Special Forces Sniper Explains the Evolution of the Bi-Pod | Techniques | Tactical Rifleman
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2017
- I know you viewers love exciting videos; me too. However, here at Tactical Rifleman, our goal is to give you the information to make you a better shooter or well-rounded operator. Remember, knowledge is power.
So, this week we are going to talk about Bipods. While that might sound as exciting as watching grass grow; having a good bipod assists the shooter in having a stable position for making that 1,400 meter shot, which is very exciting.
I personally know Kasey, from B&T, and helped him field test some of these first versions of the Atlas back in Iraq. He is a personal friend and a great American. If you look very closely at 1:53 in the video, you’ll see a dab of pink paint on the back of the bipod head, that I can’t get off. Kasey always marked versions he sent me with pink paint. Yes, there is a story behind that. Thanks Kasey.
Every year, a dozen companies come out with new bipods. Most are ok, some are good. However, few continue to improve based on customer suggestions. The Atlas from B&T is one that does. Their current version of the Atlas is awesome, and I understand why it was chosen for the PSR Contract. The 5H has a bright future also.
On a side note, beware of Chinese copies of the Atlas. The Chinese have always flooded the market with copies of everything. However, some of their Atlas copies are downright dangerous junk. I know of a SEAL unit that ordered real Atlas Bipods, only to have their logistics gal purchase cheap Chinese knock offs to save a little profit. Good intent, but they fell apart in minutes. Imagine having your bipod collapse right when you are squeezing the trigger during a hostage rescue. There’s a reason why we pay a little more for “Mil Spec” gear. It has got to work every time, under every condition. This year at SHOT, they busted a couple of Chinese civilians pedaling fake Atlas bipods again. I hope they crush their nuts and bolts.
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"....and you lose all your cool points" I loved that line!
99.9 % of being spec ops is looking cool.
That line got him a sub and a like lol.
I remember when we used a camera tripod long before they made specialized ones and of course our rucks. I have three close relatives who were S/F 1 from the 3rd group 1 from the 5th group and one from the 10th group, nothing but the greatest respect for y'all.
It's refreshing to have non BS.. non "tacticool".. non "I took a carbine class one time so now I'm an expert".. guy on RUclips providing excellent content. Thank you Karl!
That's a pretty specific judgement
Thank you so much for this. This was the perfect description I was looking for!
Great review. Thanks
Great info. Thanks.
Good Video! using the 5H on my Sako TRG M10 in .338, works perfectly
Very good presentation. I learned a number of important differences.
Thank you for the great info , so many talk about bipeds but forget so much , fantastic thanks again
Thanks for watching
Outstanding video
Great video Sir.
Straight to the point without all the extra BS refreshing.
Thank you; well done.
Great work!
Thanks for watching, TR
Thanks!
Interesting how cost always comes in replies with the 5H. If your job is protecting personnel, you get the right item. It’s silly to discuss $300 difference on a $3-8K weapon system. The bipod is a minimal cost, comparatively, and not a place to skimp on such a mission-critical instrument. Thanks for a very clear and to-the-point video on these bipods. Great job.
🤙facts !
For a civilian hobbyist it obviously matters. When you're printing fake $$$$ to execute half assed wars all over the 3rd world, not so much.
@@Valorius Way outside the scope of this topic to cover all the considerations of that point of view, pro and con. Let’s just agree that, to the operator tasked with utilizing the weapon system, it matters!
@@Valorius what are you on you but job?
@@experimentalfirearms3273 That sentence makes no sense. Hit your edit button and try again.
still running the old Harris. lol. thanks for sharing this was very informative!!!
I recently purchased a 5-H for a 338 LM couldn't be more happier and the best bipod going for larger calibers.
Great video and great bipods..thanks
Thanks for watching, TR
I love my Atlas Bipods!!
love this guy, he reminds me of a young christopher walken
Excellent video. I'd rather have "dull" and "knowledge based" videos any time. This way when the time for excitement comes in real life...I'm ready.
fjamato Yup, information dense without the fluff and filler.
