Romina, Saint of the Bud Lore & Story Explained - Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
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- Romina Saint of the Bud Boss - Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Lore and Story Explained.
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Holy shit. That's Romina in the story trailer, kneeling and burning. Thats a great catch. I didn't even put that together.
where?
@@Kaleb._ 00:48 of this video
@@kittymcjesus149 thank you! I had no clue that was her and I was looking for that centipede/scorpion/butterfly/human creature.
Yes my same thought!! Makes me think Romina is more important to the story. That and she’s one of the few mandatory bosses in SOTE
Noticed that from her weapon during the boss fight.
One disappointment of the DLC is that some bosses don't have cutscenes or dialogue, even for main story bosses.
Really don’t see why they didn’t since it’s often such cool looking cutscenes
Big time. In my opinion From really needs to spend more time fleshing out characters. Their strategy of 'less is more' in terms of exposition is getting tiresome
@@KweeshI disagree the mystery and figuring things out as a community is exactly what makes the lore of these games so undying. There’s a reason that most of the original lore channels are active and successful to this day
@@Kweeshu dumb sheeps r gonna make society more stupid stg y’all been barkin at fromsoft everyday for dlc to release next day and now that it’s here you guys come with these comments y’all keep on findin stuff to b!tvh bout
@@ituoiocchisudeme6606But that doesn't mean you have to let characters be completely silent and void of cinematic events and buildup. Midra was awesome in that regard, tension rises as you get closer and closer to him, and first part of the fight is only for cinematic purposes, and then follows a bloodborne level cutscene
Romina is the best outcome for scarlet rot. Because she embraces it she’s not just a rotting corpse but also she is reborn, hence the idea of “Decay and Rebirth in practice” literally
Dunno about best. The one theory about how Malenia’s rot being purified by Miquella’s unalloyed gold as seen in her boss room with the clear water coming from the cocoon might be the best. Is like a philosopher’s stone
Also, where the centipede half and the scorpion half meet, her body forms a spiral shape, which is seen as a very holy image of the balance of opposite forces in hornsent society
Malenia fought her rot because she feared the death part of the cycle of death and rebirth, but Romina embraced the rot because she believed in the rebirth
@@timelineenjoyer I don't think Miquella is able to cure Malenia's Rot at all, at least before his ascension. If the chamber worked, the Haligtree wouldn't slowly decay, and Cleanrot Knights, who suffer less severe than Malenia, would try it as well. And one of the main reasons for his departure to Land of Shadow is Grace can't help him cure his sister.
5:16 She probably also is of the Numen race. Her flesh is fused with the two insects and Numen flesh is knwon to be compatible with other flesh. Those reborn via Jars are also reffered too as Saints I think.
Nice catch
Good catch!
Yeah also it's probably a reason why Godrick/Godefroy could practice the Grafting so well because of their Shaman heritage.
@@Sir-Pleiades oh jeez you're also correct
And it was created by naked Sid👌
I wonder if the reason Romina's rot is more pink/purple almost than Malenia's is because blue is sort of a color tied with spirits and magic, and she is a priestess while Malenia is purely a warrior
Romina is a saint, her rotting seems pure compared to Malenia's who is simply dying from it.
magenta is a color not fathomable by human eyes the color we see is what our minds put together....she may be closer to the rot god than most
From the wording of her remembrance, it sounds like she CREATED the scarlet rot. A tool that she granted the God of rot
@@RyuKaguyamad because my eyes are human and I absolutely fathom magenta
@@RyuKaguyascrew that we see spirits and resist madness
3:18 The reason it is more pink is probably caused by the bud's natural color. Her remembrance states that"Romina discovered a
twisted divine element, which she weaved into the baleful scarlet" and "Perhaps then, the buds might find somewhere to gain purchase". The description of the Scarlet Bud tells us that the Buds were not rotten from the start, which combined with the fact that she weaved the divine element shows her combining the rot and the buds. As to why the pests are pink-ish too, It's probably caused by their nature to adapt to their enviroment, example being them using the shells to make their weapons.
I love this boss. Not too crazy or fast. Solid big telegraphed attacks. It’s a nice break from some of the bosses in this DLC. Both are good.
Though I wish she, along with other bosses had cutscenes. I feel like BAYLE, Rellana, and Romina deserved cutscenes.
yeah, I also enjoyed the fight. not too hard, took me a few tries to adapt to her attacks, it's no clusterfck like some of the other bosses, took her down with my bear claws and red bear outfit, realy enjoying the weapons and spells. sad she and some other bosses didn't get cutscenes or some line of dialogue.
