Is a 1880s Basement Worth Making a Livable Space? | 1880s Farm House EP4
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Just because it is Old and Nasty Does Not mean It is Useless. Watch as we restore and old house back to it s former glory!
Season 3 Episode 07 "Farm House Basement (2019)
Master Episode 27
Produced by Jeff Thorman
Written & Directed by: Maximilian Moskal
Hosted by: Jeff Thorman
Cinematography by: Maximilian Moskal
Opening Song: Anthony Jarrett
Editing by: Maximilian Moskal
Produced by: Home Renovision DIY 2019
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I’m a home inspector and I love this guy I can’t imagine who would dislike any of these videos. Keep it up and thank you!
Yeah I feel the same.....fancy that minus 40 .... lol.....frozen poops lol.....a plumber with specialised equipment and Geoff with an ice pick chipping away at Frozen Crap....lol....he is so funny how he laughs about it.
People who wanted a finished basement in an 1800s home. 😂
Hey what’s a usual starting wage for a home inspector? I’m thinking of getting into the game
Thank you. Another reason to trust Jeff and your seal of approval. 🇺🇸💪☮️🇨🇦
Home inspectors in my two experiences are worth nothing. They look for nothing that could make them slightly uncomfortable. Not saying they are all the same.
17:04 "Can you go outside mom? That would make me a lot happier" ... Jeff, "Would you relax, it's not going anywhere" 😄
The concern he has for his parents ❤️ I love everyone in this family! (and the videos, of course!)
Bless him. Worried about his mom.
Max your editing here is lovely. I think the only difference between this and HGTV type stuff, is A this has actual content, but from a film point of view the B is just the lack of a second camera for shot reverse shot type editing during dialogue. I think you'd have a lot more flexibility with a second camera. Again though, it's very well done.
I wouldn't recommend the reverse shot during dialogue unless they hire a professional editor, chance is it will just look jumpy. I think it's fine as it is.
perhaps a second camera on a wide shot exclusively
We need More B roll.
SOOO glad it is not only me. LOL. The night we closed on our old house we rented the VHS tape of "The Money Pit". We were aware. We survived it and it only took us 27 years to get it finished.
@17:06 the way your son is concerned for his moms safety. What a good son!! ❤️ I have thoroughly enjoyed all of these videos about your house and I really like the other channel too. Plz keep up the good work!!!
So much fun, renovating while you are living in the space.
Making sure everything is functional at the end of every day, and that the tools/mess are cleaned up.
And people wonder why it takes so long.
Half the time is spent getting things out, and putting them away every day.
That’s the part I hate the most. I try and organize everything to the side of the room I’m working in until it’s done as much as possible.
Been on mine for 7 years. I built everything in it. Doors , cabinets , vanities, trim all from scratch. My poor wife never knows what awaits her on the weekends when she comes back from shopping trips.
Jeff I can't tell you how much I love this video. From 7:45 to 11:40 gave me ptsd flashbacks of everything we've gone through over the years with my parents 1910s house in North Central Iowa 10 minutes from the Minnesota border. The stories I could tell...Its comforting knowing were not the only ones who've gone through it. There's never a dull moment. 😂 The house was built by two brothers. It was bought from a Sears catalogue and materials were shipped in by railroad and they horse and buggied the materials to the acreage, probably a 6-8 mile trip.
I was really excited to see the next episode appear. I am not a renovator, I just really enjoy watching your journey as in Australia we don’t have the same issues as you with the really old houses, severe weather conditions and pest damage although we do have termites, we also don’t t have basements although some of the more recent expensive builds may have under garage parking. I also enjoy the chats between you and your wife.
I bought a 1900 home and have many similar issues. Thank you, it is the first time I have seen anyone take this kind of non-ideal situation and say "you can do this". The basement is the most intimidating part, just walking around down there and looking at all of the problems. I've been working on it 4 years now and I am not even half way done. Electrical, HVAC, structural, insulation in walls, plumbing, encapsulating two crawl spaces, etc. I've had a lot of help on things where I did not have time to do them, but have also tackled a lot myself. I wish someone had said "you are buying as is". But having said that, I've learned a tone and it is definitely not a cookie-cutter track home and has some unique charm.