Very good, Thank you very much
Digging that 5H
around 450.00
I have an Atlas bipod and CTK monopod on my 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle. With them, off a shooting mat I can shoot every bit as good as I can off my bench rest gear. With 140 gr. Hornady ELD-M ammo I can consistently get 1/2" at 100 yards using a Bushnell ERS 3.5 - 21 x 50 scope W/ H59 reticle. In PRS competition the H59 reticle is a Godsend B/C I do not have to run my turrets and sometimes forget to re-zero after a course of fire.
Start with this fact: There are three elements to a steady position: Natural Point of Aim, Muscular Relaxation, and Bone/Artificial Support. The bipod is lousy artificial support, since it diminishes recognition of muscular relaxation and thus an understanding for NPA. In addition, the bipod precludes proper position building whereby the stock is brought to the head to set stock in shoulder for a position that aligns the eye to sight from a good stock weld. Instead the bipod forces the head be brought to stock where bipod height determines height of position, which is generally too low. This means consistent sight alignment becomes difficult. Better to learn prone with loop sling support, then use bipod when there are no better options. The presentation here on bipod features should have related more to those features helping or hindering the position ideals of NPA, Muscular Relaxation, and more support than bone alone. That sort of instruction would be more in compliance with your mission statement. Creds: NRA Long Range High Master, US Distinguished Rifleman, CMP-USAMU certified MRI coaching SDM/TTT/SAFS.
Chuck, while you regurgitate decent terms and concepts required for accurate shooting; you are 100 percent wrong bashing bipods. Modern adjustable bipods allow the modern marksman to modify the front height of the rifle to perfectly match the required height for perfect Natural Point of Aim. The issue isn't the modern bipod; rather, the issue is that most shooters are either uneducated about the importance of natural point of aim or are just too lazy to adjust the micro-adjustable bipods to match the height required for perfect sign alignment. THanks for watching, TR
thanks
Thanks mate. Interesting to see the evolution of the Atlas. You're on a winner with a company, that takes feedback and adjusts accordingly, in a positive manner.
I have an Atlas bipod (new version) and it's great, however extending/shortening the feet is a pain in the neck and I wish I'd gone with a Harris for that reason alone.
Magpul ,.great budget option..
I am a fan of B&T Atlas bipods, I have tried many and always grab an atlas when loading kit. Good info on there evolution and what prompted the changes,
This is like a sales pitch for atlas bipods
I just bought an atlas. But one thing I miss about the Harris bipod That I was issued is the speed of deployment. We used to tie a piece of paracord from one leg of the Harris to the other so if you pull one leg down the other follows. You need to individually press the buttons to deploy the atlas
Yep, I remember doing that “back in the day,” but other than that one feature, I still love the advantages of the Atlas over the Harris. Thanks for watching, TR
@@TacticalRifleman good to go I’m eager to try out this atlas psr
God dam you guys are so lucky in my day you were stuck with what you got . I soud so old but I would of killed for that kit .o what a minute I did but I don't regret a minute of it
Why not just fast forward to a tri-pod? Thanks for helping educate the shooting community!
next gen is made in germany, 12o'clock mount, centers the rifle by gravity, it basically hangs in the bipod. check "fortmeier"
One of the best bipods on the market and affordable too
Are you going to talk specifically about the 5-H designed for long range work?
Make a video on the bipod knife
Id love to get a 5h soon. Great product...its gotta wait sadly...covid shutdowns kill my shooting budget....but as soon as im back on track theres definately one in my future for my k31...ive got a k31 with a roached stock that ill be modernising and i think the atlas 5h would be a perfect fit.
Solid plan
@@TacticalRifleman One thing I have always done in the field, since I have a limited budget and i'm not using it in a military role, is to mount my QD harris so that the legs fold toward the magwell. Then, when I get into position (either on the firing line at a range or in a hunting blind or tree stand), is detach the bipod with the QD, rotate it so that the legs fold to the front, then reattach it so that I can put a load on it without it closing.
It's a really good workaround as long as you've got the 10 seconds required to flip it 180 degrees.
Thanks for the great video.
