It's the same thing they did with pray they even bitched at the marketing department for marketing it the way they did because it failed horribly I thought it was decent it actually didn't have a lot of woke bullshit in it like they marketed it as the only thing that I'm pissed about was the fact that they misrepresented my native American tribe for as long as I can remember for as long as we've had stories that have been passed down through generation to generation we've had female Comanche warriors it's just like with Nordic culture most of them stay behind to protect the children and those who couldn't fight like the elderly or cripple they were essentially The shield maidens of native American culture
Conspiracy theory. What if all the shit programming was a ploy to destroy streaming services by making them become insulting social causes propaganda so we now tune in to watch old programs on tv once again, lol
Those of us in the middle are tired of being hijacked and vilified by a group of BULLIES. As an actual 90s kid (born in 1983, not a "90s kid" who was born in 1999), I grew up with lots of diversity in school, in the neighborhood, in the TV shows, in the movies, and in the books I read. I was WAY better off before these bullies decided to "fix" a problem that hadn't existed since before I was born.
I'm your age, and grew up with TGIF. As a pasty white boy, Family Matters, with an all black cast, was my favorite show for the years it was on. Most people don't care about the racial diversity or lack thereof, as long as the story is good.
The "middle" is a lie. The middle is just the center of the largest majority. The center of the largest majority in the US is actually closer to the left than to the center. There is no right wing party in America. Libertarians aren't even represented by their party.
Ditto, I'm not black but Geordie Laforge made me want to be an engineer when I grew up. This woke nonsense is doing nothing but building 'race consciousness' so fast that it would make the national socialists blush.
@@MrlspPrt While they weren't hiding it. One of their biggest lies, particularly on the left, was that they were the center and they weren't leaning anywhere or being extremist in any way.
Remember when everyone watched Seinfeld, Cosby show, fresh prince of bel-aire, full house, Martin, in living color and we’d all laugh and talk about them and no one cared about the race? The 90’s remembers
@@spaceknight793 Yup, the 80’s and 90’s was very diverse. I was only 3.5 years old in 70’s so don’t remember much. Me and my high school friends and college friends are like where did all this racism come from? Went to school and friends with all kinds. Kids dated across racial lines and we didn’tt care.
I blame a decline in the quality of comedy, music and films (or culture) in general. Before, there was a sort of filter, or structure, true, not everyone benefited but for things to succeed, there had to be quality. Nowadays, the same structure has gone and people don't pursue quality: music can be manufactured with the right people, comedy is basically something that ALL people think they can do (seriously in the UK, some MD/GP's think they are comedians doing stand up when they should be treating patients) since "jokes" are just real life talks and films...well, even if they flop, they don't seem to care until Maverick recently it seems.
Me as a conservative it baffles me how many on the left look at me in disgust, not all but a lot! I have friends on both sides and in the middle and it's the ones on the left that take my criticism of modern geek culture as hatred, racism and bigotry. I'm happy that a shift in the culture is happening.
Feedback is just healthy to any creative media. For yeah saying something sucks is useless but so is saying this is good. For these who are willing to give in depth with their feed back. Can be worth their weight in gold. For letting you know your strengths and weaknesses. For this whole idea of only give positive feed back. Just leads to someone not knowing where they need to improve. Which can have negative results in the end, by having the writer fail to understand what truly work and what didn't with their story. Leading to them creating less desirable works, rather than slowly improving over time.
Implying that all media outlets don't lie? The only reason why people give CNN more scrutiny than others is because Trump was pissed off that Jeff Zucker, whom he'd had an amicable relationship with in the past, refused to give him favorable coverage. They really aren't any harder on him than MSNBC (I'd actually argue that they're harsher toward him), he just felt betrayed and turned his base onto them which lead to increased scrutiny when they did lie about news stories, even though all news networks do it. Calling CNN "too left-wing" is a joke anyway; they're total establishment shills, just like all the other networks.
Not true. They like being lied to if it makes them feel good. Look at all the Eco stuff. Most of the initiatives do nothing to save the environment, some are even worse for the environment but people happily go along with it because of the feels.
Going "centrist" is NOT the solution. Going TRUTHFUL is the solution. It's the NEWS. I shouldn't know what candidate that they support, at all. I don't need the commentary. I want just the facts. Call it boring, but it would be informative and watchable.
I miss real newscasts. The kind that isn't filled with opinion pieces. Right now, if an actual news story happens, I find out more from RUclipsrs then supposed news channels.
The news has never been truthful. The news reports on what it wants. We see skewed reporting all the time on TMZ, CBR, MSN, Huffpost, etc. The news seemed to be more "truthful" during the Evening News with Walter Cronkite, because he didn't add his own agenda messaging. We also believed that Walter Cronkite was telling it like it was.
Honestly I take CNN as seriously as Fox News now. In fact if anything fox has improved whilst CNN has gone downhill big time. The view is so racist I won’t even watch it. I’d rather have a beer and a barbecue with my Asian neighbors.
Us forgotten Gen-X/Gen-X-adjacent (millennials who are so old we were raised like Gen-X) were raised properly on true diversity, not today's 'diversity'. We grew up with diverse shows in diverse classrooms with lessons on accepting people as who they are, not what they are. To be suddenly slapped in the face as adults with this 'new' diversity push where you're FORCED to see WHAT people are instead of WHO they are is confusing and harmful. I'm sorry. I'm not going to treat you based on WHAT you are. I'm going to continue to follow what my upbringing in the 80s and early 90s taught me during my formative years. Your character matters more.
People like Geeky that say the problem is on both sides just irks me. I’ve been a democrat my entire life, the problems today are almost entirely coming from the left. And because of those problems I’ll never vote for a democrat ever again.
I've seen issues on both sides. I recall the days when people on the other end believed Obama was a literal Antichrist, including some of my own relatives. They essentially behaved towards him how modern leftists do towards Trump. Overall the issue of extremism seems to switch back and forth between the two.
They aren't 'centrist.' They are slightly less far left, and only pretending at that. Let it end the way it deserves for the untold damage they wrought.
@@jazziered142 Due to the biased, slanted, and quite frankly biggutted way they have treated middle Americans, white people (especially the white working class) on rayss issues, anybody who dislikes open boarders and glow bull issum, anybody who dislikes encroachment upon Constitutional liberties, men who dislike mizandry, anybody who dislikes black privvy uh ledge, and anybody who dislikes the detthgrip that that certain tribe from the middle east has on America: they deserve to be put up against walls, and / or swing from lampposts.
@@somethingclever8916 How do you come to that conclusion? CNN deserves to be judged and dismissed as they've proved years of reasons to do just that. If you just say "all conservatives are bigots, there isn't evidence of that. This seems like a really, really weak comparison you're trying to make.
Is it fair to keep saying "both sides" when almost every issue has multiple points of view? It's a problem that they have no diversity of thought on the issues; they only present everything from the same two perspectives.
There is no "both sides", there are a dozen sides, some of which are in agreement, others in absolute conflict. We group it up into two groups, because that makes it easier to map to the major political parties.
I’m never going back to CNN. They have damaged my trust in them so much that it cannot be repaired, even if I was deranged enough to give them the opportunity.
I think there is a path to regaining the audience's trust, but it would take about 2 years to do it. The network would have to make a commitment to being a watchdog for the people's interest instead of corporate/business interests. If they would make that pivot, they would become the #1 news network and no one else would be close.
Short of them literally admitting to being a propaganda arm of the DNC and list all of their blatant lies and admit they helped meddle in elections and makes reparations to the lives harmed by the distribution of their propaganda I don't see me going back. Forgiveness requires an admission of guilt from them.
@@jaymethysell5111 consider they get infiltrated and reversed back to what they are now. Then what? Are we going to wait another 2 years all over again? That doesn't sound like a practical solution.
You nailed it again Geeky "I like girl power, but girl power that makes sense" I'm so over it. I'm tired because 'strong female' means something entirely different these days.
