Brandon Tan (#1 Pokémon GO Player) on Multiple Accounts, Grinding XP, and Traveling the World
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2018
- I sat down with the world's #1 Pokémon GO Player, Brandon Tan. As of this interview, Brandon has over 580 million XP in Pokémon GO. We talk about his strategies for grinding, traveling the world to learn from other Pokémon GO communities, the use of multiple accounts in Pokémon GO, and much more! If you actually read these descriptions, let me know if you like this format, as it's something I'd like to try doing a little more often.
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There's no friend code in this video. Please watch the interview if you're interested. Friend code will be back in the next regular video.
Trainer Tips I’m not interested in your friend code.
Trainer Tips i do want friend codes :'(
Who was that in the back ground at beginning of the video?
Trainer Tips I finally found a raid group this Year! I waited 7-8 hours for a raid group to help me with raids last year, and no one showed. Prayed to Christ for a group, now I have more than 20 people inside my group now a days! Looking forward to your friend code.
ok trainer tips
Was brandon thinking in his mind how much xp is he losing during this interview? 😅😂
Nope... He had his gotcha on. Lol
No xp waste
Bro he’s like biatch catch up 😂
Am I the only one who appreciates little Bulbasaur on the laptop!? He is so cute
Sancerree I love the Bulbasaur too
No you’re not
I think he also placed it there because it makes the shot more interesting and complements the other colors in the video. Green is the complement to red, which Brandon’s shirt has.
Where can we buy it ? Does anyone know?
I want one where can I buy it
this is the second time nick has inspired me to buy something, first his waist bags secondly this bulbasaur on his laptop.
These are the answers we want to know !
does anyone else find it ungodly the amount of raids that brandon does on a regular basis? i'm lucky if i do one raid a day. where my one raid per day squad at
If I have enough coins I do 4
i get like 1 to 5 a month
1 every 6 months 😂
i have only been to a raid and its in Dubai , we don't have gyms in nigeria
I do 1 raid per week
Been a witness to how incredible Brandon is as a grinder, it's insane with how much efficiency he's automatically performing certain actions to take time, for instance where there isn't a lot of spawns and there's even a couple of seconds of downtime he spends it sending out gifts or using berries on Pokémon he has in gyms.
Another thing that was mind blowing to me was the fact that Brandon uses ALL of his berries for feeding Pokémon in gyms just so he could get more Stardust, he doesn't use any Pinap Berries on Pokémon to increase the amount of candy obtained from Pokémon, my best guess is that this is due to the amount of time he dedicates catching Pokémon anyway.
He's truly at a different level and I've got a lot of respect for it, great interview Nick!
Reversal I agree! As someone who’s always low on stardust I need to adopt that strategy more lol.
I think this is fairly common among the high level players. If you ever need candy for a certain mon there is rare candy. Now you can trade for candy. Also, dust count is a number that some folks look at to measure progress. If you sit at 10M, no one can criticize you on how to spend it. 1M trade? Some folks would flip out. It's like paying for a Lambo in cash.
Hey man, can you please reconsider talking to the folks at The Lured up Podcast? they are great, no hard feelings :) Cheers
That's interesting that he doesn't use pinap berries for catching. I feed a lot of them to gyms too, but not all
Reversal oh my dayyyys
28:28 Nick's views on Multi accounting vs Spoofing. 30:10
34:00 Tan's views on multiple accounts. 42:42 on TOS.
Sherwin Correa u the real mvp
Sherwin Correa thnx
I spoof because well gas prices
Lol listen to this guy explain how much he spends on raid passes; theres your answer as to why multiaccounts will never be banned. 6 accounts. Joke.
Yea Nick and Brandon justify their cheating pretty hard. Now rules can be viewed by if they are "malicious" or not, fuck offfffff lol
Nick thank you so much for sharing this video!!! I will watch the whole thing: TWICE! I love that it's basically a chill documentary. Thanks Nick, you always do amazing work!!!
yea, super chillin convo. Brandon is brilliant. He has to be making money or come from money because you can tell he is very educated and well read. You can pick up on his nuanced social interactions that feel seemless. The man is a beast.