Looking at the video and the 5H tilt, to me it looks like your rifle will tilt as well?
Pink mist
We had leftover Vietnam Era clothespins
Those sucked
@@TacticalRifleman Yes they did. We made them work though, because there was no other choice.
But can they be attached to your knife?
Yes, Colonel 100 in bf3 unlocked it :)
Yes knife have capabilities of long range so it can be mounted bipod
Help!!! I've attached a bipod to my knife and when I hunker down and get ready, I haven't been able to hit ANYTHING more than two feet away.
Can someone please tell me how to resolve this problem?
@@LotsOfBologna2 of course, all I need is your social security number and a small fee of 27.59 🤣
I think it's atlas that now makes the bi pod for the mlok system that's 2 separate legs that attach to each side of your handgaurd
no its UTG
I seem to be hearing that Atlas is the best and Harris was okay but not now. Sometimes I think the military adopting a new piece of equipment depends on whose pockets are lined and how much lining was put into those pockets. It happens all the time and I believe I am hearing another instance of pocket lining here. Thanks for the sales spiel?
Actually... No. I agree 100% with your bitch of "pocket lining" and I've actually seen it happen in the bipod world with many copies of the Atlas. Lots on law suits going on. Harris are still okay, but they haven't updated anything in decades. Atlas aren't perfect, and that's why they still offer different options, because perfect for me may be different for you. Even the MagPul bipods are decent. To each his own; but understand you CAN"T buy my opinion. If I like something, I'm not afraid to put my name behind it. Thanks for watching, TR
Like the non rotating legs. I hate when mine rolls under heavy loading...
True Dat
Great video not knocking your knowledge brother im sure youre a bad ass, but i have cheap caldwell bipods on all my rifles and honestly for a cheap product its worked great
That’s cool. However, for the military, they need MilSpec, -60 degrees to +140 degrees and austere environments, like saltwater and desert dust. Thanks for watching, TR
myself...I picked up a Caldwell in the pawnshop for 18dollars..works beautifully
What’s the name of that beige one, bipod. From mario
THanks, so i guess my next question will be is there an over barrel Bipod in the works?
Nope
The best one misses.
I mean the "hanging"- bipod of the DSG-1.
Fortmeier?
Did he say "guns"? Very pretty hair................................... Good Video. Very informative.
What about two-part bipods - separate legs, one on each side?
Sweet, definitely opened me up to anything other than Harris.
QUESTION:
WHICH SPECIFIC MODEL DID SOCOM SPEC OUT FOR THIER PSR?
Actually, since we filmed this video, SOCOM had withdrawn the contract. Pending Big Army maybe jumping on board. I'll have to go back and check to see which rifle actually won the revised contract. As for the bipod, same deal... some units wanted one that panned. Others did not. So, B&T now offers both models. TR
Tactical Rifleman
Yes Sir, I definitely be interested in knowing which rifle they're going with. I'm shopping for a 338 Lapua currently, and that would be worth waiting to see.
Thank you for the reply.
Should have called it the modern evolution of bi pods I thought you would go all the way back to the crossed shooting sticks
is that a FN BALLISTA in a SC chassis or McMillan
It is my Accuracy International AXMC.
Doesn’t the width make it even tougher for snagging on everything
Yes, but aids in stability.Thanks for watching. Strength & Honor, TR.
What is the name of your .338? Thanks for the video
It is an AXMC, made by AI
I know Atlas is probably the best option, but is that new Magpul bipod viable option for .308 precision rifle (Tikka T3 Varmint with MDT ESS chassis)?
There is significant price difference after all :)
You get what you pay for. Kasey wants to get the price down, but machine work is machine work. It costs money. I have no experience with the new MagPul. Give it a try and let me know what you think. However, for real work, I'm willing to invest in the best kit available. That doesn't always mean most expensive. Thanks for watching, TR
@Tactical Rifleman Currently I have Harris on it, but I don't like the height adjustment on it. It's the one that that locks completely out, but height between is by tension screw. I have Atlas copy on my .22, which has flaws that don't exist in the real one, but otherwise I like it more than Harris. Hmm. maybe I just have to get the real one for this one. Here in Finland PSR is 425€ and the regular QD is 355€ :D
PS. Thanks for the stickers!
how wide is the h5 when folded ie room between the legs
Alex Applebee I don’t know why are you asking me
He looks familiar was he in the movie A few years 🤔🤔
Nope
Could you make a vid on making a ghillie suit, plz.
