@@billieunderwood8303 So democrat, you choose not to prepare and think that people who stock up on ammo should be on a government watch list? That's is such a democrat way of thinking.
Here’s a tip when stockpiling ammo…. Make sure your subfloor can handle the weight. I quit stockpiling a few years ago and I now focus on staying in shape. I suggest people gear up and hustle up a hill… if you couldn’t make it do it until you can. I had a huge reality check two hunting seasons ago. I’m definitely not a spring chicken anymore and If it hit the fan that day I would be telling people to leave me behind. I go hiking 2-4 times a month now rain or shine.
I'm walking my dog about a thousand miles a year, 90% of that with a 25 pound pack. Also work the garden, trim the grape vines, plant fruit trees, and keep busy.
I hope you are devoting some time and energy to food and other skills as well. We have a large garden, fruit trees and bushes, and practice other "primitive" skills as well.
@@Georgia4Low I want to encourage you. I ruck a 15-27 pound pack every day while walking the dog a thousand miles a year. We are out when the wind chill is -40 and when the heat index is 115. I have more berry bushes coming in three weeks. I have gotten plum trees and berry bushes from the Iowa DNR Nursery. I see Georgia also has a state nursery, the only fruit tree they have now is persimmon, but hey, it is fruit. Ten seedlings for 35 bucks. check it out. In a couple years you could have persimmons for eating, sale or barter. Wife bakes, crochets, sews and has already started seedlings and sprouted sweet potatoes. I help in the garden, make raised beds, reload ammo, try to maintain things. Our 1,600 square foot garden typically provides us with 15 months worth of food a year. We are also musicians and artists. Not bad for a retired couple with a half acre. I'm thinking of expanding it to grow wheat.
Never owned a new vehicle ever. Although I did purchase a new tractor when I retired a few years ago. Remember stories my great grand and grand parents told of the mid 1860's through the 1920's from the time I was still running butt naked on the farm. Two forty foot high cube's climate controlled nothing but ammo. One 20' climate controlled nothing but reloading supplies. Another forty high cube nothing but MRE's. And a 70's Ford F250 4x4 just because I like old Fords. As well as a couple of other modes of transportation. I also have a setup to manufacture my own diesel if needed. And no, I'm not rich. I started prepping when we lost my dad on his last mission serving the USAF. It was my responsibility to look after my mom and baby sister. My dad made that very clear to me at a very early age Only a very very close circle that know as they are even more prepared than I. I pray it never happens but times are changing. Start if you haven't and just add to it as you can. And never buy stupid S$$T. If you don't know what you can forage in the woods. Buy a book and start learning. Look for a water supply and have a over stocked water supply on hand. There will be no one coming to save you. And beware of the ones that come and say " We're from the government and we're here to help". Keep your bible close. All the money and connections you may have ain't gonna do squat for you come final judgement day. Let the ones that give you grief spout away. Hopefully your video will open some eyeball's and they'll start preparing. You also got a new sub today
what matters for shtf is that you know to not be out and about in daylight, dont make noise, dont show a normal light at night, dont have a fire in daytime. At night, a SMALL fire can be 2 ft down in a Dakota pit, with the intake hole dug at an angle, and your poncho and tarp around the vent-hole, so that the firelight goes no place but UP. Solar chargers, survival info downloaded onto Kindle readers, sedatives. .22lr noisemakers on the lids over your tunnel entrances. Let the figthting and diseases just pass you by. Wear "nail sandals" whenever you're within 50m of a cache or your tunnel, come and go in different directions all of the time, so that you dont beat a path.
I used to have several calibers and different guns etc. with the past ammo shortages, etc I ended up selling all my odd round guns and simplified to where I only have 30-06, .22 and 556/.223. I’ve built up my 556 storage to 32,000 rounds and 30-06 to 5000 and .22 to 12,000. I also have a .444 but that’s a close range I use for elk. Anyways. Love the channel and the advice brother!
Thank You! Nothing but love for the 30-06, that’s the holy grail of rifle calibers. I’m also a fan of the ole .444 lever action rd, is that a Marlin .444?
Your safe looks a lot like mine. I keep my carry ammos on the top shelf for easy inventory. Was able to put my safe in a closet, so I keep the 22LR and 12 gauge in cans stacked beside the safe. You can hold more than 900 rounds of 5.56 on clips in a 50 cal can if you stack it right. 👍🏼 Cheers from North Georgia
I "don't" have twelve 50cal ammo cans that are not full of 30-06 loaded up for my m1 Garands. I also don't have over 25000 rounds of .22 and I don't have 7200 12ga mostly in buckshot grades. I also don't have 10k+ 8mm rounds. AND, I didn't take twelve 8mm surplus riffles and turn them into two gatling guns... nope, never did that! I would have lost them in my boating accident anyway! And I didn't use bicycle part to make them too. So cool. Keep building your stock so you can lose some in your "vehicle/vessel" accident! Happy boating!
What firearms pins, springs and similar parts do you have in storage to maintain your firearms? How about firearm maintenance supplies? cleaning solvent, lube, brushes, mops, etc? I've pretty much got pins and springs for three semiauto firearms including an older Marlin that isn't made anymore. Cleaning and lubricating a good 6 years worth of brishes, mops, solvent, lube at least. Patches, I've been making my own from rags for a decade.
for my AR15's I have complete trigger group parts, I also have complete bolt carrier groups, and complete bolt carrier group replacement parts. plenty of cleaning supplies as well.
you wont be doing any practice shooting once shtf, so you wont need to be repairing or cleaning any guns. Until shtf, you can buy such stuff, so why bother to own much of it? you only need to clean a decent 22 about once every 1000 rds and a decent centerfire pistol once every several thousand rds. Ditto an AR, if you run it wet with WD-40.. The gas blast and moving parts get the crud out of the way as it accumulates.. If you have to crawl thru sand or mud with it, wrap it in a drum liner Better to have to "waste" one second tearing into the garbage bag than to have a non -functional gun, eh?
2:37 get a 10 brick bulk order, here in Sweden it’s very common (among us shooters) to have orders of a couple thousand rounds (of whatever ammo we need) and 5 000 rounds of .22 is only like 500$. Great video G. Trying to get to the states instead of living here that’s for sure!
How much ammo is enough? That depends on a lot of variables. 1) How big is the SHTF scenario? Local, regional or nation wide? 2) How often do you think you'll be in a firefight? 3) If you get into a firefight, how long do you think you'll survive one? 4) Are you staying put or bugging out if SHTF? 5) Can you trust the people you join with not to sell you out or kill you?
I play in the crypto market but very amateur with less than $5k invested. I’ve though 2nd location for items but just don’t seem to have a solid spot yet.
Best advice from this video: you don’t have to buy it all at once. I also just accumulate it bit by bit, when on sale, etc.. it does stack up after a while.
My best advice to anyone trying to stockpile ammo is to save up and only buy by the case, not by the box. The initial cost is higher but overall its much cheaper than buying by the box.
I like that process but ammo supply can be fragile, we saw that in 2020 so I like buying every week even if it's a few boxes but mostly I buy several boxes.
I never discuss with ANYONE, even family, what ammo, or weapons i possess. But after multiple combat tours, i can tell you without reservation, that a fifteen minute firefight with multiple targets will cost you between 200 to 300 rounds, if you survive it. If you dont, it wont matter. Hesitation, conscience and fear will ensure your demise.
My team will be here on the farm when SHTF. We will have no less than two guards on duty 24/7. If one person comes on the farm when there are plenty of signs telling them not to or a gang comes by, we will take care of any problems.
what you had BETTER do is dig a tunnel if shtf and stay in it for a year, coming out only at night, to access one of your food buckets and cook a meal. scan 360 degrees with passive IR or Thermal vision before emerging and repeat every 5 minutes. wear nail sandals any time that you're within 50m of your caches or tunnel. Vary your entrance-exit directions, so that you dont beat a path. If you're having firefights, you're a fool who wont last a month of shtf.
Easiest answer is more haha! I also use the cam method but multiple for each caliber. Oldest one comes to the top for usage. When it gets emptied it gets set aside to be refilled from what has been purchased during its use. Then to the bottom of the pile.
