Saws guys, Saws. A lot of people are not bringing those and for processing firewood and building shelter it is far more usefull then axe and also safer. Sometimes, I am also bringing hatchet, but good saw like Silky Bigboy Outback together with chopper like Skrama 240 goes a long way and is far more versatile.
Wanted to comment this as well! Saws are lighter, more precise (great for notching), and safer! I’ve seen too many injuries with buddies having hatchets and axes deflect and end up having to glue up gashes in their legs.
@@chowly I've never been injured with an ax (more than a small cut for a patch), but I also once witnessed a guy drive an axe into his leg through his shoe in the toe area. It wasn't a pretty sight 😨 so I've been really careful with the axe ever since.
random little top for you, to help keep your water from freezing overnight put powdered drink mix like Gatorade in it and it lowers the freezing point by roughly 20 degrees. Also store your bottles upside down as water freezes from the top down and if its cold enough where its still gonna freeze some at least you'll be able to drink some of the water assuming it doesn't completely freeze
I am a lover of hiking and been going to the mountains alot (I was born and live in a mountainous area). For many years I have been obsessed with survival, prepping, "tactical stuff", etc. A couple of times I went to such remote places where I got lost, and had to stay there more than I expected. When I saw Josh's rifle and huge backpack at the beginning of the video, I knew right away that there was too much stuff there). I'll sharesome of my survival kit. I won't list something as trivial as a kit for fire and the like, but for example, I use a sniper's mat in addition to a sleeping bag for sleeping. I am a Ukrainian, so I don't have a "gucci" rifle, instead I use a good proven single barrel 12 or 16 caliber. And from my experience, the main rule I've come to is to have a minimum of stuff. The heavier your backpack, the worse. And the second rule is that even if you have a whole vanload of stuff, but zero skills, it won't help you. First skills, then equipment.
There’s a sweet spot for everything and “minimum of stuff” can easily turn into unnecessary suckfest. Also good to keep in mind that rucksack size and weight are two different things, many items can be lighter when investing a bit more money. Multipurpose is good in most things, not all. Etc.
Minimum of stuff, multifunctional and skill. btw, Ukrainian ? Carpathians ? Never been in Ukraine but know Slovak side quite well. I heard that the Carpathians in Ukraine are amazing 🙂
@@Martin-xp2wm Oh yes, the mountains are something incredible. Of course, our is not like the Alps, but for me personally I adore both ours and the Alps, but unfortunately I have not been to the Alps yet. I am in the Zakarpattia region, most of the mountains are not particularly big but the really big ones like Pip Ivan, Menchul, and Hoverla are a bit of a drive away. I recently returned from the war after i got WIA, and now my goal is to climb all the remaining peaks after full recovery, then go back to war. And if I survive and the war is over, my main goal is Everest. If Ukraine survives, I strongly advise you to come here. Ukrainian nature is wonderful
@@prostrel Take care and be carefull there. Hope that our leaders finally get courage to support Ukraine more, you are defending now not only Ukraine but all of Europe. I have also some friends in Ukraine, in the Internation Legion ...... hope all of this ends soon. I am photographing wildlife so for me, Carpathians are dream 😄.
Pretty good alternative IME as well. I used to have an entrenching tool, you know the military style that folds in two parts, and even though it was a kinda Chinese knock-off, it behaved fine. I slightly honed the side edges and it chopped through a lot of things. Alas, with so many moving parts it started getting all wobbly. Made the mistake of lending it and never came back. Gonna try with a folding camping shovel, you know the type that only folds in one part, with a wooden handle (like the Russian entrenching tool), and I'm gonna follow what you did of working a bit on the handle's finish.
It's so funny that Drew brought all his tactical stuff. That would be me. I'm glad we gun guys are getting out of our comfort zone and taking classes like this. Thanks for the great content, guys!
"Punishment for being weak!" We all have to get punished at some point!!.... 👍 😂😂 I was punished the other night, freezing in my tiny cabin cuz I didn't have the right sleep system!! 🥶 ⛺ Bivvy bag is my next purchase! Sleeping pad...maybe a colder rated bag as well...😂🎉
After retiring from the Marine Corps in 2002, I moved to New Zealand. I had big plans to hike, camp, and hunt the back country. The problem was everywhere you want to go is up hill. I got my gear together as I did in the military and headed out. It quickly occurred to me that I was sucking major wind. I kept running into other hunters and hikers out there who had a third of the gear I did and breezed by me with a smile on their faces! I went back home and threw all my heavy military kit in the closet. I asked a few hunters and hikers what they took for over night trips, then obtained the same gear they recommended. Life was much better and I did not miss my old gear at all.😊
I go backpacking pretty often so I'm set. I will say that saws are more energy efficient than axes. Silky saws are some of the best. Another useful tool is a settlers wrench.
I went hammock camping in Upstate NY at 30 degrees for my bachelor party the night before my wedding. Got married right when the Salmon run started. I got the GI cold weather sleep system. I used the green bag and let my brother (from NC) use the black bag. Needless to say, I was cold all dang night, but it was a great time.
Instead of using a water bottle which may leak as the water cools and the plastic/metal contracts, just heat a fist-size rock, wrap it with a small towel and tie it in a cloth bag (I use a empty Crown Royal bag) (recycle, reuse) and place it in the bottom of your sleeping bag! P.S. Don't use a smooth surfaced rock as these have probably been in running/standing water and may still have enough moisture in them to rupture when heating them! Chemical hand warmers are nice for truck camping but are one-time only!
Finally! Someone addressed bringing items for allergies. 😃 Almost no really gives that any major thought or discussion, aside from saying they include a couple of tablets of benadryl, unless they have them. Eye wash is another big item. Get something dirty or irritating in one or both of your eyes and you'll quickly realize how important eye wash, rinse is.
That's something I'm acutely aware of, having a friend with very severe allergies. However, to be real, out in the sticks probably isn't the best place for those people, especially if their allergies are bad enough they carry epipens. Once those run out you won't be getting any more out in the woods, and if things really go south with anaphylaxis, nothing but a chopper is going to make it to a lot of those remote locations.
@@tackytrooperThis stuff isn't made for everyday. If people have to go into the woods they do not have a choice. And besides, most seasonal allergies aren't so bad to warrant carrying an epipen
I am starting a new base camp in a week on a friend's property and this video reminded me of something I knew but had forgotten..."Don't pack your fears - you can't carry it all: increase your knowledge, not your base weight". BTW, as cold as it might have been on the perimeter of the shelter, I would have preferred that than to need the bathroom at stupid O'clock and have to roll over those between me and the exit LOL
Top notch content, gentlemen. Thank you. Just a couple of thoughts I had about water and weapons: in my time on active duty not once did I ever complain about to much water, or to many bullets. You may not need all the water you carry, but someone else might forget a container or have a failure in the field. Plus, when things do go bad for really real, that day scout might easily turn into a multiple day crisis. I personally believe we should carry a full load for any training. It helps ingrain item accountability, and awareness of what to do when you're trying to balance defense and survival. Train how you'll fight, because your first mistake will be your last. Godspeed, gentlemen.
Something we used in Alaska was put your poncho down (if not using as shelter), then sleep pad, then woobie, then sleep system (which ours included the goretex bivy) and that system worked pretty good when we had to sleep outside in the open one night when it was like -21. Or put poncho, then bivy, then the rest and it works good as well.