I'll add it to our video idea list.Thanks for watching. TR.
Tactical Rifleman ty. Love the channel. Ordered a shirt today also. Semper Fi from an old marine.
Thanks for the support and thank you for your service. Strength and Honor, TR
Can you make a video on how to zero in yours optic and iron sights ? Could really use some real knowledge in this area
I will add it to the list for future videos. Thanks for watching. TR
RUFFRYDERZ695 In the meantime, search for YT user Tibodaurusrex (I think that's right). He has a very good series on long range precision shooting including zeroing approaches and methods.
TheGaming NorseMan - You don't set your irons?
TheGaming NorseMan you can set you irons for windage in the rear on most and on ar 15s the f sight can be raised or lowered with the tip of a round.
if you don't understand how to zero any form of sighting tool, just do 10 minutes of research and get on with your life.
Who makes the bipod that's in the thumbnail?
B&T
Is the V8 the one with legs that would "walk" forward?
Yes
Yes the V8 legs rotate, I've shot a ton off one and have to try to get the legs to roll! But so many folks including USASOC asked for non-rotating legs so we incorporated that in the PSR model. (The Atlas PSR bipod was selected for the USASOC Precision Sniper Rifle, PSR package, thus the name). We still sell the V8.
B&T Ind. LLC I'm going to get o e on the first the new one that's great American ingenuity . keep up the good work . or do you think a different model would best accommodate a AR10 SASS rifle . it's heavy
Could I modify this Bipod to be an over barrel bipod?
No. It would obscure your scope
if Carl is taking 300 blk out to a gun fight so iam ...nuff said!!!!
Is there a way to mount these bipods to a stud instead of rails?
You can 1) remove the stud and replace with a rail section, or 2) use a stud-to-rail adapter. Not too expensive, available from LaRue, Badger, LMT, DD, Midway, others. I prefer option 2. Most bipods provide a sling mount provision since you used the stud for the rail section. Some rifle stocks have two forward studs to accommodate.
All of the stud to rail type mounts I've seen are hinky. one you are required to take the barreled action out of the stock. So if your going to remove the action from the stock, why not put a rail on? Another will pin on to the sling stud which the gets squeezed against the stock.....No Joy, stud can pull out, mar the stock, etc. If you have two sling studs we probably have a rail with a hole pattern to fit. And in some cases you can use the sling stud as a fastener on one end of the rail. Go to a rail, you won't be sorry!
B&T Ind. LLC For my purposes (range fun and the occasional hunt), the adapter was sufficient but you are absolutely right, coverting over to a rail is the most sound and reliable option. Especially for a weapon that will see daily hard use. My particular weapon is a Savage .308 (FNPC-something I always forget their model names, it's a short action bull barrel with accutrigger) with McMillan A5, heavy fill stock. Scoped with an SWFA 10x, zero'd at 200yd, it's fast on the target and effectively flat out to 500yd, well beyond anything with legs that I'm going to shoot. Honestly I'm bored with the rifle and should probably to get into a .308 semi-auto.
Evolution of the bipod ... ... to $500 ... ... but good video.
Its beat into our heads from day one not to cant your rifle... So lets build it into our bipod and call it tilt...
It is for unlevel ground… to level the gun
i'm new to range shooting and bought a used Atlas BT10 V8 bipod and placed it on my Remington .223 and took it to the range .It only took me 3 min. to figure out the legs spun and the rifle would not sit still..
Doesn't B&T have a R&D department and if they do they should fire everyone and employ the services of the US military. I'm sure the military would have figured out that problem faster than I did.
The V8 is a rip off !
Sounds like you bought a used FAKE bipod. Atlas bipods gave ZERO issues because they DO have great quality control and R&D. The Chinese have been selling cheap airsoft quality copies of Atlas bipods for decades. You got took. Sorry buddy.