This reminds me of when Trump was the hero of the civil rights movement (say what? Don't let the memory hole get you) He was the first to open his golf resorts to everyone saying the only colour that mattered to him was green. Profit did wonders for equality for decades. A good economy has ladders for anyone who wants to climb. And people tend to encourage each other. Woke doesn't do anything for anyone. It breeds resentment and bankruptcy.
@qtsssim you will note I said when the economy is good (and globalism is not in play) there are ladders for everyone. The globalists and the Liberals broke the economy.
@@amacookies89 wrong, look up the history, there were tons of pictures of him with black activists who praised him. He got awards etc. I know that info doesn't fit with the "orange man bad" narrative. But that narrative started with Hillary and didn't exist at all before 2016. Before then he was a favourite of the Left (yes the left, see his interview with Oprah). He was on SNL as a great guy etc. Only when he crossed Hillary (and Jeffery E) did the narrative change. The black activists and everyone on the left who had praised him for decades pretended that never happened. I'm old enough to remember when Biden was known to be a close friend of the KKK and Trump was an anti racist hero. So you can say BS but I was there I saw it with my own eyes. No amount of narrative will change that. Just like I remember when the ACLU stood for free speech and freedom. I was there!
They used to call woke "political correctness." It just mutated when they had enough people placed into power in the right places (educators, human resources, and a few CEO's and a LOT of middle management in these corporations).
@@mikecampos1193 The last recession only accelerated us onto the path we're currently on now. We're also not looking at a recession at the moment. They are so desperate to redefine what the word means to distract people from the fact that we're heading for a depression, possibly The Great Depression 2.0, global famine included.
@@lpsoldin3162 Meanwhile, the people in charge are sending billions to be laundered in a war that has zero benefit for our country. At the same time that their spending has skyrocketed inflation for our grocery bills.
@@paul.9828 It's amazing that your post was Umbra-deleted. They're really getting desperate with their censorship. The war spending is bad enough. I'm more annoyed that anyone cheered for the "Inflation Reduction Act" which claims the aim of addressing the issue of printing more money by printing more money.
I would be genuinely surprised if there's anyone left at CNN who even understands what it would mean to be centrist. They see themselves as being on the _right side of history,_ ideologically. It's a sociopolitical framework that functions as a kind of civic religion. There can be no discourse with we, the heathens. Only proselytization or denunciation... for now.
@@AvengerII totally, there's no compromise and no cooperation. I don't believe that sort of dangerous ideology exists exclusively as a microcosm of the political left, but certainly in the era we're living through now, their influence and pernicious effect on our culture is undeniable imo.
Someone needs to sit the executives down and explain that to them. I think it's more of a pride issue because it's not like people haven't been saying this for years.
@@terrathunderstorms3701 yep. Just one, ONE conservative in the room when they were planning CNN+ could have pointed out how it would be TOTAL failure. They sat in their echo chamber thinking we'd buy their CNN+ shit.
Lol makes no difference to me, I'll never trust corporate anything, ever. Corporations will NEVER care about the little guy, you're just something to bleed money from.
When people are hired for not being straight, White, and male, you will get (on average) lower performance than if you hire by merit. Occasionally someone hired for a stupid reason does a great job, but less often than if you hire people with good past performance. Then when if comes time to let go of the people not performing as well, guess who ends up on the chopping block?
I'm fortunate that I have shielded a workplace from getting sued due to the other dishwasher at Dairy Queen had Autism. I hate diversity hires. This was 2018 of my third week of work for the shit hole. The guy just plumb sucked. I have mental issues, but if I suck, i suck. 😐
Democrat myself!!! Totally agree!!! Traditional values family and love is what sells not giving everyone a piece of the pie just because especially when it'll never be enough. Look at Japan they understand straight love and entertainment is what sells. LGBTQ isn't special unique or interesting anymore it's nothing but a joke now.
What about the school board that tried to make it that they have to fire the white teachers first . Think it was in Minnesota but it really happened. Yeah conservatives are the racists.
@@videonut1988 He's a troll account. No content, no liked videos or subscriptions in 4 years. Yep, another phantom bot! They probably have more people like him on RUclips than even Twitter...
Until people hold their OWN side accountable, polarization will continue unabated. Viewers have themselves to blame. If they keep watching what confirms their bias, that's exactly what CNN, FoxNews, etc will continue to produce.
@Rin Wesley Bingo! But at this point it is not about righting the ship but lessening the political left. The company is not in the business of news telling and never has been but pushing bad opinions as fact and profits be damned. Now for the company to survive they must be profitable but at this moment it is hilarious to see the roaches running because the light was turned on. The reputation that they have earned for themselves by being the political left's attack dog will destroy them and it is justified.
@Spaceknight79 that's completely correct. Unfortunately neither will. Until Fox News stops bending over backwards to defend Sunkissed Voldemort and MSNBC with President Geriatrics, CNN will fail with any attempt to be "Centrist" as they'll eventually swing to whichever side of the isle brings the ratings and thus the money.
Us in the west coast are also sick of these political shenanigans. My best friend is a conservative and we've never allowed our political association to damage our friendship. I'm with Geeky, we need the truth and we need to go back to a more civil state.
Extreme political opinions get ratings, because a ranting madman is far more entertaining to watch than a calm, rational, and sane speaker giving a lecture. Until people want reasoned discourse, we'll keep getting extremist political opinions on TV. That's what gets the networks the ratings they want.
They've yet to go center, let's see them do it first. They were never "centrist" even in their best of times 15 - 20 years ago, they were still leaning left.
Geeky rants are short and concrete... quite the equilibrium of fun there. You can taste the anger and frustration in her words and tone, but it's also very palatable that she's enjoy the time.
Mainstream media needs to be Middle of the road for the survival of society. They need to be able to investigate everything and question everything or the system doesn't work.
This points out what I have always maintained is the biggest bias; a bias the New Progressive gleefully engage in and ignore is an issue: regional bias. I've seen more vitriol and poor treatment about people based solely on the region of the US they were born in than I ever have gender, orientation, race etc. If you aren't from a few regions of the US (West Coast, NYC, maybe Chicago and a few others) you're a serf. I've had more hate and slurs thrown at me simply because of my faint accent and where I was born (and this is me being just born in Rural New England I can't imagine how much worse for those in other places).
if your from the south your targetest the most the only group its ok to erotype at all times they treat anyone from the south like a dumb inveed wacis hill billy bible thumper. the only POSTIVE "southern" personaity your even allowed to depict in media is the wannabe cowboy.
Yes. This is really disgusting and shameful behavior. Bigoted, intolerant, know it alls. This behavior gets reinforced and concentrated in a lot of universities and colleges.
Being inner city is detrimental for these news stations. Higher volume of people means higher volume of crazy, increasing the likelihood of hiring crazy. Not to mention it puts them completely out of touch with how the majority of America is.
I agree and appreciate your rant. We fought like hell in the 60’s and 70’s for what we all have now. Makes me sick and tired of the politicalization of every thing and how negative we have become. Some seem to wallow in the negative and want to pull us all in that swamp. Change is coming 🙏🙏
As a news reporter, CNN MUST stay neutral. But as news "analyst", the CNN can be left or right, or even both. But I agree CNN should have talk shows featuring more "conservative opinion" and let the audience chooses which side they want to hear more about. Remember, ratings never lies!
CNN used to have a show called "Crossfire" which was a weekday discussion on current affairs with 2 co-hosts- each with a different political POV. It's a shame one can't have that today in the MSM.
My 60+ year old mom is rewatching Star Trek: TNG, I told her about Discovery & Picard, and despite how much she loves Picard in TNG, she isn't watch either of the new shows after hearing about them & what they are about.
I'm conservative and I watched Star Trek TNG. I didn't consider it overall woke or liberal. In many instances they were conservative themes. So in that case I would consider it a success to both sides. The writers must have walked right down the middle and made both sides happy and have something to point to.
TNG was politically Liberal, but not Progressive. It ran on a foundation of classical liberalism (freedom and self-determination) with a Leftward interpretation that still shared a common basis with Conservative views. In contrast, modern Progressivism actively eschews and condemns any shared basis with Conservative views.