Nick should interview you next
Ayyyyyyyyyy level 40 team valor in the comments! Holly! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Long Beach is my city
milk truck just drive
49:40 "Don't half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing." -Trainer Tips Nick 2018
I low key appreciate this title isn't in all caps.
EmmaSenshi same tbh
I high key appreciate it
So unnecessary, we watch Nick for his quality.
SunsGinger right, we do. That's why if he's already known for good quality videos then having to click bait with all caps is unnecessary plus it's a "technique" used on youtube which I'm tired of seeing. Not saying he can't do it but leave it for REALLY hyped moments, events, or discoveries. Because if he uses it for all then it just takes away the importance of it.
EmmaSenshi I agree.
The "Active Radius" difference based on proximity to the equator, is a fascinating detail. Thank you Nick and Brandon for getting into this level of depth.
You are the first person I've ever heard voice my "reason behind the rule" outlook on life. Thank you. That makes my day.
Love the long/pod form, I get a lot from these videos and feel there's so much more to go! Thank you both
Fantastic video nick, I appreciate the questions you asked him. Brandon Tan is a very interesting player so it's very insightful to hear his views on things, especially as he plays so differently than I do. I love this kind of content!
I do like this format. Like you guys said, the community is different everywhere & for those of us who can’t travel, we get to hear & see what the game is like elsewhere. We get to know what other communities are like & even get a leg up should we get to travel or if we move. For myself, it gives me ideas on how to maximize my gameplay where live & overcome whatever obstacles I encounter in my neighborhood. I don’t have all the answers so seeing what other players do really helps me out & gives me ideas. This is one of the biggest reasons why I love everyone’s travel vlogs. You’re helping me expand on my experience at home & make the most of what little resources I have.
I enjoyed this format alot. My commute is long and I listen to alot of podcasts and admittedly watch your daily vids while driving. This is a welcome addition to the channel. Keep doing what feels right. It's served you well.
Years later still come back to this and your channel consistently. You make good stuff man even when I’m not playing the game I can enjoy a video of yours.
In our small town in Sweden(Mjölby) 3 players, me + 2 more started to play Ingress January this year, after we all hit lvl 10 we have went from 11 Gyms in the whole town to ~27 gyms. Just by adding new portals =D
Just finished watching, thank you both for taking the time to do this! Definitely gained a lot from listening to this!
YES! Please do more videos like this. Watched this with my morning coffee and couldn't have been more entertained!
Love the Interview, chill style of this vid. So much knowledge between you guys, THANK YOU!!!
As a rural player that has to drive a hour to get to a good spot to raid and grind, I'm truly jealous I wish ninnatic would help us rural players out.
Do you still play?
The noobs who disliked this video still throw straight and only keep "the highest CP"
Bboom Bap 😂
or they know that brandon has paid services and breaks tos
@@gamunuwithana7243 that was many months ago buddy
@@sajum4869 i know it was a while ago but it was around the same time as this video was posted
@@gamunuwithana7243 who cares.....
I know this is an older video, but I absolutely love this content, please do more videos like this!!!
Finally had the time to sit down and watch the interview in full. Very interesting to hear his thoughts always. Great interview!!
I really like this new format, an occasional interview/podcast with members of the PoGo community is something that would take this channel to the next level!
Level 39. Never broken any Terms of Service rules . I'm a Rural player and had fun and worked hard to get to the level I'm on.
Dale Michaud have you ever played while driving? Breaking ToS
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at least he goes out unlike trash ass spoofers lmao
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I've added you as a friend. Thank you
Best and most interesting video so far! I watch all of them, but this is REALLY nice to watch and even show people that don’t play PoGo. Well done 👍🏻
Pretty great and amazing interview. I especially loved hearing about the conversation about memorable moments in PGO. Made me think back on some of the most memorable moments I've had in the game.