Thanks for watching, TR
@@TacticalRifleman sorry pal you are wrong. The BC10 V8 are notorious for this leg turning problem and you would know that if you did some research.
I have sent pics of the bipod to B&C and they said they would upgrade it to the BC46 but the cost to me would be 50% more.
The problem is now fixed but could have been easily fixed if the bipod was given to the military to review before it went on the market.
The faked are very easy to spot by the way.as they don't have the same markings.
For the price the bipod should have been almost perfect. The knocks offs from what I gather are about 20% the price as what Atlas bipod cost so easy to spot. I paid almost full retail price.
I stand corrected, and misread your original post, thinking you meant that the whole head rotated, as I personally saw a fake do that.
As for testing, Kasey (inventor and owner) is a personal friend of mine who I met as SHOT before he invented the Atlas. I would send me prototypes of the first ATLAS bipods to me while I was serving as a CIF sniper in Iraq. We made many improvements from there to production. I didn't have an issue with the turning legs on my SR-25 in an urban area, because we didn't "Load the Bipod" to the point where they would roll. Fast forward, to longer -range shooting years later and the craze was to load your bipod to the point where it would almost jump forward. When we reached that point, we (the military) SEALs and SF guys let Kasey know and he immediately offered and option for non-turning legs. There were other improvements and will continue to be improvements as Kasey gets feedback from SOF guys overseas.
Sorry, you just got the wrong model. I have 6... three rotate. Some are longer. Some have different mounts and feet. All are better than a Harris.
Thanks for watching, TR.
@@TacticalRifleman : this rotating business is no good for commercial uses and even today I purchased the HawkHill Talons for my Harris bipod which has now solved it's problem for $75.00 cdn.
Next I have ordered the Atlas cleat feet they call them and I will give that a try. I did contact the company to return my Atlas bipod and move up a model but all in all it cost to much so I may purchase similar spike feet as I did for my Harris.
When does the spending end ?
ps: you military guys never used the Atlas bipod on a bench or concrete surface ?
KC can you make a version to shut my ex wife up?
Good video but it feels like an infomercial for these bipods rather than an educational video about the evolution of the bipod, as the title of the video indicates.. Do you guys sell these?
I thougt the same. They talked about just one brand of bipods while there are more brands. But it was still informative like all their other videos
Short answer: No. Long Answer: No, we are not affiliated with B&T Industries and receive no compensation for endorsement. I have been asked a number of times what Bipod I run. I have also heard people say that they did not like the Atlas when they first came out. I did not want people thinking I was running a piece of kit just because it is the “sexy” new thing on Call of Duty. Rather, I want people to understand that I put thought into why I run the gear I do, and want others to be able to make educated decisions based of my successes and mistakes. Kasey is a personal friend of mine. However, that is not why I run an Atlas Bipod. I run an Atlas because it succeeds all my requirements as a military sniper and civilian marksman. Thanks for watching, and keep the comments coming. Strength and Honor, TR.
Funny stuff. I met Karl at SHOT show, he came to our booth because a sniper team had beat his team and the winning team was using our monopod! Karl was deployed when we did the Atlas, he's BAD to give away prototypes (I sent him a prototype monopod his team was requesting and once stateside gave it away because he thought he could get another one!) so the one I sent him was pink. He is like a brother to me, and like all good brothers they correct one another when stepping out of line. We have that relationship. There is no way Karl would show or demonstrate something he did not believe in. To be clear, we paid zero for him to do this, we gave zero to have this done, it was a pleasant surprise. We are very proud to have some very elite customers from all the groups in the SOF community. We are also very proud of the local, state and federal law enforcement agencies that are customers. The Atlas did change the market by introducing the patented 45 degree leg position, which others have copied. There is not another bipod on the market that weighs so little (BT10 is 11 ounces!) that does so much with so many features. So the topic being "evolution of the bipod" IMHO, going from the standard of ALL bipods, the perfectly fine, but limited functionality Harris, to the Atlas demonstrates such a evolution. Sure there's other brands but they brought nothing new to the table till they copied our leg positions, this is not evolution, it is a standard, set by those pushing design limits. I've heard the term, "Trail blazers" and then those that follow the trail once blazed.... Karl, I'd like to send you something, just need to know you want it hot pink or florescent pink?