I actually think this fight is a bit on the easy side. Her attacks were so well telegraphed I beat her first try and I’m not that good.
@@tripgiannini1892 That’s what I mean. Sure she can melt your health if you’re being careless but as long as you’re paying attention, it’s a reaction. You don’t really have to learn her entire move set
I honestly like how Bayle is without the cutscene. Just slamming into the ground in front of you on the first fight. Agree with Rellana and Romina though
You don't just dual wield the moon and pretend not to be an important character.
Crazy theory - Romina has been able to have its bud bloom. However, they have been able to keep it under control no? The ruins aren't completely infected. The rot is kept at the pools and controlled
Actual grass still grows. No spores out of control.
Romina is incapable of blooming due to the nature of a bud, a flower yet to bloom. She is of the bud, forever stuck before the bloom.
Well that makes a lot more sense, I was just going off:
“Hey Miyazaki, what’s Romina’s lore?”
“She was in a burning church and found the scarlet rot.”
“Is that it?”
The soundtrack of this boss is definitely one of the best in the entire game
Did you forget about Bayle Radagon and Godfrey?
Leda, Bayle, and Romina are my top 3 soundtracks from the dlc
*Midra enters the fight!*
@@domin8tion651 Those don't invalidate Romina's as "one of the best"
not leyndell capital, nothing hits harder than that
Wish the dlc had more cutscenes for these characters
Not for nothing, I also see some similarities with Aldrich from DS3.
In the opening trailer, his title was "Saint of the Deep", just as Romina's is "Saint of the Bud". Not only that, but Romina's polearm is rather similar to Aldrich's Lifehunt Scythe. Their movements are similar as well, and when you consider that Aldrich became what he was by devouring and becoming imbued by Gods, while Romina is the amalgam of the forms of an Outer God, it stands out to me as someone who absolutely enjoyed DS3 and thought Aldrich was a very interesting character.
Honestly I think one of the things Marika seduced at some point was a/the primordial snake...so much resurrection and rot, and a trail of shed skins/identities among her descendants...
The Primordial Serpent might have been her first Lord Consort as she ascended to Godhood whom she discarded after using to help found the Her Golden Order
Maybe the original sin was when marika killed her daughter Melina bc she had the ability to burn the sealing tree as well as Mesmer and marika perceived Melina as a future threat, where as Mesmer was more easily controlled. Could be why Melina was actively trying to destroy the demigods of the erdtree, in defense instead of conquest
Melina had a purpose which is given by Marika (her mother)
@@tajdaffa1526 i think miquella had a purpose given to him by marika too, in his dialogue he says “I’m am going to become a god if we honor our part of the vow,” what exactly is the rest of the vow? And a vow to whom?
@@richlacerra6668 the vow was to Radahn the promised consort.
I wonder if Melina is the daughter of both Marika and the Gloam Eyed Queen.
The seduction, and the betrayal?
Marika then removed power from the Gloam Eyed Queen at the Gate of Divinity, perhaps the rune of death / godslayer power incorporating and then binding the power when creating the Golden Order and Elden Ring, extracting the destined death once the order was birthed.
@@MS-rn3qp to add some context: GLQ made weapons capable of killing gods, then Marika removed Rune of Death to render these weapons useless.
As for seduction and betrayal, maybe Marika was seduced by fingers (no pun intended) and betrayed hornsent/Crucible. We just don't havve enough info regarding those lines.
3:20 i would argue that romina represents what scarlet rot represented before the removel of destined death. Both decay and rebirth are compromised to ner reach their final state.
You got that Daviden Atenborough vibe going and I love it!
Also It could be pointed out that she's a saint. Meaning that maybe she (or at least her human part) could be related to queen Marika to some extent.
It’s likely she was Numen, which would certainly have some relation to Marika. However, I think her “rebirth” as a Saint of Rot is likely more the reason for her title. Although, no-one knew of Messmer until the dlc, who was Marika’s own child- it could be that Romina also has some unsaid connection to Marika, even stronger than that of likely being the same race as her (Numen are native to the Land of Shadow, as we learn through Marika’s lore at the Shaman Village, and Romina attaching herself to a centipede/scorpion thing is likely also through the Numen’s/Shaman’s ability to meld their flesh to other things).
