9000 Volt Plasma Tornado Made by Electricity

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • If fire tornadoes are a true phenomenon, can high voltage plasma be forced into a vortex of its own? I wasn't sure of the answer before filming this video, but feel I have a pretty solid idea afterwards. This video will be followed up with additional experiments! PLEASE TURN ON YOUR NOTIFICATIONS FOR THIS CHANNEL
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  • @ElectroBOOM
    @ElectroBOOM 5 лет назад +179

    Nice! I wonder what would happen if the wires were up and down rather than side by side. The arc would be vertical to start with, maybe it would do a belly dance?!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  5 лет назад +38

      Hey Boom! I attempted this, and found the arc rotated, rather slowly, while bowed out. It just rotated once per second like a lazy Suzan arc. Wasn’t as interesting to film.

    • @ExpertCMX
      @ExpertCMX 5 лет назад +5

      Hi Mehdi. :)
      I really love your videos and content. Hope to see you soon.

    • @AGaltitude88
      @AGaltitude88 5 лет назад +3

      Hi electroboom

    • @jamesharrell4360
      @jamesharrell4360 5 лет назад +5

      Both of you heros of mine... I have a similar concept I've been wanting to try. But would be willing to pass on the opportunity to either of you to do for the views.
      Take the rotor out of a decent sized 3phase motor. Hook it up to a VFD, Put a nice acrylic tube through the motor and pull a vacuum. I think you both see where this is going. 😃

    • @thygate
      @thygate 5 лет назад +4

      That, and a bigger beefier FULL BRI..

  • @tob_mb3736
    @tob_mb3736 5 лет назад +34

    There's my favorite plasma bender

  • @professorEduardoBrasil
    @professorEduardoBrasil 5 лет назад +36

    try a microwave oven transformer for that: 2000V 1A. Arcs should be hotter and thicker

    • @paulmcgrath2175
      @paulmcgrath2175 5 лет назад +5

      Yep, I got 6 inch loops with one once before the breaker popped. I think it was producing around 650 mA.

    • @derivativ3
      @derivativ3 5 лет назад +2

      Professor K MOTS are terrible for long lasting arcs, don’t rely on them to last more than a few minutes without melting lmfao

    • @paulmcgrath2175
      @paulmcgrath2175 4 года назад

      Might be fun to watch

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +11

      I tried an MOT off camera. It was just too much power for my little setup. Vapporized the wires and burned the plastic in less than 1 second.

    • @professorEduardoBrasil
      @professorEduardoBrasil 4 года назад +1

      @@PlasmaChannel thanks Jay! Maybe it would work with a sturder setup...

  • @ExpertCMX
    @ExpertCMX 5 лет назад +1

    Welcome back Jay!!!! No wonder I felt the classiness as I woke up. I just wanted to say that your experiments with plasma is one of no kind!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      John, thank you so much for your kind words! Stay classy

  • @paritoshgavali
    @paritoshgavali 3 года назад +1

    This channel is underrated .... there are so many good science youtube channels that don't have many subs.. Keep on the good work ⚡🔥

  • @johnwilson4909
    @johnwilson4909 3 года назад +1

    Good start! Two suggestions. 1) If you form the electrodes in a tall V shape (Jacobs Ladder) the plasma will heat and rise more easily. Also be more responsive to the convection current. 2) Add a ring magnet, like one from a magnetron, at the base. The magnetic field will also make the plasma spin. Positioning will be tricky. That is it. Please try some new ideas and make a part two.

  • @ojsweatedplayer9477
    @ojsweatedplayer9477 4 года назад

    In my school they don't teach us that plasma is the 4th state of matter until we're in high school i think my state should change that so that's another reason I love your channel keep it up

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Aden, thank you for your comment. Yes, plasma is the 4th state of matter, and it is surprising your school did not teach you this.

  • @whatitmeans
    @whatitmeans 4 года назад +1

    Nice experiment and explanations of results... maybe, to mantain the electric arc plasma more time ionizated, you could try inyecting microwaves, like in the fire flames enhancing effect that happens when you microwave a burning match in the microwave oven (lots of videos availables in youtube).... I think by shooting them with a microwave gun could work, as the home made ones than you can find in youtube...... If you try it please tagg me in the video!!

  • @kenshiromilesvt.7037
    @kenshiromilesvt.7037 5 лет назад +1

    Your experiments are always LIT 🔥

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Mitch, i try my best to show #PlasmaNation things they have not seen before.