All of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek shows were an attempt to show Americans what a post-capitalist, socialist society could look like. It really is the only example Americans have of such a society. One aspects about DS9 that I thought was very interesting is that it showed us how the Federation had to directly interact and engage with capitalism.
@@jaymethysell5111 apologies for such a long comment to all involved, and mean this in no way to be percieved as condescending or disrespectful in any way. But I must protest to this comment. I don't understand how star trek is a Socialist Utopia. In each series there exists private enterprize, there is private property, and the Federation itself is a representative republic wherein each planet maintains a degree of sovereignty and self determination over its affairs (Something that is not possible in a Socialist state). If it's supposed to be "Socialist", then I'm afraid Gene, a supposed Marxist, didn't understand what the term meant or what Marx was advocating using socialism for. There is no centrally planned economy that is explicitly referenced or shown, and in various instances federation peoples barter with eachother for goods. What is represented via the shows (including TOS), is a post scarce Liberal utopia. Liberalism is Capitalist, but since scarcity has been eliminated via technological advancement, you have a utopia wherein most all wants can readily be fulfilled and people produce things without the need to do so. Socialism is the collective control of the means of production for the good of the whole. Or, in other words, a collective body- such as the state, or the public sector, controlling the economy for its own well being. The state being the overarching public collective in star trek (The Federation). For star trek to be Socialist, the majority of the economy would have to be centralized under the Federation's direct authority. Furthermore, Marxism or Communism, Gene supposedly being an admitted Marxist, dictates the abolition of private property entirely, and a sign of the eventually utopia he prophesies is that the socialist state will give way, as it will no longer be neccesary. The Federation is a state. Star Trek certainly isn't Marxist or Communist as personal belonging and private housing are represented. Picard's wine isn't being seized by the Federation, Kirk has to use women as a currency to barter with miners for Dilithium (lol a hilarious episode, and he would not have to do that in a socialist system as the dilithium would already be property of the federation), and I don't think Sisko's dad's restaraut is property of the Federation either. Sisko's second wife is running her own private shipping firm. The Federation would likely have social programs, and the education and medicine are probably heavily subsidized by the state perhaps being socialized, however that hardly makes the society Socialist. Starfleet is a military organization, and is as such socialized. However Starfleet is just the exploratory and defensive arm of a far greater society. On the star ship Enterprise, the crew are participating in a socialist system, but this is true for the real life crew of the real life enterprise. An enlistee is selling themselves to the state for a period of time, during which the state owns them, their labor, and the product of that labor. But that's not how life works for American civilians, and this is also true of the Federation. If anyone is curious what socialism is like, join the military, you'll be totally socialized while your serving, at least while on duty.
Good point by Geeky, the language labels to divide. I deal with people face to face and form opinions of them based on the interaction. This is another version of feeding our opinions to us, which is why we tuned out long ago.
I live in England and In my local HMV and they had a display featuring box sets of stuff from 80's and 70's. When I got home I had a look on the their website and I was surprised how many old black and white movies they had, some quite obscure ones that I was surprised where even on DVD. That suits me fine I've got a large dvd collection, I've always preferred physical media and it can't be taken off you or edited for "modern audiences".
Same here. Large dvd collection everything from old black and white Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes to latest SF like Moonfall (ok not saying they are all good movies....). I will not have any streaming shows and haven't watched live TV since 2017 and have cancelled my TV licence to rely 100% on dvd. Like you say they can't take them from you or edit them. Two concerns though. Firstly, new movies and shows that I might've bought are not coming to dvd (The Old Guard for example) and I am just waiting for the announcement that no new dvd players to be made. They have already removed dvd players from pcs and laptops. I have a stash of 5 multiregion dvd players brand new still unopened and hope that they plus my two in use players will last out my remaining years. But I will never subscribe to any streaming service and the nearest I come to such is RUclips. I am quite happy to be in the position of never being able to watch She Hulk or such woke minded programming and I sure as hell won't spend money on a dvd release of the show.
I miss the days when most people didn't even know a movie was being made until seeing the advertising just before it hit theaters. It was a surprise. It was fun. It was a special feeling. You could root for the good guys or the bad guys and nobody really cared. Taking sides was part of the whole movie fandom and it was all in good fun. Now as soon as a movie is greenlit we start hearing about it. Sometimes years ahead of the actual release. Who are the actors and what are their politics? Who is the director and are they 'inclusive'? What is the plot and does it include progressive messaging? Does Twitter approve? Are you on the internet approved side of "good" vs "bad". It's just exhausting now. Even if I go into a movie I know I'm going to like I just can't fully enjoy it.
If current trend continue the Amish will be the majority of the US population by 2220 and Mormons will be a huge chunk of the US population in the early 2100's thanks to sky high birth rates, same in Canada and growing like crazy in Latin America as well thanks to sky high birthrates while everyone else has crashing birthrates.
There's not going to be a cultural shift; in my opinion there's going to be a second Civil War, except this time its going to take place all over America and its going to be the right versus the left.
I'm dreading it personally, since it's going to be brutal. We all know they are going to fight back harder than ever. We are all so tired, yet it stills feels like for some reason that the war is only just getting started.....
CNN's brand is so damaged it will take years to get it back, if they ever do. Pre enterprises star trek was pretty based in a lot of areas. Sure there were "left" leaning episodes but there were "right" leaning episode too. Even voyager tackled topics like capital punishment and false rap* accusations in a very intelligent and nuanced way. I can't stand reality TV, if I wanted to watch reality I'd just live my life which is much more interesting then fake low budget "reality" tv.
What you guys said about millennials switching to old TV is true for me. Every night before I go to bed I put on a playlist of old shows I saved on a hard drive with stuff like Late Night With Conan O'Brien, King of the Hill and MXC. Also Geeky's rant was spot on!
One of the easiest ways to bring CNN back to profitability: 1. Add CNN as a free news channel on Amazon Prime and other streaming devices. You can't fast forward through the commercials, so CNN will make money from people watching the commercials. 2. Bring CNN back to their Headnews format, where there were dedicated segments in each 30 minutes for national news, weather, sports, etc.
Geeky, spot on rant. I could not have said it better. And the reality is more people are getting to this point of being pushed to their limit on this crap. I just hope it is enough to start turning things around.
I was going to post something similar. When did 1.5 million = a hit? Carson averaged 60 million viewers. That's such a tiny audience, especially for what they claim is a global audience.
An apple is an apple? So a woman is a woman? I know I’m reaching but that’s how these people will turn it “ No a woman is state of mind.” So…is that apple state of mind? Ahhhhh! The hypocrisy makes my brain hurt
carefull thats the one thing they are terrified to talk about. i dont blam them anyone called "Terfs" by the twatterait get phsyically beaten by mobs every other weak.
Big issue I take on all of this is, the networks waited 10 years too late to change course. With the damage they've done, I may never return to cable television. It doesn't make any sense to me. They knew for sometime that their ratings were awful, and they refused to turn back. They were content to force their programming onto us regardless. And their actions permeated every other form of entertainment!
You raise such a good point about how much content already exists, much of it far superior to what's being made today. With the tens of thousands of movies and TV shows that already exist, Hollywood could vanish tomorrow and I could live the rest of my life watching a new movie or show every day and not come close to scratching the surface of what's out there.
It is a good point. A lot of streaming sites push content that was made only in the last couple years, but if you’re willing to dig even a little there is metric tons of content, of all kinds, to enjoy. I check to see if it was made before 2018 in general, but older is better, with few exceptions.
The wokies screaming how terrible this idea is might just be right. It's been too long, and getting the public trust back is gonna be an uphill battle.