Definitely a good point though! It’s a bit ambiguous as to what exactly nominates someone to be a “Saint” in Elden Ring, so it’s an interesting thing to think about
I can't believe i lived long enough to see another woman-bug boss in a souls game. It's weird it happened three times only in a souls game
I am glad they continued rot as a theme instead of only introducing new ones like Messmers Flame or heat lightning. Rot and Madness fascinate me alot and I was so glad we got more lore on both.
I loved that video thank you
You sir, are the David Attenborough of Elden Ring lore! I love how you blend battle tactics with some storytelling. Keep it up man!
That Scorpion Stinger, called a relic of an Outer God (God of Rot obviously), maked me think the god of rot definitely somewhat resembles a scorpion. Now with the DLC, the scorpion enemies and the previously existing Kindred of Rot definitely points towards that type of creature. Even more so with the scorpion stinger wielded by Romina. I think in terms of what it would look like, Romina is the closest we are going to get as I got definite god of rot vibes from her. Obviously not the actual one but very similar perhaps
Her poleblade could use a buff.
0:48 I’m 99% sure that that’s Romina right there. The spear she’s holding looks just like the one she ises
Her and Malenia themes are kinda the same and Since Malenia rejects the god it slowly kills her but since Rom fully embraced it she became a “perfect vessel” to the point where she took the form of the God
Romina is Queelag 2 lol
Ha ha haven't bashed her for years 😂😂
🔥🔥🔥
This boss is the most DS2 shit ever. For the best.
I Love Rominas design so much!
Saint of the Buddy ol’ pal
Saint is also the word the Hornsent used, might be a connection since Romina was perhaps a Numen as she melded or grafted her flesh to others as the Numen were able to do
maybe she was stuffed into a jar with those things and prayed to a god and the god of rot answered her call.
“I’m not your saint o’ the bud, Guy!”
I wonder if Romina is to Malenia
Like St. Trina is to Miquella
Like Maliketh is to Marika
Like Wolf boy is to Ranni
Nice content
For some reason this might be my all time favorite From Software boss. There is just this weird and twisted grace and beauty to that character. She movement is also incredibly fluid.
loved this boss
Boss fight was cool but felt so random to me. I was like ok rot scorpion lady here we go. Why idk but…. Not dung loot to be had!
My biggest criticism of the dlc is
- that some area are just flat and empty
- no melina , especially considering we fought the lord of frenzied flame
- would have loved to see the blood entity
- would have loved to see the rot god
- No gloam eyed queen and godskin infos
Im not your saint, Bud
I'm not your bud, Saint
@@dragondan244I’m not your saint, tarnished
I was surprised while playing that she didn't have a cutscene or anything. I thought the guardian of the sealing tree would be worthy of at least some introduction.
Considering who the final boss is, it also fits with the scarlet rot's death and rebirth themes since they were afflicted with rot before being revived in a renewed body.
Romina was the one and only boss that i was able to beat 1st try
Idk how i did it but i did lol
I have not and they are all great as well, especially when you add Igon to Bayle’s theme, but this is just my favourite by far
This boss reminded me of Andreas boss fight in Lies of P.
Both church figures, now an amalgamation of creature(s), holding a spear in the hand.
My personal theory was always that Marika locked Messmer away in the Realm of Shadow as a way to kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. With Messmer permanently stuck there, there would always be someone to keep that area in check and quell any further rebellions. Also, she left him there, because she knew that his fire was capable of burning down the Erdtree.
Loved this boss. I reached it early, so she had hell of a HP bar, but I didn't mind at all, as the boss was pleasant.
come ON DUDE, two hand the poleblade
Visually, she is without a doubt my favourite boss 😁
In the trailer, marika is seen pulling gold wires from a body, and stands atop the structure of corpses. The narrator also talks about some betrayal thing. I can only assume that the betrayal is that of the hornsent (which is interesting because that means marika had some sort of agreement with them), and the structure is made of hornsent. Or maybe it was comprised of the jar innards, who knows.
One big thing that confuses me endlessly is the timeline as messmer is probably the son of marika and radagon. I wonder if the events of the massacre occurred before or after godfrey's era. Maybe it marika had a child with radagon before godfrey? Then seperated after so radagon could marry rennala and so marika could marry godfrey? Or did she leave the shadow realm and then come back to betray them? Nothing makes sense when I think about it deeply
"Every giant is red of hair, and Radagon was said to have despised his own red locks. Perhaps that was a curse of their kind."
Marika slept with giants. What a wanton stumpet.
But seriously, he wields flame spells. And drops kindling.