  • @simont3686
    @simont3686 5 лет назад +1

    This is the perfect youtube channel.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Thank you, Simon. Please feel free to share any videos you deem share-worthy.

  • @cisarvialpando7412
    @cisarvialpando7412 5 лет назад +15

    Can you tell me how you increased the current from 30 mA to 60 mA of the Neon Sign Transformer ??

    • @simont3686
      @simont3686 5 лет назад +9

      Two in parallel.

    • @simont3686
      @simont3686 5 лет назад +1

      Or remove the shunts.

    • @hyperhektor7733
      @hyperhektor7733 4 года назад +1

      th trasformator might have 2 outputs like most transformers (3pins total)

    • @simont3686
      @simont3686 4 года назад

      But the one he used had only one. I have never seen one with two outputs.

    • @hyperhektor7733
      @hyperhektor7733 4 года назад +1

      @@simont3686 there is a lid you can screw of on some models i know of (lid is for HV security)

  • @entrad157
    @entrad157 4 года назад +1

    Hi Jay,
    Another great video, thank you :)

  • @matthewmeuleman3369
    @matthewmeuleman3369 4 года назад

    One suggestion, gas filled and vacuum based HV switchgear is designed to quench the arc. Couldn't you use a transparent pressure chamber you vacuum atmosphere out of, and replace with a conductive gas to aid the arc?

  • @knoxpruett1889
    @knoxpruett1889 5 лет назад +1

    Jay, while it is not a vortex, it would be cool to make a Jacob's ladder using 2 spiraled up-rods to get a rotating plasma as it rises.

    • @DavidCook42
      @DavidCook42 5 лет назад +1

      Here ya go. It is cool ruclips.net/video/-AsaGgb5ixo/видео.html

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      That is a great demonstration. I have thought about it before, but, I am actually not the biggest fan of Jacobs ladders.

  • @charmio
    @charmio 3 года назад

    You might already know but you can get insulating gloves made for handling these voltages for under $30.
    I reckon gloves are a great buy!
    Just make sure they're class 2 or higher:
    Class 00 (500-650V), Class 0 (1,000V), Class 1 (7,500V), Class 2 (17,000V), Class 3 (26,500V) up to Class 4 (36,000V)
    Pro tip:
    If you go to buy these you'll see thin cotton inner gloves being sold beside them on the shelf. They're not optional! You'll barely be able to get the rubber gloves on without them and will be disgustingly sweaty after 5 minutes.
    Insulating floor mats are also a good second line of defence (again, so long as it's class 2+) but they're more expensive and somewhat less useful when playing with neon transformers because there output isn't referenced to ground though this should not be relied on.
    If you don't like the idea of gloves getting in your way (class 2 gloves are thick) another good idea I've seen is powering it from a dead man's switch mounted just out of reach of the project but what's the fun in that!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  3 года назад

      Thanks for the reminder - I need to get me a pair.

  • @mykulpierce
    @mykulpierce 5 лет назад

    Great video! In junior high I actually did a tornado chamber for my science fair project. That design consisted of the heat plate with water plexiglass doors that slid in four directions and heat lamps on top with a chimney in the center top. this creates a higher heat difference between the inside of the chamber and the outside of the chamber and gives a direction for air to rise. In the same way if you add a top with a chimney you can trap more heat within the chamber so the cooler air that comes in from your slats will create the heat difference needed for the convection to Twist!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hi Mike! I tried something similar, and found that the vortex shrank in size, but, was much more stable. I'll give it another go ahead and see what happens

    • @mykulpierce
      @mykulpierce 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel maybe air intake issue? Hmm interesting to think about! Can't wait to see your next attempt!

  • @SUPERMAR10312
    @SUPERMAR10312 5 лет назад +3

    I wonder what would happen if you did the grape in the microwave trick with the two halves of that tube

    • @mk6315
      @mk6315 5 лет назад

      SUPERMAR10312 microwaves don’t cook evenly inside, it might take a few tries. Also cooking acrylic might smell bad. Just things to think of while you imagine your experiment 🙂

    • @SUPERMAR10312
      @SUPERMAR10312 5 лет назад

      @@mk6315 you know what trick I mean right? ruclips.net/video/wCrtk-pyP0I/видео.html

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hey SUPER, that is a great question. I am not inclined to place arcylic in the mwave, but, perhaps i could try it with a small tube and a grape.