The more I see your videos on camping/outdoor survival, the more I can tell you guys don't have much experience backpacking. It will be interesting to see how that changes in the future
Yep, first time backpacking at age 16 I took a 12# kapok-insulated bag, a Coleman lantern (no spare fuel or mantles) and a guitar plus canned food. Forgot sunscreen, fished all day shirtless at 8000'. Hike back out trying to hold those unpadded shoulder straps off the blisters was memorable, I still wince 56 yrs later. Good times!
First time I went Backcountry hunting I learned that I needed to re-evaluate my gear, get lighter gear pack less in general, freezedried/dehydrated meals versus the MREs that I packed, and get a lightweight synthetic stock rifle versus my wood furniture hunting rifle that I took , and I can definitely downgrade from my Ozark trail tent to a tarp tent and use a trekking as a tent pole instead of packing both
Enjoyed watching your loadout video. In my younger years I did a lot of backpacking, seven times down into Grand Canyon, a couple of times in the Superstition Mountains and other various trails throughout Arizona. I had to laugh at the size of your pack outs and the large variety of items. When hiking I tried to keep my pack at 31 lb. With experience I learned what to take, essentially what you actually used and what you should have left at home. Making a detailed written list and checking off the unused items after returning from my trips helped a lot. We usually had 6-8 guys in our group and always held a prep meeting prior to a hike. It was especially important to stress to any "newbies" how to pack as light as possible (such as no 32 oz. cans of beans). On one particular trip into the Grand Canyon, I caught a nice rainbow trout in the Little Colorado River. When I walked into camp with it, one of the non-fishermen in our group said "how are you going to cook that large fish in that little backpack skillet", I responded "I'm go to fillet him and cut him into smaller pieces". The "newbie" in our group took off running to his tent and when he returned said "hey use this" as he handed me a 10" cast iron skill. I guess he missed the speech about packing light.
In case no one else has commented, look into some backpacking style sleep mats, they can be warmer and way more compact then the foam pads you guys have. I recently went on a backpacking trip with my girlfriend and she has a sleep pad with a 7.something R-value that packs down to the size of a Nalgene. A little shorter then one but a little fatter
One thing to help you stay warm in the shelter, check the wind directions. In my area, wind comes from the NW in winter, SW in summer. Angle your shelter to block the wind and if able, don’t make it a straight tube. Do a circular shelter with one entrance. That will also stop wind from shooting through a bunch. Use your packs to use as a wind block for the entrance, especially when there are multiple people, you can make a good wall.
When I went through tom browns tracker school we went into the woods with nothing but a knife and not even at first we flint knapped our own knife made fire from ice, friction,bow drill,and a few others plus making a fox nest I remember it was 20 below up there that winter and I stripped down to my boxers climbed insidey nest packer FULL of leaves and stayed warm all night long when real survival situations kick in y'all had sooooo many luxuries we didn't even have a back pack just our person we made our own snares , axe head and handle, hammers, and rope from tree vines and bark peelings and dead falls to catch and kill game studied will plants and locating ginsang what bugs and small lifeform u can cook and eat or even eat raw. primitive skills are so important because I know I'm my heart that if someone is coming up my driveway me and my family could run out the back door with NOTHING and I could keep us alive for weeks and when I say NOTHING I MEAN NOTHING I have thermal,nods, suppressed weapons,gear out the yang gps plus my own off grid wifi server that runs of raspberrie pie software but although this stuff is nice u guys should really get more in touch woth nature thw hard reality of survival it will truly change thw way u look at life 🧬 as a whole amd can change u as a person for thw rest of your life people from the city get out in survival situations all the time and the ones who make it out Alive usually mive to the mountains and retire up there living off the land
@@richardschoellhammer yeah man it is I got inspired in 2001 after seeing the movie the hunted with benicio del Toro and Tommy Lee Jones i loved the knife that was used then did research and seen tom brown did the knife for that movie and also helped with the tracking parts that Tommy Lee taught real story that movie is based off of tom.browns lifestyle as a trainer and instructor on the tommy lee end but i decide to go i went to several classes him and his son did while all my freinds wanted to shoot guns I wanted to learn how to survive fr although I realize Alot of things about that movie are not realistic Alot of the things are very realistic the fighting, survival,escape, training etc one of my favorite tommy Lee Jones quotes from that movie was "ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO KILL MENTALLY THE PHYSICAL PART IS EASY THE DIFFICULT PART IS LEARNING HOW TO TURN IT OFF!"
I have to share something ‼️ I saw a video, the outdoorsman brought a fresh roll of plastic wrap. The kind that you wrap your sandwich with. Get 3 or 4 trees close together & simple roll it from tree to tree. Over the top too, then use what you have around to camouflage/insulation. It'll block wind & moisture. Hope I made that clear lol.
Versatile stuff. There's another channel where he builds a canoe from branches and plastic wrap. (Advoko Makes is the channel) Seems like a great item to have, and I have a roll of heavy duty shipping wrap for just that reason.
I'm in central Kentucky, I'm gonna check it out. I have a 350 acre farm that could be a good place to do a class. Thank you guys for keeping us informed on cool shit like this
Suggestion, as part of the class have everyone put on the pack and spend time hiking or even doubletime with the pack. It will make some realize they need to do road work.
Hello from New Zealand. This is something I have always wanted to do but never did due to circumstances over my years. I haven't been out to practice anything, I do what I can from home in the city. If time came to the crunch, I dearly hope my family and I can survive if ever it came to heading to the bush. Thank you, guys.
Plenty of places to head to in NZ mate. Stay some where with a Doc hut. They have water, mattress and a wood stove. Then you can branch out from There and get comfortable in the bush. Set up a fly and rough it in the trees etc. Don’t forget to pay for the doc hut. Only a few dollars. Go for it. You can’t be further than an hour from a track. Enjoy
they got them at the saw shop down the road where I live. about fifty bucks and pretty much the same as one of those Granfor Bruks Gucci type axes these bushcraft dudes pack.
Just went on a 2,5 day hike in the mountains and was very grateful that my sleeping bag and insulation layers were inside dry bags. Definitely a consideration if there is a chance of rain or heavy mist.
I've been in the infantry for just shy of 8 years, I would say y'all packed pretty well compared to how we pack minus the water filtration (Army will give us water lol) but in terms of a tarp, I'd reccomend a 8x10 you can make a lean too or a standard tent. For me ponchos dont work well in heavy rains they leak a little bit and im 6'2 so I don't exactly fit either. One more thing is all of you guys had one thing in common. Cold feet. Y'all had jet boils and Nalgene so when you wake up and your feet are either A) fluff your bag to produce more air in the cavities of the material B) boil some water in your jet boil and put it by your feet, it'll hold heat for about 5 hours
I'm going to the April class, couldn't be more excited. This video couldn't be timed better, as I'm putting together my gear this weekend to see what i might be missing. Keep up the good work!
I second silky saw, gomboi bigboi in the outback edition, I would also recommend an axe, 24 inch is nice, but an 18 works fine as a great in between, a sturdy knife LT Wright makes really nice knives and can’t forget, a multi tool. That’s covers the basis for the tools I take.