Also: "Messmer despised his own fire. Time and time again he hoped to rid himself of it, but ever did it burn.", "Every giant is red of hair, and Radagon was said to have despised his own red locks. Perhaps that was a curse of their kind.". Sounds very similar.
Either curse grew strong in Messmer as Radagon's son, or Radagon slept with giants and got an STD curse, or Marika slept with one even before the war and Radagon got and STD curse, that's why he's so salty.
Also, who said Radagon and Marika were ever separated? Statue doesn't say this, final boss fight shows transformation, not separation. Separation is implied by some events (Marika calling Radagon in the capital after Godfrey was banished), disproved by others (Marika and Radagon both dissapear at the same time at some point, masks used to disguise someone).
@Almoniification pretty sure they're seperated because at one church, melina says marika spoke to radagon, saying that he is her. This could also mean that radagon didn't know, and somehow marika knew
@@SomeGuy-qd3li "In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self."
She's not speaking to him, she's adressing her words to him. It might be interpreted as she wants to shatter herself while she is still in Radagon form.
"Thou'rt yet to become me" technically implies transformation, not unification. And I have no idea how to interpret the lines about Radagon's godhood. Might have to find Japanese version of those lines.
@@Almoniification I don't understand how you can interpret "Thou'rt yet to become me." as marika speaking to herself
@@SomeGuy-qd3li and how is it my problem? Use your imagination, idk.
I just realized that the Lady holding a twisted spear in the DLC trailer might me Romina, her spear looks like she is holding it tight like she found something?
I really like her design. Even the creepy bug parts are kinda....pretty? There is beauty in that. Even regular rot areas show both disgusting sights but also some beauty to it's "flowers". Romina seems to embrace the beautiful aspects of rot more. Besides people tend to focus on the death and decay part of rot, while it's as important part is rebirth too. Sure it's still pretty much horrific but Romina is an example of the proper rebirth. Also her design reminds me of a more horrific faefolk.
The rot is magenta due to romina making it her own and it being more accepted in the land of shadow. Her rot was taken from malenia in the form of her butterflies which malenia rejected
is the red of rot what was seperated from the power of blackflame? Romina has had me thinking a lot of the rune of death and the half wheel of the centipede
PLEASE 2 hand the twinblade
Saint of the dank bud :P
The music in this battle is the one from the DLC. I think that's supposed to be a hint to that connection. Messmer made her angry. Too bad she burns extremely easily xD...wait how the hell did he lose? She's weak to fire!!!!!!!
I thought that was midra in the cutscene with the spear?!?!
Embrace the darkness within me
- Pull My Devil Trigger
Wake me up inside
Wish they give rellana and romina cutscence and dialogue
Romina is the best candidate to become the vessel of Goddess of Rot, as she fully embraces its power and even tries to establish its Order. However, she lacks the most important: being an Empyrean, so even Malenia would always get chosen by the Outer God in the end despite her resistance. The Rot and Bed of Chaos of Dark Soul has similar concept. They both give birth to new but twisted creatures, and their inflicted vessels have traits of insects. And if not controlled properly, they would destroy the balance of the world.
The orgiinal sin is either the creation of the Heaven's Gate or the fact that she used it, because thats what's hiding in Ilim.
as a mage i just used azures comet like normal and she died lmao
3:21 never seen it before
Honestly I've always found it weird that there's a god of "rot"
I think it makes more sense that it's a god of rebirth and rot is the medium through which the rebirth takes place.
They could prob do another DLC if they wanted. So much lore.
Whats up with moore and his forager brood? Do they have a relation to romina?
Smash, next question
Question. Were the shadow lands always seperate? If so, how did marika leave?
It wasn't. It only became separate after Marika raised the curtain over it, basically covering it from the light of elden ring and erdtree, and therefore, separating it from lands between.
It's popularly believed that the area in the middle of the base game map with the clouds shrouding it is where the Land of Shadow resides. As the Land of Shadow also seems to follow similar rules of rebirth almost as if there is also no rune of death there just like in the Lands between.
@@spearsage I wonder if those oh so familiar roots made it before the veil was placed 🤔
@@suronia1 I wouldn't be surprised, given that the dead often managed to wander into the land of shadow somehow. Cosmologically speaking, it's the *hell* of Elden Ring universe after all. That thing you mention is, for better or worse, also dead. But the fact that it hasn't encroach the land as much is the proof that the veil is still working. He's there by the virtue of the place, but his influence is not as powerful.
As for how his knights somehow ended up there as well, perhaps they used him as a conduit to go through the veil, much like how we used Miquella's body to reach the land of shadow.