I also have logs as load bearing joists in my 1800's Montana ranch house. Earthen basement/cellar with stone walls. It is nice to see your process and your conversation with the structural engineer was spot-on. This all helps me prioritize.
This dude is like a dad with all the answers, I will pass the knowledge on to my grandsons, nephews and little cousins. Thanks man frfr
This video is a GOLD MINE of knowledge. I live in an area where almost all of the houses were built in the early 1900s. Some of these puppies are mansions, literally and they sell for a meager $100k. As I grow in the industry, I'd love nothing more than to acquire some of these if not just for pet projects but in the mean time I have rentals that all have various little things going on. I consider it my playground for learning now and I cannot believe how much these videos have changed my understanding as not only a landlord but a contractor and the rest. I am a bit obsessed with the entire thing and I've muscled through easily 10 videos this week alone. I cannot stress how thankful I am because all of them have been so on point, even with the basic stuff.
Love all the detail. Plan on buying a country house next year and I watch your show to talk myself out of it and then I watch your shows to talk myself into it! Thanks a bunch for your generosity in providing all the detailed info. It provides DIYers like me figure out what you can do and when the experts need to be called in.
Same thing here in Minnesota when -40 is coming we are told to keep the thermostat a little higher so the furnace can keep up rather than get behind. Keep the undersink cabinets open, etc. to avoid freezing pipes on outside walls. You did a great job on your basement. Everything looks fresh, clean and even an I-beam. Great video!
Thank you for sharing we have a 160 year old home in Canada and am working through both our and the pass owners challenges
I'm so addicted to your videos. Even if I already saw the individual videos twice or more, I'm scotched to my phone. It seams as my experience grow, I learn more and more things everytime that I missed out the first time I watched them. Keep up the good work Jeff!
Wow, thank you!
He's so lucky to have such an incredible mentor...
That 80s montage music at 36:45 is awesome. Fits perfectly with the editing and the throwback feel of the house.
I’ve never seen an actual whole tree use for as a joist before
Me either
Log Cabins and older homes, but ...
They must be debarked or they’ll rot.
It's called a "live edge wood feature" 🤣
@@SistaSledge101 😂😂
My house has joists just like that, bark and all. It was built in 1850 and the joists are still solid.
What a wonderful video series, I can't believe I'm just finding this now. Our new-to us, 120 year old fun-house has a lot of the same issues as yours, right down to the missing supports and joists with the bark still on 'em. Your videos give reminded me to have the confidence to just continue chipping away at the core issues until we have something we're satisfied with. Hopefully no chipping away at poop ice..!
Thank you so much for revving up the faith for those of us who live in old houses (warts and all) and love them best! We bought "as is" nine years ago and we continue to make progress, though not as fast as you. Most recent discovery: - in one place they put the baseboard on first. Then they put the drywall down just to the baseboard (!). Then they put the hardwood flooring just over to the baseboard! YES REALLY!
Thanks for sharing!!
I absolutely love the relationship between you and your son.
It is not easy since he is just like me only 30 years younger. He is definitely going to be a better man Than I am. Cheers!
His son is the real project here. Hell with the building, you're raising your son right!
@@jeadie8131 That's a powerful comment.
I absolutely loves these videos. So helpful, easy to follow along, and the mix in with the family makes it even better. Thank u again, as usual your videos have helped me for years!!!
It's 5h25am and I've been binge watching your videos for hours now... I have absolutely no renovations, nor repairs, to make 😆😆😆 I'm just really enjoying your videos and your teachings... I just find it all so fascinating!...
The electric and soldering aspects are also intriguing coz those are things I have little knowledge of... So it would really be interesting if you'd eventually make videos about those... Kind of starting with the basics and levelling up as we go along...
I really enjoy your teaching style... You teach quickly, efficiently, and with a very detail oriented approach, thus making your videos extremely interesting to me coz they're full packed with information that I can quickly absorb and move on to the next thing you're teaching... I get bored if things are taught slowly... You have a very good rhythm with a hint of humor and a positive attitude that just keeps us alert and engaged.... It just the perfect combination!...
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us all!... It's extremely appreciated! 👍💜
"Welcome to my Nightmare"
Me: on the edge of my seat eating ice cream 😍😁
Awesome!