Chest rigs are one of the best and versatile items to have, they don't have to carry mags but they are extra pockets for whatever else you want to carry on your person for easy access.
being totally blind, I have dressed my own game, birds and deer, built and maintained my own fire solo, and used my 30.06 to fend off a would be animal attack at night. Trakcs were destroyed by the rain next morning when the guide came to my campsight to get me for the bear hunt, but he figured by the damage to the shelter, small bear or mountain lion. so if a guy uses braille and cane can figure it out, you can too. All can be worked around with thought.
Drew if you’re looking for a good axe you should check out Gransfors Bruk’s axes. They’re pricey now adays but I’ve got 5 in all different sizes from hand hatchets to splitting mauls that I’ve had for years now. Great quality and craftsmanship and they come hair shaving sharp I’ve put mine through some serious abuse. Just rub some boiled linseed oil on the handle once a year and keep it sharp and it will last a lifetime
Get a good saw with the good axe Drew. A 21" boreal or whatever packable bucksaw you like is vital. A 2ish pound 26" boys axe makes short work of most shelter sized trees.
I'd be a cool little trick to also store your sleeping bag inside a waterproof kind of barrel bag I'm sure you've seen one of those, probably very easy to find same size. Just to make sure sleeping will always be somewhat comfortable even if you got wet along the way.
You mentioned your JetBoil for boiling water at freezing temperatures. It is recommended an alcohol stove of sort for freezing temperatures. It will improve your cooking and heating experience. The cold temperatures affect the gas for the JetBoil and fuel tends to not burn as well and you may need to warm your fuel caniste.
Sweet... I looked into the class, and the PA location they do it at is only like a bit over an hour away from me (I'm never that lucky when I look up classes). Been many a year since Boy Scouts, and could certainly use a refresher...
should plan a trip to rocky mountains , Im sure there are a lot that would like your classes, being former search and rescue and firefighter, I have always and still continue to show family and friends things on survival , being 61 its never to old or young to learn and keep learning, never know when skills will be needed either in wilderness or urban..
Here's what I take, usmc mainpack, bivy sack, sleeping bag, poncho liner, USMC tarp, 3 MREs depending on planned activity level, Etool, basic IFAK and small IFAK, NVD compatible helmet, PVS14, rifle, 10 mags, gloves/eye pro, 2 pair socks, 1 extra shirt, and multi tool. Only thing I'm not sure on is water, 2 canteens and a Nalgene bottle isn't enough for 2 days so maybe bring a gallon jug in your pack or a life straw for filtering
I learned a lot of this thru trial and error when I was younger and doing elk hunts in the rockies. One thing i wish I would’ve learned more of was cordage. Interesting to see some of the surprising decisions with your equipment choices. Honestly, this video makes me glad for some absolutely bitterly cold and frustrating experiences I’ve encountered.
Josh's pack looks like the Eberlestock Terminator, very nice pack. I have their Operator, Phantom, Gunrunner, and Apprentice packs, and I love all of them.
I feel the gloves bit... mostly due to the countless splinters making me ineffective when setting up a shelter while I was at boy scouts camp... also mosquitos are terrible even with repellent. Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
im a little late to the party on this one, but my family has some property up here in minnesota that looks very similar to the property you guys were on in this video. it gets significantly colder up here than down there and me and a few friends have been doing some winter camping already this year and are going to try and do some stuff like what you guys did in this video. if you guys ever need a place in minnesota to teach a class like this, I got the land for it and would love to learn. sub zero weather is a fun challenge. you guys are inspiring. I love this kind of content!
I watch a lot of these sorts of videos and something that I almost never hear mentioned is the inclusion of a good knife/ax sharpener. Dull knives/axes are more dangerous than sharp ones. Worksharp makes a combo unit with diamond/ceramic/leather surfaces that I finally settled on as the best, but a very minimum of a medium stone is a must.
Every time I see this type of videos I think dam, me and my friends at 10yrs old were practicing survival. In my elementary school, they taught us first aid and how to stop bleeding, CPR, and the guy that taught it was a Vietnam vet so he taught some of us a lot more.
I just signed up for the April class! I’ll make sure to bring a big boy “hatchet” 😁 I’ll look into saws too, I see several people suggesting that instead.
I know tourniquets are something that everybody carries now, but I don’t understand why that’s everybody’s first go to item to prevent bleeding. If you talk to combat medics or people who spend a lot of time in the outdoors, you should have an Israeli bandage on your person first and foremost, secondary would be a tourniquet. Most wounds that you would encounter in the field are not going to be bullet wounds. You don’t need to apply a tourniquet you need to apply a bandage first.
I'll be honest, the bulk of your sleep system seems overkill, but comfortable. There are days where it gets bellow freezing in VA. I rock a mylar tarp, poncho, clear tarp, bivi, poncho liner, and the clothes on my body. With those I can make through even sub zero as the clear tarp and mylar tarp can build a green house if you have a fire outside, or wrap yourself in the poncho liner wrapped in the mylar tarp, inside the bivi inside a makeshift shelter. It'll keep you alive. What I need to add is a flare gun and GPS, I'm running map based land nav.
Love your channel! This video hits at a good time for me. Weather is changing here in the PacNW where we mostly have conifer rain forest conditions, and I'm getting ready to spend the spring and summer mainly in the woods. I kind of cringed at the amount of stuff that you packed in for a 2 day class. My sleep system is an 8x8 reflective tarp, poncho, teton lightweight 20 degree bag (more like 40), an inflatable mat, and inflatable pillow. Four pounds tops. Sleep systems typically take up the bulk of your backpack space, and after spending an obscene amount of money on different sleep systems, I've figured it out. I stuff a hot nalgene bottle in the bottom of my bag if its going to get down below freezing with this system and it hasn't failed me yet. Waking up at 3am with cold feet is the worst. Reading some of the comments here suggesting silky outback saws (which I own) I would make a suggestion - the corona razortooth puts most silky saws to shame and is my goto. A saw is a must have on survival and backpacking trips for me. I no longer carry an axe/hatchet after doing so for nearly 30 years.
Didn't bring the silky, but I've heard good things about the razortooth - great suggestion. Which version do you have and how well does it work at felling up to 9" diameter trees?
@@dirty-civilian10" saw. 9" diameter tree would likely go faster with an axe. Cutting it up into fire rounds though, and shelter building is far superior with a saw. I love being able "build" when backpacking as opposed to hacking at material with an axe. I carried both for the longest time, yet I found 99 percent of the time I'm pulling the saw out, so I ditched the weight of my axes/hatchets.
I think it was 2009 but my unit at Ft Hood did a 3 day land nav exercise. It wasn't until I got out there that I noticed I had brought my bivy cover but not my actual sleeping bag. Nighttime temps were in the low 40's and they were the longest/coldest nights I spent in Texas.
Honest question, any reason to not use the tarps/ panchos you all brought to supplement the wood/ leaf structure? Over top if there was rain, control airflow at ends or setup all on windward side to control cold air ingress?
A folding 10 to 100 watt folding solar panel. Walmart/academy / bass pro have store brand solar lantern lights that collapse and have a single USB charger. It's low volt but works.
