Tech Workers SHOCKED to Learn That Money Can Run Out.

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

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  • @BajaBCat
    @BajaBCat 2 года назад +610

    Breaking news: companies are going back to actually focusing on, and rewarding, performance. Inspiring.

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 2 года назад +22

      Not for a while. I would rather not put trust on these guys anymore.

    • @rickyrayrosenberg420
      @rickyrayrosenberg420 2 года назад +1

      lol. no- society will collapse first

    • @frojanty
      @frojanty 2 года назад +21

      ...pffff....doubtful maybe a few but others clearly dont *points at blizzard and sony and EA*

    • @Nonamearisto
      @Nonamearisto 2 года назад

      _Surviving_ companies will reward performance. A ton are going to die out. Natural selection.

    • @rickyrayrosenberg420
      @rickyrayrosenberg420 2 года назад +10

      @@Nonamearisto yeah and they will use the glut of devs from failing companies to undercut the salaries of their current devs.

  • @arealtomg
    @arealtomg 2 года назад +314

    If they promised everybody a raise and THEN found out nobody was doing their job correctly, I'm not mad at all. They should have their pays CUT.

    • @rickrollrizal
      @rickrollrizal 2 года назад +3

      But reparations and racisms. Who to cut?

    • @Richforce1
      @Richforce1 2 года назад +8

      Only if it's a cut of 100% followed by being asked to not let the door hit butts on the way out because they're FIRED!

    • @rolandswift4311
      @rolandswift4311 2 года назад +7

      I partially agree, but if they didn't crunch the numbers BEFORE making such a big promise then they aren't exactly blameless. Part of the problem IS poor management, and the managers should be held accountable.

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 2 года назад +5

      @@rolandswift4311 I wonder how astray many managers were led by their HR Departments. Nowadays, whenever somebody is not pulling their weight, you get reprimanded for "disparaging your co-worker."

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 2 года назад +1

      @@rickrollrizal equally. All of them. Then rehire the useful ones?

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 2 года назад +206

    "Whenever your company starts running low on funds the only solution is to funnel what money is left into the marketing department." - Marketing 101

    • @ravengrey6874
      @ravengrey6874 2 года назад +24

      "All 10,000 of the 100 people in this Twitter group I created agree with, and endorse, this statement"

  • @lowkeyarki7091
    @lowkeyarki7091 2 года назад +116

    Can't believe grown adults can't comprehend that compaies need to make money first so that they can pay their employees.

    • @ravengrey6874
      @ravengrey6874 2 года назад +9

      But...but...but....Everyone KNOWS the companies just have all the money....just, like, make more.....

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII 2 года назад +17

      Newsflash -- many of these workers are NOT adults.
      They're functioning at the emotional level of maybe 5-year-olds.
      The worst are still stuck in their Terrible Two's!

    • @ravengrey6874
      @ravengrey6874 2 года назад +7

      @@AvengerII The 5 year olds my mother teaches take offense at this comparison

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII 2 года назад +7

      @@ravengrey6874 Sorry!
      I should have said "adult imposters" instead of emotionally 5 year-olds!
      This is one of the few times I can think of where the double-speak is more accurate!

    • @ryanpeck3377
      @ryanpeck3377 2 года назад +5

      To be fair most of these tech companies have run off the fed printed free money venture capital for more than 10 years, these workers (in their 20s/early 30s) havent known anything else. They have normalcy bias and expect things to continue the way the have forever.

  • @jewymchoser
    @jewymchoser 2 года назад +83

    In tech, 90% of the work is done by 10% of employees and there is no way to know who delivers during hiring. It's a hot mess :)

    • @Lyokou
      @Lyokou 2 года назад +8

      I can attest to the truth of this statement.

    • @uglystupidloser
      @uglystupidloser 2 года назад +6

      well, maybe companies should change to more contract work and longer probations. and the most effective employees are kept and promoted.

    • @jewymchoser
      @jewymchoser 2 года назад

      @@Lyokou I’m a web / app dev. What about you?

    • @Mephitinae
      @Mephitinae 2 года назад +6

      So just like In Dilbert

    • @jewymchoser
      @jewymchoser 2 года назад

      @@uglystupidloser if only there was a surplus of talent looking for tech jobs to make that happen. I am not just saying that. Working with a bad coder is 10x worse than no coder at all.
      A good / average coder, with a great attitude, is probably still worth it. But even that is rare these days.

  • @WarpChaos
    @WarpChaos 2 года назад +78

    They were so focused on virtue-signaling, they forgot to make a profit.

    • @douglasarthur2673
      @douglasarthur2673 2 года назад +10

      I can see the headlines already…….Employees Must Contribute - Trans POC’s Most Affected !

    • @ravengrey6874
      @ravengrey6874 2 года назад +3

      There's an argument that land developers use when they want a municipality to give them land. "Give us the land cheap (or for free) and our project will boost tax revenues by [insert % here]". Usually this statement is backed by a bunch of testimonials, "expert" and otherwise, and graphs and charts that mean nothing.
      My guess is that similar arguments were made in the media industry. "Modern audiences are supportive of the LBGTQ community, by representing more of that in our media you will get more (sales/views/revenue), and thus make more money. Look this poll i did of these people on twitter agree"

  • @theghostofmaximumvolume3414
    @theghostofmaximumvolume3414 2 года назад +34

    Big tech. has a short memory...
    AOL, Napster, and MySpace were profitable at one time.