I love Brandon Tan, he's so analytical. I'd love to just have lunch with him sometime. And maybe buy one of those leet trays he uses for multiple devices. Signed by and designed by him. I'm not joking either-that's on my bucket list.
*Nick plays host to the #1 Pokemon Go player in the world*
"You can have the less comfortable chair"
Wut? 😂😂😂
jdzumwalt3 I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who picked up on that. Way to host a guest! Lol 😂
Pretry sure they get along like that
he knows it is obviously a joke, as Nick is friends with him in real life AND in PoGo
Curious Cat pretty sure you don't understand jokes but ok
Chris Komjian joke went way over your head but thanks
i liked this format very much. it was very interesting listening to you and brandon talk about your views and play styles. i'm hoping to see more of these in the future.
I liked this format, Nick. It's nice to have a longer video every now and then where you or others get to go in depth on certain topics.
I would love more videos like this!
Love these kind of talks. One on one.
Absolutely amazing video, watched it all the way through, was a ton of fun getting insight from one of the games greatest! Would love to see more podcast style videos in the future!
I really like this format as well as your usual videos. I do love the travel videos but also the diversity between the videos is great. Keep up the good work 😊
"Comparison is the thief of joy" ~ Theodore Roosevelt
People in my city can't beat legendaries without my 3 accounts. I live in a rural area with 3 trainers
Max Smith damn and I thought I had it rough in my area
I really enjoyed this format and the conversation. I'd like to see more of this
I wasn't sure whether I would get through a hour long video but wow it was so interesting. The way he's worked everything out and the math he applies to it is fascinating. I still not sure how I feel about multiple accounts but it's good to see the different points of view. For me i'm happy with one account (don't think my brain could handle more) but then we play as a family which makes raiding easier. I like the relaxed set up. Thanks for sharing and putting this together.
Moved to a small town a couple months ago. Through a little education of the community of how EX Raids work, we were able to trigger the first even Mewtwo because of Zapdos day.
Some moving in the right direction. We will see if we continue the down the right road.
how little of a town? im in the same situation, 5 gyms none sponsored or in parks. would love to trigger an EX here
Meatman Fantastico we have 3 gyms that are in a park. But no one here knew how the EX system worked and raided "downtown."
So, with an eligible gym you are pretty much out of luck.
that's what I thought, I had hope for a minute lol, thanks
Most people and I don't miss the maps either for finding pokémon in the wild, but we need better raid maps to be able to find raids further away than just 500 meters from our homes. We are not all RUclipsrs who can spend the entire day playing Go and looking for raids, so we need more help from the game - the kind of help that the raid maps gave us. We still miss the raid maps a lot as part-time players, so help us Niantic with much better in-game maps, please!
I agree. Niantic could take over Gymhuntr. I wouldn't even mind paying 1 coin per month for access, then I would also buy more raid passes if I could find the lower tier raids that I could solo (or duo with my daughter's account, shh, does that count as multiple?). It would be a win, win all round. Hear that Niantic, more $$$s for you!
Or you could make friends. That’s what I’ve done I have made friends with several ppl in my community and when I want to find a raid I go on discord and communicate with my community. If I’m looking for something specific they will tag me so I can get it. We coordinate with time and another thing that really helps is leaving a Pokémon at a gym even if it’s a friend. Just ask your friend hey anything at so and so gym or check your Pokémon if you see an egg going to pop then go ahead and see what pops you can check like every 50 min to see if an egg has appeared. If you really want to do raids then make the effort. It’s what the game was made for not to just sit at home all day
Ps I’m not a RUclipsr, I work, and have children. Yet I can find gyms. If your area doesn’t have a discord then try making one for your community. Trust me it really works
B-Music We have a community and FB raid posts, but I and some of the other most active raiders can't see most of the gyms from our homes and many of the raids are not posted or so late that we are not able to make it in time. Good advice, but unfortunately it doesn't help us in our situation. We still need better raid maps. We also miss the information about boss movesets - very important information if only few raiders are available.