  • @Vidduley
    @Vidduley 5 лет назад

    Cool! Very clever idea Jay, I'd love to see more of it! But don't forget that you still need the voltage to maintain the ionization of the air, so I think there should be a sweet spot somewhere in between. I would suggest trying the high frequency arc with a couple of hundreds of mA in it, the HF generally dumps more energy into the gas than DC and 50 Hz; for example you could try an old AC flyback. Good luck!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hey Vidduley! Glad you enjoyed. Trying this with high frequency AC is something I do want to try.

  • @mundymorningreport3137
    @mundymorningreport3137 4 года назад

    Magnetic fields are created by charge particles oriented by charge fields. Put a high voltage field top to bottom outside your plasma arc. It should form a tornado

  • @ElectricUniverseEyes
    @ElectricUniverseEyes 5 лет назад +1

    You had me at Vortex

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Haha, i'm honored you watched.

    • @ElectricUniverseEyes
      @ElectricUniverseEyes 4 года назад

      Plasma Channel I’m honored you replied :) Been watching you for years and learned a lot. You’ve kept me from killing myself in my own experiments!

  • @Xeno_Bardock
    @Xeno_Bardock 5 лет назад +8

    Try increasing the frequency along with current. Maybe 50-60 hz frequency is too low for plasma tornado.

    • @garryclelland4481
      @garryclelland4481 5 лет назад +3

      thats what i was thinking , drive the transformer with a ZVS unit or a VFD

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +4

      I agree, and think i'll try it with the ZVS driver that I have.

  • @12mrmajestic
    @12mrmajestic 3 года назад

    In Home Made Lightning by R A Ford there is a chapter on electric tornados. He used a shallow pan with water and placed a clay pot upside down in the pan. He hooked one pole to a probe and the other to the pan. He was able to create vortex between the probe and surface of wet pot.

    • @12mrmajestic
      @12mrmajestic 3 года назад

      Thanks Jay, been a fan your channel for a long time.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  3 года назад

      I may have to try this. Thanks for always supporting my work!

  • @iamkian
    @iamkian 5 лет назад +1

    Yes. i was dreaming about making fire tornado's. good video! Thank you Jay.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hey Kian, thanks for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed the viddy.

  • @AGaltitude88
    @AGaltitude88 5 лет назад +1

    Yay another video

  • @jajwarehouse1
    @jajwarehouse1 4 года назад

    Higher atmospheric pressure may help, also. The air has very little force to push upwards on the plasma. Also, unlike a fire tornado, the plasma vortex you have only has one point of heat at the bottom, while fire has additional fuel to burn while it rises, especially in situations like forest fires as they have solid fuel up to the top of the trees an then the vaporize carbon from there on up. Perhaps a column of several spark points would help, and if they could be out of phase from each other, it may work even better.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      You bring up good points. If the base had more heat spread out across the area, it would aide in rising heat. As per increased pressure, that would then also require more voltage to jump the gap.

  • @af0ulwind115
    @af0ulwind115 Год назад

    If you want a good spin... Place an axially polarized ring magnet below the Arc... If you want a taller twist place two axially polarized ring magnets with their poles in the same directions, one inside the other, this should force the flux to extend further before returning to the opposite poles of the magnets and the flux will twist the plasma.

  • @among-us-99999
    @among-us-99999 4 года назад +1

    Neodymium magnets do some weird Spinny things to 6kv 80mA arcs.
    And you could try to use argon gas!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      I plan on combining strong magnets with this vortex setup, acutaully. May get some cool results if I use DC

    • @among-us-99999
      @among-us-99999 4 года назад +1

      a few kHz of AC will also cause an interesting "squishing" (sometimes also splitting) effect because the arc isn’t only pulled to one side.
      And btw, over 50k subscribers already? wow!

  • @weazeldark3983
    @weazeldark3983 Год назад

    What u wanna look at n into
    The lpg turbo blow torches with 4x angled squares use that for ur hv arc point cause air turbulence vortex with arc point
    For displaying and wind speed rushing use a kerosene lamp glass tube
    Both those together should make it light up a storm

  • @adrianevans5953
    @adrianevans5953 4 года назад

    Your channel is superb very professional you should have way more subscribers than you do

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Adrian, thank you very much for your kind words. You can help with that! Please share any videos of mine you deem shareworthy. Cheers!

  • @goodthings6020
    @goodthings6020 3 года назад

    Maybe you could make a very small helical Jacob's ladder inside the tube as a kickstarter fed from below with a narrow stream of rotating air.