I have my political beliefs but never did I ever want politics to mix w/ the media I consumed. I don’t want to watch a trailer for a show,movie, game etc and have the first question be is it woke, what political message are they pushing and so on I would love for things to go back to center. Also I do enjoy when y’all do these rant videos from time to time; just saying what you think w/ no F’s to give
I had a discussion on this idea with a friend just yesterday. I’m politically conservative, and I’m aware that Hollywood is dominantly leftist/progressive. I can disagree with the politics and worldview of a show but still enjoy it if it has quality storytelling and good characters, without any overblown preaching. For example, V For Vendetta. I enjoy that movie, and generally watch it once a year (on my birthday, Nov 5). I disagree with the worldview of that story, how it portrays certain views and beliefs. But the quality of the production, a great story and compelling characters still make it enjoyable. How can I do this? Because I understand that I’m being invited into someone else’s world. The creator’s views will control how that world works. There was a interview years ago with author Tom Clancy (Hunt For Red October, etc.) where he was asked why conservative ideals and policies always won the day in his stories. His response was “Because they are my stories.”
@@JoRoq1 I’m center right and I agree with what you say. I love V for Vendetta and other stories like it. However now a days stories aren’t being told the same way anymore. Instead Hollywood beats one over the head with “the message” and if one raises any objections then they get demonized. One can tell whatever story they want and I can say I either love it or hate it but saying I’m homophobic, racist, nazi etc for my beliefs for my likes is ridicules.
Just a bit of correction on the point of tv shows from 60s and 70 from CBS. During the 60s they has plenty of rural based shows which were all canceled in the event called the Rural Purge in the 70s. They cancelled Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Petticoat Junction, Family Affair and Hogan's Heroes which they replaced with more urban and edgier shows like All in the Family. The one curious thing that this event even made it to Congress and the President Nixon as an unwelcome development.
Started watching Fox a lot more about 2018 or so when there was some breaking news event that escapes me now and CNN did a quick mention of it then right back into whatever Trump related thing they were raving on about. It was damn near " just breaking giant asteroid about to wipe out all life on earth.....now back to Trump is a doodyhead ". Went to Fox where they were actually covering the breaking story.
Fox is still considered "Right"? Don't think there's a conservative alive today that doesn't straight up hate that network. Everybody forgets about NewsMax for some reason.
Thank you geeky sparkles keep up the good work everything that came out of your mouth on this episode is the absolute the truth and I'm a 60 year old man and I can see you know what's happening thank you. ✌️✌️🤓🤓
Politics is ephemeral, and all the bullies who enjoyed political protection see their wings burned when politics change. And those who were in darkops will be loose ends for their masters and chased by their enemies. So if there is a real shift, bullies should be very concerned for their own past actions. If it is not a real shift, it is just virtue signaling.
OMG!!! Geeky Sparkles EXPOSES THE TRUTH about the media! I live in L.A. and AFRAID of speaking my thoughts. I miss the days when children were taught: "If you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything at all!" The main newspaper here is SO biased and doing exactly what Geeky said.
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Reality shows are always a hit with women, who are the vast majority of entertainment consumers.
Congratulations on your success
It's the same thing they did with pray they even bitched at the marketing department for marketing it the way they did because it failed horribly I thought it was decent it actually didn't have a lot of woke bullshit in it like they marketed it as the only thing that I'm pissed about was the fact that they misrepresented my native American tribe for as long as I can remember for as long as we've had stories that have been passed down through generation to generation we've had female Comanche warriors it's just like with Nordic culture most of them stay behind to protect the children and those who couldn't fight like the elderly or cripple they were essentially The shield maidens of native American culture
Conspiracy theory.
What if all the shit programming was a ploy to destroy streaming services by making them become insulting social causes propaganda so we now tune in to watch old programs on tv once again, lol
Excuse me...
Geeky dropped her mike again.
Those of us in the middle are tired of being hijacked and vilified by a group of BULLIES. As an actual 90s kid (born in 1983, not a "90s kid" who was born in 1999), I grew up with lots of diversity in school, in the neighborhood, in the TV shows, in the movies, and in the books I read. I was WAY better off before these bullies decided to "fix" a problem that hadn't existed since before I was born.
I'm your age, and grew up with TGIF.
As a pasty white boy, Family Matters, with an all black cast, was my favorite show for the years it was on.
Most people don't care about the racial diversity or lack thereof, as long as the story is good.
The "middle" is a lie. The middle is just the center of the largest majority. The center of the largest majority in the US is actually closer to the left than to the center. There is no right wing party in America. Libertarians aren't even represented by their party.
I agree. Born in 94 and consider myself an early 2000s kid
Hey yo! Fellow 83'er, yes i agree with you, today's generation believes they can block the sun with one finger.
Ditto, I'm not black but Geordie Laforge made me want to be an engineer when I grew up. This woke nonsense is doing nothing but building 'race consciousness' so fast that it would make the national socialists blush.
So they're admitting they weren't centrist to begin with? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Well, not that shocked... 🤣
lmao
Why? It wasn't like they were hiding it...
To be fair their mantra wasn't "Fair and balanced" while never being that.
@@MrlspPrt While they weren't hiding it. One of their biggest lies, particularly on the left, was that they were the center and they weren't leaning anywhere or being extremist in any way.
Remember when everyone watched Seinfeld, Cosby show, fresh prince of bel-aire, full house, Martin, in living color and we’d all laugh and talk about them and no one cared about the race? The 90’s remembers
That actually began in the 70s. Lots of popular 'black' shows during that decade.
@@spaceknight793 Yup, the 80’s and 90’s was very diverse. I was only 3.5 years old in 70’s so don’t remember much. Me and my high school friends and college friends are like where did all this racism come from? Went to school and friends with all kinds. Kids dated across racial lines and we didn’tt care.
And it still popular ever since then.
I blame a decline in the quality of comedy, music and films (or culture) in general. Before, there was a sort of filter, or structure, true, not everyone benefited but for things to succeed, there had to be quality. Nowadays, the same structure has gone and people don't pursue quality: music can be manufactured with the right people, comedy is basically something that ALL people think they can do (seriously in the UK, some MD/GP's think they are comedians doing stand up when they should be treating patients) since "jokes" are just real life talks and films...well, even if they flop, they don't seem to care until Maverick recently it seems.
I only watched Fresh Prince in that list. Loved it. Still do. 😁
Me as a conservative it baffles me how many on the left look at me in disgust, not all but a lot! I have friends on both sides and in the middle and it's the ones on the left that take my criticism of modern geek culture as hatred, racism and bigotry. I'm happy that a shift in the culture is happening.
If they call you that, they aren't your friends.
Thos "friends" that are left aren't if that's how they react to your Opinions. ditch them and let them get eaten by their own
They don't sound like your friends.
Get away from them before they call PROfa on you (change the Pro for Anti to get the fake cover name)
Feedback is just healthy to any creative media. For yeah saying something sucks is useless but so is saying this is good. For these who are willing to give in depth with their feed back. Can be worth their weight in gold. For letting you know your strengths and weaknesses. For this whole idea of only give positive feed back. Just leads to someone not knowing where they need to improve. Which can have negative results in the end, by having the writer fail to understand what truly work and what didn't with their story. Leading to them creating less desirable works, rather than slowly improving over time.
This may be shocking news to some people,
But,
Did you know,
Most people do not like being lied to?
It is not lies, it is just someone elses made up truth!
...unless they hire "escorts." Then they love being lied to.
No Shit
Implying that all media outlets don't lie? The only reason why people give CNN more scrutiny than others is because Trump was pissed off that Jeff Zucker, whom he'd had an amicable relationship with in the past, refused to give him favorable coverage. They really aren't any harder on him than MSNBC (I'd actually argue that they're harsher toward him), he just felt betrayed and turned his base onto them which lead to increased scrutiny when they did lie about news stories, even though all news networks do it. Calling CNN "too left-wing" is a joke anyway; they're total establishment shills, just like all the other networks.
Not true. They like being lied to if it makes them feel good. Look at all the Eco stuff. Most of the initiatives do nothing to save the environment, some are even worse for the environment but people happily go along with it because of the feels.
Going "centrist" is NOT the solution. Going TRUTHFUL is the solution. It's the NEWS. I shouldn't know what candidate that they support, at all. I don't need the commentary. I want just the facts. Call it boring, but it would be informative and watchable.
True.