I too am a busy single Mum and yes we have a great community here, I'm in 4 Messenger groups based on suburbs I can get to and we do communicate well, but low tier raids are rarely posted sadly. Cheers :)
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and took a large amount of useful information which may or may not help me in the future but I’m happy to know it nonetheless. Big 👍🏻 to more of these in the future
Incredible ideas about what to do with the rural pokestops and gyms. Love it! Thank you Brandon and nick!
So is spoofing for air support ok? No malicious intent involved.
I encountered Brandon just downstairs from my home once, he was basically grinding a gym till it goes Gold, it was around 8 pm when I saw him, and he told me he was going to fight and feed the gym till it goes Gold, which he estimated till around 2 am or so. I was simply blown away by that commitment, whilst felt bad for my friend who placed her Dragonite in the gym that night :( but just...wow
Boom12 do you know why he always avoids the question about what he does for a living? Well, he charges people to power up their accounts which is completely against the terms of services. Why does trainer tips promote this fraud? People need to know the real truth about this fraud that takes advantage of the game for his own profit. Notice that he avoids the question about his job.
Allen Jones he avoids the question because it's nobodys business what ANYONE does for a living.
Any idea as to how he did it until it was gold?
Allen Jones he says he catches pidgy for a Living. So that explains it
Great candid discussion on the community and status of the game. Thanks to Brandon for sharing his insight.
Lovely video and loving the format! it have this all down to earth and chill feeling around it
Brandon throughout the entire video thinking: *Man i'm missing out on an hour of grinding Pokemon Go*
I really don't mind people with multiple accounts. They still have to put in the effort on those accounts. They are just playing the game more..
TurtleFul not really.. They just carry more devices connect a gotcha.. And boom
Most the people I have come across have been avid players that literally just have 2 accounts that they play equally between. Not everyone is trying to scam the system somehow. And even though you have a second/third forth whatever and they have a gotcha with them they still have to manage their inventory and look trough IV's and evolve the right mons and chose the right counters and .... At that point they are literally just playing the game ... just x 2
everyone multi accounting should be in jail for life or deported
Maxwell Rose nice
what effort you’re talking about? it’s their choice to cheat the syatem and you call it effort? might as well tell spoofers that they also do their effort in teleporting and scanning the world to find rare pokemon. it’s the same analogy right? lol
Reached Level 39 today!!! Enjoyed this video Nick and Brandon. Thanks for this and I would certainly be interested in podcast/interview type content if possible, on top of all of the other things you do Nick. Keep up the good work both of you! :)
Still love all the videos you’ve done with Brandon, you guys have great chemistry. Would love to see him and you together more :D
I thought it was a live stream at first😂
My city has not had a mewtwo raid since 2017
Really enjoyed the long format, Interview style video. Would be great to see this from time to time.
Loved the video, watched the entire thing with great interest. thanks nick and brandon!
58:00 Of course you out of ALL 375 Pokémon you named that one! 😂😂😂
Reversal Hahaha
😂😂
#ScumOfTheEarth 😂
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That was awesomely sneaked in there 😂😂😂
"Pokemon is a lifestyle" why isn't that on merch yet?
please do this kind of videos in future too....thank you very much for posting this video...
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. You both have been transparent and honest with why you play the game and how you play the game. I agree with you when it comes to spoofing and multi-accounting. Where I play, multi-accounts have helped many people complete raids. And you're right, it comes down to the intent.
Its the "its not okay for you to break rules, but I will break all the rules I want because Im not breaking the 1 golden rule of spoofing, so I'm better than everyone else even though I carry around 5 ppls devices and do raids solo"
What's wrong with doing solo raids lmao
I don't think having multiple accounts is cheating
@@zindellsandria it is, it’s against the TOS
Holy moly it’s an hour long
JPQ Stevens time to stop what ever were doing grab popcorn water and watch it!!!