  • @Green__Man
    @Green__Man 5 лет назад +1

    Damn man this was crazy awesome

  • @ScientificLee
    @ScientificLee 5 лет назад

    Nice.....have you added smoke?...to see what is going where?...I would also move your nut/bolt arrangement off center left and right...as the air flow was inefficient due to the angle I was seeing for flow....just my observations...great experiment.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I tried two different nut/bolt placements - but could try additional. As for the smoke, that would have been such a good idea. I'm kicking myself for not including that in the viddy.

  • @sparrow082
    @sparrow082 5 лет назад

    If you place the capillary tube under the middle of the Ark, and pumped in just the tiniest amount of argon, or another active gas, it should cause the plasma Arc to climb even higher because there would be more surface area for the ions to jump across and illuminate. It makes sense in my mind but I have absolutely no idea if it would work.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Hi Adam, that makes sense actually. I can give this a try in time!

  • @CustomBoosted
    @CustomBoosted 5 лет назад +1

    Perfection as always!

  • @DineshKumarWickramasinghe
    @DineshKumarWickramasinghe 3 года назад

    Awesome experiment!!

  • @AtomkeySinclair
    @AtomkeySinclair 5 лет назад

    Deja' jacob's twisted ladder... I would like to see what happens if you close off the upper open sections and just let air jet in from the bottom and rise directly underneath the plasma stream. Then maybe place a single vertical strand of wire in the very center of your plasma from the bottom directly up though the center - I guess hang it from the top or something. See if that gives you the 'eye of the tornado' and something for the plasma to "follow" upwards. It may stabilize it? And I would also try adding a little magnetic flux to see if there is any interesting effect. Great content!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hi Atomkey! If I cut off the air flow from the sides ,there would be nothing to initiate a spin, and feed the spin. It would likely just be a vertical arc.

    • @AtomkeySinclair
      @AtomkeySinclair 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel Not the entire length of both sides. Quote: "I would like to see what happens if you close off the upper open sections" ~ so the air enters both sides just like you have it - but only the bottom half of the slits are open. Close off the tops to prevent air flow from disturbing to top half of the vortex ~ letting air flow up and over the terminals.

    • @AtomkeySinclair
      @AtomkeySinclair 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel You would still have airflow IN from both sides at the bottom - but only the bottom. The top half of the "tube" would have some tape or something wrapped around maybe...

  • @ratbuddy4642
    @ratbuddy4642 4 года назад

    Maybe, make an acrylic cone with a spiral lattice of nails sticking through the cone. Or, maybe have a cone with some kind of air flow of conductive material a powder that helps the plasma flow through the cone. Idk some ideas.

  • @Ri.S.H.u
    @Ri.S.H.u 5 лет назад +1

    Very nice

  • @Mass-jab-death-2025
    @Mass-jab-death-2025 Год назад

    You need you electrodes arranged differently as the arc will always be forced to travel in a straight line from one electrode to the other. If you arrange one electrode in a circular configuration and the other place dead centre of that circle your arc will be free to travel in a circular direction. You can increase the effect by using a toroidal magnet as an electrode and putting the other electrode dead centre of the magnet.

  • @beaclaster
    @beaclaster 4 года назад

    What a twist!

  • @thygate
    @thygate 5 лет назад

    maybe experiment with smooth and sharp electrodes instead of tinned or copper wires and try aiming them to control the arc shape. It would make sense to tune the voltage to the electrode distance, so it comfortably arcs, then up the current. The current power level (9kV*30mA=270W) seems reasonable, doubling it might not hurt to try. You might want to get some better electrodes, like platinum or something that doesn't melt at higher power levels.. Being able to control the duty cycle might also be desirable, any additional info on the power supply would be interesting. Looking forward to part 2.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Hi Bob. You bring up good points. The hotter arc was using 540 watts of power. I then, off screen tried another 270 watts and the arc was crazy. I decided to not show it in this video.

  • @valeriiradchenkov5761
    @valeriiradchenkov5761 4 года назад

    You can use a MOT (microwave oven transformer). It can provide up to 2000v 0.7a or 4000v 0.3a with a voltage doubler (the diode and the cap inside the microwave)

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I actually tried that. Too much current. Melts the contacts in seconds.

    • @valeriiradchenkov5761
      @valeriiradchenkov5761 4 года назад

      Of course if you have the thin wires you show on video they are going to melt. You can fix two "main" electrodes, e.g. two thick bolts (m5 or bigger). Then you can extend two very thin whiskers that have a space of ~2mm between them. The whiskers will easily melt and then the arc will run between the bolts.