Me myself have an emergency bag with MRE’s,water,protein bars,first aid,common medicines,500/500 of the most common ammo..9 &45 -A Pellet gun-fish line with hooks & survival knife - weather band radio /CB 👍🏾
Do you plan to hunker down? If you have to relocate and or reposition are you prepared and capable to move that inventory along with your other sustainables and extra parts incase you need to make a repair I think that's a good inventory I like the way you built it up just keep in mind a situation may come to where you have to bug out possibly on foot, just giving something to think about.
I definitely plan to hunker down. But if you are bugging out I think you need a plan. Know where you are going, who you are meeting there. And most importantly, what you bring to the table to allow whoever you are going to stay with to allow you to do so. Come as a resource, not a liability. Bring fuel (gas, propane), ammo, guns, food, generators, solar generators, solar panels, water. Things that make you an asset to be around.
I've had conversations with our small town mayor about the state of civilization. He knows he has a militia of at least 200 well armed men and older teens with dozens of veterans, active duty and reserve military. We probably have fifteen to twenty five hundred guns in town and an estimated one to two million rounds of ammo. Sure, a bunch of that is 22 ammo and guns, but it is good for training and emergency. Yes, a very redneck town. we also have lots of gardens, chickens, even some goats, cattle and sheep in the area. And it isn't all agriculture in town, we have plumbers, electricians, doctors, lawyers, dentists, pharmacies, and so on. Our high school is in the top ten in the state and the top 1,000 nationally. This town could do pretty well in a long term crisis.
As it piles deeper and deeper. I would try to cycle through some of the older long time storage stuff. For the use now. And put the newer stuff back for reserves. That way if something happens what you have isnt the oldest stuff you ever had. Just food for thought. I understand if stored properly it'll last forever. Though it still can't hurt unless you find the newer manufacturered is weaker which I wouldn't doubt a bit.
You might want to look at reloading. If you shoot over 2,000 rounds a year of centerfire as a family it can pay off in a couple years. It has gotten expensive over the past couple years, but still cheaper than off the shelf. If you have the time. I paid for my equipment in about two years reloading 9mm, 5.56, 20 gauge and 410 bore. The only thing I've bought in years is rimfire, powder, primers, bullets, shot and wads. I don't recall the last time I shot factory ammo.
From experience I would recommend keeping some ammo in a different place other than your home. I had a 55 gallon plastic drum half full of 9mm fmj and a full 30 gallon drum with 5.56 when my house caught fire and I lost it all, along with my guns and other ammo for my hunting rifles. All of my guns were in a cannon safe and the ammo was in those sealed drums. I had insurance but I couldn't prove how much ammo I had so I didn't get all of the money back on that. It was a learning experience for sure.
I'm starting my cache. Plate carrier, helmet, food, water, medical equipment, gun, extra mags extra ammo. All that needs to be carried while on the move during SHTF. So how much to store if your expected to be on the move
No I do not, I have some JHP for carry pistols for daily normal society. For SHTF I think the concern for over penetration goes way down, plus our Military has been killing bad guys around the globe with FMJ for many many years.
cardboard boxes retain moisture. You can put the ammo in plastic bags in a steel ammo can, with a label on the bag and dessicant packages in t he bags and the can. Keep the empty boxes in another container. in case of recalls. I have not bought centerfire ammo in decades. I reload it all and cast my 9mm bullets. 22's are so cheap that I"d not bother to ship it back.
My main two are 9mm and 308. I have decent amount of .44 magnum and im working on increasing the amount of 12 gauge I have. 308 is the most difficult to stock pile of the 4, as its the most expensive (best bet is 7.62x51 M80 Ball for the most "bang for your buck"). Nice thing about it is you have everything from M80 ball to tons of different hunting rounds, to HPBT/OTM precision rounds, to defensive rounds (Horndady Critical Defense, Speer Personal Defense), subsonic rounds, copper solids, brass solids, and all the way up to AP, API, and EPR rounds. In my opinion 308 is hands down the most versatile rifle cartridge as it has the most bullet types available.
Also, another question…I vacuum seal my guns and ammo while not in use, except for a few I have for daily carry. Do you think vacuum sealing is a good idea?
Really depends on how they are being stored. Firearms being stored in a controlled environment like your home it's not needed, or in a gun safe that's in a controlled environment, it's not needed. Just make sure the guns are clean, lubed internally, and wipe them down externally with oil. If you stored them an environment that has a lot of temperature changes or they are outside your home I would heavy coat them with oil and vacuum seal they for sure.
yes, IF you add dessicant packets. However, WHY have money tied up in guns that you dont use, hmm? Sell them and get other survival stuff and training with the money.. While there's still people stupid enough to buy such guns.
Great store. I got you beat on .22LR, but the others you got me on. .22LR and .22Mag are my primary, as I don’t want to be banging loud letting everyone know what I have, when all I want is a squirrel to eat. For large cal, I have .270 Weatherby Mag, about 500 rounds only, and 30-30 (500 rounds). I have several hundred .44M, .357M, and 44ACP. 12 gauge, about 500. I’m not so much worry about people as a threat, given that I live in the GA mountains and you would need to go through several 1000 military vets to even reach me, all of who are locals like me and we would team together. I mostly have the survival ammo, not the attack or defend ammo, although I could certainly ruin someone’s day with a .22M or even LR if required. I would hate to ever see that eventuality occur, because that would mean several misses with the .270M had occurred at 1000 yards, 900, 800, 700, …(you get the point). ;). Nice setup for sure. I don’t much trust those ARs either…not very durable, built for standardization of components and easy parts replacement in a field full of similar battlefield weapons. My horse could step on my weatherby or Marlin 30-30 and it wouldn’t bother them at all, but a AR would be crushed and dysfunctional thereafter. ARs are fun to shoot, but I just don’t think I would want to have to rely on it as my primary; too many moving parts.
Thanks for watching... 22 cal is very effective for a lot of things and gets over looked, I even over looked it but realize how useful it really is. Let's just hope we never need any of this stored ammo and we just can continue to shoot for fun.
As much as you can afford. Don't go into debt for guns and ammo. Whatever happens won't last forever. The people you owe money will eventually want it back and you may not be able to pay. That will be a headache you don't need. The best way to prep is get out of debt first. people will want their money back.
Buying weekly / monthly is a good plan. But, I really only buy in bulk, and keep some long term . I buy online, usually in the Spring. For 22, whatever your favorite is, you can usually get bricks of 5000, like ten boxes of 500. Great for gifts or sharing, or have someone chip in.
My favorite site always sends me flyers. When bulk 1,000 round ammo goes down to a price I can't turn down I buy another. Throw it in a green can, empty the boxes in there, then cut 1 box up and tape the top to the side of the can. So I can look a brand, caliber, and power (whether its 115, 124, or something else) without having to open or move things around. Makes it simpler for inventory.
This old man is rucking a 25 pound pack daily for about a thousand miles a year. Also work in the garden, take care of the fruit trees, berry bushes and grape vine. I've got enough ammo to spare in a crisis to supply some of the militia. I live in a quiet little redneck town. There are lots of towns like this. We have gardens, people that can food and bake. Some have chickens, goats, sheep, cattle, milk cows. We have fruit trees, grape vines, wells, a great school system. This town is not only worth defending, but in town we've got about four guns and a combined 500-1,000 rounds for every man, woman in child in town. Say the word and the unofficial militia will share refrigeration, take care of our sick, block roads , patrol paths because we already do things like that. To those who say I'll take ammo from preppers, thanks for the comedy. We got a laugh from that.
We dont need to be, at night, with night vision, armor, night sights, silencer and subsonic ammo OPTION, solar charger, spare batteries, and a tunnel to hide in during daytime.
I wish I was at that level of stocked ammo as you are but I for sure have quite a bit to where it’s taking up a lot of space where I store it, indeed I buy little by little as it creates less attention from the sellers.
I don’t think much over a thousand rounds of 9mm is really needed. I think the rifle ammo is were it’s at. But to be honest if you shoot up more than a thousand or two rounds you’ve been lucky to survive that many fire fights.
Once you have a good stock of rifle ammo you expect to use, stacking cheaper 9mm ammo I think is valuable. It's a very popular caliber and would be very useful in trade, and when you can buy it for $250 per 1,000 brass rounds that's fairly cheap. Stock up now cheap, then trade when scarce.