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 2 года назад

      MySpace kind of died because they were bought by The News Corporation.

    • @f1champ551
      @f1champ551 2 года назад +3

      And MySpace is now a hub for Musicians and artists... It's a carcass of what it used to be.

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 2 года назад +5

      @@f1champ551 MySpace is being used as a media platform, rather than a technical platform.

    • @f1champ551
      @f1champ551 2 года назад +3

      @@LuigiTheMetal64 I might have missed seeing because I thought there are only musicians and artists that are on the site the last time I was there...

  • @Alaitoc1422
    @Alaitoc1422 2 года назад +63

    Wait...They don't have performance reviews!?
    Well that explains a lot.

  • @diracsea4590
    @diracsea4590 2 года назад +160

    Cant wait for this to hit my company. I work like a mofo; and everyone comes to me for everything. Id love to get more money for the work I put in.

    • @sirennoir258
      @sirennoir258 2 года назад +19

      My job is beautiful. The metrics are there in black and white. You either meet them, demonstrate you are improving toward meeting them, of fail and find a new job.

    • @ninneplug
      @ninneplug 2 года назад +1

      Good luck

    • @asdf51501
      @asdf51501 2 года назад +3

      You’re fighting against people who will prove to be very good at justifying all the things they don’t actually do.

    • @NeoShameMan
      @NeoShameMan 2 года назад

      You won't get a raise, they'll just fire the others.

    • @ericdugal8818
      @ericdugal8818 2 года назад

      You'll have to ask for it in many cases, especially in a larger company.

  • @royalnovember66
    @royalnovember66 2 года назад +19

    If a lowly office janitor has to have his performance reviewed if he wants a raise, I don't see why tech people making a lot more money should not be held to the same accountability principles.

  • @grahamjl766
    @grahamjl766 2 года назад +115

    The last 10 or so years ago All the tech companies would literally come up with an idea, go public, run at a deficit and be valued at their future potential. Netflix Facebook, Twitter... all of them did it. I'm honestly not surprised they would think like they do lol.

    • @dusty_blue
      @dusty_blue 2 года назад +9

      And all of them nowadays are facing various troubles, not limited to controversies of their own making...How times have changed

    • @JohnP538
      @JohnP538 2 года назад +2

      They believed that the subscriber pool was limitless, so they spent money like drunken sailers on leave. Now that people have to pinch pennies carrying three or four streaming services is no longer an option.

  • @changer_of_ways_999
    @changer_of_ways_999 2 года назад +130

    Everyone always says, "It still sucks that they're out of a job." No, no it's not. These people chose their profession without thinking. They could have seen the obvious signs that things were going to turn on them, and they did nothing. On top of that, these are horrible people that have been fueling hate, violence, bigotry, discrimination... all the things they're supposedly against. They're both stupid and evil and I'm happy to see them to finally have some sort of consequence for their bad decisions. They've been coddled probably since birth, raised in safe spaces and given participation trophies. It's time for them to finally be treated like adults.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +4

      Woah there!! Who are you talking about? The tech workers or the tech companies? The tech workers are the same as any other people and no more proponents of "fueling hate, violence, bigotry, discrimination" as any other group. Anyone can get downsized, and any company can fail, and there are downsizing risks in practically every industry.

    • @cameronzwicke5761
      @cameronzwicke5761 2 года назад +2

      Amen brother.

    • @michaelwills1926
      @michaelwills1926 2 года назад

      @@AussieAmigan the point of the discussion is how tech companies are cutting ties with the poison fruits in their midsts and to be poison fruit you qualify as hateful and stupid, like pretty much all the super mouthy types that go off on tantrums while representing some major business interest. Not good for business, ergo they are rightfully and thankfully being shit canned.

    • @mrgreen3002
      @mrgreen3002 2 года назад +5

      @@AussieAmigan the tech workers chose to work for the tech companies. I hope the tech workers have horrible things happen to them.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +3

      @@mrgreen3002 You honestly think the people working at the tech companies are any different to the people working in your company's IT department?

  • @ninjagirl226
    @ninjagirl226 2 года назад +63

    At my old company the workers bought a $3000 coffee pot; told me that it was to be on par with Starbucks to save people time and money and threw a shit fit to get it.
    A month later over 30% of the company were laid off; unfortunately those who just had to have that stupid coffee were the one group untouched. No one knows what they do. This is what these people are like. Do nothing but demand nice perks.

    • @briansorensen5102
      @briansorensen5102 2 года назад +5

      At my previous company they insisted they had to have a large Redbull vending machine. Free of course, because coffee is free.

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 2 года назад +5

      "It has to be on par with starbucks"?
      It's probably not that hard or expensive to buy good coffee before their shifts or while on break.

    • @LowPing156
      @LowPing156 2 года назад +8

      Why would you need a $3000 coffee pot? That's absurd

    • @ravengrey6874
      @ravengrey6874 2 года назад +2

      @@LowPing156 for a starbucks branded coffee maker, that's on the low end

    • @Danahell
      @Danahell 2 года назад +8

      To be on par with Starbucks? Man that's setting the bar too low.