  • @msvnr1951
    @msvnr1951 5 лет назад

    *Congrats on 50k Subscribers Jason!* 💐

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 5 лет назад

    A flyback transformer with a rectification stage in it would allow the arc to flow only one direction while with an NST is outputting AC voltage which will push and pull the arc in both directions causing destructive interference within and around the plasma causing it to be restricted.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Also with DC, magnets can be introduced.

    • @anthonyvolkman2338
      @anthonyvolkman2338 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel Absolutely! Use electromagnets to control and contort the arc. You could use use temperature senors along the chamber to tell tje UC what electromagnet to energize and at what frequency also potentially with an interupter to make sounds. Tjay would be really cool to try out.

  • @ImTheReal
    @ImTheReal 5 лет назад

    Pretty cool like ever ^_^
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    I was expecting a bit of smoke on the bottom 😅

  • @adalbertocordero9643
    @adalbertocordero9643 4 года назад

    Sweet Dude... but i question would moisture help it even further?? A mist..?

  • @Equelan2
    @Equelan2 5 лет назад

    This is amazing. Waiting for to see experiment done with apere above 1000ma. Thanks for sharing.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Well, even at 500ma (MOT) , it was too great for my materials. Wires were vaporized and the plastic melted in seconds.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @ElectroXa
    @ElectroXa 5 лет назад +1

    I suggest using a vertical arc in that tube to make a plasma tornado 😉

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I did try this. It was surprisingly ineffective

  • @esecallum
    @esecallum 4 года назад

    I wonder if tornadoes which plague America and cause death and destruction could be stopped by firing vortex rings from giant concert speakers/speaker horns mounted on the backs of large trucks and lorries or firing various frequency sound waves at the center of the tornado to disrupt the tornado vortex. In a similar way a candle can be snuffed out by a plop by a speaker close by.

  • @sebastianwehler3218
    @sebastianwehler3218 4 года назад

    All energy travels in vortex motion, immovable fact. Even when not always visible to the naked eye.

  • @dancoulson6579
    @dancoulson6579 4 года назад

    I think a smaller containment vessel would help.
    Sure the plasma is much hotter, but there's much less of it.
    If a small tube was used, the speed of the airflow would be increased.

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 5 лет назад

    Perhaps stacking multiple electrodes vertically, so you have 3-4 horizontal arcs, and a smaller exhaust hole at the top, so most of the angular momentum of the incoming air has to be dumped into the plasma before the hot exhaust can escape...?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Michael, that is a great idea. I will try this. If I shoot a viddy about it, i'll give you credit.

    • @ozzymandius666
      @ozzymandius666 4 года назад

      ​@@PlasmaChannel More or less energy, etc. More energy = more air moving, but higher voltage = more stiffness of the arc. That leaves tricks with air, fans, etc. I freaking love your work.

  • @zunden2
    @zunden2 3 года назад

    After i watched many of your channels, many things made me wonder, one thing that made me curious is about your electricity bill.

  • @garryclelland4481
    @garryclelland4481 5 лет назад

    Love it Jay , careful with the ozone as well

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Cheers, I am glad you enjoyed the viddy!

  • @postsurrealfish
    @postsurrealfish 4 года назад

    Whether as a PDM 1, 2 or 3, they are all electrical but with different current densities. From my Electric Weather Mechanics doc- "...As already stated, standard meteorology due to using only fluid mechanics can only have temperature moving the atmosphere around. But recently and after just the data from a big storm system was input into a super computer and without any preconceived ideas as to what was happening (fluid mechanics), it showed that the wrong type of temperature seemed to be doing the driving in the system.
    With it being the cold instead of the hot pushing air columns up. This left them scratching their heads as rising heat is supposed to drive weather patterns and not rising cold.
    But when seen as negative charge heading from the ground towards the positive ionosphere through the conduit of the cloud and as it does so, affecting the matter state of the H2O molecule, it then makes a lot more sense...." and this, which shows the mechanics- /watch?v=e2wbn3ivHwc&feature=emb_logo Also remember that after Dr. Don Scott mathematically described a Birkeland Current (dust devil, twister, waterspout etc), he showed them to be an electrical circuit and not just a power dump in one direction.