I make Pink look good.
Oh, hot pink for sure.
And I meant no disrespect, it was more of a failed segway into me asking if they sell them. when I asked if they sell them I wanted to know so I could buy one from them.
Atlas Bipods are good but not 300 - 400 dollars good by no means .. At this price point they become a good old American screwing ..
farmerjoe338 i am not a rich guy but if i want something i will get it. But 3_400 for bipod is retarded on any level. Especially when magpuls are 100.00
Vanguard 1QS
You are correct. 300-400 dollars for a bipod is expensive. Have you actually held one of these though? Compared it to a magpul? Nothing against magpul but there is a reason these are 2, 3, 4 times what a magpul costs.
I just got an atlas bt10, and I can confirm, it feels like a $300+ item.
@@xeoh85 what's so much better about them?
kind of rifle is this?
bugaljuice Accuracy International AX in 338 Lapua Magnum. Big dorras.
no bi pod should cost $400+
Skidz1818 gosh darn right
You're welcome to step up and show everyone how to create & sell at a lower price point :-)
@@allthecommonsense well that was 2 years ago! Ive since purchased several bi pods over $400. We can all change our minds, and thats ok 👍🏿 👌
I will keep my 100 harris...
me want
This just seems like one long commercial 😅
How to build walls in clash of clans
Are these Chinese made?
Nope. Made in Wichita KS
I have two atlas bipods, but this is nothing more than a commercial for atlas. There's nothing about the "Evolution" of bipods. You compared a Harris to an Atlas. Whoopidy doo da
If they were reasonably priced there wouldn't be the motivation for knockoffs. Blame Karma.
Given it's already telescopic, you would think you could panic press either leg's retracting handle and use it as a telescopic baton for CQB and hunting predator ambush. In addition - a multi-arm, spring-loaded dual bayonet for impaling combatants and bears. It's not tactical enough for me!
long ass ad
cool stuff but at $200+ for a simple tool is outrageous unless this is made of titanium and gold plated and covered in bullet proof paint i dont see $200+ for a bi-pod regardless the " what it does " im not broke but im not stupid enough to buy something that high priced to break the wallet either rather buy 1k rounds or a new barrel or hell a scope from Vortex over spending $200+ on a bipod lol just because i says " made in america " dont mean its worth more
It's about the equipment you want and the quality you want. If you're a combat sniper, you would happily pay that much. If you're joe blow, it isn't needed. It costs money to have nicer stuff. Of course, equipment doesn't make the fighter, but it helps you gain an advantage if your enemy is equally skilled.
great commercial . you must be on his pay roll
Roy, he is not on our pay-roll, please take the time to read the comment above.
We do not advertise all of the groups that buy from us, but we are well represented.
Fact, the Atlas was chosen from several bipods, to be included in the USASOC Precision Sniper Rifle package PSR). Whats funny is the final signer of that contract, actually came by at SHOT and congratulated us on our ability to make the changes that led to the Atlas PSR model. It was our will and desire to build the best was can for the people that give all for this nation. That type of drive or commitment is not for sale but is why we did those changes and had samples sent in under 8 weeks. Maybe that is why Karl likes our gear. It does as advertised and is built by Americans that care.
Is this cigma male chael sonnen?
lol
A true sf dosen't call it a gun
Gun
lol, gun is the old word for tool of war from old Scandinavian, so my guess is this one sf sniper is old, very old.
Wonder who paid for that video? Every other word was Atlas.
Paid for by nobody. Not a dime. I am just a fan of the Atlas Bipod. Their new CAL Bipod is even better. MagPul also has a great new bipod out. However, I'm still running Atlas.
this wasn't the evolution, just an advertising video!
blah blah NO LINK TO ANYTHING but rather leave a long ass rant in the description smh
Airsoft and air rifles have better bipods