JPQ Stevens "it's an 1 long," lmao
That was amazing and informative. Don’t worry the sound was so good, I can hear the Go Plus going off in the background 😊 Thanks Nick.
I do like to hear a podcast format on conversations like this about pokemon go and about communities sharing ideas and issues on the game. I would love to hear this video as a podcast as well whilr grinding and playing Pokemon Go.
Ask if he would ever upload on his yt channel again
He does 😂
@@nishilbright2007 since when
@@xanderj3843 he's still uploading till today.
@@AaronChen91 he quit uploading for a year when I commented
Great interview! Thank you both for sitting down & answering our questions. Look forward to your next interview!
Love the format of this video and would love to see more videos like this. Especially if you were able to have other members of the POGO RUclips community as guests.
I would love to see more interviews like this. It was great.
Dear Nick. I've watched your videos since before the game launched and I never missed even a single episode. But every time you kinda backed Brandon Tan up with his multiple accounts issue by saying what he did isn't as bad as spoofing, I got more and more disappointed.
For me a free-to-play player, the only means of me getting Poke coins is to put my pokemon in gyms. I've had many experience of defeating 6 high CP pokemon (they have been in the gym for more than a day) in an enemy controlled gym (the only gym that is within walking distance from my house) by myself for 10 - 15 minutes only to get my pokemon knocked out 2 - 5 minutes later. Not by other trainers but the same *single trainer* who put all the same 6 pokemon earlier back into the gym.
How did I know it's the same person with multiple account? Because the trainer account names are like these; 'John', 'JohnJohn', 'John2', 'John2John', 'LittleJohn', 'JohnFTW'. So in my opinion, people who have multiple accounts are wasting my time just like your example of spoofers wasting your 40 minutes.
Even though he/she didn't spoof, by having 6 accounts, they can put themselves above a single, legit player whose trying to take down a gym alone. It literally discouraged me when I saw the same pokemon knocked my only defending pokemon out. So now I rarely put my pokemon in a gym. But whenever I do, and the same thing happened again, I can't be bothered battling the same Blissey, Snorlax, Tyranittar, Dragonite, etc.
Minzhora ok but what if I have say 3 accounts all different colors? Is that ok. If you took a gym near me and knocked out my red Pokémon and put in your yellow I’d just join you and put in from my yellow team.
P2P will always beat F2P players. 😭
Did u actually watch the video? Nick states that he is ok with multi-accounts ONLY when it is has NO downside for anyone at all, like raiding, but he is agasint what you mention, before writting a 3 paragraph comment, at least watch and understand the video lol
Wait the accounts are called John, John2 etc, but you said he/she?Don't know any female Johns personally.
Chicken Nuggets442 Did you just assume John’s gender? 😂
I have two account but I rarely spend time on my second account, I never place it in gyms, I never use it to feed barries, only thing I use it for is if we need that extra firepower at a raid
Same. There are people in my town who have 5-6 phones with 5-6 accounts. They can take down a gym in a few minutes then fill it instantly and then berry it forever.
Those people are cunts.
I have 2 accounts, a main and a second filled with only legendary pokemon caught in raids that I whip out if we're short on firepower.
MrTDS at least u have more than one device, with no one in my town 5 raid phone's would help me get my first not breakthrough legendary
Same also to help other if they missed the raid .
I have 3 accounts but they are all of different teams..so yeah you already know I don't fill up gyms with all of them at once.
If they make the legendary easier to battle for Articuno and Zapdos day then they should have a special day or weekend out of the month for everyone to try and catch legendary pokemon. You will just drop down the level of the pokemon from 20 to 15 like they did on those days.
Awesome interview with Brandon. Keep it going.......and thank you
This video was awesome. Loved all the insight from you both.
Did Brandon Tan just claim taking down a normal gym with his multiple accounts are supposed to be okay?