  • @electrorunnercrane
    @electrorunnercrane 5 лет назад +1

    Beautiful,😍 love lightning,love plasma ,this is life ,GOODNIGHT GOODLUCK 🎃,⚡

  • @calebscrazyamazinglife1795
    @calebscrazyamazinglife1795 3 года назад

    Jay talking about the one hand rule
    Me: what if I have metal in my pocket

  • @shaunrichter3735
    @shaunrichter3735 4 года назад

    try using the Lorentz force in fact if you create the Lorentz-O[Smoke-Ring] effect on a toroid craft it will create electrostatic repulsion and take off from gravity's electrostatic adhesion.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Thanks for the input. Gravity does not have an electrostatic component.

  • @XETECH
    @XETECH 5 лет назад

    Awesome bro always

  • @ThinklikeTesla
    @ThinklikeTesla 5 лет назад

    Maybe have the electrodes at different heights, so the 'natural repose' of the arc is more vertical… This might work even better if the electrodes are a bit farther apart than the arc can initiate (so it would need help to start -- maybe a lit candle waved underneath?).

  • @EmoBoiLink
    @EmoBoiLink Год назад

    Hey, I was just wondering if that would be enough output to ionize argon. Is there a way that electricity can ionize a gas without turning it into fire like propane?

  • @ExpertCMX
    @ExpertCMX 5 лет назад +2

    The people are obviously loving what they see but stay safe :)

  • @SudhirKumar-bq4xz
    @SudhirKumar-bq4xz 5 лет назад

    Great job, Clean experimental setup and simple explanation....
    In this experiment what happen if we change supply frequency....?
    I'm waiting for that giant voltage multiplier......⚡

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      I have had a few requests to try the arc at a higher frequency. I plan on doing a viddy very soon about it! Also, the giant multiplier is getting closer.....

  • @parrotroyalty8906
    @parrotroyalty8906 4 года назад +2

    I've heard that magnets work wonders when trying to make vortexes😁

  • @mauricehodgdon1885
    @mauricehodgdon1885 5 лет назад

    I have a layman thought. Heat one side of your Plex half tube and cool the other half. Heat always travels hot to cold.
    In addition wouldn't your plexi. Benefit with a funnel shape?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      That is an idea no one else has proposed. Cool idea. Maybe i'll try it.

  • @magicminex2250
    @magicminex2250 4 года назад

    This channel is everything I want to do

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I’m honored you found my channel! Welcome to #PlasmaNation

    • @magicminex2250
      @magicminex2250 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel REE YOU FOUND ME thx

  • @quirkyMakes
    @quirkyMakes 5 лет назад

    try a smaller diameter tube and a jacobs ladder setup. also if you can triple the frequency that would work.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Speaking with a few of my associates, we believe that a higher frequency arc would be beneficial.

  • @challanarendra6674
    @challanarendra6674 3 года назад

    Please explain what is current and what is voltage with clear explanation

  • @mernok2001
    @mernok2001 3 года назад

    Did you trust those thin wires at 9kV? I have 20kV silicone wire bit I can feel a slight tingle if I touch the insulation when the wire is just 3.5kV to ground(7kV neon transformer).

  • @Kepler_2258
    @Kepler_2258 5 лет назад

    also i figured out while testing the lamp with high voltage if you put the ground wire near the base of the lamp while it has 20kv running through it it produces xrays but it has to draw an arc on the inside of the bulb to the base and i burnt a hole in one of my neon bulbs doing that because the arc got too hot

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Yes, producing sparks in a vacuum has the potential to produce x rays. Gotta be careful with that!

  • @3DLearningResources
    @3DLearningResources 5 лет назад

    Nice , I think high current means more air ionization,or we can say more denser the arc. Am I right?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      That is correct. More current allows for more plasma to form.

  • @Electronic4081
    @Electronic4081 4 года назад

    Great video as always!

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Thanks EI! I really appreciate that.

  • @robokid20001
    @robokid20001 5 лет назад

    Do you think that moving the pipes closer together horizontally, I.E, making the vents smaller, would cause a bigger twist? That seems like it would restrict airflow and cause it to accelerate faster, spinning the plasma more.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      What is interesting, is I had to experiment with the perfect distances to find the sweet spot.

    • @robokid20001
      @robokid20001 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel I don't mean moving the pipes closer or further away from each other horizontally, but moreso moving them along the other access to speed up the flow of air. Those vents seem large, but then again, I'm also not the expert.

  • @theplasmaprince8651
    @theplasmaprince8651 3 года назад

    Perhaps you could ballast a dual or triple MOT power supply to only draw 10A when shorted out, and place the electrodes vertically in the vortex rather than side by side! I think the results could be promising...