Been stacking ammo since the early 90s with the exception of 2020 and 2021 because I just refused to pay the stupid high prices... But at the minimum, I typically I have always bought at least a case whenever I open a case. These days I shoot between 10-25k rounds a year, and could realistically never "need" to buy another round. It also helps that I've condensed calibers down to 11, from 24. That said, I still end up buying more than I shoot.
I do not recommend "don't touch" INSTEAD I recommend "EVENTUALLY ROTATE" Some years ago I fired off my dads old 12 ga that was DECADES OLD .... I bought some more that I will NOT wait decades or emergencies to use. ROTATE ROTATE ROTATE DEAGES THE AMMO AND periodically VERIFIES the stock ....
I have enough when im out of money and have physically run out of space to store more. Also have you not heard of hollow points? I heard they dont go straight through bodies
I carry hollow points in my EDC pistol and keep a few boxes for practice etc. but for SHTF I think it's waste of money to storage thousands of rounds of hollow points when FMJ will work just fine.
I shoot out of my ammo cans and stock cases of ammo, lol. Exact opposite of you. I have 5 cases of 9mm, 5 cases of 5.56, 3000 rounds of 00, #4 and #1 buck shot and a few hundred slugs. Every time I open a case for training purposes , I replace it on the same day. Ive been doing that for about 10 years now and its just working. I shoot a lot....I shoot 1000 rounds of 9mm and 1000 rounds of 5.56 a month. Ammo isnt worth a damn if you dont know how to shoot.. Damn sure gotta do something though....if something happens to me, my peeps are in decent shape.
I won't critique others' prep load outs, but I keep most of what you have. The biggest difference is I keep a load out for two long-distance bolt action for both hunting and defense. We live in the mountains, and I think being able to engage potential threats out beyond 600 yards is a priority and keep 6.5 Creedmoor and 22LR (mostly varmint hunting for 22) in bulk for that reason
I've made it a habit to spend roughly $100 every payday on ammo. (Granted I'm paid byweekly) I do either local, or if I catch some sales online. Various calibers as well.
Goodly amount. My question is do you reload, it decreases reliance on others. I make like a brass goblin and do range brass sweeps. I commonly get the big 3 for me, 9mm, 40 S&W, and 5.56 which I load to .223 Rem standard. A friend gave me about 300 5.56 cases, just as I'm finishing off a batch of 69 gr BTHP that I can reach out to 650m 711 yds. Yes I know it won't have alot of energy at that range, but I can definitely be sure at lesser ranges.
Wrong question. The one who correctly figures out where to hunker down will need very little, enough to hunt. The one who hunkers down in suburbia with hungry neighbors can never have enough and will almost certainly die.
I was with the family on Sunday, and we were talking about something (can't honestly remember what it was, initially), and it gravitated towards guns and ammo. My mom said something about how much ammo I have. And she used the words "a BUNCH of ammo". I said, "I really don't have that much, to be honest. And I could use a lot more." She just looked at me. My current stash is: ~1500 rounds of 5.56 (all in magazines) 20 rounds of 6.5CM (for my bolt action hunting rifle) ~300 rounds of 9mm (EDC pistol) ~100 rounds of .45ADCP (for my 1911) ~100 rou8nds of 00 buck shot What I'd really like is at LEAST 1000 rounds of each caliber. My previous financial situation wasn't as good as it is, now. So I plan on doing something about it. And hopefully, I can get very close to that goal by the end of the year. Of course I might wind up with another gun and it might be in another caliber, so I'll have to work on getting the numbers up on that ammo, too.
Thanks for watching, I buy ammo every week so that method and see if it works for you. I like you caliber choices as these are pretty common. 6.5 CM was super hard to find during 2020 so maybe start buying 6.5CM weekly for sure.
@@Georgia4LowI have a Ruger 10/22, and it is my favorite gun to shoot. I highly recommend it, I have so much fun for a fraction of the price of shooting my shotgun or AR. 22lr is an incredible value!
I reload most of my ammo but every time i see ammo for cheap ill get a few boxes Does any one know where i can find bulk reloading bullets for cheap ??
I'm thinking "I'll" never have "Enough". Many say, minimum 1,000 rds per cal. "I" think, minimum, 1,000 rds per "Gun". But I would actually be more comfortable with 10,000 rds for my primary rifles and 5-6,000 rds for primary pistols.
Great video on your organization of ammo based on reserves and necessity. Haven’t thought of permanent reserves kept separate from range ammo. And for the people that can’t seem to grasp the concept of true freedom, you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you don’t tread on other people rights. You simply cannot be over prepared. When SHTF people can become desperate and irrational. Especially when considering gangs,homelessness and those who arent prepared, desperate times calls for desperate measures when people will eventually want what you have(security,food,shelter). Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. One final note is with that much ammo, YOU can be the reason the people beside you are armed to protect themselves and those around them.
My comfort level MINIMUM is 5-7000 per caliber... 10000 is the goal... Again that is per caliber... I also like having 5- 7 magazines per firearm minimum, for handguns, and about 21 for AR platform rifles... Needless to say, I feel that the hour is late, for those who haven't been stocking up before now.
This is a question I see repeating a lot. On the face of it, it looks obvious, but the truth is, as he said “Afghanistan” says it all. So does Vietnam. I recall that a West Point General or Colonial said that a nation of citizens can definitely hold off a superior military. I think it’s true. While I hope it never ever comes to that and I hope for peace eternal, I think if you consider it deeply you may come to a similar conclusion.
@@Georgia4Low Well if you live IN city, then yea its getting left behind but if you are out in the country and have acres of land and you have a food supply to last a few yrs, then yes all that ammo is GREAT to have. That is more my goal is to get out of the city and live more in the country. People in the country will have guns and food so no "smart" person will hit those homes. In the city on the other hand, its going to be a war zone.
@@ACommenterOnRUclips you have it wrong. The lack of water in the cities will FORCE everyone to evacuate and after they get some water, they aint going back into the city, They'll be headed to the farms for livestock and stored grain.
I haven't found any good 556 rounds, like OT, BTHP, SMK, but I did find some 223 in that category so I've been buying that. I'm going to try your method
@@Georgia4Low that was a thought I had about your stash. I have defensive rounds but because of how I have just been buying recently, but keep a lot more FMJ that would have to be used as defensive rounds if SHTF
FMJ works well for defensive rounds, biggest liability is over penetration but I believe lots of that goes away once the lights go out, heck lots of people hunt wild hogs with FMJ 5.56.
Centerfire, I'm rolling my own, 9mm 60% less cost than the store, 5.56 45% less cost than the store, 410 defensive rounds 80% less cost than the store. At normal shooting rates anywhere from 2-4 years of supply. Have components for another 2-4 years. This small town is not only worth defending, but in town we've got about three guns and a combined 500-1,000 rounds for every man, woman in child in town. To those who say I'll take ammo from preppers, thanks for the comedy. We got a laugh from that.