Personally I'm okay with both spoofing and multiaccounting as long as theres NO interaction with gyms
Any level 40 trainer could take down a gym by themselves. Why the hate wit multiple accounts. Better than people who berry cave a gym.
He did say it lol.
Raymond liu yea the golden razz berry should lose its power over time, like the first time you use it on a Pokemon it regains full health but the second time it regains like 75% and the third time like 50% and so on so that people can't golden razz a gym forever to prevent someone from taking it down. It used to be easier in the old gym system because you could take down a gym faster than someone who wanted to level up the gym and prevent you from taking it down
Jorge Lopez
Gold razz lose it's effect after 10 berries fed, problem with multiple accounts are that you can quickly take it down without the defender having time to react and the option to feed the gym.
One should be able to defend its gym.
It gives a multiaccounter an unfair advantage over a normal player, which is bad for the game.
I wonder what happened to the guy that quit his job on early days of Pokemon Go? Where is he today, is he still playing? Is he close to Brandon or he got back to the job. Find him and interview. LIKE WHO WANTS TOO to get him see this
Love the video and format Nick 👍🏼 More podcast QandA style videos would be gratefully received. Keep up the great work dude 👌🏼
This was a great interview! I love this style and it helps us all get to know more about the guest despite not being able to meet them in person. Next up, Nick interviewed by his mom and sister! 🤙
Does anyone know he charges a service to catch a legendary Pokémon in the game check his Twitter hows that better than any spoofers
SKYBLU644 naw they try to side that under the rug.
He doesbt have a job so he has to earn money somehow
@@MattDoes_Stuffs it is breaking tos
Make an Podcast, where you talk about current pogo stuff. maybe monthly. where you invite people over teamspeak/discord
yes I agree! I'd love that
One of my favorite videos Nick. Lots of good info and discussion.
This is a fantastic video! Definitely please do more stuff like this
The issue I come across most of the time with people with several accounts (in my community) is its easier to take and control gyms. Ruins it for others, Niantic made it one account per person for a reason.
Chase Jackson yes. Now fuck off
multi acounter here and i only use it to do raids, cba with gyms i barely wanna take gyms on my main account xD let alone on my second
You dont get it. Those people like Brandon are using those accounts to play raids. not to interrupt someoness gameplay.
I rob people, but I only do it to help my group.
There are players in my area who regularly take down gyms with 3 phones so no-one else can hold a gym for over an hour
I’ve never seen a dratini or hatched one ahaa
DMcG KEEP SEARCHING! 😊 I have one, a friend told me where it was and it was still there when I got there 😊
Try water biomes and find more 10km eggs
Richard Adams I’ll probably have a dragonite when I’m 97 years old
I hope you enjoy your tour and stay in Toronto Brandon Tan! I don't think i cant make it to the T.O. meetup but I hope you can stay for community day. Toronto loves Pokemon Go!!
So much insight that makes so much sense when you want to up your pogo gameplay.
I just want the spawns to be fair and not rural area I'll go to miami and nothing too good sf in cali or japan dragonite and typlosion spawns it's crazy i get pidgeys and rats alot and pretty much all junk makes it where i just dont wanna play anymore
Derek g yes I 200% agree with this
Just spoof
Manuel Lopez Spoofing is lame a defeats the purpose of the game and ruins the fun for other people who play legitimately though so.