  • @meow-says-the-cat
    @meow-says-the-cat 5 лет назад

    How does this still not have a million views

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Dragon, I wish it did! I think its a really cool phenomenon. Please share on reddit or other social media to help it get to a million. Cheers!

    • @meow-says-the-cat
      @meow-says-the-cat 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel wow, yeah... Done waaaay before you said this😁

  • @maxmustermann5353
    @maxmustermann5353 3 года назад

    I am wondering what it would look like under a partial vacuum. The glow might expand a bit more, revealing more of the Vortex.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  3 года назад

      Hmm that's not a bad idea....... However, under partial vacuum, the spin would be slower since the buoyancy differences in hot and cold air would be less (leading to slower rise of hot air)

    • @maxmustermann5353
      @maxmustermann5353 3 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel Yes it probably would be slower. I saw a video of someone trying to do a tornado with a MOT. It was very bright, rather small and too quick to see the Vortex properly. Reducing the pressure might decreases the current, so that your wires doesn't melt (I would suggest carbon electrodes anyways), the glow gets dimmer, but bigger and more controllable, because you can control the Gap and airspeed, by controlling the pressure. At least that's what I am hoping it will do.

  • @Xeno_Bardock
    @Xeno_Bardock 3 года назад

    Try this. Have the two neon sign transformers operate 180 degrees out of phase to each other at high current. See what happens if you bring wires from two neon sign transformers closer to each other. Maybe it will help convection going better and form stronger plasma vortex.

    • @Xeno_Bardock
      @Xeno_Bardock 3 года назад

      As for ground/neutral, you can add a bottom metal plate at the center connected to ground/neutral. So two wires from two neon sign transformers operating 180 degrees out of phase to each other and pointed at each other placed at some height above the ground/neutral plate placed below between the two wires.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  3 года назад

      Hmmmm that's an interesting proposal. Tell you what, i'll give that a try and see what happens out of it. Thanks Xeno!

  • @greg669
    @greg669 5 лет назад

    Place in vacuum? Or fill with some other gas and possibly use a magnetic field to create the spin instead of airflow

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      I think i'll first try more power, and, higher frequency.

  • @ivannaz2
    @ivannaz2 5 лет назад

    Perhaps some magnetic field would help, if you have your current in a single direction instead of AC. This would be easily achieved with a microwave oven HV diode (typically 12kV). If you have readily available some of those very strong neodymium magnets, perhaps its field would curl the plasma even more.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I actually plan to attempt this with DC. I'd use a FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER to get the most power out of the AC

  • @nfinsel
    @nfinsel 5 лет назад

    In addition to what you're doing there I wonder how we chimney would work, on top. More air being pulled in?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I found that by constricting the air up top, it damaged the vortex.

    • @nfinsel
      @nfinsel 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel Well it was just an ideal.

  • @michaelmitchell8218
    @michaelmitchell8218 5 лет назад

    Great to see more stuff from you. Just one thing. You have to watch using some neon transformers they have safety feature on them that cut them of if you arc it. I’m just saying because I had to remove this on some transformer for some people. I seen a lot of them on cheap ones on eBay and you can’t take them apart because they are glued up.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      That safety feature is very annoying for us experimenters. I cant stand the modern NSTs

  • @noelandrew3600
    @noelandrew3600 5 лет назад

    use a few MOTs to get higher current, and submerge them in oil to prevent flashovers, 4 MOTs should do the trick and provide more than enough current to form a wicked plasma Tornado but a very very lethal one.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hi Noel! I tried a single MOT and it vaporized my entire wire and acrylic cylinder. I decided to try with lower power levels!

    • @noelandrew3600
      @noelandrew3600 4 года назад

      @@PlasmaChannel yeah mots are pretty scary, kinda one extreme to the other. the other option is finding a 60ma NST like what i have in my tesla coil, or two phased together like i have to give you 120ma, maybe enough to get what your wanting from this?

  • @timovneerden
    @timovneerden 5 лет назад

    This is everything one could expect from a "Plasma Channel" :D
    Just an idea/question: once the plasma channel (the actual one, not the youtube channel) is formed, couldn’t you lower the voltage and increase the current?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Great question! Yes, in theory you could do that. A dynamic voltage may be a cool idea to try.