I miss real newscasts. The kind that isn't filled with opinion pieces. Right now, if an actual news story happens, I find out more from RUclipsrs then supposed news channels.
Isn't being centrist telling the truth without a lens?
The news has never been truthful. The news reports on what it wants. We see skewed reporting all the time on TMZ, CBR, MSN, Huffpost, etc. The news seemed to be more "truthful" during the Evening News with Walter Cronkite, because he didn't add his own agenda messaging. We also believed that Walter Cronkite was telling it like it was.
If CNN wants to be TRUTHFUL the first thing they need to do is Call Donald Trump a Traitor.
If Zaslav wants a news center in the middle, he’ll probably have to scrap CNN and start from scratch. It’s reputation is too low to really recover.
CNN from what I'm hearing only focus on politics which is a problem a new station should focus on the news
If he was smart, he'd just cut his losses already.
Honestly I take CNN as seriously as Fox News now. In fact if anything fox has improved whilst CNN has gone downhill big time. The view is so racist I won’t even watch it. I’d rather have a beer and a barbecue with my Asian neighbors.
I will not forget how frequently CNN blatantly lied to support their political narrative.
How could someone ever trust them to tell the truth?
@@startrekker5888 Fox has mostly admitted its bias. CNN continued to pretend to be unbiased while being almost as left as MSNBC.
Us forgotten Gen-X/Gen-X-adjacent (millennials who are so old we were raised like Gen-X) were raised properly on true diversity, not today's 'diversity'. We grew up with diverse shows in diverse classrooms with lessons on accepting people as who they are, not what they are. To be suddenly slapped in the face as adults with this 'new' diversity push where you're FORCED to see WHAT people are instead of WHO they are is confusing and harmful. I'm sorry. I'm not going to treat you based on WHAT you are. I'm going to continue to follow what my upbringing in the 80s and early 90s taught me during my formative years. Your character matters more.
Louder for the people in the back!
(millennials who are so old we were raised like Gen-X)
THANK FUCKING YOU
People like Geeky that say the problem is on both sides just irks me. I’ve been a democrat my entire life, the problems today are almost entirely coming from the left. And because of those problems I’ll never vote for a democrat ever again.
She's a mum and a teacher, trained to be fair.
Same
I’m in a similar boat, but I love Geeky working so hard to stay ‘fair and balanced’. It’s comforting.
I've seen issues on both sides. I recall the days when people on the other end believed Obama was a literal Antichrist, including some of my own relatives.
They essentially behaved towards him how modern leftists do towards Trump. Overall the issue of extremism seems to switch back and forth between the two.
They aren't 'centrist.' They are slightly less far left, and only pretending at that.
Let it end the way it deserves for the untold damage they wrought.
And what do they deserve? And what untold damage?
agree needs to stop, media should be unbias and just report the dam news being you are lean left or right
@@jazziered142 Due to the biased, slanted, and quite frankly biggutted way they have treated middle Americans, white people (especially the white working class) on rayss issues, anybody who dislikes open boarders and glow bull issum, anybody who dislikes encroachment upon Constitutional liberties, men who dislike mizandry, anybody who dislikes black privvy uh ledge, and anybody who dislikes the detthgrip that that certain tribe from the middle east has on America: they deserve to be put up against walls, and / or swing from lampposts.
That's as judgemental and dismissive as saying all conservatives are bigots.
You may want to work on that sales pitch
@@somethingclever8916 How do you come to that conclusion? CNN deserves to be judged and dismissed as they've proved years of reasons to do just that.
If you just say "all conservatives are bigots, there isn't evidence of that. This seems like a really, really weak comparison you're trying to make.
CNN is too far gone
Not if they're self-evaluating and making changes. Unlike FoxNews, which only doubles down on their insanity.
The sky is blue
Yes please cater to middle America. I am sick of anything woke and progressive. If I know its woke I will go out of my way to not support it.
Every time Geeky Sparkles loses her mind, I absolutely love it. She’s speaking to my soul.
They called it ‘Trump derangement syndrome’
There not going centrist, there just trying to convince that they have changed.
I agree with you, they want dissatisfied people to tune to see if it's centrist for views.
I'm waiting to see. What the left calls "centrist" is still way left of center.
Just like an abusive ex that tries to manipulate you into taking them back.
Exactly, its just a cover to try and draw viewers back. The proverbial shiny object
Eh, I’ll give ‘em a shot.
Is it fair to keep saying "both sides" when one side owns the institutions, hollywood, and the bureaucratic state?
Is it fair to keep saying "both sides" when almost every issue has multiple points of view? It's a problem that they have no diversity of thought on the issues; they only present everything from the same two perspectives.
"All the polarisation is pretty bullshit."
"Yeah, but other side bad though."
Democrats and republicans work together to hurt people.
There is no "both sides", there are a dozen sides, some of which are in agreement, others in absolute conflict. We group it up into two groups, because that makes it easier to map to the major political parties.
I’m never going back to CNN. They have damaged my trust in them so much that it cannot be repaired, even if I was deranged enough to give them the opportunity.
I think there is a path to regaining the audience's trust, but it would take about 2 years to do it. The network would have to make a commitment to being a watchdog for the people's interest instead of corporate/business interests. If they would make that pivot, they would become the #1 news network and no one else would be close.
Short of them literally admitting to being a propaganda arm of the DNC and list all of their blatant lies and admit they helped meddle in elections and makes reparations to the lives harmed by the distribution of their propaganda I don't see me going back.
Forgiveness requires an admission of guilt from them.
@@jaymethysell5111 consider they get infiltrated and reversed back to what they are now. Then what? Are we going to wait another 2 years all over again? That doesn't sound like a practical solution.
You nailed it again Geeky "I like girl power, but girl power that makes sense" I'm so over it. I'm tired because 'strong female' means something entirely different these days.
Yes, it means masculine. Women don't need to be masculine, we are ok being feminine.
This is what happens when your core business practice consists of belittling and guilt tripping your audience
TL;DR: leftist media throws a temper tantrum because the majority of America is tired of their shit.
We need more Geeky rants... that was 100% spot on.
She doesn't rant often, but when she does it's a sight to behold.
Except for the part where she doesn't know how to pronounce the word "majority".
Except it isn't both sides, all the hate lies and division comes from the left lunatics
@@jdkgcp But I can asshole just fine.
A good rant is way better than fake CNN news
This reminds me of when Trump was the hero of the civil rights movement (say what? Don't let the memory hole get you)
He was the first to open his golf resorts to everyone saying the only colour that mattered to him was green.
Profit did wonders for equality for decades.
A good economy has ladders for anyone who wants to climb.
And people tend to encourage each other.
Woke doesn't do anything for anyone. It breeds resentment and bankruptcy.
@qtsssim you will note I said when the economy is good (and globalism is not in play) there are ladders for everyone. The globalists and the Liberals broke the economy.
And also supports sports betting to be legalized back in the 1990s
Yeah that's probably why him and his dad were sued back in the 1970s when they refused to rent to Black people. He was so progressive
@@amacookies89 wrong, look up the history, there were tons of pictures of him with black activists who praised him. He got awards etc. I know that info doesn't fit with the "orange man bad" narrative. But that narrative started with Hillary and didn't exist at all before 2016. Before then he was a favourite of the Left (yes the left, see his interview with Oprah). He was on SNL as a great guy etc. Only when he crossed Hillary (and Jeffery E) did the narrative change.
The black activists and everyone on the left who had praised him for decades pretended that never happened.
I'm old enough to remember when Biden was known to be a close friend of the KKK and Trump was an anti racist hero. So you can say BS but I was there I saw it with my own eyes. No amount of narrative will change that.
Just like I remember when the ACLU stood for free speech and freedom. I was there!
I dont believe CNN will actually go centrist.
Wokeness has been creeping in slowly for decades but it's the last 10 years where it's gone into overdrive
They used to call woke "political correctness."
It just mutated when they had enough people placed into power in the right places (educators, human resources, and a few CEO's and a LOT of middle management in these corporations).
@@AvengerII if the recession and course correction can cut down and get rid of a majority of these people let it be done.