Men i love your vídeos i bought and old house because I did not had alot of money and your videos become a bless when it comes to fix things at home I have a 120 year old house and it has all this problems. Thank you
“Can you go outside, Mom?”
LMAO I’ve been there
That was some amazing changes to the water, air and heat, and electricity to the home! It's so interesting and fun to watch you discover and repair the different things around the house 🏠 😊👍💕💕💕
Just bought a 1933 house in Vermont and have a similar basement myself.. lots of different hands over the years, lots of old bits and pieces left over everywhere... thanks to your videos I might be able to transform it into something clean and possibly livable.
1933 VT home that would be considered modern in New England
Jeff , looks like a familiar. So perfect for me !, Appreciate it Professor.
O.M.G!
I have a house about 100 yrs old. At times I feel like it may have been a mistake to purchase because of all the projects. That basement of yours, and its structural issues, well, I won't be complaining about this old farmhouse ever again. That looks scary. And I'm so grateful for all you have taught me.
I've lived in three houses in my life, in different areas of the country. Every one has had some water in the basement at different times. I'm totally with you in generally being opposed to finishing the basement. Storage, utilities, maybe a workshop: those are fine.
I love the video format with the interviews in between, your doing a great job love the videos.
Awesome, thank you!
i smile every time i see that tree
I have a summer home just like your on a little over an acre of hillside rocks and trees. I had to laugh when you mentioned no vent stack. I installed pex water lines and a new hot water heater. Then I replace all the drain line with PVC as I was preparing to fix the walls I noticed bearing electrical wiring, now I am replacing all the wiring and outlets thru out the house.
My next project is a rotted sill plate on the north side of house. This house is my retirement project. I am spending a lot of time reading code books and building handbook not to mention viewing RUclips videos. Good luck on your project.
You have to be the most knowledgeable home repairman I have ever seen.
I'm in the same boat. We just bought a 1940's farm house. It's all done wrong, lol. Rough cut lumber throughout, logs for piers, etc... let the fun begin! We've been replacing floor joists and subflooring for weeks.
I love your wife's commentary!
me too!
My wife and I bought our first house over a year ago since then we have gutted the whole house and these videos have helped so much and it makes me feel better that others go through the same headache lol love your videos we are about halfway through with our house fingers crossed we get in by spring!
i've used the backwards threading on jars and other household items. You just confirmed WHY it is so cool! another reason i watch your show! awesome sauce!!
I'd love to see you cover how to pay for renovations by increasing home value. Are you borrowing against increased post-renovation appraised value? Or is it just a calculation of what the future market will pay for a given renovation project when you sell the house?
You could renovate your home and get a new appraisal. Refinance and pull your 40k out.
This was like watching a video summary of my life over the past three years. 1902 auction-sale farmhouse, here :)
"Hey Matt hold up this bucket so we don't lose a single drop of water!" 10 minutes later. Dumping a whole water heater worth of water on the ground "Naaa no problem." :D
Absolutely LOVE your vids. Can you please make a vid regarding home electrical wiring, more specifically homes with CLOTH WIRING. THANKS
I just bought a house that needs this kind of work, and I have to live in it while it's being repaired.
Yeppers good idea about the Water Softening Conditioning System....hopefully this will help lengthen the life of your hot water heater.
You make it look easy, which is a compliment on your expertise. Nice videos!
Great video! Informative, easy to follow, and some personality to keep viewers interested!
Thanks!
Subscribed!
You went from talking to the engineer to "boom", it's done! It would have been nice to see what you actually did structurally after talking to him.
Not sure if the diy channel shows it, but he usually includes details like that over on that channel. Just a suggestion to check out.
Just bought a house built in 1883 with a similar basement, so I really appreciate this video
That water heater dissection was the coolest thing.
its nice watching these videos now that im 31 buying my first house very soon. My father passed 7 years ago and he was the one who was into all this stuff and I wish i would have learned more from him when he was alive. Youre helping fill that gap, and i enjoy seeing the relationship with your son, Its nice. Im looking into doing a few things myself and youve been helpful. Thank you sir.
I'm in Kansas and I cannot imagine my septic lines freezing! Our lines are 6ft deep but our frost depth is less than 3ft.