Myself, I've found it much less expensive to practice and carry by reloading everything I shoot except rimfire.. I have about ten thousand rounds in storage along with components for another ten thousand rounds. This total includes shotshells, rifle, handgun and rimfire ammo. I know that in an SHTF situation in this town I will probably be support staff for the local militia, supplying services such as reloading, cleaning firearms, training and supplying food. I've had conversations with our small town mayor about the state of civilization. He knows he has a militia of at least 200 well armed men and older teens with dozens of veterans, active duty and reserve military. We probably have 1,500 to 2,500 guns in town and an estimated one to two million rounds of ammo. Wife and I are retired and live in a small home on a half acre. On that half acre we have fifteen hundred square feet of garden, thirteen fruit trees, seventeen berry bushes, and a grape vine. What we don't eat fresh; we can, dehydrate, freeze, pickle, ferment and cold store our produce. The garden produces typical vegetables, kitchen, household and medicinal herbs. The next expansion of the garden will be one thousand square feet to grow winter wheat which we will grind to flour. . We are prepared for numerous routine things, storms, flooding, power outages, and other natural disasters. We are prepared for stock market crash or to continue to make money in the stock market and live to old age. One part of our routine is to get regular exercise and stay busy. I walk the dog over a thousand miles a year, most of that carrying a pack that weighs between 15 and 27 pounds. My wife rides the stationary bicycle, does the stretches and keeps house. Between the exercising, the garden and chores we average over two hours of exercise a day. On a busy day we have both put in a full day of labor helping someone move last fall. I even made $240 clearing snow this winter, about half of that with a shovel. I had my blood pressure checked yesterday at the dentist, 110/68. Not bad for a 67 year old. As part of our preparations we have removed trees that could fall on our house, driveway and power lines, have a tarp, lumber and nails to cover a damaged roof, and similar home preparations. We have two generators, one which could power the home and one that can be lent to neighbors to power a refrigerator, freezer or sump pump in a power outage. We have 40 gallons of gasoline stored by keeping the vehicles and three gas cans full plus 45 pounds of propane. We have hundreds of gallons of water for washing and flushing and about fifty gallons for drinking. We live in a neighborhood with many preppers, firearms owners, gardeners, and people who raise chickens. We have friends on acreages that raise goats, horses, cattle. Our skills include shooting, cleaning firearms, reloading, fishing, filleting fish, small animal butchering, gardening, food preservation, making wine and vinegar, cooking, baking, some mechanic skills, some bricklaying, weaving, crocheting, splicing rope, sharpening tools, bicycle maintenance, musician, and making jewelry. Our previous jobs included EMT, chef and restaurant manager, chemical engineer, hazmat technician, first responder and trainer, substitute teacher, delivery driver and kitchen general help. I want to encourage you all, it is not just about firearms and stored food. Stay physically and mentally active, practice some old skills, know your neighbors, maintain your home and tools, be part of the community and be ready.
I don't stockpile ammo for SHTF, I stockpile ammo to shoot. There have been years where the wife and I have gone through over 12,000 rounds. Now that we are retired there's not as much need to blow off steam, so we have been averaging about 3-5,000 rounds a year. Still, with another bad year to find ammo that could start any time I don't mind having 10k in stock and components for most of another 10k. This includes 22lr, 22 mag, 17 HMR, 9mm, 380, 5.56, 410 gauge and 20 gauge. Reloading is the way to go if you have time and shooting is a hobby in the family. The weather is getting better, I'm going to assemble my new clay thrower this week. That means I'll be reloading shotshells by next weekend.
the answer is however much you can carry in a hurry up and get out situation... you can always go ammo hunting when you get to a safe place... but i wouldnt keep a stockpile for the next guy in the house
Some people don't have enough and others have to much. If things come to shooting our way out of this mess you don't have enough. You can only servive so many shootouts, depending on how lucky you are. I am more stocking for my kids snd grsndkids. They will need it unfortunately.
same here, I truly believe my adult kids and future grandkids will need these weapons and ammo at some point. I keep buying for them and myself lol as I enjoy guns anyways.
You should be on the Homeland Security list...it's your money buddy, do you what you with it. But, you have a problem...just saying.
That’s laughable, it’s called freedom you better exercise it while we still have it.
Funny, I was kinda thinking people such as yourself who want those who prepare for what is SURE to come, would be on a real governments watch list.
You’ll be shafting yourself when you see other RUclipsrs that have WAAAAY more ammo 😂. Don’t hate that we enjoy our freedom
Agreed! Thanks for watching
@@billieunderwood8303 So democrat, you choose not to prepare and think that people who stock up on ammo should be on a government watch list? That's is such a democrat way of thinking.
Rule number one of gun club don't tell people how much ammo you have 😂😂😂
Yes, I have no friends anyways 🤣🤣
@Georgia4Low and looks you will never have one... Enjoy your life, man! Russians are not here... yet 😂
Too much info.
Big Brother is listening and guess who's door they are breaking down
Big brother already knows every firearm purchase and or ammo. Reason they love the debit/credit cards.
@@Georgia4Low exactly, keep quiet, stop bragging and just prep.its not rocket science
"How much ammo do you have?"
" I've learned not to answer that question, it makes people uncomfortable."
Here’s a tip when stockpiling ammo…. Make sure your subfloor can handle the weight. I quit stockpiling a few years ago and I now focus on staying in shape. I suggest people gear up and hustle up a hill… if you couldn’t make it do it until you can. I had a huge reality check two hunting seasons ago. I’m definitely not a spring chicken anymore and If it hit the fan that day I would be telling people to leave me behind. I go hiking 2-4 times a month now rain or shine.
awesome plan for sure, I built a header system out of 2x6's sandwiched together with a floor jack and got that set up right under the safe.
I'm walking my dog about a thousand miles a year, 90% of that with a 25 pound pack. Also work the garden, trim the grape vines, plant fruit trees, and keep busy.
The only real navy seal i ever knew told me, "you can never have enough ammo" he then paused, looked at me and said "unless you're trying to swim" 😂
that's funny right but true.
I try to spend at least a 100 a month on ammo and magazines
That’s a solid game plan!!!
Adds up over time.
I hope you are devoting some time and energy to food and other skills as well. We have a large garden, fruit trees and bushes, and practice other "primitive" skills as well.
yes working on those as well
@@Georgia4Low I want to encourage you.
I ruck a 15-27 pound pack every day while walking the dog a thousand miles a year. We are out when the wind chill is -40 and when the heat index is 115.
I have more berry bushes coming in three weeks. I have gotten plum trees and berry bushes from the Iowa DNR Nursery. I see Georgia also has a state nursery, the only fruit tree they have now is persimmon, but hey, it is fruit. Ten seedlings for 35 bucks. check it out. In a couple years you could have persimmons for eating, sale or barter.
Wife bakes, crochets, sews and has already started seedlings and sprouted sweet potatoes. I help in the garden, make raised beds, reload ammo, try to maintain things.
Our 1,600 square foot garden typically provides us with 15 months worth of food a year. We are also musicians and artists. Not bad for a retired couple with a half acre. I'm thinking of expanding it to grow wheat.
Your stockpile of ANYTHING should never be divulged for reasons we all can imagine.
Never owned a new vehicle ever. Although I did purchase a new tractor when I retired a few years ago. Remember stories my great grand and grand parents told of the mid 1860's through the 1920's from the time I was still running butt naked on the farm. Two forty foot high cube's climate controlled nothing but ammo. One 20' climate controlled nothing but reloading supplies. Another forty high cube nothing but MRE's. And a 70's Ford F250 4x4 just because I like old Fords. As well as a couple of other modes of transportation. I also have a setup to manufacture my own diesel if needed. And no, I'm not rich. I started prepping when we lost my dad on his last mission serving the USAF. It was my responsibility to look after my mom and baby sister. My dad made that very clear to me at a very early age
Only a very very close circle that know as they are even more prepared than I. I pray it never happens but times are changing. Start if you haven't and just add to it as you can. And never buy stupid S$$T. If you don't know what you can forage in the woods. Buy a book and start learning. Look for a water supply and have a over stocked water supply on hand.
There will be no one coming to save you. And beware of the ones that come and say " We're from the government and we're here to help".
Keep your bible close. All the money and connections you may have ain't gonna do squat for you come final judgement day.
Let the ones that give you grief spout away. Hopefully your video will open some eyeball's and they'll start preparing. You also got a new sub today
Thanks for the support. I appreciate your father’s service to our great country. 🇺🇸
Interesting to finally see someone else's full setup! ...Thanks for your thoughts on the topic 4Low
Thank you.
Stack it high Stack it deep brother........Stay ready so you don't have to get ready.......
Facts! Thanks for watching
Best Ammo Calibers for SHTF?
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I e been doing the same now for the last 4 years really starting to build up. Great video.
Thanks for watching. I started 3 years ago and yes it really starts stacking up quicker than you think.
what matters for shtf is that you know to not be out and about in daylight, dont make noise, dont show a normal light at night, dont have a fire in daytime. At night, a SMALL fire can be 2 ft down in a Dakota pit, with the intake hole dug at an angle, and your poncho and tarp around the vent-hole, so that the firelight goes no place but UP. Solar chargers, survival info downloaded onto Kindle readers, sedatives. .22lr noisemakers on the lids over your tunnel entrances. Let the figthting and diseases just pass you by. Wear "nail sandals" whenever you're within 50m of a cache or your tunnel, come and go in different directions all of the time, so that you dont beat a path.