@@mikecampos1193 The last recession only accelerated us onto the path we're currently on now.
We're also not looking at a recession at the moment. They are so desperate to redefine what the word means to distract people from the fact that we're heading for a depression, possibly The Great Depression 2.0, global famine included.
@@lpsoldin3162 Meanwhile, the people in charge are sending billions to be laundered in a war that has zero benefit for our country. At the same time that their spending has skyrocketed inflation for our grocery bills.
@@paul.9828 It's amazing that your post was Umbra-deleted. They're really getting desperate with their censorship.
The war spending is bad enough. I'm more annoyed that anyone cheered for the "Inflation Reduction Act" which claims the aim of addressing the issue of printing more money by printing more money.
I would be genuinely surprised if there's anyone left at CNN who even understands what it would mean to be centrist. They see themselves as being on the _right side of history,_ ideologically. It's a sociopolitical framework that functions as a kind of civic religion. There can be no discourse with we, the heathens. Only proselytization or denunciation... for now.
More like a sociopathic framework.
They have no real empathy and get violent and threaten people when they DON'T get their ABSOLUTE way.
@@AvengerII totally, there's no compromise and no cooperation. I don't believe that sort of dangerous ideology exists exclusively as a microcosm of the political left, but certainly in the era we're living through now, their influence and pernicious effect on our culture is undeniable imo.
Someone needs to sit the executives down and explain that to them. I think it's more of a pride issue because it's not like people haven't been saying this for years.
They have rejected traditional religion and filled it with something else. They are a bit like the old red guard in China. Pure fanatics.
@@terrathunderstorms3701 yep. Just one, ONE conservative in the room when they were planning CNN+ could have pointed out how it would be TOTAL failure. They sat in their echo chamber thinking we'd buy their CNN+ shit.
Lol makes no difference to me, I'll never trust corporate anything, ever. Corporations will NEVER care about the little guy, you're just something to bleed money from.
Sure, but if you feel you've got value for money you don't mind.
*”Everything woke turns to shit."*
- Pres. Donald J. Trump,
Cullman, AL (21 Aug 2021)
"How many times do I need to flush this thing before it's clean?"
--David Zaslav (on CNN)
When people are hired for not being straight, White, and male, you will get (on average) lower performance than if you hire by merit. Occasionally someone hired for a stupid reason does a great job, but less often than if you hire people with good past performance. Then when if comes time to let go of the people not performing as well, guess who ends up on the chopping block?
I'm fortunate that I have shielded a workplace from getting sued due to the other dishwasher at Dairy Queen had Autism. I hate diversity hires. This was 2018 of my third week of work for the shit hole. The guy just plumb sucked. I have mental issues, but if I suck, i suck. 😐
Democrat myself!!! Totally agree!!! Traditional values family and love is what sells not giving everyone a piece of the pie just because especially when it'll never be enough. Look at Japan they understand straight love and entertainment is what sells. LGBTQ isn't special unique or interesting anymore it's nothing but a joke now.
Does this explain why this current sucks so much?
The white house press secretary is a PERFECT and public example of why diversity hires are a horrible idea.
What about the school board that tried to make it that they have to fire the white teachers first . Think it was in Minnesota but it really happened. Yeah conservatives are the racists.
I won’t believe it until they fire Don Lemmon.
IF THEY FIRE DON, I WILL HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND SMASH MY TV.
He still sticking his hand into his pants like he’s Toobin n Lubing?
@@roast-thekamenrider8591, and start your own CNN. #StopBeingWoke
I'm shocked they haven't yet given all the harassment cases against him.
@@videonut1988 He's a troll account. No content, no liked videos or subscriptions in 4 years.
Yep, another phantom bot!
They probably have more people like him on RUclips than even Twitter...
They would be better off rebranding, the name CNN is like a poisoned well.
With cable dying, CNN is obsolete. We no longer need a Cable News Network. Either they should fold or rebrand.
I’m tired of hearing how tired everyone is of the polarization. Not paying attention to how you’re being manipulated is how we got here.
Until people hold their OWN side accountable, polarization will continue unabated. Viewers have themselves to blame. If they keep watching what confirms their bias, that's exactly what CNN, FoxNews, etc will continue to produce.
@Rin Wesley Bingo! But at this point it is not about righting the ship but lessening the political left.
The company is not in the business of news telling and never has been but pushing bad opinions as fact and profits be damned.
Now for the company to survive they must be profitable but at this moment it is hilarious to see the roaches running because the light was turned on.
The reputation that they have earned for themselves by being the political left's attack dog will destroy them and it is justified.
@Spaceknight79 that's completely correct. Unfortunately neither will. Until Fox News stops bending over backwards to defend Sunkissed Voldemort and MSNBC with President Geriatrics, CNN will fail with any attempt to be "Centrist" as they'll eventually swing to whichever side of the isle brings the ratings and thus the money.
30%/40%/30% and the two ends aren’t morally equivalent.
They're not going centrist. They'll still be far left
Nope Davie Boy won't allow it because it'll cost em money
Slightly less left
@@shadowwolf8434 I have a bridge to sell ya. You'll buy it and even tell everyone how solid it is too.
Country is very polarized. Doesn't MSNBC have more viewers than CNN? Also, far right will watch centrist entertainment
Us in the west coast are also sick of these political shenanigans. My best friend is a conservative and we've never allowed our political association to damage our friendship. I'm with Geeky, we need the truth and we need to go back to a more civil state.
Extreme political opinions get ratings, because a ranting madman is far more entertaining to watch than a calm, rational, and sane speaker giving a lecture. Until people want reasoned discourse, we'll keep getting extremist political opinions on TV. That's what gets the networks the ratings they want.
Screw CNN. Fool me once…
They've yet to go center, let's see them do it first. They were never "centrist" even in their best of times 15 - 20 years ago, they were still leaning left.
Being to just to the right marx is considered moderate/ right leaning these days
I think they'll always *lean* left. They didn't always cater to the far left though.
@@daa589 And if you are even remotely to the right of Bernie you are a fascist
Neither CNN nor any other mainstream news sources in America are leftists beyond the superficial divisive identity politics crap
@@LedPESRule Eh, MSNBS has the occasional true leftist on. Other than that, they’re corporate centrists
It's hilarious they think they are the majority
Boycotting CNN is not a hard thing to do
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
The only challenge is constantly telling RUclips that you're not interested when their videos constantly show up in your recommendations.
@@jaymethysell5111 True.
I've been boycotting them since Lou Dobbs left
How about this... CNN, just report the damn news without a political slant!!!
You mean CNN actually has to report actual news and not on emotions.
You mean CNN doesn't have to defend Snoop Dogg anymore?
I don't see them calling Biden out on his shit of even a fraction of how they treated Trump.
haha ikr, just imagine any news outlet actually reporting news is shocking, not fake news garbage they been pushing for longest time
@@kyotheman69 And actually calling black people who commit crimes 'criminals'.
@@kosmosXcannon Brcause if you call out A Democrat, The Left will come after you.
Geeky rants are short and concrete... quite the equilibrium of fun there. You can taste the anger and frustration in her words and tone, but it's also very palatable that she's enjoy the time.
Geeky is spot on! Divide the people, and they will fail to see the issues in the leadership. More reason to bring things back to the center.
Mainstream media needs to be Middle of the road for the survival of society.
They need to be able to investigate everything and question everything or the system doesn't work.
This points out what I have always maintained is the biggest bias; a bias the New Progressive gleefully engage in and ignore is an issue: regional bias. I've seen more vitriol and poor treatment about people based solely on the region of the US they were born in than I ever have gender, orientation, race etc. If you aren't from a few regions of the US (West Coast, NYC, maybe Chicago and a few others) you're a serf. I've had more hate and slurs thrown at me simply because of my faint accent and where I was born (and this is me being just born in Rural New England I can't imagine how much worse for those in other places).
if your from the south your targetest the most the only group its ok to erotype at all times they treat anyone from the south like a dumb inveed wacis hill billy bible thumper.
the only POSTIVE "southern" personaity your even allowed to depict in media is the wannabe cowboy.
