's been almost 10 years.Where is the constitution or reversal hasn't happened yet
They have failed before when they tried to pass this much gun control. I think you underestimate the people of Mass for not wanting to give up their rights.
Keep up the work. Patriots in Monson Mass
Thank you 🫡
You need to make visible to all MA residents who want to fight for our constitutional rights! Explain it to them! Don't let them bamboozle the unwashed masses!
Yes! And we’ll need to get these petitions to more common places as well and not just gun stores!
I hope so!!! We will win.
Yes!!!
A person cannot just disagree with a law in order to sue in Court. One must have standing, and in this type of situation, it means some form of damages must have occurred, such as seizure or due process violation, loss of liberty, other damages from the application of a constitutionally vague statute.
There should be 3 choices: Yes, No and HELL NO!!
I think we should sue for damages!
MA gun owners have already lost with the overnight semi auto ban in 2016
The way a referendum, the way it can be written/worded, a No vote could mean Yes, and vice versa. Be careful to carefully read it.
Yes! That’s Why I’m very interested to see what the plan is for the language
So it’s not just about the second amendment it’s about all rights. If they do away with one what is going to stop them from going after others.
I'm gonna win when i move to NH
When Massachusetts brings in illegally immigrants dont ever give up your guns ever ..
We will win.Have faith in God, he will deliver.
Good job. I understand this process better now!
Glad it helped! Thank you for watching!
Just turned in my paperwork for LTC renewal today. Looking forward to Healey being a one term Governor.
First time since Romney. Even Swift was a temp Governor and a Republican and people hated her because she was pro 2A and also her daughters came first. She stepped down to raise her kids.
If Americans use the supremacy clause, article 4 section 2 paragraph 1, second amendment shall not be Infringed clause,9th amendment enumeration clause,10th amendment nor prohibited by it to the states clause,14th amendment section 1 no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states clause along with Title 18 U.S.C. sections 241 conspiracy against rights,242 deprivation of rights under color of law,as well as Title 5 U.S.C. section 7311 Ex. ORD. No. 10450 Subsection (5) they could obliterate all gun laws in the united states of America period.
We need more people involved. We need to talk about it with everyone. This is isn’t a gun issue, this is a rights issue. The more awareness people start having, the more eyes we have watching them. People need to get out of the mindset of helplessness.
Yeah well you could be right, but I'll point out that NY is still F'ing around and we in RI are still restricted to 10 round mags. Maybe in your lifetime by the time you get to my age (70) but don't hold your breath or you won't make 70! :(
Haha I won’t! Thank you for watching!
What you are missing here is what's happening in the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court. There have been a series of challenges to restrictive guns laws across the country that are bringing the question of the constitutionality to the courts. Many of them are being overturned. The Supreme court is waiting for these lower court rulings to make their way through the system and then will rule on the constitutionality of all these laws. So far the good guys are winning. Massachusetts HR4855 is so poorly written and grossly unconstitutional that it will be overturned. Also many of the previous Massachusetts laws will be found unconstitutional and tossed out. You will be able to purchase an AR-15 legally in Massachusetts, just have patience.
Yes!!! I’ll definitely try to do some videos on those cases, because I feel like not enough people in Mass share your optimism!
Boy it would be nice to buy a brand new AR for under a grand. I wonder if anything will be done about mag capacity??
@@RestrictedAmerica I'd rather be optimistic than pessimistic. I want to get that Colt AR-15A4 before I die.
Because the law is unconstitutional
Plaintiff and simple
Healey already signed this all into law! She sucks and this state sucks they vote for party here not candidate and with all the damage Healey has done, they will still vote for her again cuz we just don't have the brightest people here in MA!!!
Ik! there’s still hope of overturning this though!
How do I sign the petition? Please it’s very important for me to sign!!
It’s going to be in person! They havnt sent them out yet but they’ll be at local gun shops/ranges + clubs/leagues!
good information keep up the good work
Thank you! And thank you for watching!
So do I need to call a gun shop? How do I sign the petition? Please give more info on what we can do
Hi so there’s not a ton more info right now. I’m going to try to update everyone as quickly as the info comes out.
Unconstitutional never gve u your weapons
Please, advise all readers where they can sign a petition!
Im all in tell me when 👍🏾
Yes!!!
Ban dems not the constitution
Gun owner historically to go and vote sadly to say
"Facially unconstitutional"
The only way is to have the bill read 'repeal bill 4885" voting yes will keep the bill as written and voting no will not keep the bill ;)
Can regular citizens sue over this bill? Probably expensive but is it possible?
Sign the petition you need to have a llc ?
No, from what I understand you just need to be registered to vote for your signature to count.
Do not comply
Help us
I just sent this follow up question to Kristin at the State Police. I am hoping to get a response sometime today and when I do I will forward it to you.
Hello Kristin, 7-31-24
Is there any word yet as to whether or not the old/prior training criteria will/can still be used until the State Police roll out the new training criteria after 8/1? And would the old criteria be valid for 90 days after the bill is signed or valid for as long as it takes for the new criteria to come out?
Thank you in advance for your time Kristin.
Mark Shean
BFS00001552
Thank you Mark! Please keep me updated on her response!
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All senators, congressmen, governor's, judges, president are all state officials elected or appointed to a specific state and therefore prohibited any such authority or jurisdiction to pass or enforce any form of gun laws whatsoever anywhere in the united states of America under the constitution of the united states of America supreme law of the land under
Supremacy clause.
Article 4 section 2 paragraph 1
The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.
Second amendment shall not be Infringed clause.
9th amendment enumeration clause.
10th amendment nor prohibited by it to the states clause
(applies because the shall not be Infringed clause prohibits the state officials from violating the second amendment rights of American citizens).
14th amendment section 1.
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states clause.
Combined.
I would like to see the local/city/state Police take completely out of the loop ➰ for "So called licensing 🪪"! I'd prefer to see it as an instant check state! The way it should be....
I'm with u
Ban all guns north of the Mason Dixon line
Ban u!
Good luck with that… Punk!!