Keeping a hose close to your body or feeding it to be completely in your pack when its cold out is essential. My first hunting trip i only had my hydration bladder when hunting elk in november and it froze. Couldnt drink anything until late in the day when the sun came up. The next year i had both a water bottle just in case and the hydration bladder was mostly packed in my pack to keep warm in the mornings. Ended up using the water bottle more often because it wouldn't freeze as much. The lessons you learn, right? And the boo boo kit was used a lot including pain meds, but surprisingly not much for me other than my feet. It was more used for the other 4 people out with me. I ended up having terribly fit boots on ehich gave me blisters and had to take care of that the second day out with my knife, bandaids, and some polysporin. Never ever go in boots you havent vetted in a long walk or a break in. Invest jn good footware more than anything.
One of the most important tools are a hand saw. Always carry inexpensive in conjunction with your hatchet/axe or bushcraft knife. The saw will save you calories that’ll you need later if staying for more than 2 days.
Very interesting,informative! Been prepping for the worst of timrs,disasters,etc.nonMiltary,.Not much for group think.But veri ft ovation of my thinking on this subject of packing up moving out ,esp. In a hurry takes me some straining to do. Was never fast when young. Now cannot do much real. Movement,standing ,or the normal activities of life. I probably never bug out because of my slowness.But dig in. Enjoyed seeing what all you packed You make me look a little light!
I would argue against disposable things like hand warmers and such.. Yeah they may be cheap and not take up a lot of space, but you are not training if you don’t embrace the suck.
Yep.. Best friend and I would walk into the woods with our school bags, sleeping bag and a fixed blade knife and build a shelter as young as 5th graders.. Amazing childhood and awesome memories.. The last couple years I’ve went into the woods for during the winter for a weekend to make sure I can still do it in my 50’s… Glad my small group has existing shelters at our various locations.. But I’m pretty confident I can build temporary shelter to get me by until long term shelter can be built..
just a note for later, if possible try to include pack weight. it is important for some people to compare different setup and be aware of useless weight or things that could be easily swapped.
I'm blessed that my wife is an id physician, but I highly recommend getting broad spectrum antibiotics to keep on hand (something stronger than penacillin for sure).
Optics planet or any other site but the Cold Steel trail boss. I have two I use regularly for firewood. I’ve taken down small trees. Planning to get another for off-roading.
Silky Saw all day every day. Axes are fun at home but not so practical on the move. Lose the nalgenes and straws. Get some smart water bottles and a Sawyer Squeeze filter. Lose the Jetboils. They’re heavy and bulky. I have an Optimus Crux burner paired with a titanium pot. All you need for fire is a bic lighter, cotton balls rubbed in Vaseline, and a flint and steel in case if the lighter doesn’t work. And yes get a multi tool like a leatherman Skeletool. Fixed blade knife? Can’t go wrong with a Mora Companion or Mora Garberg. The most critical thing to keep in mind when packing is ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain.
Look into syl nylon tarps they are very very light waterproof and pack very small!! Just saying! And Bring a good saw like Sven saw light and compact and can process wood fast!!
You guys should do a video on covering long distances with a pack aka backpacking. Its a whole different animal than hiking to a single spot, setting up, taking down, and hiking back.
A quality waterproof lightweight $550 Marmot sleeping bag was one of the best purchases I ever made before hitch hiking. I was NEVER cold. All the moms that would pick me up would always ask that. Nope :D
Requested to clarify: approx. how many kgs does the bag packs weigh with all the necessary stuff. My survival bag is a 65 ltr tactical molle bag and weighs around 20 kgs with all the gear. I do have overkill items like fishing rod, full body raincoat apart from a poncho and jacket, full tang kukri apart from a multiutility shovel & hatchet tool extra stove, climbing rope for making a rappelling harness, pepper spray etc .Thanks
This sounds exactly like the night my son did his Wilderness survival merit badge (I was a Scout Dad who was there with him). It was 20 degrees outside in a debris hut. You will be cold but you will live!
Watching all these shelters in other parts of the country looks so easy compared to Western Washington…. Let’s get together in the rain forest for some specialty training!
Not that hard to create a shelter using doug fir boughs and vine maple poles. Western WA/OR has a lot more options for foraging and shelter building than the Eastern parts of the states, that's for sure.
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Saws guys, Saws. A lot of people are not bringing those and for processing firewood and building shelter it is far more usefull then axe and also safer. Sometimes, I am also bringing hatchet, but good saw like Silky Bigboy Outback together with chopper like Skrama 240 goes a long way and is far more versatile.
Wanted to comment this as well! Saws are lighter, more precise (great for notching), and safer! I’ve seen too many injuries with buddies having hatchets and axes deflect and end up having to glue up gashes in their legs.
@@chowly I've never been injured with an ax (more than a small cut for a patch), but I also once witnessed a guy drive an axe into his leg through his shoe in the toe area. It wasn't a pretty sight 😨 so I've been really careful with the axe ever since.
Not only safer but far more quiet for environments where that is a concern!
Yeap.. a small saw and a small axe for redundancy, and it will take less space( silky saw and a shrade scaxe10 axe) for me.
They over packed for the brand placement.lol must not of had a saw connection.
random little top for you, to help keep your water from freezing overnight put powdered drink mix like Gatorade in it and it lowers the freezing point by roughly 20 degrees. Also store your bottles upside down as water freezes from the top down and if its cold enough where its still gonna freeze some at least you'll be able to drink some of the water assuming it doesn't completely freeze
Or in your sleeping bag
I am a lover of hiking and been going to the mountains alot (I was born and live in a mountainous area). For many years I have been obsessed with survival, prepping, "tactical stuff", etc. A couple of times I went to such remote places where I got lost, and had to stay there more than I expected. When I saw Josh's rifle and huge backpack at the beginning of the video, I knew right away that there was too much stuff there). I'll sharesome of my survival kit. I won't list something as trivial as a kit for fire and the like, but for example, I use a sniper's mat in addition to a sleeping bag for sleeping. I am a Ukrainian, so I don't have a "gucci" rifle, instead I use a good proven single barrel 12 or 16 caliber. And from my experience, the main rule I've come to is to have a minimum of stuff. The heavier your backpack, the worse. And the second rule is that even if you have a whole vanload of stuff, but zero skills, it won't help you. First skills, then equipment.
There’s a sweet spot for everything and “minimum of stuff” can easily turn into unnecessary suckfest. Also good to keep in mind that rucksack size and weight are two different things, many items can be lighter when investing a bit more money. Multipurpose is good in most things, not all. Etc.
Minimum of stuff, multifunctional and skill. btw, Ukrainian ? Carpathians ? Never been in Ukraine but know Slovak side quite well. I heard that the Carpathians in Ukraine are amazing 🙂
@@Martin-xp2wm Oh yes, the mountains are something incredible. Of course, our is not like the Alps, but for me personally I adore both ours and the Alps, but unfortunately I have not been to the Alps yet. I am in the Zakarpattia region, most of the mountains are not particularly big but the really big ones like Pip Ivan, Menchul, and Hoverla are a bit of a drive away. I recently returned from the war after i got WIA, and now my goal is to climb all the remaining peaks after full recovery, then go back to war. And if I survive and the war is over, my main goal is Everest. If Ukraine survives, I strongly advise you to come here. Ukrainian nature is wonderful
@@prostrel Take care and be carefull there. Hope that our leaders finally get courage to support Ukraine more, you are defending now not only Ukraine but all of Europe. I have also some friends in Ukraine, in the Internation Legion ...... hope all of this ends soon. I am photographing wildlife so for me, Carpathians are dream 😄.