More great tips. Thank you
I used to have several calibers and different guns etc. with the past ammo shortages, etc I ended up selling all my odd round guns and simplified to where I only have 30-06, .22 and 556/.223. I’ve built up my 556 storage to 32,000 rounds and 30-06 to 5000 and .22 to 12,000. I also have a .444 but that’s a close range I use for elk. Anyways. Love the channel and the advice brother!
Thank You! Nothing but love for the 30-06, that’s the holy grail of rifle calibers. I’m also a fan of the ole .444 lever action rd, is that a Marlin .444?
@@Georgia4Low yep. It’s a marlin with the JM stamped barrel. Shoots accurately and awesome for elk in the deep woods
Your safe looks a lot like mine. I keep my carry ammos on the top shelf for easy inventory. Was able to put my safe in a closet, so I keep the 22LR and 12 gauge in cans stacked beside the safe. You can hold more than 900 rounds of 5.56 on clips in a 50 cal can if you stack it right. 👍🏼
Cheers from North Georgia
thanks for watching. yeah I will eventually move my ammo out of this safe and into a safe dedicated just for ammo.
I "don't" have twelve 50cal ammo cans that are not full of 30-06 loaded up for my m1 Garands. I also don't have over 25000 rounds of .22 and I don't have 7200 12ga mostly in buckshot grades. I also don't have 10k+ 8mm rounds. AND, I didn't take twelve 8mm surplus riffles and turn them into two gatling guns... nope, never did that! I would have lost them in my boating accident anyway! And I didn't use bicycle part to make them too. So cool. Keep building your stock so you can lose some in your "vehicle/vessel" accident! Happy boating!
😆 yes wish me well in my prepping and boater safety 🤣
How much? Enough to supply a small army plus some as trade. Lead will be worth more than gold.
yes it's value will exceed the value of gold.
If you can fit it in a safe you need more.
adding more ammo every week. thanks
-"How much more ammo do you need sir?"
"MORE...."
Yes always more
If you've got enough room to store ammo in your gun safe, you don't have enough guns.
haha this. I was like wtf?
What firearms pins, springs and similar parts do you have in storage to maintain your firearms?
How about firearm maintenance supplies? cleaning solvent, lube, brushes, mops, etc?
I've pretty much got pins and springs for three semiauto firearms including an older Marlin that isn't made anymore.
Cleaning and lubricating a good 6 years worth of brishes, mops, solvent, lube at least. Patches, I've been making my own from rags for a decade.
for my AR15's I have complete trigger group parts, I also have complete bolt carrier groups, and complete bolt carrier group replacement parts. plenty of cleaning supplies as well.
these are the questions people need to ask themselves more often, like yeah any idiot can go out and buy 45k rounds but where are you putting it all?
you wont be doing any practice shooting once shtf, so you wont need to be repairing or cleaning any guns. Until shtf, you can buy such stuff, so why bother to own much of it? you only need to clean a decent 22 about once every 1000 rds and a decent centerfire pistol once every several thousand rds. Ditto an AR, if you run it wet with WD-40.. The gas blast and moving parts get the crud out of the way as it accumulates.. If you have to crawl thru sand or mud with it, wrap it in a drum liner Better to have to "waste" one second tearing into the garbage bag than to have a non -functional gun, eh?
2:37 get a 10 brick bulk order, here in Sweden it’s very common (among us shooters) to have orders of a couple thousand rounds (of whatever ammo we need) and 5 000 rounds of .22 is only like 500$. Great video G. Trying to get to the states instead of living here that’s for sure!
Thanks for watching
How much ammo is enough? That depends on a lot of variables.
1) How big is the SHTF scenario? Local, regional or nation wide?
2) How often do you think you'll be in a firefight?
3) If you get into a firefight, how long do you think you'll survive one?
4) Are you staying put or bugging out if SHTF?
5) Can you trust the people you join with not to sell you out or kill you?
All good questions
Great system ! Ever think of “decentralized”… so maybe keeping that backup ammo somewhere else ? Always worries me keeping everything in one spot.
I play in the crypto market but very amateur with less than $5k invested. I’ve though 2nd location for items but just don’t seem to have a solid spot yet.
@@Georgia4Low ha - i see what you did there... :)
Best advice from this video: you don’t have to buy it all at once. I also just accumulate it bit by bit, when on sale, etc.. it does stack up after a while.
Agreed, been using this method for 4 years now. Thanks for watching
My best advice to anyone trying to stockpile ammo is to save up and only buy by the case, not by the box. The initial cost is higher but overall its much cheaper than buying by the box.
I like that process but ammo supply can be fragile, we saw that in 2020 so I like buying every week even if it's a few boxes but mostly I buy several boxes.
Those are rookie numbers. You need to pump those numbers up. Lol
Great video
work in progress, thanks for watching
“A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition.” - Rudyard Kipling
true but whiskey over wine.
I never discuss with ANYONE, even family, what ammo, or weapons i possess. But after multiple combat tours, i can tell you without reservation, that a fifteen minute firefight with multiple targets will cost you between 200 to 300 rounds, if you survive it. If you dont, it wont matter. Hesitation, conscience and fear will ensure your demise.
When the lights go out it would be best to avoid people and fire fights at all possible.
My team will be here on the farm when SHTF. We will have no less than two guards on duty 24/7. If one person comes on the farm when there are plenty of signs telling them not to or a gang comes by, we will take care of any problems.
if you miss a lot, spray and pray, that's true. But such bs wont work for shtf. You wont have the manpower needed to get away with it.
what you had BETTER do is dig a tunnel if shtf and stay in it for a year, coming out only at night, to access one of your food buckets and cook a meal. scan 360 degrees with passive IR or Thermal vision before emerging and repeat every 5 minutes. wear nail sandals any time that you're within 50m of your caches or tunnel. Vary your entrance-exit directions, so that you dont beat a path. If you're having firefights, you're a fool who wont last a month of shtf.
Easiest answer is more haha!
I also use the cam method but multiple for each caliber. Oldest one comes to the top for usage. When it gets emptied it gets set aside to be refilled from what has been purchased during its use. Then to the bottom of the pile.
Thanks for sharing
Answer; as much as you can afford!😊
yes indeed, buying ammo weekly.
“How much ammo should you have?” Yes
Now when SHTF, the posse that raids your place will be able to restock lol
Yep. Best to keep a small "stocked" safe in your garage as a decoy. Hide your real safe where it can't be found.🤷♂️
Me myself have an emergency bag with MRE’s,water,protein bars,first aid,common medicines,500/500 of the most common ammo..9 &45 -A Pellet gun-fish line with hooks & survival knife - weather band radio /CB 👍🏾
That’s a nice bug out bag set up.
You can never have enough!!!
that is true, that's why I buy every Friday, every week.
Do you plan to hunker down? If you have to relocate and or reposition are you prepared and capable to move that inventory along with your other sustainables and extra parts incase you need to make a repair
I think that's a good inventory I like the way you built it up just keep in mind a situation may come to where you have to bug out possibly on foot, just giving something to think about.
For where we live the thought would be to fortify the house. But that could change obviously for sure, you make a good point.
I definitely plan to hunker down. But if you are bugging out I think you need a plan. Know where you are going, who you are meeting there. And most importantly, what you bring to the table to allow whoever you are going to stay with to allow you to do so. Come as a resource, not a liability. Bring fuel (gas, propane), ammo, guns, food, generators, solar generators, solar panels, water. Things that make you an asset to be around.
I've had conversations with our small town mayor about the state of civilization. He knows he has a militia of at least 200 well armed men and older teens with dozens of veterans, active duty and reserve military. We probably have fifteen to twenty five hundred guns in town and an estimated one to two million rounds of ammo. Sure, a bunch of that is 22 ammo and guns, but it is good for training and emergency.
Yes, a very redneck town. we also have lots of gardens, chickens, even some goats, cattle and sheep in the area. And it isn't all agriculture in town, we have plumbers, electricians, doctors, lawyers, dentists, pharmacies, and so on. Our high school is in the top ten in the state and the top 1,000 nationally. This town could do pretty well in a long term crisis.