  • @AL-ws5yi
    @AL-ws5yi 2 года назад +55

    As my parents use to say, money doesn’t grow on trees.

    • @ClownfishTV
      @ClownfishTV  2 года назад +17

      Ah, but trees can BECOME money... if you chop them down... and pulp them... and print money on that paper. Or something. ;)

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 2 года назад +10

      Money comes from paper, and paper comes from trees.

    • @AL-ws5yi
      @AL-ws5yi 2 года назад +10

      @@LuigiTheMetal64 So paper is unprocessed money. Lol

    • @greyroot00
      @greyroot00 2 года назад +2

      @@ClownfishTV isn't usd made of cotton and linen and not papers?

    • @dookie_12
      @dookie_12 2 года назад +4

      Chainsaw and money printer both go BRRRRR.

  • @RAS_Squints
    @RAS_Squints 2 года назад +19

    As a severance package, they will be given red staplers

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 2 года назад +62

    “I took the tech industry’s white knight, and I brought him down to our level. It wasn’t hard; you see profit, as you know, is like gravity; all it takes is a little *push*.” 🤡

    • @gabrielboorom2683
      @gabrielboorom2683 2 года назад +5

      *takes out a Swingline stapler, loads it with staples* "Introduce a little anarchy" *puts the stapler in your hand* "Upset the established order & everything becomes chaos."

  • @googleblockedme5543
    @googleblockedme5543 2 года назад +43

    Isn’t it amazing that if your company doesn’t turn a profit, your company may not be around any more?

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +1

      No but this article(and Clownfish) is blaming the workers who often have very little to do with the profitability of the business.

    • @hollywoodpineapple8337
      @hollywoodpineapple8337 2 года назад +4

      @@AussieAmigan In these here modern days many workers became quite influential in the running of certain companies and how they made money.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +2

      @@hollywoodpineapple8337 The vast majority do not.

  • @Thomas.Wright
    @Thomas.Wright 2 года назад +28

    It was dumb of them to promise to give all employees raises. You never promise blanket raises. Because if your employees don't improve their performance of gain useful experience to the work, then they don't deserve raises, and in fact become a drain on the company's resources.

    • @callak_9974
      @callak_9974 2 года назад +2

      Well, there's nothing wrong with giving just a basic cost of living increase, that'd be a raise. Heck, an extra nickel an hour is a raise, even if it sucks depending on how much you do make already.

  • @professorsponge1554
    @professorsponge1554 2 года назад +57

    Unless the government constantly does bailouts, companies will eventually run out of money

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 2 года назад

      And if they do any more bailouts, inflation runs wild and the money's worthless. Lose-lose.
      The ONLY solution is... wipe out the woke. You know I'm right... >:}

    • @r.l.royalljr.3905
      @r.l.royalljr.3905 2 года назад +9

      Quit giving them ideas!

    • @natehoustman
      @natehoustman 2 года назад +4

      They kinda do, in a way. The Federal Reserve prints money, it goes to commercial banks, and those banks invest in Wall Street stocks. Meanwhile, small businesses have to take out loans for their capital.

    • @johnpglackin345
      @johnpglackin345 2 года назад +1

      No company should get a bail out.

  • @jonnymelamet8029
    @jonnymelamet8029 2 года назад +29

    Basically, the tech bubble is bursting. The notion that every tech company can be a unicorn is over and performance is key when you work in a tech firm.

    • @cane6074
      @cane6074 2 месяца назад

      Tell that to venture capital!

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 2 года назад +13

    Oh, boy. I've been waiting for this to happen. I've been saying that this participation trophy mentality of everyone being a winner just for showing up is gonna meet a swift death at the hands of reality when the music eventually stops. I stocked up on popcorn just for this.

  • @500dollarjapanesetoaster8
    @500dollarjapanesetoaster8 2 года назад +27

    Man, I must be working in the wrong places! I'm in tech, have 2 reviews per year, we speak frankly with one another and get the projects done.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 2 года назад +19

    Every job I've ever worked at, raises were always tied to your job performance. And any advancement was simply an affirmation by the higher ups that you were ready to take on more responsibility, it was never to be thought of as a reward.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +1

      Ha Ha.... Have you ever heard of people being too important to promote? This is a common occurrence.
      "The basic concept of the Dilbert Principle is that the most ineffective workers are systematically moved to the place where they can do the least damage." This typically entails promotion.

  • @stephenshelton4267
    @stephenshelton4267 2 года назад +15

    The nice thing about recessions is that it discourages businesses from wasting money on nonsense.

  • @stanbartsch1984
    @stanbartsch1984 2 года назад +47

    Everyone should have seen this coming - "performance reviews" are a thing, and always have been. They are the way for the company to make sure they keep key employees during lean times, and know which dead weight to cut loose.

    • @Flakey101
      @Flakey101 2 года назад +3

      Only if they are run correctly. In a former job the performance reviews were introduced but they gave the people that sucked up to management the biggest raises, and it did not matter if you were the best in your area, if you did not heavily suck up to management you got shafted. The second year it happened most of the top 10% performers left.

    • @michaelwills1926
      @michaelwills1926 2 года назад

      @@Flakey101 you are correct performance reviews should be standard procedure in any well run organization. The scenario you describe sounds like the worst possible way to run a company, not surprising that the talent walked away.