Carnation forest. Cool band
Cold Steel shovel is my #1 tool. Refinish the handle with linseed and keep the edge sharp, it'll dig, cut, or chop just about everything.
Gotta try one in the future. Why do you refinish the handle?
@@samueljlarson It came with a poly or acrylic coating that felt slick. The linseed finish looks and feels better.
they're a pretty good tool
Pretty good alternative IME as well. I used to have an entrenching tool, you know the military style that folds in two parts, and even though it was a kinda Chinese knock-off, it behaved fine. I slightly honed the side edges and it chopped through a lot of things. Alas, with so many moving parts it started getting all wobbly. Made the mistake of lending it and never came back. Gonna try with a folding camping shovel, you know the type that only folds in one part, with a wooden handle (like the Russian entrenching tool), and I'm gonna follow what you did of working a bit on the handle's finish.
It's so funny that Drew brought all his tactical stuff. That would be me. I'm glad we gun guys are getting out of our comfort zone and taking classes like this. Thanks for the great content, guys!
I've ran across enough road-side hunters to never go into the backwoods without some sort of kit if I don't have to. ;)
Watching these guys made me feel really good about my skills lol
"Punishment for being weak!"
We all have to get punished at some point!!.... 👍 😂😂
I was punished the other night, freezing in my tiny cabin cuz I didn't have the right sleep system!! 🥶 ⛺
Bivvy bag is my next purchase!
Sleeping pad...maybe a colder rated bag as well...😂🎉
@@fubufb420 keep becoming prepared. don't stop brother!
After retiring from the Marine Corps in 2002, I moved to New Zealand. I had big plans to hike, camp, and hunt the back country. The problem was everywhere you want to go is up hill. I got my gear together as I did in the military and headed out. It quickly occurred to me that I was sucking major wind. I kept running into other hunters and hikers out there who had a third of the gear I did and breezed by me with a smile on their faces! I went back home and threw all my heavy military kit in the closet. I asked a few hunters and hikers what they took for over night trips, then obtained the same gear they recommended. Life was much better and I did not miss my old gear at all.😊
I go backpacking pretty often so I'm set. I will say that saws are more energy efficient than axes. Silky saws are some of the best. Another useful tool is a settlers wrench.
Thanks!
I went hammock camping in Upstate NY at 30 degrees for my bachelor party the night before my wedding. Got married right when the Salmon run started. I got the GI cold weather sleep system. I used the green bag and let my brother (from NC) use the black bag. Needless to say, I was cold all dang night, but it was a great time.
Before bed, fill a water bottle with hot water and put it in your sleep system by your feet. Will help keep your feet warm all night. Good video.
Or use the hand warmer things that’s what I use stays warmer longer then the bottle alone
outdoor boys
This has saved me from what otherwise would have been some very cold nights on several occasions.
This is why I like my metal bottle not plastic. Can set close to or over a fire
Instead of using a water bottle which may leak as the water cools and the plastic/metal contracts, just heat a fist-size rock, wrap it with a small towel and tie it in a cloth bag (I use a empty Crown Royal bag) (recycle, reuse) and place it in the bottom of your sleeping bag! P.S. Don't use a smooth surfaced rock as these have probably been in running/standing water and may still have enough moisture in them to rupture when heating them! Chemical hand warmers are nice for truck camping but are one-time only!
Finally! Someone addressed bringing items for allergies. 😃 Almost no really gives that any major thought or discussion, aside from saying they include a couple of tablets of benadryl, unless they have them. Eye wash is another big item. Get something dirty or irritating in one or both of your eyes and you'll quickly realize how important eye wash, rinse is.
That's something I'm acutely aware of, having a friend with very severe allergies. However, to be real, out in the sticks probably isn't the best place for those people, especially if their allergies are bad enough they carry epipens. Once those run out you won't be getting any more out in the woods, and if things really go south with anaphylaxis, nothing but a chopper is going to make it to a lot of those remote locations.
@@tackytrooperThis stuff isn't made for everyday. If people have to go into the woods they do not have a choice. And besides, most seasonal allergies aren't so bad to warrant carrying an epipen
A lesson I learned snow camping in the pa mountains-if your feet are cold, you're cold. Extremities are great at leeching heat.
I am starting a new base camp in a week on a friend's property and this video reminded me of something I knew but had forgotten..."Don't pack your fears - you can't carry it all: increase your knowledge, not your base weight". BTW, as cold as it might have been on the perimeter of the shelter, I would have preferred that than to need the bathroom at stupid O'clock and have to roll over those between me and the exit LOL
Top notch content, gentlemen. Thank you.
Just a couple of thoughts I had about water and weapons: in my time on active duty not once did I ever complain about to much water, or to many bullets. You may not need all the water you carry, but someone else might forget a container or have a failure in the field. Plus, when things do go bad for really real, that day scout might easily turn into a multiple day crisis.
I personally believe we should carry a full load for any training. It helps ingrain item accountability, and awareness of what to do when you're trying to balance defense and survival.
Train how you'll fight, because your first mistake will be your last.
Godspeed, gentlemen.
Water is the thing you can survive the least amount of time without its good to have redundancy when it comes to water
Something we used in Alaska was put your poncho down (if not using as shelter), then sleep pad, then woobie, then sleep system (which ours included the goretex bivy) and that system worked pretty good when we had to sleep outside in the open one night when it was like -21. Or put poncho, then bivy, then the rest and it works good as well.
The more I see your videos on camping/outdoor survival, the more I can tell you guys don't have much experience backpacking. It will be interesting to see how that changes in the future
Yep, first time backpacking at age 16 I took a 12# kapok-insulated bag, a Coleman lantern (no spare fuel or mantles) and a guitar plus canned food. Forgot sunscreen, fished all day shirtless at 8000'. Hike back out trying to hold those unpadded shoulder straps off the blisters was memorable, I still wince 56 yrs later. Good times!
First time I went Backcountry hunting I learned that I needed to re-evaluate my gear, get lighter gear pack less in general, freezedried/dehydrated meals versus the MREs that I packed, and get a lightweight synthetic stock rifle versus my wood furniture hunting rifle that I took , and I can definitely downgrade from my Ozark trail tent to a tarp tent and use a trekking as a tent pole instead of packing both
I can tell you’ve never went through any type training or ruck in the military. 😬
@@MrMEmEmEmEMEMEeeeeee that is awesome! I did stuff just like it! froze my butt off!
Yes 😂 they are not backpackers
Enjoyed watching your loadout video. In my younger years I did a lot of backpacking, seven times down into Grand Canyon, a couple of times in the Superstition Mountains and other various trails throughout Arizona. I had to laugh at the size of your pack outs and the large variety of items. When hiking I tried to keep my pack at 31 lb. With experience I learned what to take, essentially what you actually used and what you should have left at home. Making a detailed written list and checking off the unused items after returning from my trips helped a lot. We usually had 6-8 guys in our group and always held a prep meeting prior to a hike. It was especially important to stress to any "newbies" how to pack as light as possible (such as no 32 oz. cans of beans). On one particular trip into the Grand Canyon, I caught a nice rainbow trout in the Little Colorado River. When I walked into camp with it, one of the non-fishermen in our group said "how are you going to cook that large fish in that little backpack skillet", I responded "I'm go to fillet him and cut him into smaller pieces". The "newbie" in our group took off running to his tent and when he returned said "hey use this" as he handed me a 10" cast iron skill. I guess he missed the speech about packing light.