Totally agree! Thanks
Sounds like the town could survive SHTF.
Honestly buy as much as you can afford.
That’s what we do. Thanks for watching
As it piles deeper and deeper.
I would try to cycle through some of the older long time storage stuff. For the use now. And put the newer stuff back for reserves. That way if something happens what you have isnt the oldest stuff you ever had.
Just food for thought. I understand if stored properly it'll last forever. Though it still can't hurt unless you find the newer manufacturered is weaker which I wouldn't doubt a bit.
I thought about that process but I’m not sure. I may just start vacuum sealing ammo as well.
Rotation is always good,but cool dry stored ammo will last a very long time.
I only have 2 rounds for my double barrel shotgun. My president told me that's all I would need.
You still have one to many, shame on you.
One thing ammo will be good for is negotiating/barter/trade. Can’t have too much.
Facts
I hope to never be in a situation where I need to barter that might come back to kill me
Lots of unknowns once the lights go off and never come back on.
Facts !!!!
For each primary, I try to stock for weapon 2k. The .22 around 5k+.
Each payday, pick up at least a box of something.
You might want to look at reloading. If you shoot over 2,000 rounds a year of centerfire as a family it can pay off in a couple years. It has gotten expensive over the past couple years, but still cheaper than off the shelf. If you have the time.
I paid for my equipment in about two years reloading 9mm, 5.56, 20 gauge and 410 bore.
The only thing I've bought in years is rimfire, powder, primers, bullets, shot and wads. I don't recall the last time I shot factory ammo.
Whatever you can afford buy all you can
Facts
From experience I would recommend keeping some ammo in a different place other than your home. I had a 55 gallon plastic drum half full of 9mm fmj and a full 30 gallon drum with 5.56 when my house caught fire and I lost it all, along with my guns and other ammo for my hunting rifles. All of my guns were in a cannon safe and the ammo was in those sealed drums. I had insurance but I couldn't prove how much ammo I had so I didn't get all of the money back on that. It was a learning experience for sure.
Damn that sucks for sure. Maybe I should at least take pictures and document everything in the safe. Thanks for watching
If you know how much ammo you have...you dont have enough
Facts
I'm starting my cache. Plate carrier, helmet, food, water, medical equipment, gun, extra mags extra ammo. All that needs to be carried while on the move during SHTF. So how much to store if your expected to be on the move
at the moment where we live fortifying our hose is best case, but there are lots of unknows as well.
Do you ever stock up on JHP?
No I do not, I have some JHP for carry pistols for daily normal society. For SHTF I think the concern for over penetration goes way down, plus our Military has been killing bad guys around the globe with FMJ for many many years.
Having lived to the last ammo shortage...I stocked up too,..
Same here.
great video, i feel like it’s important to mention reloading your own ammo tho, otherwise awesome stuff
Thanks for watching. Not into reloading yet but saving brass.
Thats a nice STARTER kit of ammo!
Thanks for watching! It grows every week!
the atf thanks you for posting your collection to the internet
they already know at the time of purchase..
Quick question do you stack gold & silver
No, thanks for watching
Number 1 rule: NEVER tell or broadcast how much ammo you have. Big Joe might look out for you.
Big brother is watching when I buy ammo and guns already. Sad but true
Dude man has a magic portal to Cabelas in his house!
That’s pretty funny 😄
😂😂😂
Nicely organized!
Thanks, still work in progress for me.
YOU don't have enough dude! Not even CLOSE!
Was you paying attention? I buy every week, most of this ammo count has already doubled and continues to.
I would not dump ammo out of the original packaging because there are occasional recalls.
Also my reloaded ammo is all kept by lot in separate bags.
cardboard boxes retain moisture. You can put the ammo in plastic bags in a steel ammo can, with a label on the bag and dessicant packages in t he bags and the can. Keep the empty boxes in another container. in case of recalls. I have not bought centerfire ammo in decades. I reload it all and cast my 9mm bullets. 22's are so cheap that I"d not bother to ship it back.
@@SonnyCrocket-p6h The cardboard packaging use in American munitions actually contains corrosion inhibitors.
if your shtf ammo fits in a safe its not enough
Quickly out growing the safe. Work in progress
@@Georgia4Low buy in bulk, it’s cheaper
We do at times when I catch a sale. Always trolling the internet
I was feeling kind of bad about how little ammo I have. Then I watched this and I feel better now.
It’s work in progress man! Thanks for watching
@@Georgia4Low keep stacking brother
I will!! Thanks
I don't have any ammo, don't have any guns either. all I have is a pointy stick and some safety scissors,...
Gotta use what you have!!
Point being I don't want ppl to know what I have
Understood
The one question i always go back to.
How are you carrying this in a shtf situation?
Kids!
For where we live fortifing our home is best case.
Slow and steady. I do the same thing. You’d be surprised how much you accumulate when you do that for a few years.
It will pile up quickly for sure
Depends on how often you make it to the range...😅
@@warrensteel9954 every Sunday
Great idea
Thank you! Cheers!
My main two are 9mm and 308. I have decent amount of .44 magnum and im working on increasing the amount of 12 gauge I have. 308 is the most difficult to stock pile of the 4, as its the most expensive (best bet is 7.62x51 M80 Ball for the most "bang for your buck"). Nice thing about it is you have everything from M80 ball to tons of different hunting rounds, to HPBT/OTM precision rounds, to defensive rounds (Horndady Critical Defense, Speer Personal Defense), subsonic rounds, copper solids, brass solids, and all the way up to AP, API, and EPR rounds. In my opinion 308 is hands down the most versatile rifle cartridge as it has the most bullet types available.
Could be used as currency or bartering when shtf. So lots
Very true
Bartering ammo in a SHTF situation is liable to get you killed tbh.
Also, another question…I vacuum seal my guns and ammo while not in use, except for a few I have for daily carry. Do you think vacuum sealing is a good idea?
Really depends on how they are being stored. Firearms being stored in a controlled environment like your home it's not needed, or in a gun safe that's in a controlled environment, it's not needed. Just make sure the guns are clean, lubed internally, and wipe them down externally with oil. If you stored them an environment that has a lot of temperature changes or they are outside your home I would heavy coat them with oil and vacuum seal they for sure.
yes, IF you add dessicant packets. However, WHY have money tied up in guns that you dont use, hmm? Sell them and get other survival stuff and training with the money.. While there's still people stupid enough to buy such guns.
Thats a good start👌
Thanks for watching!
Great store. I got you beat on .22LR, but the others you got me on. .22LR and .22Mag are my primary, as I don’t want to be banging loud letting everyone know what I have, when all I want is a squirrel to eat. For large cal, I have .270 Weatherby Mag, about 500 rounds only, and 30-30 (500 rounds). I have several hundred .44M, .357M, and 44ACP. 12 gauge, about 500.
I’m not so much worry about people as a threat, given that I live in the GA mountains and you would need to go through several 1000 military vets to even reach me, all of who are locals like me and we would team together. I mostly have the survival ammo, not the attack or defend ammo, although I could certainly ruin someone’s day with a .22M or even LR if required. I would hate to ever see that eventuality occur, because that would mean several misses with the .270M had occurred at 1000 yards, 900, 800, 700, …(you get the point). ;). Nice setup for sure. I don’t much trust those ARs either…not very durable, built for standardization of components and easy parts replacement in a field full of similar battlefield weapons. My horse could step on my weatherby or Marlin 30-30 and it wouldn’t bother them at all, but a AR would be crushed and dysfunctional thereafter. ARs are fun to shoot, but I just don’t think I would want to have to rely on it as my primary; too many moving parts.
Thanks for watching... 22 cal is very effective for a lot of things and gets over looked, I even over looked it but realize how useful it really is. Let's just hope we never need any of this stored ammo and we just can continue to shoot for fun.
As much as you can afford. Don't go into debt for guns and ammo. Whatever happens won't last forever. The people you owe money will eventually want it back and you may not be able to pay. That will be a headache you don't need. The best way to prep is get out of debt first. people will want their money back.
That’s why we buy ammo every week.
Pretty sure if a anything bad enough happens we won't be worrying about debt ever again.
If the lights go out and never come back on.