So much truth in this comment. I've seen more viciousness directed towards people not from one of the elitist regions than anything else.
Yes. This is really disgusting and shameful behavior. Bigoted, intolerant, know it alls. This behavior gets reinforced and concentrated in a lot of universities and colleges.
Being inner city is detrimental for these news stations. Higher volume of people means higher volume of crazy, increasing the likelihood of hiring crazy.
Not to mention it puts them completely out of touch with how the majority of America is.
I agree and appreciate your rant. We fought like hell in the 60’s and 70’s for what we all have now. Makes me sick and tired of the politicalization of every thing and how negative we have become. Some seem to wallow in the negative and want to pull us all in that swamp. Change is coming 🙏🙏
I believe it was Mark Twain who said the deadliest insult in the English language is to call a man a politician.
As a news reporter, CNN MUST stay neutral. But as news "analyst", the CNN can be left or right, or even both. But I agree CNN should have talk shows featuring more "conservative opinion" and let the audience chooses which side they want to hear more about. Remember, ratings never lies!
Yes
CNN used to have a show called "Crossfire" which was a weekday discussion on current affairs with 2 co-hosts- each with a different political POV. It's a shame one can't have that today in the MSM.
they have always been liars and that won't change.
My 60+ year old mom is rewatching Star Trek: TNG, I told her about Discovery & Picard, and despite how much she loves Picard in TNG, she isn't watch either of the new shows after hearing about them & what they are about.
Studios need to go back to using Columbus, Ohio as their test market, like they did for tv and other products back in the day.
Like Qube?
@@SamtheBravesFan yes! (I'm a big fan of the Nick Knacks series, and the history of cable is a fascinating part of it).
I wonder if Columbus, Ohio would then be inundated with wokists moving in to have their say?
Brian Stelter was nauseating along with most of CNN talking heads. Not shedding a single tear at him getting gone.
Moving to Center is NOT ENOUGH! They need to focus on POSITIVE news MORE instead of NEGATIVE. (Just like BBC)
OMG, I so know what you mean, the BBC seem to end their news segments on something that will either piss someone off or something that is negative.
Preach it girl. Preach it.
CNN is middle now? Well here's a middle on my finger to you CNN.
"He wants it to be centrist... HE MUST BE FAAAAAR RIGHT!"
I felt the American flag waving behind Geeky while she was ranting with truth, justice, and the middle American way
I'm conservative and I watched Star Trek TNG. I didn't consider it overall woke or liberal. In many instances they were conservative themes. So in that case I would consider it a success to both sides. The writers must have walked right down the middle and made both sides happy and have something to point to.
TNG was politically Liberal, but not Progressive. It ran on a foundation of classical liberalism (freedom and self-determination) with a Leftward interpretation that still shared a common basis with Conservative views.
In contrast, modern Progressivism actively eschews and condemns any shared basis with Conservative views.
@@JoRoq1 yeah, a lot of political terms have drifted over the years. Overton window and all that.
All of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek shows were an attempt to show Americans what a post-capitalist, socialist society could look like. It really is the only example Americans have of such a society. One aspects about DS9 that I thought was very interesting is that it showed us how the Federation had to directly interact and engage with capitalism.
@@jaymethysell5111 It’s the truth about Star Trek that few of the fans can admit - a successful Utopia is boring and unimpressive.
@@jaymethysell5111 apologies for such a long comment to all involved, and mean this in no way to be percieved as condescending or disrespectful in any way. But I must protest to this comment.
I don't understand how star trek is a Socialist Utopia. In each series there exists private enterprize, there is private property, and the Federation itself is a representative republic wherein each planet maintains a degree of sovereignty and self determination over its affairs (Something that is not possible in a Socialist state). If it's supposed to be "Socialist", then I'm afraid Gene, a supposed Marxist, didn't understand what the term meant or what Marx was advocating using socialism for. There is no centrally planned economy that is explicitly referenced or shown, and in various instances federation peoples barter with eachother for goods. What is represented via the shows (including TOS), is a post scarce Liberal utopia. Liberalism is Capitalist, but since scarcity has been eliminated via technological advancement, you have a utopia wherein most all wants can readily be fulfilled and people produce things without the need to do so. Socialism is the collective control of the means of production for the good of the whole. Or, in other words, a collective body- such as the state, or the public sector, controlling the economy for its own well being. The state being the overarching public collective in star trek (The Federation). For star trek to be Socialist, the majority of the economy would have to be centralized under the Federation's direct authority. Furthermore, Marxism or Communism, Gene supposedly being an admitted Marxist, dictates the abolition of private property entirely, and a sign of the eventually utopia he prophesies is that the socialist state will give way, as it will no longer be neccesary. The Federation is a state. Star Trek certainly isn't Marxist or Communist as personal belonging and private housing are represented. Picard's wine isn't being seized by the Federation, Kirk has to use women as a currency to barter with miners for Dilithium (lol a hilarious episode, and he would not have to do that in a socialist system as the dilithium would already be property of the federation), and I don't think Sisko's dad's restaraut is property of the Federation either. Sisko's second wife is running her own private shipping firm. The Federation would likely have social programs, and the education and medicine are probably heavily subsidized by the state perhaps being socialized, however that hardly makes the society Socialist. Starfleet is a military organization, and is as such socialized. However Starfleet is just the exploratory and defensive arm of a far greater society. On the star ship Enterprise, the crew are participating in a socialist system, but this is true for the real life crew of the real life enterprise. An enlistee is selling themselves to the state for a period of time, during which the state owns them, their labor, and the product of that labor. But that's not how life works for American civilians, and this is also true of the Federation. If anyone is curious what socialism is like, join the military, you'll be totally socialized while your serving, at least while on duty.
Good point by Geeky, the language labels to divide. I deal with people face to face and form opinions of them based on the interaction. This is another version of feeding our opinions to us, which is why we tuned out long ago.
Geeky Sparkles you are 100% correct
When I read news I want truthful information not political information
I live in England and In my local HMV and they had a display featuring box sets of stuff from 80's and 70's. When I got home I had a look on the their website and I was surprised how many old black and white movies they had, some quite obscure ones that I was surprised where even on DVD. That suits me fine I've got a large dvd collection, I've always preferred physical media and it can't be taken off you or edited for "modern audiences".
Same here. Large dvd collection everything from old black and white Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes to latest SF like Moonfall (ok not saying they are all good movies....). I will not have any streaming shows and haven't watched live TV since 2017 and have cancelled my TV licence to rely 100% on dvd. Like you say they can't take them from you or edit them. Two concerns though. Firstly, new movies and shows that I might've bought are not coming to dvd (The Old Guard for example) and I am just waiting for the announcement that no new dvd players to be made. They have already removed dvd players from pcs and laptops. I have a stash of 5 multiregion dvd players brand new still unopened and hope that they plus my two in use players will last out my remaining years. But I will never subscribe to any streaming service and the nearest I come to such is RUclips. I am quite happy to be in the position of never being able to watch She Hulk or such woke minded programming and I sure as hell won't spend money on a dvd release of the show.
Ditto and you are lucky to have a HMV! Used to be a large one where I live before it became a Poundstretcher!
Said it before, I LOVE when Geeky go off on a rant! Love the passion to tell it like it is. Keep it coming.
The cultural shift we’re about to experience is gonna be epic.
I miss the days when most people didn't even know a movie was being made until seeing the advertising just before it hit theaters. It was a surprise. It was fun. It was a special feeling. You could root for the good guys or the bad guys and nobody really cared. Taking sides was part of the whole movie fandom and it was all in good fun.
Now as soon as a movie is greenlit we start hearing about it. Sometimes years ahead of the actual release. Who are the actors and what are their politics? Who is the director and are they 'inclusive'? What is the plot and does it include progressive messaging? Does Twitter approve? Are you on the internet approved side of "good" vs "bad".
It's just exhausting now. Even if I go into a movie I know I'm going to like I just can't fully enjoy it.