Hi Jeff. Great job on your basement. What a massive undertaking. Looks alot better than before. Great vids to. All the best. Take care. 🇬🇧👍👌
Thanks 👍
Your best video yet! Pleasure to meet you Mrs. Thorman.
Wow, thank you!
Binge watched this today for 5 hours! Wish you could help me with a few issues with my COLD house in WI!
My house is just like this house. It was built before 1900, a small addition (the bathroom) was built is the 60's, 24" spans and 7' ceilings. I bought it as is, And been fixing it up myself for 7 years so far.
Hey Jeff! Can you make a video on how you handled the water events? My wife inherited an old house without proper seal and vapor barrier in the cellar. We love your videos and are making our way through all of them :)
Cheers.
a good pump and keep everything off the ground. I also oil sprayed the floor joist and ceiling package to keep things dry.
@@REALITYRENOVISION Did you have to install any kind of “drainage system” leading to the sump or big fancy commercial dehumidifier? (We live in the South).
I got a few quotes from some basement waterproofing specialists wanting to charge 20k-30k for their “waterproofing” systems. That's insane considering the space is too small for us to turn into a finished space.
We love that your videos are geared towards real people on a practical budget.
Best educational material yet !! I have to do this project next week
Just started this series a day ago and binged watched the whole thing! Came for the renovation, subscribed for the good time. Keep up the great work!
Omg. We are living the same dream or nightmare depending on whether you are a glass half full or empty kind of person. Ha! But our beauty 1800s farmhouse is seaside in PEI. God I love that house! We still have 2 hidden rooms to open up and explore and i have a sneaky suspicion we might have 2 wells AND 2 septics lol. What an adventure!
For some reason I really enjoyed this video.
Fun watching your video. I may need to vlog the renovation of my new home built in 1846. I don't seem to have the structural issues as much, but there are some other issues keeping me obsessed.
I got this same project! You give me lots a hope . It’s dyi budget with Idk know how an your vids so I just may get there with these vids. Thanx Karl
Serious question: wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build a new house on the lot?
@@andrewb6458 really its way more fun do as Jeff is 😊 plus it's a huge help to others
I'm not North American and don't know much about NA construction. But I think I got the answer here. Even though you spend a lot of money on a renovation, and building from scratch might seem like a better idea. Remember that they are still able to live here while renovating and don't need to rent another place. Huge cost avoided. Also, when building a new house you would have to get a construction loan to finance the payments for the framers, roofers, electricians, the people doing foundation etc. When DIY'ing you can do everything at your own pace. But most important: It's really expensive to build a new house - more expensive than most people think - and the short answer would probably be no. No, it wouldn't be cheaper :)
@decidedisciple67 so true so true well said
He’s essentially building a new house without paying for a foundation framers and roofers
@@Sev572 Yep and saving a ton of money because hes a contractor and can do the work himself without have to pay up the wazoo for someone else to do the work for him and hes teaching others to do the same so it's a win win.
33:47 there's a jack post with only a single bolt in the wrong position! You _just_ went over that. 😎
Reminds me of when I first bought my house. It was in a bad shape, no one took care of it for decades.
I love these videos. Thank you
You are so welcome!
My husband and I had to do this together. My husband made a rope harness around the hot water heater. Then when we tried to get it through the stair case it was too tight so I was ripping boards off the wall while he held it downstairs. So fun.
Great job!
Love this ... love to learn renovation from RenoVision! Love the tree rafter
WOW what you guys have achieved, amazing....love it, thanks for the videos 👍🇦🇺
Great video, always learn something new, and new ideas👍I dont have vented water pipes in my old house, and its working great so far, works much better than the 10 year old house we used to rent..
@reality renovision
Surprised you neglected to wear eye protection while running that grinder through the water heater shell, idk abt you but my eyes are my greatest asset.
Love the vid, I sure miss the east coast, this bring back memories of home.