In case no one else has commented, look into some backpacking style sleep mats, they can be warmer and way more compact then the foam pads you guys have. I recently went on a backpacking trip with my girlfriend and she has a sleep pad with a 7.something R-value that packs down to the size of a Nalgene. A little shorter then one but a little fatter
*Huzzah* to whomever brought their son to participate!
I miss the America I grew up in and it's great to see it still survives in some places.
Why united stats dont survive? Where did you move to if I may ask?
One thing to help you stay warm in the shelter, check the wind directions. In my area, wind comes from the NW in winter, SW in summer. Angle your shelter to block the wind and if able, don’t make it a straight tube. Do a circular shelter with one entrance. That will also stop wind from shooting through a bunch. Use your packs to use as a wind block for the entrance, especially when there are multiple people, you can make a good wall.
Based tip.
When I went through tom browns tracker school we went into the woods with nothing but a knife and not even at first we flint knapped our own knife made fire from ice, friction,bow drill,and a few others plus making a fox nest I remember it was 20 below up there that winter and I stripped down to my boxers climbed insidey nest packer FULL of leaves and stayed warm all night long when real survival situations kick in y'all had sooooo many luxuries we didn't even have a back pack just our person we made our own snares , axe head and handle, hammers, and rope from tree vines and bark peelings and dead falls to catch and kill game studied will plants and locating ginsang what bugs and small lifeform u can cook and eat or even eat raw. primitive skills are so important because I know I'm my heart that if someone is coming up my driveway me and my family could run out the back door with NOTHING and I could keep us alive for weeks and when I say NOTHING I MEAN NOTHING I have thermal,nods, suppressed weapons,gear out the yang gps plus my own off grid wifi server that runs of raspberrie pie software but although this stuff is nice u guys should really get more in touch woth nature thw hard reality of survival it will truly change thw way u look at life 🧬 as a whole amd can change u as a person for thw rest of your life people from the city get out in survival situations all the time and the ones who make it out Alive usually mive to the mountains and retire up there living off the land
The tracker school is legit. One of my instructors trained heavily there!
@@richardschoellhammer yeah man it is I got inspired in 2001 after seeing the movie the hunted with benicio del Toro and Tommy Lee Jones i loved the knife that was used then did research and seen tom brown did the knife for that movie and also helped with the tracking parts that Tommy Lee taught real story that movie is based off of tom.browns lifestyle as a trainer and instructor on the tommy lee end but i decide to go i went to several classes him and his son did while all my freinds wanted to shoot guns I wanted to learn how to survive fr although I realize Alot of things about that movie are not realistic Alot of the things are very realistic the fighting, survival,escape, training etc one of my favorite tommy Lee Jones quotes from that movie was "ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO KILL MENTALLY THE PHYSICAL PART IS EASY THE DIFFICULT PART IS LEARNING HOW TO TURN IT OFF!"
The skills are legit but Brown is ,politely, a fabulist.
@@mrmicro22respectfully in what way may I ask?
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I saw a video, the outdoorsman brought a fresh roll of plastic wrap. The kind that you wrap your sandwich with.
Get 3 or 4 trees close together & simple roll it from tree to tree. Over the top too, then use what you have around to camouflage/insulation. It'll block wind & moisture.
Hope I made that clear lol.
Versatile stuff. There's another channel where he builds a canoe from branches and plastic wrap. (Advoko Makes is the channel)
Seems like a great item to have, and I have a roll of heavy duty shipping wrap for just that reason.
I'm in central Kentucky, I'm gonna check it out. I have a 350 acre farm that could be a good place to do a class. Thank you guys for keeping us informed on cool shit like this
Suggestion, as part of the class have everyone put on the pack and spend time hiking or even doubletime with the pack. It will make some realize they need to do road work.
You could have an event out there.Oh my god
Hello from New Zealand.
This is something I have always wanted to do but never did due to circumstances over my years.
I haven't been out to practice anything, I do what I can from home in the city.
If time came to the crunch, I dearly hope my family and I can survive if ever it came to heading to the bush.
Thank you, guys.
Plenty of places to head to in NZ mate.
Stay some where with a Doc hut. They have water, mattress and a wood stove.
Then you can branch out from
There and get comfortable in the bush.
Set up a fly and rough it in the trees etc.
Don’t forget to pay for the doc hut. Only a few dollars.
Go for it. You can’t be further than an hour from a track.
Enjoy
The husqvarna forester’s axe is a good bang for the buck. I don’t leave home without it.
they got them at the saw shop down the road where I live. about fifty bucks and pretty much the same as one of those Granfor Bruks Gucci type axes these bushcraft dudes pack.
@@steveelder5306 or get a fiskars, even better. Granfors is nice but I want to bring with me something that doesn't hurt when it gets chipped or dirty
Just went on a 2,5 day hike in the mountains and was very grateful that my sleeping bag and insulation layers were inside dry bags. Definitely a consideration if there is a chance of rain or heavy mist.
Why no Silky Saw??
Looks like that would be one of the best pieces of kit to have out there! IMHO. 👍🏼
Fo real, the fact that no one had even a bahco is crazy. I'd figure a folding saw would be a standard.
silky breaks easily. good cutting power, but beware for shtf
It makes me happy to see civilian gear still being g used and performing well with all the tactical craze going on lately.
The gear and guns are the hotness but the information in the survival world is paramount.
I've been in the infantry for just shy of 8 years, I would say y'all packed pretty well compared to how we pack minus the water filtration (Army will give us water lol) but in terms of a tarp, I'd reccomend a 8x10 you can make a lean too or a standard tent. For me ponchos dont work well in heavy rains they leak a little bit and im 6'2 so I don't exactly fit either. One more thing is all of you guys had one thing in common. Cold feet. Y'all had jet boils and Nalgene so when you wake up and your feet are either A) fluff your bag to produce more air in the cavities of the material B) boil some water in your jet boil and put it by your feet, it'll hold heat for about 5 hours
This channel deserves 3+ million subs easily.
Good deal . Always good to keep items ready . 30 rnd hole puncher supply mandatory accessories
Men have went to Antarctica with LESS!! lmao
@@sandymitchell8182 and fewer men returned.
@@sandymitchell8182and most have died.
I'm going to the April class, couldn't be more excited. This video couldn't be timed better, as I'm putting together my gear this weekend to see what i might be missing. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, see you there!
Get a saw. Axes are cool and all, but a saw is really useful. Just my two cents. Good luck.
@@brian_sipesilky gomboy saw
I second silky saw, gomboi bigboi in the outback edition, I would also recommend an axe, 24 inch is nice, but an 18 works fine as a great in between, a sturdy knife LT Wright makes really nice knives and can’t forget, a multi tool. That’s covers the basis for the tools I take.