@@spearsage I just feel there's something more to come. I dunno, feels like it's not completed yet 🤔 there is that movie. But I want that to have the war and radahn vs malenia
Can you please do the dancing lion lore video
How about Mohg, the Lud of Blud?
Bug mommy im sorry i had to do it!!!
This boss beat my butt really bad.
Personally, I thought the difference in color of rot was explained by Malenia's divine/Golden heritage.
Why do these bosses not have a cutscene?
The rot god is ... Nurgle?
Sad. No cutscene for this boss.
Would.
for my common strength build she was by far the easiest boss in the whole dlc, and the easiest of all remembrance
its kinda disappointing we didnt get any dialog or cutscene, the fight just starts and ends very quickly
Try no hit her.
Yah should do a vid on Rellana
Idk if her lore is as deep as everyone elses she’s simply a knight for Mesmer and a sister of Renalla
@@domin8tion651 Fair point. I just think she's neat.
So who burned down the erdtree the first time since we have all the ash in the capital?
So what would have happened if Malenia would have embraced the rot ? Would she be reborn completely?
Bob Marley, saint of the bud 🌿
I wish they would introduce a lore reason for fighting most of these dudes. A Lot of it just seems forced. Like Mogh. Why does he attack you if you are part of his clan?
So why is she helping Messmer 🤔
The boss which encapsulates the idea "when is it ever gonna be my turn to attack?"
nah that’s definitely radahn 😂
Lmao how, i was hitting her during almost the entirety of the fight, with correct positioning she simply wont hit you, ever
Commander Gaius fr fr
you should narrate all the lores
Look I know shes...3/4ths bug but HEAR ME OUT
Would
I really like her conceptually but i feel like she is pretty underdeveloped. Her design is messy, I dont understand her place in the lore, and i feel liek she is more of a speed bump boss. I want to like her so much but oh well
Ok guys, hear me out
What did Marika do? She invited/answered to the call of another outer god (the elden beast) to usher in the age of the golden order. One such being that may have been at war if not have always been blocked by the hornsent and their divine warriors that they may not be able to invade the lands between. As its name suggests, may have been a place desired by many Gods whose territories surround the “lands between”. After all, if you are a God who is in conflict with other Gods, why wouldn’t you want the place which purpose is to birth new Gods? Just imagine the power it will grant you to triumph over your competitors.
Such a cruel twist of fate, a land whose natural inhabitants were the crucible - conducted their culturally-ethical rituals in their own lands were overtaken by beings they have wronged by colluding with the very beings they’re preventing from taking over their world. Thus, Marika have sinned for she had forsaken their own kin (countrymen if you may consider) albeit their physical differences because of a series of unresolved hatred bloomed to endless wars.
Another thing to consider is how the “Elden Beast” seemingly have abandoned the lands between at some point. Maybe, after taking over the place and have orchestrated to seal the Divine Gate to prevent other outer Gods from birthing new of their kind (as Radahn stopped the stars, the blue dancer sealing the kindred of rot, Miquella charming Mohg who is the champion of the blood mother, and Placidusax taken out of his throne as the Lord of The Lands between preventing him from empowering the dragon god), the Elden Beast saw no more need of its inhabitants and took off only to be also sealed by Marika herself as she did the Shattering.
She is a Hornsent right?
She's a numen I believe, from the land of shadow/shaman village
Yes the other person replying saying she is a Numen is correct. She became a Saint from the Horsent Potentates divine rituals. Romina and St. Trina are the only two confirmed Saints that we know of by name. They have the ability to meld their flesh with other things. For example St. Trina was melded with Miquella and once being abandoned by him she is left melded to a flower in the St. Trina's swamp area. Romina has melded herself with 3 other beings those being as follows a butterfly, a scorpion and a centipede and I guess technically the Outer God of Rot since it does reside within her.
So will can all assume that Marika is the problem can we not?
I destroyed this guy without getting hit very easily. Did I get lucky? Or just a very weak boss ?
Was Romina inspired by Rosine from Berserk? I find they similar
Lol not at all
Smash
For those who enjoyed this video and want more information on Romina and why she is part scorpion/butterfly/centipede you can watch this video it will explain a lot more about it and Queen Marika as well. The TRUTH about Marika REVEALED in Elden Ring DLC by proforprof. Highly recommend this video its extremely well made and ties up so many loose ends of the story very nicely.
wouldn't be Romina the true and finished form once she resembles the scarlet goddess herself and not Malenia, who is just a bud?
ok bud