    • @Quandry1
      @Quandry1 2 года назад

      @@michaelwills1926 unfortunately it is a common way they are run. Another is done by how things look on paper instead of how things are actually performing.

  • @trevitone1111
    @trevitone1111 2 года назад +147

    It's sad this took so long. Im trying to get into the tech industry to be a worker but it seems like some of them are lazy as hell. Thankfully the person I currently work for is amazing and makes sure I learn things before going to school for it.

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 2 года назад +11

      Yeah, be the exception from the rest of them.

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 2 года назад +16

      Just look at the IRS. Laziness is epidemic. More digital tax forms than ever, but they're further behind at processing than ever. When everyone submitted paper returns, they usually took 2 months at most to completely finish. Now, they still have several million to complete 4 months later.

    • @JinKazama1993
      @JinKazama1993 2 года назад +7

      Of course we are lazy. We are ALL so lazy, last week I made a bot to send emails to every team member with an analysis of previous days commit. Bot asked if they understand whats happening. If they answer No, bot asks which commit is hard. Team member responds with the commits name. Bot sends the commit and explain it in plain english.
      Needless to say, my entire team wanted the code to run it 😛
      This is the average tech worker. We are so lazy, we create bots to take our place in team meetings 😂 dunno why some people think ya got to work hard, none of us work hard, we work smart 😛
      Ps. I got a side hustle, I make scripts/bots for people, if you need my services 😂

    • @JinKazama1993
      @JinKazama1993 2 года назад +10

      Ps. Got some bad news for you. If you are not lazy, you will be depressed and burnout in less than a year. Industry does that to newbies. Do NOT be overzealous. Be smart. Take your breaks. Relax. etc. Our job needs brains.if you are tired, you are useless to everyone.

    • @jonnymelamet8029
      @jonnymelamet8029 2 года назад +1

      @@Alondro77 I don't get this. HMRC in the UK has digital tax forms and is making it mandatory over the next few years. Processing in instantaneous. If numbers jump out as inconsistent or possibly fraudulent, then HMRC needs to deal with it, but otherwise processing in instantaneous.

  • @scribblerjones
    @scribblerjones 2 года назад +19

    Well, how about that. Tech companies are going back to requiring employees to earn their keep. I watched this video while hearing "Welcome to the Jungle" in my head.
    What really tickled me pink was the fact that this news has some people (the ones who "deserve" to have jobs in tech) shaking and crying. I mean, imagine having to put in the work if you want that raise - or to keep that job at all. Such a *terrifying* thought. I can hear the journos furiously typing out "Miss Oginee" and "Bigg O. Tree" being the culprits behind this "toxic" trend.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 2 года назад +2

      I am reminded of the bit in office space where the protagonist explains "Do just enough work not to get fired." It seems these folks aren't used to needing to meet that basic standard of employment. Talk about cutting dead weight, good lord why aren't the investors doing an investigation into how that practice got stopped?

  • @nickw3867
    @nickw3867 2 года назад +37

    Working in tech is a living demonstration of the Paredo principle. You'd be *shocked* at the names and scale of companies who rely on 5 or 6 people to run around and source all the major designs. And maybe more shocked to find out that those 5 or 6 people are not visible on the org charts

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 2 года назад +4

      My last decade has amazed me by how the administrative layers respond to good times by growing and to bad times by growing. Totally unrelated to revenue generating functions, just making reports to each other all day.

    • @kaiserpuppydog7174
      @kaiserpuppydog7174 2 года назад +3

      Org charts at large companies are a company's office politics hierarchy, not one of competence.

    • @enrique6335
      @enrique6335 2 года назад +1

      @@RN1441 This is where the fat needs to be trimmed. Too many administrative positions that just slow everyone ese down

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 2 года назад

      @@enrique6335 Sadly, they're the ones who decide who is essential.

  • @roboguy75
    @roboguy75 2 года назад +34

    I actually recently got into the IT field as a field technician but for the most part we still work our asses off. Even my boss was impressed I got 5 deployments done in one day. Meaning I would survive longer than these lazy bums.

    • @jewymchoser
      @jewymchoser 2 года назад

      Did they fire the lazy bums or keep them because they had no other option?

    • @roboguy75
      @roboguy75 2 года назад +11

      @@jewymchoser actually the good thing is we have no lazy bums. It’s a relatively small to medium sized company but for the most part everyone pulls their weight. Hell if one of us is having trouble we message each other to help solve whatever issue we’re having. So essentially my company has more competent people who actually put fucking effort into their work, regardless what their role is.

    • @jewymchoser
      @jewymchoser 2 года назад +3

      @@roboguy75 sounds like you found a great place!

    • @FrankZen
      @FrankZen 2 года назад +1

      Not necessarily a given. Politics gets in the way of reason a lot of times!

    • @FrankZen
      @FrankZen 2 года назад

      @@roboguy75 ahhh yeah then you're good...

  • @Lyokou
    @Lyokou 2 года назад +56

    I work in tech and I have had a couple performance reviews. The problem is so many of us have our salary skyrocket faster than a company can respond. So once that’s done we might be out the door somewhere else, or if we don’t get a large enough raise, we’re soon out the door somewhere else. There’s a lot of turn over and the demand for us has just been insane these last few years.
    I had a review four years ago and it was like 5% or something. I got an offer somewhere else that gave me 43%. Basically every move I’ve made since is a double digit increase. I moved again a couple months ago, another 23% raise.