My pack has almost a dozen snares working on my fishing kit and getting Bowfishing bow
Chest rigs are one of the best and versatile items to have, they don't have to carry mags but they are extra pockets for whatever else you want to carry on your person for easy access.
being totally blind, I have dressed my own game, birds and deer, built and maintained my own fire solo, and used my 30.06 to fend off a would be animal attack at night. Trakcs were destroyed by the rain next morning when the guide came to my campsight to get me for the bear hunt, but he figured by the damage to the shelter, small bear or mountain lion. so if a guy uses braille and cane can figure it out, you can too. All can be worked around with thought.
You're blind? And a guide left you at a camp site by yourself in bear country??
@@mightylaidlow1 he's gonna be really offended when he sees this
@@mightylaidlow1and someone let him have a firearm??
@@mightylaidlow1smelling bullshit 😂😂
Hennessy hammock rain fly is my go to, awesome shelter to keep in your bag with a poncho to keep on body.
Gotta get that dirt time !!...it really does teach you what you can add or takeout necessary items
16:45 Folding saw is the best and most efficient and precise tool you could get, highly recommend!
Drew if you’re looking for a good axe you should check out Gransfors Bruk’s axes. They’re pricey now adays but I’ve got 5 in all different sizes from hand hatchets to splitting mauls that I’ve had for years now. Great quality and craftsmanship and they come hair shaving sharp I’ve put mine through some serious abuse. Just rub some boiled linseed oil on the handle once a year and keep it sharp and it will last a lifetime
Great videos not everybody is born knowing how to do this stuff and it's good that you guys are teaching people like myself
Get a good saw with the good axe Drew. A 21" boreal or whatever packable bucksaw you like is vital. A 2ish pound 26" boys axe makes short work of most shelter sized trees.
I'd be a cool little trick to also store your sleeping bag inside a waterproof kind of barrel bag I'm sure you've seen one of those, probably very easy to find same size. Just to make sure sleeping will always be somewhat comfortable even if you got wet along the way.
You guys are a blessing. Such a relief from all the tacticool operators RUclips and instagram is flooded with.
You mentioned your JetBoil for boiling water at freezing temperatures. It is recommended an alcohol stove of sort for freezing temperatures. It will improve your cooking and heating experience. The cold temperatures affect the gas for the JetBoil and fuel tends to not burn as well and you may need to warm your fuel caniste.
Sweet... I looked into the class, and the PA location they do it at is only like a bit over an hour away from me (I'm never that lucky when I look up classes). Been many a year since Boy Scouts, and could certainly use a refresher...
should plan a trip to rocky mountains , Im sure there are a lot that would like your classes, being former search and rescue and firefighter, I have always and still continue to show family and friends things on survival , being 61 its never to old or young to learn and keep learning, never know when skills will be needed either in wilderness or urban..
Here's what I take, usmc mainpack, bivy sack, sleeping bag, poncho liner, USMC tarp, 3 MREs depending on planned activity level, Etool, basic IFAK and small IFAK, NVD compatible helmet, PVS14, rifle, 10 mags, gloves/eye pro, 2 pair socks, 1 extra shirt, and multi tool. Only thing I'm not sure on is water, 2 canteens and a Nalgene bottle isn't enough for 2 days so maybe bring a gallon jug in your pack or a life straw for filtering
I learned a lot of this thru trial and error when I was younger and doing elk hunts in the rockies. One thing i wish I would’ve learned more of was cordage. Interesting to see some of the surprising decisions with your equipment choices. Honestly, this video makes me glad for some absolutely bitterly cold and frustrating experiences I’ve encountered.
Josh's pack looks like the Eberlestock Terminator, very nice pack. I have their Operator, Phantom, Gunrunner, and Apprentice packs, and I love all of them.
Are you willing to trade the operator pack. I don't care what color
This episode flowed pretty well! Didn't feel like 28 minutes
Agonic.. BEST Belt I have ever owned!!
I feel the gloves bit... mostly due to the countless splinters making me ineffective when setting up a shelter while I was at boy scouts camp... also mosquitos are terrible even with repellent.
Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
im a little late to the party on this one, but my family has some property up here in minnesota that looks very similar to the property you guys were on in this video. it gets significantly colder up here than down there and me and a few friends have been doing some winter camping already this year and are going to try and do some stuff like what you guys did in this video.
if you guys ever need a place in minnesota to teach a class like this, I got the land for it and would love to learn. sub zero weather is a fun challenge.
you guys are inspiring. I love this kind of content!
I watch a lot of these sorts of videos and something that I almost never hear mentioned is the inclusion of a good knife/ax sharpener. Dull knives/axes are more dangerous than sharp ones. Worksharp makes a combo unit with diamond/ceramic/leather surfaces that I finally settled on as the best, but a very minimum of a medium stone is a must.
Every time I see this type of videos I think dam, me and my friends at 10yrs old were practicing survival.
In my elementary school, they taught us first aid and how to stop bleeding, CPR, and the guy that taught it was a Vietnam vet so he taught some of us a lot more.
I just signed up for the April class! I’ll make sure to bring a big boy “hatchet” 😁
I’ll look into saws too, I see several people suggesting that instead.
silky gomboy saw is the best you can buy
Best part...by far the 'stick in the eye' mock-up. I'm nominating you for an Emmy!
This should be on TV awesome stuff lads
I know tourniquets are something that everybody carries now, but I don’t understand why that’s everybody’s first go to item to prevent bleeding. If you talk to combat medics or people who spend a lot of time in the outdoors, you should have an Israeli bandage on your person first and foremost, secondary would be a tourniquet. Most wounds that you would encounter in the field are not going to be bullet wounds. You don’t need to apply a tourniquet you need to apply a bandage first.
"The big thing here is, we didn't die," haha
I'll be honest, the bulk of your sleep system seems overkill, but comfortable. There are days where it gets bellow freezing in VA. I rock a mylar tarp, poncho, clear tarp, bivi, poncho liner, and the clothes on my body. With those I can make through even sub zero as the clear tarp and mylar tarp can build a green house if you have a fire outside, or wrap yourself in the poncho liner wrapped in the mylar tarp, inside the bivi inside a makeshift shelter. It'll keep you alive. What I need to add is a flare gun and GPS, I'm running map based land nav.
Love your channel! This video hits at a good time for me. Weather is changing here in the PacNW where we mostly have conifer rain forest conditions, and I'm getting ready to spend the spring and summer mainly in the woods. I kind of cringed at the amount of stuff that you packed in for a 2 day class. My sleep system is an 8x8 reflective tarp, poncho, teton lightweight 20 degree bag (more like 40), an inflatable mat, and inflatable pillow. Four pounds tops. Sleep systems typically take up the bulk of your backpack space, and after spending an obscene amount of money on different sleep systems, I've figured it out. I stuff a hot nalgene bottle in the bottom of my bag if its going to get down below freezing with this system and it hasn't failed me yet. Waking up at 3am with cold feet is the worst. Reading some of the comments here suggesting silky outback saws (which I own) I would make a suggestion - the corona razortooth puts most silky saws to shame and is my goto. A saw is a must have on survival and backpacking trips for me. I no longer carry an axe/hatchet after doing so for nearly 30 years.