Buying weekly / monthly is a good plan. But, I really only buy in bulk, and keep some long term . I buy online, usually in the Spring. For 22, whatever your favorite is, you can usually get bricks of 5000, like ten boxes of 500. Great for gifts or sharing, or have someone chip in.
Thanks for watching
My favorite site always sends me flyers. When bulk 1,000 round ammo goes down to a price I can't turn down I buy another. Throw it in a green can, empty the boxes in there, then cut 1 box up and tape the top to the side of the can. So I can look a brand, caliber, and power (whether its 115, 124, or something else) without having to open or move things around. Makes it simpler for inventory.
I like your method.
Most retirees would not survive a serious firefight. It’s just the t ruth. we are not as quick as we use to be.
This old man is rucking a 25 pound pack daily for about a thousand miles a year. Also work in the garden, take care of the fruit trees, berry bushes and grape vine. I've got enough ammo to spare in a crisis to supply some of the militia.
I live in a quiet little redneck town. There are lots of towns like this. We have gardens, people that can food and bake. Some have chickens, goats, sheep, cattle, milk cows. We have fruit trees, grape vines, wells, a great school system. This town is not only worth defending, but in town we've got about four guns and a combined 500-1,000 rounds for every man, woman in child in town. Say the word and the unofficial militia will share refrigeration, take care of our sick, block roads , patrol paths because we already do things like that.
To those who say I'll take ammo from preppers, thanks for the comedy. We got a laugh from that.
We dont need to be, at night, with night vision, armor, night sights, silencer and subsonic ammo OPTION, solar charger, spare batteries, and a tunnel to hide in during daytime.
I wish I was at that level of stocked ammo as you are but I for sure have quite a bit to where it’s taking up a lot of space where I store it, indeed I buy little by little as it creates less attention from the sellers.
I don’t think much over a thousand rounds of 9mm is really needed. I think the rifle ammo is were it’s at. But to be honest if you shoot up more than a thousand or two rounds you’ve been lucky to survive that many fire fights.
Once you have a good stock of rifle ammo you expect to use, stacking cheaper 9mm ammo I think is valuable. It's a very popular caliber and would be very useful in trade, and when you can buy it for $250 per 1,000 brass rounds that's fairly cheap. Stock up now cheap, then trade when scarce.
As a 9mm handgun and carbine family, my wife and I can go through 400 rounds in one range trip. But I reload, so it is cheaper.
Good point just depends on what people own for 9mm firearms. Thanks for watching
Facts, thanks for watching
So true, handguns and carbines can burn down some rounds. Thanks for watching
Been stacking ammo since the early 90s with the exception of 2020 and 2021 because I just refused to pay the stupid high prices...
But at the minimum, I typically I have always bought at least a case whenever I open a case. These days I shoot between 10-25k rounds a year, and could realistically never "need" to buy another round. It also helps that I've condensed calibers down to 11, from 24.
That said, I still end up buying more than I shoot.
Heck yeah! In video you heard what calibers I keep. It’s just simpler that way for me.
I do not recommend "don't touch" INSTEAD I recommend "EVENTUALLY ROTATE" Some years ago I fired off my dads old 12 ga that was DECADES OLD .... I bought some more that I will NOT wait decades or emergencies to use. ROTATE ROTATE ROTATE DEAGES THE AMMO AND periodically VERIFIES the stock ....
I will rotate at some point, that ammo in the cans is only 3 years old.
I have enough when im out of money and have physically run out of space to store more. Also have you not heard of hollow points? I heard they dont go straight through bodies
I carry hollow points in my EDC pistol and keep a few boxes for practice etc. but for SHTF I think it's waste of money to storage thousands of rounds of hollow points when FMJ will work just fine.
Where's the fun in that?
I shoot out of my ammo cans and stock cases of ammo, lol. Exact opposite of you. I have 5 cases of 9mm, 5 cases of 5.56, 3000 rounds of 00, #4 and #1 buck shot and a few hundred slugs. Every time I open a case for training purposes , I replace it on the same day. Ive been doing that for about 10 years now and its just working. I shoot a lot....I shoot 1000 rounds of 9mm and 1000 rounds of 5.56 a month. Ammo isnt worth a damn if you dont know how to shoot.. Damn sure gotta do something though....if something happens to me, my peeps are in decent shape.
We do the same each week, also headed to go shoot we always grab more ammo on the way to typically replace what we shoot.
I won't critique others' prep load outs, but I keep most of what you have. The biggest difference is I keep a load out for two long-distance bolt action for both hunting and defense. We live in the mountains, and I think being able to engage potential threats out beyond 600 yards is a priority and keep 6.5 Creedmoor and 22LR (mostly varmint hunting for 22) in bulk for that reason
Very solid plan!!
Literally there’s no such thing as to much ammo period actually you can never have enough
Facts!
I've made it a habit to spend roughly $100 every payday on ammo. (Granted I'm paid byweekly) I do either local, or if I catch some sales online. Various calibers as well.
Great action plan!!
Goodly amount. My question is do you reload, it decreases reliance on others. I make like a brass goblin and do range brass sweeps. I commonly get the big 3 for me, 9mm, 40 S&W, and 5.56 which I load to .223 Rem standard. A friend gave me about 300 5.56 cases, just as I'm finishing off a batch of 69 gr BTHP that I can reach out to 650m 711 yds. Yes I know it won't have alot of energy at that range, but I can definitely be sure at lesser ranges.
I’m saving brass currently but I’m not reloading yet or haven’t bought any reloading equipment either.
Wrong question. The one who correctly figures out where to hunker down will need very little, enough to hunt. The one who hunkers down in suburbia with hungry neighbors can never have enough and will almost certainly die.
Understand your point. Thanks for watching
I’m currently in suburbia but will quickly get out of dodge at the first sign of issues. Hopefully I will be ahead of most of that crowd.
I was with the family on Sunday, and we were talking about something (can't honestly remember what it was, initially), and it gravitated towards guns and ammo. My mom said something about how much ammo I have. And she used the words "a BUNCH of ammo". I said, "I really don't have that much, to be honest. And I could use a lot more." She just looked at me.
My current stash is:
~1500 rounds of 5.56 (all in magazines)
20 rounds of 6.5CM (for my bolt action hunting rifle)
~300 rounds of 9mm (EDC pistol)
~100 rounds of .45ADCP (for my 1911)
~100 rou8nds of 00 buck shot
What I'd really like is at LEAST 1000 rounds of each caliber. My previous financial situation wasn't as good as it is, now. So I plan on doing something about it. And hopefully, I can get very close to that goal by the end of the year. Of course I might wind up with another gun and it might be in another caliber, so I'll have to work on getting the numbers up on that ammo, too.
Thanks for watching, I buy ammo every week so that method and see if it works for you. I like you caliber choices as these are pretty common. 6.5 CM was super hard to find during 2020 so maybe start buying 6.5CM weekly for sure.
@@Georgia4Low True that on the 6.5CM. And what I did find was insanely expensive. But thankfully prices have come down.
If you own a .22 you have no excuse for not having a thousand rounds on hand at all times. Ten thousand is still cheap insurance!👍🇺🇸
I'm close to a 1,000rds now since the video was posted, just never really done much .22 shooting but understand it's uses.
@@Georgia4LowI have a Ruger 10/22, and it is my favorite gun to shoot. I highly recommend it, I have so much fun for a fraction of the price of shooting my shotgun or AR. 22lr is an incredible value!
@@James-Johnson313 I hear you on that. I lucked out and got one from an F class winner, it's capable of outshooting my capabilities.
22LR is a much unappreciated round. Humans are soft targets. They are effective at 200 yards. That is farther than most people can effectively shoot.
I reload most of my ammo but every time i see ammo for cheap ill get a few boxes
Does any one know where i can find bulk reloading bullets for cheap ??
I want to try my hand at reloading one day. Thanks for watching
I get my reloading supplies at Midway when it goes on sale.
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I'm thinking "I'll" never have "Enough".
Many say, minimum 1,000 rds per cal.
"I" think, minimum, 1,000 rds per "Gun".
But I would actually be more comfortable with 10,000 rds for my primary rifles and 5-6,000 rds for primary pistols.
there is no real right answer just do what you think works best for you.