    • @bobmcbobson8368
      @bobmcbobson8368 2 года назад

      Sad thing is objectively, most tech workers are pretty useless

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +6

      Good. That's how a free market should work. The pay should be good as the tech industry is a volatile one, and you probably had to invest in appropriate schooling to be eligible.
      As an aside, it's unfortunate however that companies have a tendency not to appreciate the talented staff they already have and will always hire fresh blood rather than promote in house.

    • @wvanyar1801
      @wvanyar1801 2 года назад

      @@AussieAmigan, we promote from in house a lot. Two guys on the server team were PC techs. A temp guy hat was just stripping gear for E-Waste got hired as a PC tech. Another IT person moved into a management position. Our normal employee retention is 5 to 10 years. Quite often the people that jump ship end back up at our doorstep within 2 to 3 years. That old saying that the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence is true.

  • @MrBiggles53
    @MrBiggles53 2 года назад +18

    If 20% of the people do 80% of the work, then give raises to that 20% of the top producers. Equality of opportunity to excel can and often does result in inequality of outcome. Rewarding productivity is fair and encourages people to do their best; treating everyone the same, regardless of their performances encourages everyone to do the minimum or skate by trusting that someone ekse will pick up the slack.

  • @bigjohn2811
    @bigjohn2811 2 года назад +18

    What happens to the tech workers that aren't meeting goals and get fired. Will they need to learn to code?

    • @rickyrayrosenberg420
      @rickyrayrosenberg420 2 года назад +10

      hell - if you have seen the code bases of some of these companies - they actually do need to learn to code

  • @francisty139
    @francisty139 2 года назад +4

    Tech Companies are actually places where you are supposed to work?

  • @mikkelnpetersen
    @mikkelnpetersen 2 года назад +8

    This reminds me of an episode of Recess, where the goverment removed recess and then didn't understand why the students effectiveness declined, when their predictions clearly stated that they would've improved, but then had the genius idea of adding a timeframe during the school day to let the childrent outside to play, and in their genius they called this new invention "recess".

  • @twistedpuppetOG
    @twistedpuppetOG 2 года назад +15

    This not doing performance reviews at tech companies is news to me. I need to run and tell my former employers that they owe me lots of monies because they weren't supposed to be doing performance reviews. Zomg

  • @rafaelmauricio8000
    @rafaelmauricio8000 2 года назад +131

    I'm just loving these Kneon. At least three vids in one day and each one informative and make me aware times up for some comfy positions. 🤪

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 2 года назад +1

      Give him a raise and good boy points.

    • @TwiStedReality1313
      @TwiStedReality1313 2 года назад

      @@mikecampos1193 lol.. as a married man, I can get behind this message.

  • @sniperic1
    @sniperic1 2 года назад +3

    I was a COBOL programmer for 24 years, and every year I had a performance review. However I worked for rather large companies like the Insurance, retail and they always had a bottom line. So how are these guys not getting a review? What tech workers are we talking about ?

  • @codyconnor6981
    @codyconnor6981 2 года назад +4

    You mean these people who’ve had a free ride will now have to actually work like the rest of us?

  • @TacDyne
    @TacDyne 2 года назад +5

    The last studio I worked at had a serious issue happen and funds dropped miserably short. I was the only one to volunteer taking a 25% pay cut as an immediate solution. The test remedy the owner took was to stop all salaries and go to a piece work model. I ended up making 3 times the amount I was previously making while salaried and every other employee took a 70% to 95% pay cut due to their lack of productivity. I saw this coming, and it was pretty eye opening for the owner. They were eventually fired and the studio downsized to just 4 people to keep running.
    After the layoffs I asked if we could go back to salaries to help save money. :)
    We ended up closing the office and working remotely for another year. Was casual and we actually made great progress while working this way.
    If your company can't pay, sacrifices must be made. The loudest complainers were the weakest links who contributed next to nothing while demanding equal pay. Well, when employees are like this, they end up unemployed, either via firings, or company closures.

  • @derbuckeyetribe9789
    @derbuckeyetribe9789 2 года назад +3

    Be smart, Work Smart, Work Hard. I'm not working at the moment because I am taking care of an elderly parent and I am coasting on smart investments / savings, and the fact that I've been mostly debt free for years. I also have a Class A CDL with endorsements and an enviable safety record. A truck driver, with skills and experience that is in high demand. When the time comes I will be interviewing the companies trying to hire me. No more wage slavery for me.

  • @dany-ps2my
    @dany-ps2my 2 года назад +5

    I remember being told to learn to code, glad i didn't 😂😂😂

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +3

      Nah. It's a shit job.... Even after 25 years of it. Any knowledge older than 10 years is obsolete and if you're not on the latest buzzword tech fashion(which is a reinvention of the wheel by some millennial) the moment it comes out you fall behind and out of demand. Indeed most of the time you take a cut in remuneration just to get experience in the new thing to remain somewhat relevant. Not that I haven't been paid moderately well over the years and had the ability to experience work in different countries. That said, knowing what I know now, I still wouldn't recommend it.
      ANNNNDDDD!!! That's before you consider no-code platforms which are growing in prominence. So even coding won't be a thing one day soon. Idiots.