We had an old basement; sandstone rock, 2 concrete block walls and a crawl space, wood beams and yes tree limbs. Time for a new basement! I was the GC, so I hired a house moving company to jack up the house and crib up for support while new basement was installed. We disconnected all the mechanicals ourselves. Had an excavator guy come over and dig out block & rock walls, and crawl space made one side a walkout, which was originally a full backfill wall, so a retainer wall was added. Entire basement was excavated! Hired contractor that specialized in building treated (not arsenic) wood basements. Yes, I said wood! 2"x6"x8' walls built in their indoor manufacturing facility. They delivered wall sections with windows framed. House mover delivered steel i-beams and replaced old wooden beams, then wood basement wall sections were installed and water proofed. We installed french drain, backfilled with washed stone, plumbing, electrical, paint and trim work ourselves. Hired subs to do windows, doors, insulation, flooring and sheetrock. We could of done some of the sub work, but we both worked full-time jobs and have 3 kids, so we were running out of steam. Old basement was totally unusable. We ended up with a 34' x 39' finished basement; 2 large bedrooms with lookout windows, huge family room, full kitchen, 4pc bathroom, mechanical room. Basically added 1300sq ft of living space. Best decision ever!
Excavation $2000.00
Basement walls & waterproofing $5000.00
Steel i-beams $600.00
House jacking/ leveling $2000.00
Windows, doors, wall framing, insulation, flooring, paint, trim plumbing and electrical, retainer wall. $6000.00
A project like this is not for the faint of heart. We lived in our garage for 3 months. Wish we could of filmed it!🙃
All those years of experience and learned not to do that again today haha! Love your content!!
I am learning about my hot water heater! way cool! thanks!!! really dig the background music! i am replacing my hot water heater because i don't want to even know what is in the inside. ew, yuckie! i will order ano rods (sp?) with my new tank. i did read somewhere where we are supposed to drain the tank once a year by connecting a water hose and letting it run to the outside window but i have no way of mopping up a mess if i screw it up! my floors are shot as well so when i replace them (prior to new water heater) i will ensure a new drain pipe so i can drain my tank once a year. this is such good stuff thank you all so much!
Jeff, you must have had one hell of a teacher. I love your channels.
I appreciate that!
that music at 17:00, I tought the house would collapse xD
Literally my all time favorite comment on this channel. Laughed so hard. Thats the "@#$! gets real" song. If you hear it on this channel, you know its serious!
love this series. keep em coming
Sounds like the same thing I always do, but a house, live in it and it’s a constant reno project, including the one I’m in now, electric completely redone, a lot of the same , lamp cord used where bx should have been used, now I’m doing the entire sewer line over
What's funny is I would do the same exact thing in your shoes but as a viewer with it not being my time or my money I would love to see you make the basement livable space 😄
Loving these long videos. I learn alot.
That poop ice story is true love lol
There is no need to use expensive sharkbite fittings on the water softner system. Especially as they aren not meant to be taken on and off numerous times (few times is ok). The water softner system has union fittings in the connection to the supply and return lines, those are meant as your means of disconnect for servicing the system.
Every time a tradesman has to come over to my house I am watching him like a hawk asking questions like why and what does this do!
I do it in a unannoying way as possible I try to make it obvious I am trying to learn and not critiquing their methods.
Always be polite and try to imagine how you would feel working with someone watching over you asking questions,
Random thought, it is perfectly possible to have an acceptable and even pleasant washroom that is only 3' wide. It does require some unique fixtures.
Hi guys love your stuff, I live in Australia and just got to say a lot of what you guys do is pretty similar to what we do here! Keep up the good work!!!
Cool, thanks!
When sweated it watching you lift! Scary!
Soo many dad noises...
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we have exposed 10m log beams between our ground & 1st floor. Our Estonian log house was partly reno'd, partly new built in 2009
Out of curiosity, have you done a cost/benefit analysis of total repairs and grief vs a ground up build on a clean lot?
"Dad can I go down now?" "Oh it's fine relax"
That's funny
Finally a video with the same basements as mine.
man, you should go with tankless water heater, it's the best, always hot water! Not sure if ya'll can use them where you are. Cheers
Yeah man just bought a small house built 1947 and have to get a few more jacks in the basement.
Assume the water softener will add time to the aluminum rod in the water heater?
I've never seen trees used in a house before, wow! lol
Something that is common (even today) is when a house is severely damaged like in a storm or fire they'll rebuild and reuse the existing foundation. That could explain why the basement uses different technology than the rest of the house.
15:59 literally that one pin on the top of the jack just as you said ugh
That basement just said Ahhhhhhhhhh!