  • @tarun.starboy
    @tarun.starboy 5 лет назад

    🎇🎇🎇PLASMA TORNADO🎇🎇🎇
    Plasma Channel is the only channel that makes me believe that I haven't seen everything yet😛
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    Hey jay, as plasma is simply ionised gas that emits radiation (visible spectrum most of the time) when electrons jumps back from high energy state to lower energy state. And all this happens so quickly. So, here goes my silly question :- I was wondering if it's possible to create plasma that can be contained inside of an insulated container so that it can be poured into a different container without losing the plamsa state. Like having a bottle filled with plasma.
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    Just came into my mind 😛
    Yeah, plamsa is simply energised(energised electrons) gas that needs continuous source of energy to glow but wouldn't that be awesome if its possible to be able to carry a bottle filled with plasma.
    Just a random idea😝

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Hey Tarun! Wooo! You're my number one commenter. You raise a very good question, one which i've thought about for some time. It would be difficult to contain plasma without constantly putting energy into it. However, if these storage devices had their own energy stores to maintain the plasma, there is no reason you cannot transfer the energy between containers!

  • @willembont4790
    @willembont4790 4 года назад

    Sooo Coool! Do something with magnets?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      That is in the works, good Willem. I plan to use DC next time.

  • @lastmoversbutfastmovers4757
    @lastmoversbutfastmovers4757 5 лет назад +1

    Bro soo good👌👌👌👍

  • @MarianKowal3000
    @MarianKowal3000 4 года назад

    What current you use AC or DC . Because I'm guessing with DC supposed to work . Because there is no momentum direction change of current flow . You could also experiment with a acrylic nozzle left turn or right turn . Also if you will try a vertical configuration of electrode . Also top and bottom polarization of electrode .

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      This is AC current, from neon sign transformers. The vertical configuration, I found out, does not help the vortex...it actually hurts it.

  • @kingphantom7284
    @kingphantom7284 5 лет назад

    Maybe if you add a cryocooler near the bottom of it there might be a bit more of a plasma vortex because of the more dramatic change of temperature.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      A few people have proposed this, and it's a great Idea. I may need to give it a try.

  • @colleenforrest7936
    @colleenforrest7936 3 года назад

    What if you used a magnetic field instead of air? Or maybe with the air?

  • @kchstudiophx9843
    @kchstudiophx9843 4 года назад

    Have you tried a Jacob's Ladder with a ' helix spin doubled' , it wouldn't be a true vortex though. Wish you luck.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Thanks for the idea. I have thought about it - but am not the biggest fan of jacobs ladders.

  • @mrsc1914
    @mrsc1914 4 года назад

    supposedly, higher hz / khz makes the the HV whole thing less dangerous . Have u considered changing the switching speed of all ur experiments?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      Great point. I indeed intend to do the best of both worlds in this next viddy. I will be using high frequency DC. A full bridge rectified DC, in the kHz range.

  • @4DRC_
    @4DRC_ 5 лет назад

    What about a plasma vortex in which the vortex is created purely by electromagnetic fields alone? As in multiple sources such that the current both rotates and moves linearly. Would the superposition of the two be a tight vortex?

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      It would be difficult to get a tight vortex with that method, but I plan on trying!

  • @keghnfeem4154
    @keghnfeem4154 5 лет назад

    Magnetron uses a magnet to make spin. May not work positive ions will go in opposite directions?

  • @BurkenProductions
    @BurkenProductions 3 года назад

    I wonder what a heat gun below the plasma flame would do

  • @red.kardinal
    @red.kardinal 4 года назад

    Hi, try jackops ladders in spiral and parallel to ground or a helical shape.

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      I have thought about it - though that device may take up a lot of room.

  • @souvikchakraborty9228
    @souvikchakraborty9228 3 года назад

    why dont you try that in a vaccum .........enclose that stuff in acryllic with pump attached for vaccum and a screw knob to adjust the inbetween distance....hope it mich work.....

  • @PappaLitto
    @PappaLitto 5 лет назад +2

    Careful with more current! Though I would love to see 100mA+ lol

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад

      I tried 100ma and the results were indeed slightly better, though, not much. I'll attempt more power

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 4 года назад +1

      Plasma Channel
      MORE POWAH !!!

  • @tltoan0s300
    @tltoan0s300 3 года назад

    Try adding frequency get a speaker & try a high frequency (also vibration)

  • @randomrangoon5476
    @randomrangoon5476 3 года назад

    The lady says go to bed already
    NO,I need to learn how to make this plasma tornado babe

  • @RAFALAMAO_
    @RAFALAMAO_ 5 лет назад

    Amazing bro, greattings from Mexico

    • @PlasmaChannel
      @PlasmaChannel  4 года назад +1

      Thank you Aaron, greeetings from Seattle