  • @Optimusj1975
    @Optimusj1975 2 года назад +5

    OHMEGEE!!!! That wiill disturb the community. Without trust on the coworkers how people will turn into professionals? Next thing will be HR not gatekeeping the hirings?

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 2 года назад +4

    “Whaddya mean, money doesn’t grow on trees?” 🤑

  • @chrisw207
    @chrisw207 2 года назад +9

    What blasphamy is that. I didn't get a performance review for pver 15 years at my old jonb. Probably why everything ran like shit.

  • @justmeok2
    @justmeok2 2 года назад +6

    What kind of job did this people had?? Lmaoo, its like the writing rooms in DC that fail upwards

  • @Grabthar191
    @Grabthar191 2 года назад +3

    Recessions and wars tend to weed out the chaff and BS.

  • @douglasarthur2673
    @douglasarthur2673 2 года назад +2

    Value For Money = Economy; Efficiency; Effectiveness ! I’m a VFM Auditor so it looks like I’m going to be busy. 🥳

  • @dayvin408
    @dayvin408 2 года назад +4

    So basically it's time for these tech companies to grow up???

  • @bruceparrish6576
    @bruceparrish6576 2 года назад +7

    In the real world you have to bring in more then you get paid. It’s that simple

    • @risingofthethorn1197
      @risingofthethorn1197 2 года назад

      which Is why I'm trying to go independent. "A man has the right to the fruits of his labor...except when he's working under contract that allows his masters to take 90%"

  • @SilverPhantomX
    @SilverPhantomX 2 года назад +18

    Damn! ClownFishTV is on a roll today with these back-to-back videos.

  • @jusiceigi48651
    @jusiceigi48651 2 года назад +3

    Thing I hated about being a software engineer was my boss got credit for what our team did. While he did nothing but his bosses didn't understand what we did cause they didn't know anything about software and trusted him 100%. Why wondering why all the engineers were quitting. I don't miss that job at all.

    • @ClownfishTV
      @ClownfishTV  2 года назад +4

      That happened to me too. :-/

    • @jusiceigi48651
      @jusiceigi48651 2 года назад +2

      @@ClownfishTV sorry to hear that but glad you now do these videos! Thanks for your hard work!

    • @navylaks2
      @navylaks2 2 года назад +1

      Same here

  • @superdave8248
    @superdave8248 2 года назад +3

    The problem with annual reviews ...
    First, they serve no purpose unless somebody is looking to terminate you. If a manager doesn't like you or your performance you will get a bad review which will then be used against you when your employment is terminated.
    Two, too many managers don't want to be the bad guy. So everybody gets a good annual review. If you ever came in early on a deadline, 5 out of 5. If you made the majority of your deadlines 4 out of 5. If you barely did your job, 4 out of 5. If you sucked at your job, 3 or 4 out of five.

  • @nalrog297
    @nalrog297 2 года назад +3

    been in IT for 48 years had performance reviews and redundancies at every company. mind you that i have never work at "big tech"

  • @kurbnajung1386
    @kurbnajung1386 2 года назад +5

    It is almost impossible to lose a federal job. They're covered.

  • @paulwolfley7785
    @paulwolfley7785 2 года назад +8

    Turns out that those social justice virtue credits don't pay the bills 😆

    • @500dollarjapanesetoaster8
      @500dollarjapanesetoaster8 2 года назад +2

      Guaranteed, half of Twitter is superfluous.

    • @paulwolfley7785
      @paulwolfley7785 2 года назад +1

      @@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 when Eric July started to get a lot of comic purchases lefties started saying they were just right wing bots, someone said it seems the right wing 'bots' seem to have a lot more money than the left... they changed the talking points

  • @donutbevil9669
    @donutbevil9669 2 года назад +5

    What? I'm shocked! Shocked!
    Okay, not that shocked.

  • @manicpixiefangirl4189
    @manicpixiefangirl4189 2 года назад +1

    My last job had performance reviews. It was a dog kennel. What the hell were these companies doing?

  • @McRakns
    @McRakns 2 года назад +1

    I worked for tech companies for 17 yrs and raises have been always determined based on performance

  • @primmakinsofis614
    @primmakinsofis614 2 года назад +2

    Presumably the workers who were hired for reasons other than skill and talent will be the first to receive their severance notice.

  • @rjwilcox2826
    @rjwilcox2826 2 года назад +1

    I used to live in Pittsburgh. I interviewed for a job and they said that they wanted to hire me but they were in the process of moving so they would contact me when they moved. It was like 3 months after my interview that I received a call that they finished the move and wanted me to start working. Three months! I told them that I accepted another job and could not work for them. The person on the other end of the phone started yelling and swearing at me for not waiting, again 3 months. Bullet dodged.

  • @WEKM
    @WEKM 2 года назад +2

    "What exactly, is it, that you do here?"
    The incantation to immediately summon a pink slip for the target.

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 2 года назад +10

    Likes on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok can never be converted into dollar bills.

  • @martabachynsky8545
    @martabachynsky8545 2 года назад +1

    Hurray for meritocracy! Pay based on hard work and skill. 👍🏼

  • @wolfsokaya
    @wolfsokaya 2 года назад

    How can they expect people to work at their job? When would they have time to tweet about how unfair it is that companies expect people to work at their job!
    How barbaric!