Red Falcon Jackson thats one opinion but how does the way one person plays ruin the way another person plays its a collection game with no pvp how is spoofing hurting you some people can't afford a 3k plan ticket to Germany for safari zone but don't wanna lose out on the increased spawns if niantic made it better there wouldn't be spoofing make an in game event that you buy in game shop and it u unlocks spawns everywhere not just one specific lovation catering to the rich or well off
It’s not lame beats spending money on gas when you live in the middle of no where and the city is 40min away .on top of that you gotta spend money to do raids , if you wanna do more than one . Second spoofing actually helps some people when there’s not enough players to take down a raid . For example the event taking place in the Azores (don’t know how to spell it) , spoofers are actually helping the locals because their accounts are weak ,why? Because they live on an island with like 5 gyms
I am also conflicted about the multiple accounts. Like now. I am stuck in a rural gym about 75 km away from my home. I can't get 50 coins and been stuck now for 12 days and I am the only one in that gym ... then It might be nice for a second account to get that pokemon out. Also for raids cause even in the city it is hard to get a squad together so a lot of times we need ppl that has multiple accounts. I don't want another account but the way the game is now I am acctually more and more thinking of it cause I play solo 99,9% of the time and in rural areas. But when we talk about spoofers... NO! To spoof is not okey in my mind. It creates a lot of drama in raidgroups when I say that but I feel if ppl struggle in bad weather and do the game right and struggle in the winter, snow, rain whatever and fight the gyms and put pokemon in and to then get knocked out by a player that is bigger and stronger cause he/she sits by the computor all day instead of moving their flappy ass around.
Nina Nicklasson totally agree with you. I used to live in a rural area and couldn't get my coins every day, so I created a baby account just for knocking out my Pokemons. I don't think it's kind of cheating, you just helping yourself. So let's get it. Just create this account and do not worry about anything.
Nina Nicklasson disagree with using two accounts to consistently boost each other 50 coins. That's definitely disgusting and gives an unfair advantage.
jdzumwalt3 hun, I get stuck in gyms for weeks. most of the time I am the only one int the gym. so how is that unfair? I was truck for three months once and couldn't do anything. bot get a single coin. Noone else was playing
So U r moving ur flappy ass around daily...Can i Have a video of it
There is not even a single pokestop around 20 km for me..what should I do then..Spoof...How it will be unfair then when there are no stops/gyms/spawns...JUSTIFY THIS MISS FLAPPY ASSHOLE
Awesome interview thank you for all the super dope content TrainerTips & BT!! I like that bulbasaur in the bg haha
Great video! And the description format below the video was great, definitely keep doing it. I like seeing a short blurb about the video I’m watchng
I need Brandon Tan to play on my account to get me to level 40😂
Ghost Trainer Cobo Jones me too
He does that for cash
Why would you need a help from cheater? Visit your local spoofer/multi-account community if you can't make it legit just like Brandon did.
MrKeikari multi accounters community? You're a clown.
+Silva Cheaters team up too when they can't make it alone even when cheating.
The argument Nick makes against spoofing is... making me wonder something : cars. "PokemonGo was made so that we could go out, and spoofers don't. Plus, they can negate other players' work by not having to do as much."
But, well, so do people who drive. PokemonGo was created to make us walk around and see landmarks as we play, not to farm raids and secure all the gyms away from walking players. They don't play as it was intended and don't do as much efforts as "legit players", so the reasoning is similar.
Maybe I see this as "as bad as spoofing" because, here, most spoofers I know of actually don't act like assholes about gym control and are a great help for distant raids that don't always get enough players to be completed. When half of our high level player base is people in their cars, acting selfish and ruining the experience for low level players, isolated players and such. And only making up for it when those are on their way aiming for the same PvE objective.
People were strongly against spoofers for a time here. Then, well... it died out. Spoofers who act selfish usually see private lobbies when trying to raid. And since we're not a very competitive community (especially since some of the aforementioned assholes in their cars stopped playing, liberating a huge play area that was "red-controlled" for no other reason than... well, that, which profited only those "around-15" players in the whole town...), they don't stalk all gyms in town preventing legit players to have a shot.
I've always played legit, and spoofers made my life worse around 50x less often than I could count for people in cars. So why the double-standard? (And, apparently, spoofing requires patience I guess? Heard it was already pretty janky even before Niantic launched the current wave of anti-spoofing measures or something. It may still be less costly than a car ride (I would guess), but it's not like a car ride wasn't *ALSO* a waaaay easier way of playing compared to walking.)