Didn't bring the silky, but I've heard good things about the razortooth - great suggestion. Which version do you have and how well does it work at felling up to 9" diameter trees?
@@dirty-civilian10" saw. 9" diameter tree would likely go faster with an axe. Cutting it up into fire rounds though, and shelter building is far superior with a saw. I love being able "build" when backpacking as opposed to hacking at material with an axe. I carried both for the longest time, yet I found 99 percent of the time I'm pulling the saw out, so I ditched the weight of my axes/hatchets.
I think it was 2009 but my unit at Ft Hood did a 3 day land nav exercise. It wasn't until I got out there that I noticed I had brought my bivy cover but not my actual sleeping bag. Nighttime temps were in the low 40's and they were the longest/coldest nights I spent in Texas.
Honest question, any reason to not use the tarps/ panchos you all brought to supplement the wood/ leaf structure? Over top if there was rain, control airflow at ends or setup all on windward side to control cold air ingress?
Tarps at he end could make good wind blockers and to hold heat in to a little. Just caution of condensation
I always have a compact camping hammock and rain fly and a good sleep system keep your self off the ground and loosing heat
A folding 10 to 100 watt folding solar panel. Walmart/academy / bass pro have store brand solar lantern lights that collapse and have a single USB charger. It's low volt but works.
Keeping a hose close to your body or feeding it to be completely in your pack when its cold out is essential. My first hunting trip i only had my hydration bladder when hunting elk in november and it froze. Couldnt drink anything until late in the day when the sun came up. The next year i had both a water bottle just in case and the hydration bladder was mostly packed in my pack to keep warm in the mornings. Ended up using the water bottle more often because it wouldn't freeze as much. The lessons you learn, right? And the boo boo kit was used a lot including pain meds, but surprisingly not much for me other than my feet. It was more used for the other 4 people out with me. I ended up having terribly fit boots on ehich gave me blisters and had to take care of that the second day out with my knife, bandaids, and some polysporin. Never ever go in boots you havent vetted in a long walk or a break in. Invest jn good footware more than anything.
So much extra stuff it’s crazy
One of the most important tools are a hand saw. Always carry inexpensive in conjunction with your hatchet/axe or bushcraft knife. The saw will save you calories that’ll you need later if staying for more than 2 days.
Very interesting,informative! Been prepping for the worst of timrs,disasters,etc.nonMiltary,.Not much for group think.But veri ft ovation of my thinking on this subject of packing up moving out ,esp. In a hurry takes me some straining to do. Was never fast when young. Now cannot do much real. Movement,standing ,or the normal activities of life. I probably never bug out because of my slowness.But dig in. Enjoyed seeing what all you packed
You make me look a little light!
Get a 24" Council Tools Pack Axe, instead of one of the fixed blade knives.
Makes your bush crafting so much easier.
Would love to see a class like this in TX hill country
This channel is too good ! Yall kill it man! Please keep this kind of content coming ! Thank you!
I would argue against disposable things like hand warmers and such.. Yeah they may be cheap and not take up a lot of space, but you are not training if you don’t embrace the suck.
i learned all that as a kid ....good times...still go few times year similar
Yep.. Best friend and I would walk into the woods with our school bags, sleeping bag and a fixed blade knife and build a shelter as young as 5th graders.. Amazing childhood and awesome memories.. The last couple years I’ve went into the woods for during the winter for a weekend to make sure I can still do it in my 50’s… Glad my small group has existing shelters at our various locations.. But I’m pretty confident I can build temporary shelter to get me by until long term shelter can be built..
just a note for later, if possible try to include pack weight.
it is important for some people to compare different setup and be aware of useless weight or things that could be easily swapped.
I'm blessed that my wife is an id physician, but I highly recommend getting broad spectrum antibiotics to keep on hand (something stronger than penacillin for sure).
For a ground cloth a lot of people use tyvek home wrap it’s lightweight and strong
Ontario is back. Sp1 used to be a $25-35 1095 usa made knife, now it's listed for $68. The Ontario sp1 TC 1075 is made in China, for $78.
Optics planet or any other site but the Cold Steel trail boss. I have two I use regularly for firewood. I’ve taken down small trees. Planning to get another for off-roading.
Silky Saw all day every day. Axes are fun at home but not so practical on the move.
Lose the nalgenes and straws. Get some smart water bottles and a Sawyer Squeeze filter.
Lose the Jetboils. They’re heavy and bulky. I have an Optimus Crux burner paired with a titanium pot.
All you need for fire is a bic lighter, cotton balls rubbed in Vaseline, and a flint and steel in case if the lighter doesn’t work.
And yes get a multi tool like a leatherman Skeletool. Fixed blade knife? Can’t go wrong with a Mora Companion or Mora Garberg.
The most critical thing to keep in mind when packing is ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain.
I have a glass magnifying glass in my pack, it’s a renewable fire starter and useful for removing splinters
Stinging nettles are great for allergies. Licorice root is great for coughs. Willow bark for pain. Devils club for pain.
Come top Central VA Guys!!! Alleganey High lands or near the AT, plenty of places to stretch out and learn!! Great content.
Look into syl nylon tarps they are very very light waterproof and pack very small!!
Just saying! And Bring a good saw like Sven saw light and compact and can process wood fast!!
Always gotta watch where you go in the mountains. Moonshiners and guy's growing weed ain't gonna play around.
Definitely need this class in Utah!
You guys should do a video on covering long distances with a pack aka backpacking. Its a whole different animal than hiking to a single spot, setting up, taking down, and hiking back.
I live in Lexington ky, how far from me are y'all? I would love to be apart of a class coming up soon.
Drew: the Cold Steel Trail Boss is a great axe for under $50, but if you want something great get a Gransfors Bruk Small Forest Axe.
That looked like a good course. It reminds me that needing any of it will be a bad day.
A quality waterproof lightweight $550 Marmot sleeping bag was one of the best purchases I ever made before hitch hiking. I was NEVER cold. All the moms that would pick me up would always ask that. Nope :D
Requested to clarify: approx. how many kgs does the bag packs weigh with all the necessary stuff. My survival bag is a 65 ltr tactical molle bag and weighs around 20 kgs with all the gear. I do have overkill items like fishing rod, full body raincoat apart from a poncho and jacket, full tang kukri apart from a multiutility shovel & hatchet tool extra stove, climbing rope for making a rappelling harness, pepper spray etc .Thanks
High speed Boy Scouts stuff. Hell yeah.
This sounds exactly like the night my son did his Wilderness survival merit badge (I was a Scout Dad who was there with him). It was 20 degrees outside in a debris hut. You will be cold but you will live!
Mio fit water flavor, so you can get some caffeine and flavor the purified water is a nice thing to have.
NE Kentucky here. Very good class it sounds like.
Watching all these shelters in other parts of the country looks so easy compared to Western Washington…. Let’s get together in the rain forest for some specialty training!
Layers of cedar boughs can work well to form a semi waterproof layer if needed. Key is a good slope too.
Not that hard to create a shelter using doug fir boughs and vine maple poles. Western WA/OR has a lot more options for foraging and shelter building than the Eastern parts of the states, that's for sure.
Loadout is ok, except the choice of the sleeping bags etc. in terms of temperature / Insulation and overall the super bright colours