  • @2001Tavis
    @2001Tavis 2 года назад +2

    Oh-oh 😳 are the investors looking at their bank ? 💰😏

  • @gregnulik1975
    @gregnulik1975 2 года назад +5

    Reminds me of a 'spirit aerosystems workers photo', so bored they have beds next to their workstations, while people like me have dozens of ideas.

  • @andyknolls8735
    @andyknolls8735 2 года назад +1

    we have been in one of the longest bull markets ever. That has now ended, they won't know how to survive.

  • @TheMattTrakker
    @TheMattTrakker 2 года назад +2

    If it's still an offer, then wouldn't that mean it's outstanding. Why would you quit your job before accepting that new one?

  • @JH-ks9oi
    @JH-ks9oi 2 года назад +2

    Damn these people wouldn't make it one day on my construction surveying crew... I never asked my men to do somethin at work I myself wouldn't do... If you expect respect from your crew, you better damn well get in the mud with em, you better damn well work the same hours, take the same risks and lead by example, you're gonna have bad crews and shotty work results

  • @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers
    @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers 2 года назад +1

    You mean the audience we've openly mocking and accusing of being terrible people for years are the same people we need to pay the bills?! This is an outrageous and bigoted attack against us, the true victims here!

  • @umbraelegios4130
    @umbraelegios4130 2 года назад +4

    Real World: It does it's job or it gets fired.

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux 2 года назад +14

    Hmmm, the IT space I entered in the early 2000s on the heals of the fallout from the .COM bubble bursting was very cut throat with people getting fired just for not formatting a help desk ticket correctly and then there was all the back stabbing in office politics. Since then, for all the IT jobs I've had, I have never had the luxury of being lazy for anything. Even if the decade of "endless money" I have had to work my tail off just to stay afloat in the mountain of work I need to do. I've heard about those IT jobs where people can go in and be lazy or what ever and still get paid, but I've never experienced it. Most people who come to work with me usually go through several stages of shock when they find out how busy we are and most realize they can't handle it. About 90% of them don't last 90 days.
    As an experienced tech worker, when I hear about these mass layoffs of tech workers or the tightening of the belt for them, it just the same old story that companies view IT workers as commodities that they don't really need. For those us who really do the work, IT is one of the most difficult and stressful fields to be in. It is relentless with demands of the job from the constant calls for help, to working long nights to fix/maintain systems, to being on call 24/7, and every time you do something well enough, you just get more work piled on top of you without so much of a thank you outside of your department. That's the actual reality of those who put their life into the field doing a thankless job....and then even people like us get axed when the companies need to cut expenses because companies need software and hardware more than people. Such is life.
    The IT workers like me who do the actual work get burned out...a lot. This nonsense of people just now finding out that IT is hard and requires a lot of work will never make any sense to me.
    All that said, when a company promises raises for everyone and then pulls back...that's a dick move. When a company has overworked IT workers and cuts back or stops giving them raises, that is also a dick move (and this happens a LOT more than people think it does). When a company cuts back on IT funding, and still gives big bonuses to upper management, that company becomes a meat grinder for the IT folks still there and IMO will be nothing more than "just a job to work at" and nothing more. When all these things happen in IT, it's not always just seeing the lazy people not being able to not be lazy anymore, it really hurts a lot of IT workers who really do the impossible jobs they are tasked with. When new people enter IT, many end up not being able to hack it when it hits the fan like it is now. It's just unusual that it took this long for the "endless money" to run out.
    When you talk about requiring IT workers to "perform" be very careful about what that actually looks like as the vast majority of people have no idea what real IT work is like and it really depends on the situation at that specific company. If a company really does have too many hands, I would argue the work most likely isn't getting spread out among all the employees evenly and you most likely have a few overworked high performers before you actually have too many hands.

    • @latenightmp7978
      @latenightmp7978 2 года назад +2

      Nothing like your crew getting cut down despite the fact the management decided to give each other another raise.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +2

      I just watched that "Silicon Valley" (comedy) TV show and there were people that were benched at a major corporation pretty much slacking off on the roof for the remainder of their contracts. I've never experienced that in my 25 years of tech work, 4 of which in California, around but not in, Silicon Valley. In my experience you're either doing greenfields project work or maintenance, with the project work usually having deadlines that are incredibly taxing, and maintenance work being more about a work/life balance. When at a consulting company, and on the bench, there were usually many internal projects that would be worked on. I've never really experienced anyone being a slacker in IT. There are people that just can't do that work, but I wouldn't question their work ethic.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +1

      @@latenightmp7978 Nothing like watching your project get cut and watching management flail about when they can't get an alternative from an external vendor working, and then having to cough up more and more for less functionality than we promised.

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 2 года назад +1

    Price’s Law - where 10% of the workers (hot shots) are doing half the work to keep the company going and the other 90% are doing the other 50%.
    10% knows where everything is and who to call.

  • @danielruiz3176
    @danielruiz3176 2 года назад +1

    I’m glad this is happening. I was taught when I was child, what ever job I do when I grow up to take pride in it and always give 110%.