EDIT : As I watch the rest of the video, I see the argument of "social interaction" being brought up a lot. And, once again, it checks out. People in cars tend to stay in it. Waiting for a vague sign about a raid starting, or simply destroying a gym a legit player just obtained because they finished their loop around the district from the remote and private place of their car interior. While I have one or two spoofers in my contacts that can get a coffee break at work to save a raid (like you'd do with the multi-account), I can rarely count on any people in their cars away from their loop because, well, if there are no parking spots less than 50 meters away from you, you can go die in a fire, they won't help.
And I use "legit player" loosely here talking only about "walking players" simply to show how easy it is to make the same argument about people in cars not being "legit". I mean, Niantic can't ban them as easily as spoofers because, from their perspective, going too fast can be as much "being in a vehicle" than "forgetting PokemonGo while being in a vehicle", or "having your GPS lagging". But there are securities to prevent gameplay while moving faster than by foot. It shows that it's not accepted by Niantic, it's not condoned. It's just impossible for them to assess it fairly.
Really you could use your comparison to any form of transportation. Bike, Long Board, Roller Skates anything with wheels really to move faster than any walking person. Would that also not make them "Legit" players?
Weird community you got there. Whenever I drive to a raid, I ALWAYS get out of my car and go to the group of people or start the circle. And during community days, I go around on rollerblades to catch stuff (and I still end up losing the shiny contest to people that walk lol) It’s still a lot of fun though! That said, I don’t like it when people stay in their cars for raids either. It discourages socialization which is essential for a game like this to stay running (like spoofing does).
Every community is different. I truly have reasons to dislike mine, but I heard others in bigger cities in my country were even less friendly.^^
As for cars (and "any other form of transportation", to respond to Micah Willett ; sorry, didn't see the notification apparently), I wasn't saying I'm personally against it, as I would clearly be an hypocrite (when I don't have time to play for the whole day, I get a few pokemons in the bus on the way to school/work and back home). I was just arguing that, *according to Nick's arguments*, cars check out as much as spoofing in the way of "not respecting community guidelines" and "creating gaps of power in the community".
But, as much as spoofing, I think it depends more on the person (a open car driver = a talkative and serviceable spoofer) than on the support itself (an asshole will stay an asshole, spoofing or driving giving them a roughly similar advantage). Hence why I dislike my community (we have a loooot of prideful pricks).^^
Tho, now that I think about roller skates, etc... I wonder if it also is in the same category. Since the game allows 12 km/h I think (around 7.5 mph, is that correct? old information from nebulous source), which is way more than you can achieve by walking, but is perfect for a jog or a casual skating trip. But then again, I was simply debating the criterias of Nick, not trying to set a standard.^^ For all I know, that speed limit is like the GPS for cars not earning you a ban : they can't prove you didn't simply ran 100 meters and deny you the right to play and putting the bar THAT high is simply a fail-safe, but maybe they actually wish they could make aaaaaall of use go snail-pace for some reason.^^
kangourouuu1 Atleast he gets out of his house he has also formed a local community
Loved this video! Motivated me to go out tonight and hit the grind spot.
Please more videos like this : ) Keep up the great work Nick!
Pretty sure @spieletrend pretty much fullfils the requirements of being a level 40 player never breaking the TOS. #schilling #austrianguy
This didn’t age well…loooool! 😂🤣
Yo, Nick! I completely agree with your views regarding spoofers and people who use multiple accounts but it makes me sad to see that Brandon thinks it's alright to use 6 accounts to take down a gym. Any person who uses more than 1 account to take down a gym is already having an unfair advantage to someone who plays the game following Niantic's rules. =(
Thank you Nick and Brandon. :) this stuff is golden ❤️
I really liked this video. I enjoy when you take time to do some longer videos.
Nick is a mad lad with them stop signs lmaooo
TORILLE!!!!!
I ALWAYS read the description so thank you.
If many thought the way tan dose, all gaming community would be better. Ty both for your time. I enjoy your vids nick. And I've learned a lot from you and tan.