1000 rounds per caliber? no way. like you said you would be more comfortable with 10k each that is my minimum then go from there
Great video on your organization of ammo based on reserves and necessity. Haven’t thought of permanent reserves kept separate from range ammo. And for the people that can’t seem to grasp the concept of true freedom, you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you don’t tread on other people rights. You simply cannot be over prepared. When SHTF people can become desperate and irrational. Especially when considering gangs,homelessness and those who arent prepared, desperate times calls for desperate measures when people will eventually want what you have(security,food,shelter). Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. One final note is with that much ammo, YOU can be the reason the people beside you are armed to protect themselves and those around them.
totally agree and thanks for watching
How Much Ammo is Enough??
Yes. Yes is the answer.
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My comfort level MINIMUM is 5-7000 per caliber... 10000 is the goal... Again that is per caliber... I also like having 5- 7 magazines per firearm minimum, for handguns, and about 21 for AR platform rifles...
Needless to say, I feel that the hour is late, for those who haven't been stocking up before now.
@johnlacasse8893 yes that window is closing. Thanks for watching
Ans : Not enough
How you fit 6 hundred 00 Buck shells in two medium sized ammo cans?
yeah I may have mis-spoke, I'll confirm but it's 200pcs per 50cal can and they are perfectly stacked inside the can.
How about 10% for the big guy?
lol, bet he gets more than 10%
and what will you do against fighhter jets and tanks? (we are talking about when shtf right?)
Didn’t work out to well for us in Afghanistan.
This is a question I see repeating a lot. On the face of it, it looks obvious, but the truth is, as he said “Afghanistan” says it all. So does Vietnam. I recall that a West Point General or Colonial said that a nation of citizens can definitely hold off a superior military. I think it’s true. While I hope it never ever comes to that and I hope for peace eternal, I think if you consider it deeply you may come to a similar conclusion.
Agreed!! Thanks
ALL that ammo is going to stay behind when you have to evacuate
yes at some point we made need to evacuate, for us we don't live in any of the major cities, more rural area.
@@Georgia4Low Well if you live IN city, then yea its getting left behind but if you are out in the country and have acres of land and you have a food supply to last a few yrs, then yes all that ammo is GREAT to have.
That is more my goal is to get out of the city and live more in the country.
People in the country will have guns and food so no "smart" person will hit those homes.
In the city on the other hand, its going to be a war zone.
@@ACommenterOnRUclips you have it wrong. The lack of water in the cities will FORCE everyone to evacuate and after they get some water, they aint going back into the city, They'll be headed to the farms for livestock and stored grain.
I haven't found any good 556 rounds, like OT, BTHP, SMK, but I did find some 223 in that category so I've been buying that. I'm going to try your method
Yeah at time open tip or even soft point 5.56 is hard to find but FMJ will get the job done.
@@Georgia4Low that was a thought I had about your stash. I have defensive rounds but because of how I have just been buying recently, but keep a lot more FMJ that would have to be used as defensive rounds if SHTF
FMJ works well for defensive rounds, biggest liability is over penetration but I believe lots of that goes away once the lights go out, heck lots of people hunt wild hogs with FMJ 5.56.
Not enough is always the answer.
So true! Thanks for watching
Centerfire, I'm rolling my own, 9mm 60% less cost than the store, 5.56 45% less cost than the store, 410 defensive rounds 80% less cost than the store. At normal shooting rates anywhere from 2-4 years of supply.
Have components for another 2-4 years.
This small town is not only worth defending, but in town we've got about three guns and a combined 500-1,000 rounds for every man, woman in child in town.
To those who say I'll take ammo from preppers, thanks for the comedy. We got a laugh from that.
A quiet .22lr with a good can. grab some subs. 835 cci. 5,000 rds
Hornady black is my go to for defense.. that's a nasty round .
Yes it is.
Myself, I've found it much less expensive to practice and carry by reloading everything I shoot except rimfire.. I have about ten thousand rounds in storage along with components for another ten thousand rounds. This total includes shotshells, rifle, handgun and rimfire ammo. I know that in an SHTF situation in this town I will probably be support staff for the local militia, supplying services such as reloading, cleaning firearms, training and supplying food.
I've had conversations with our small town mayor about the state of civilization. He knows he has a militia of at least 200 well armed men and older teens with dozens of veterans, active duty and reserve military. We probably have 1,500 to 2,500 guns in town and an estimated one to two million rounds of ammo.
Wife and I are retired and live in a small home on a half acre. On that half acre we have fifteen hundred square feet of garden, thirteen fruit trees, seventeen berry bushes, and a grape vine. What we don't eat fresh; we can, dehydrate, freeze, pickle, ferment and cold store our produce. The garden produces typical vegetables, kitchen, household and medicinal herbs. The next expansion of the garden will be one thousand square feet to grow winter wheat which we will grind to flour. .
We are prepared for numerous routine things, storms, flooding, power outages, and other natural disasters. We are prepared for stock market crash or to continue to make money in the stock market and live to old age.
One part of our routine is to get regular exercise and stay busy. I walk the dog over a thousand miles a year, most of that carrying a pack that weighs between 15 and 27 pounds. My wife rides the stationary bicycle, does the stretches and keeps house. Between the exercising, the garden and chores we average over two hours of exercise a day. On a busy day we have both put in a full day of labor helping someone move last fall. I even made $240 clearing snow this winter, about half of that with a shovel. I had my blood pressure checked yesterday at the dentist, 110/68. Not bad for a 67 year old.
As part of our preparations we have removed trees that could fall on our house, driveway and power lines, have a tarp, lumber and nails to cover a damaged roof, and similar home preparations. We have two generators, one which could power the home and one that can be lent to neighbors to power a refrigerator, freezer or sump pump in a power outage. We have 40 gallons of gasoline stored by keeping the vehicles and three gas cans full plus 45 pounds of propane. We have hundreds of gallons of water for washing and flushing and about fifty gallons for drinking. We live in a neighborhood with many preppers, firearms owners, gardeners, and people who raise chickens. We have friends on acreages that raise goats, horses, cattle.
Our skills include shooting, cleaning firearms, reloading, fishing, filleting fish, small animal butchering, gardening, food preservation, making wine and vinegar, cooking, baking, some mechanic skills, some bricklaying, weaving, crocheting, splicing rope, sharpening tools, bicycle maintenance, musician, and making jewelry. Our previous jobs included EMT, chef and restaurant manager, chemical engineer, hazmat technician, first responder and trainer, substitute teacher, delivery driver and kitchen general help.
I want to encourage you all, it is not just about firearms and stored food. Stay physically and mentally active, practice some old skills, know your neighbors, maintain your home and tools, be part of the community and be ready.
Thank You! Some of the best advise for everyone.
I don't stockpile ammo for SHTF, I stockpile ammo to shoot. There have been years where the wife and I have gone through over 12,000 rounds. Now that we are retired there's not as much need to blow off steam, so we have been averaging about 3-5,000 rounds a year.
Still, with another bad year to find ammo that could start any time I don't mind having 10k in stock and components for most of another 10k. This includes 22lr, 22 mag, 17 HMR, 9mm, 380, 5.56, 410 gauge and 20 gauge.
Reloading is the way to go if you have time and shooting is a hobby in the family.
The weather is getting better, I'm going to assemble my new clay thrower this week. That means I'll be reloading shotshells by next weekend.
Sounds like a solid plan, thanks for watching
There’s no such thing as too much , and that’s going to be especially true when Sniffy and Cackles are installed again.
Facts!!
They will “win” again too. I’m almost certain of it..
Never have enough 100,000+ may last a year
no way you would use 100k rds in a year and still be alive.
the answer is however much you can carry in a hurry up and get out situation... you can always go ammo hunting when you get to a safe place... but i wouldnt keep a stockpile for the next guy in the house
Some people don't have enough and others have to much. If things come to shooting our way out of this mess you don't have enough. You can only servive so many shootouts, depending on how lucky you are. I am more stocking for my kids snd grsndkids. They will need it unfortunately.
same here, I truly believe my adult kids and future grandkids will need these weapons and ammo at some point. I keep buying for them and myself lol as I enjoy guns anyways.