If current trend continue the Amish will be the majority of the US population by 2220 and Mormons will be a huge chunk of the US population in the early 2100's thanks to sky high birth rates, same in Canada and growing like crazy in Latin America as well thanks to sky high birthrates while everyone else has crashing birthrates.
There's not going to be a cultural shift; in my opinion there's going to be a second Civil War, except this time its going to take place all over America and its going to be the right versus the left.
I can't wait.
I'm dreading it personally, since it's going to be brutal. We all know they are going to fight back harder than ever. We are all so tired, yet it stills feels like for some reason that the war is only just getting started.....
...... Wow Just awesome you two. Thank you so much for saying this I just wish more people understood what's really happening.
Their “centrist” is 1 femtometer right of Mao.
Nice. I give you a millijoule of applause.
This needs to happen and then maybe others will follow suit. Rid of the woke and back to real entertainment
Given that the far left has moved the center quite a bit left, their new version of "center" is still going to be a leftist take.
CNN's brand is so damaged it will take years to get it back, if they ever do.
Pre enterprises star trek was pretty based in a lot of areas. Sure there were "left" leaning episodes but there were "right" leaning episode too. Even voyager tackled topics like capital punishment and false rap* accusations in a very intelligent and nuanced way.
I can't stand reality TV, if I wanted to watch reality I'd just live my life which is much more interesting then fake low budget "reality" tv.
What you guys said about millennials switching to old TV is true for me. Every night before I go to bed I put on a playlist of old shows I saved on a hard drive with stuff like Late Night With Conan O'Brien, King of the Hill and MXC. Also Geeky's rant was spot on!
I'm still watching old QI.on disc
So true. For example, I'm currently watching Family Ties and the 60s Addams Family TV show.
What America needs to do is completly vote out every incumbent.
One of the easiest ways to bring CNN back to profitability:
1. Add CNN as a free news channel on Amazon Prime and other streaming devices. You can't fast forward through the commercials, so CNN will make money from people watching the commercials.
2. Bring CNN back to their Headnews format, where there were dedicated segments in each 30 minutes for national news, weather, sports, etc.
Geeky, spot on rant. I could not have said it better. And the reality is more people are getting to this point of being pushed to their limit on this crap. I just hope it is enough to start turning things around.
1.5 million is not a hit, even with 1.5 million, it’s still the second lowest watched marvel show premier…it lost to Hawkeye.
I was going to post something similar. When did 1.5 million = a hit? Carson averaged 60 million viewers. That's such a tiny audience, especially for what they claim is a global audience.
Waiting on the left to call it "the far middle".
Dang.... Geeky talkin' truth today!
This is by far one of the absolute best Clownfish TV videos, ever.
An apple is an apple? So a woman is a woman? I know I’m reaching but that’s how these people will turn it “ No a woman is state of mind.” So…is that apple state of mind? Ahhhhh! The hypocrisy makes my brain hurt
carefull thats the one thing they are terrified to talk about.
i dont blam them anyone called "Terfs" by the twatterait get phsyically beaten by mobs every other weak.
Big issue I take on all of this is, the networks waited 10 years too late to change course. With the damage they've done, I may never return to cable television. It doesn't make any sense to me. They knew for sometime that their ratings were awful, and they refused to turn back. They were content to force their programming onto us regardless. And their actions permeated every other form of entertainment!
You raise such a good point about how much content already exists, much of it far superior to what's being made today. With the tens of thousands of movies and TV shows that already exist, Hollywood could vanish tomorrow and I could live the rest of my life watching a new movie or show every day and not come close to scratching the surface of what's out there.
The old twilight zone is way better than the wokist message vehicle that came out a few years ago, for example.
It is a good point. A lot of streaming sites push content that was made only in the last couple years, but if you’re willing to dig even a little there is metric tons of content, of all kinds, to enjoy. I check to see if it was made before 2018 in general, but older is better, with few exceptions.
I mean, there's a reason Fox gets more views than CNN.
The wokies screaming how terrible this idea is might just be right. It's been too long, and getting the public trust back is gonna be an uphill battle.
Anyone who trusts CNN now or anytime in the next 10 years needs to be in an asylum
In other news, Warner Bros. Discovery has $20 Billion in Market Capital.
Damn… Geeky spittin' hot fire today!!
I have my political beliefs but never did I ever want politics to mix w/ the media I consumed. I don’t want to watch a trailer for a show,movie, game etc and have the first question be is it woke, what political message are they pushing and so on I would love for things to go back to center. Also I do enjoy when y’all do these rant videos from time to time; just saying what you think w/ no F’s to give
I had a discussion on this idea with a friend just yesterday. I’m politically conservative, and I’m aware that Hollywood is dominantly leftist/progressive. I can disagree with the politics and worldview of a show but still enjoy it if it has quality storytelling and good characters, without any overblown preaching.
For example, V For Vendetta. I enjoy that movie, and generally watch it once a year (on my birthday, Nov 5). I disagree with the worldview of that story, how it portrays certain views and beliefs. But the quality of the production, a great story and compelling characters still make it enjoyable.
How can I do this? Because I understand that I’m being invited into someone else’s world. The creator’s views will control how that world works. There was a interview years ago with author Tom Clancy (Hunt For Red October, etc.) where he was asked why conservative ideals and policies always won the day in his stories. His response was “Because they are my stories.”
@@JoRoq1 I’m center right and I agree with what you say. I love V for Vendetta and other stories like it. However now a days stories aren’t being told the same way anymore. Instead Hollywood beats one over the head with “the message” and if one raises any objections then they get demonized. One can tell whatever story they want and I can say I either love it or hate it but saying I’m homophobic, racist, nazi etc for my beliefs for my likes is ridicules.
@@brothersingaming6372 *ridiculous
International newsreader Don LeMon must be so salty right now
Center huh, I'd be surprised if they could actually find a journalist!
Just a bit of correction on the point of tv shows from 60s and 70 from CBS. During the 60s they has plenty of rural based shows which were all canceled in the event called the Rural Purge in the 70s. They cancelled Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Petticoat Junction, Family Affair and Hogan's Heroes which they replaced with more urban and edgier shows like All in the Family. The one curious thing that this event even made it to Congress and the President Nixon as an unwelcome development.
Amen sister. You nailed it .
These digital "news" sites can't die soon enough.
Started watching Fox a lot more about 2018 or so when there was some breaking news event that escapes me now and CNN did a quick mention of it then right back into whatever Trump related thing they were raving on about.
It was damn near " just breaking giant asteroid about to wipe out all life on earth.....now back to Trump is a doodyhead ".
Went to Fox where they were actually covering the breaking story.
The center has no competition. On the right is Fox. On the left NBC, CBS, and ABC. So no competition for the majority. Smart business.
75% to 80% of the market.
Fox is controlled opposition for the left
@@ClownfishTV The tired majority.
Fox is still considered "Right"? Don't think there's a conservative alive today that doesn't straight up hate that network. Everybody forgets about NewsMax for some reason.
The center is just the right the left have gone so far left there is no distinction anymore
Thank you geeky sparkles keep up the good work everything that came out of your mouth on this episode is the absolute the truth and I'm a 60 year old man and I can see you know what's happening thank you. ✌️✌️🤓🤓
Politics is ephemeral, and all the bullies who enjoyed political protection see their wings burned when politics change. And those who were in darkops will be loose ends for their masters and chased by their enemies. So if there is a real shift, bullies should be very concerned for their own past actions. If it is not a real shift, it is just virtue signaling.
CNN being center?
"I'd buy that for a dolllar." - Robocop
Exactly the reason why they use a franchise that's already established so they don't have to do actual work to get more people to like it
OMG!!! Geeky Sparkles EXPOSES THE TRUTH about the media! I live in L.A. and AFRAID of speaking my thoughts. I miss the days when children were taught: "If you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything at all!" The main newspaper here is SO biased and doing exactly what Geeky said.
Preach it, Geeky!!!
But all these political people don’t know how corrupt they are.!!!
Preach girl! You are spot on!