  • @Bladedcloud6159
    @Bladedcloud6159 2 года назад +1

    You'd be surprised on how many stories I've heard of tech people having to work as if they're 3-4 people due to coworkers being incompetent or lazy and they haven't been fired.

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 2 года назад

    Everyday I'm shocked that Fundamental Principles have to be SPELLED OUT to these Stupid STUPID People....and yet it keeps happening....

  • @dwood78part23
    @dwood78part23 2 года назад +4

    Looks like these tech firms are going to have to act like actual businesses now.

    • @dwood78part23
      @dwood78part23 2 года назад

      @@Attmay Oh yeah. I remember the Dot-com Bubble real well & how it almost took down the Tech Biz.

  • @brandonandcharlene9527
    @brandonandcharlene9527 2 года назад +4

    I only hope it's true. I've worked in banking for 20+ years. Always have a performance review each year, but it is a meaningless exercise. If the company is profitable everyone gets a raise. If not, only senior managers do.

  • @ViperChief117
    @ViperChief117 2 года назад +5

    In most industries these days people seem to fail upwards. XD

  • @juraihoshi
    @juraihoshi 2 года назад +2

    Wow, this kind of suggests this generation is out of touch with reality. Imagine that.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад

      Or perhaps the article is exaggerating, which is just as likely. Probably a bit of both.

    • @juraihoshi
      @juraihoshi 2 года назад

      @@AussieAmigan Not really. I'm a business owner. My sarcasm comes from seeing this same exact thing for myself.

  • @ericneo2
    @ericneo2 2 года назад +7

    People at walmart don't have to work unpaid nights and weekends to keep the systems working 24/7.
    Manager: We see you've consistently gone above and beyond to help the company and perform great, BUT we feel you don't exemplify our values...
    Performance based means KPIs, and in every case where KPIs have been the focus over service or staff the company has suffered or collapsed.

  • @natehoustman
    @natehoustman 2 года назад +2

    I'll never forget ItsAGundam's video 3 or 4 weeks ago about some 22-year-old chick who "works" at a tech company, but all she does is go to meetings and eat snacks. The comments section was educational, all these foo-foo employees who do nothing but post to social media are propped up by IT contractors solving problems in the background 12 hours a day.

  • @guillermomelendez7950
    @guillermomelendez7950 2 года назад +4

    Let's just hope "performance" doesn't mean activism, I saw a Dr. Debrah Soh clip today on IG talking to some guy and how now as part of hiring process they not only look into experience and knowledge but also how involved in social causes people are, granted they were talking about teaching positions but you know how it is, trends don't discriminate fields.

  • @tarotreadingsbysteven8545
    @tarotreadingsbysteven8545 2 года назад +1

    I hate this current workforce environment. Not only are the customer rude but I have to pull the weight of all my lazy coworkers who are also rude. Like I do the work of two to three people but still only get paid for one with no raise or chance to move up in sight.

  • @JinKazama1993
    @JinKazama1993 2 года назад +3

    Bad news for people that want tech workers to be underpaid. My annual salary is 160k. Im in this company for less than a year... Sure, there are people that got fired. But this shit happens litetally everywhere nowadays.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад

      Just curious how much tech experience you have, what your role is, if it's a fortune 500 company and where you are located?

    • @JinKazama1993
      @JinKazama1993 2 года назад

      @@AussieAmigan working as a tech worker bit less than 3 years total. Im the the senior of my current team. Yes, but NOT a FAANG company. Im working remote from EU.
      You got any other questions you want me to answer?

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад

      @@JinKazama1993 No, just wanted to congratulate you on doing so well so quickly. But if I may ask, are you a software developer and is so I'm just curious on what tech are you using so I may potentially update my skill-set. 😀

    • @JinKazama1993
      @JinKazama1993 2 года назад

      @@AussieAmigan I had to learn pretty much anything the company uses. Thats why they pay us a shitload of $ and we are being treated like that. We constantly need to "update" our knowledge.
      If you are a newcomer to the industry, you should learn at least know react and php. Then you learn based on current companys needs.

  • @Omi_Kasigi
    @Omi_Kasigi 2 года назад +6

    We do performance (assessment) reviews monthly. Then that is tallied for the whole year and it determines your raise when the yearly employee review comes up. I find it funny that most westerners find this ridiculous. Maybe its because I work for a Japanese company that has a totally different work ethic than most western companies.

    • @AussieAmigan
      @AussieAmigan 2 года назад

      A lot of tech work can't easily be put in metrics, and are usually conducted face to face. If tech companies had to do performance reviews monthly that'd be all they'd be doing.

  • @gate7clamp
    @gate7clamp 2 года назад +1

    How is this even news this is basic common sense for any company

  • @_MikeJon_
    @_MikeJon_ 2 года назад +6

    Um, someone just has to write the check? Why is this so hard to understand. Someone writes my checks, signs them and puts it in my bank account. That's how it works, right?

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 2 года назад +3

      Well...about that...

  • @billmelater6470
    @billmelater6470 2 года назад +1

    They also probably think that it's their employer's fault if they can't keep up with inflation. Halfwits...

  • @johnnychcr
    @johnnychcr 2 года назад

    I remember one person, after the raise and promotions period, saying "I should get a raise because I'm always on time"...... All of us stood their with a big "wtf" look in our faces...

  • @gaiali453
    @gaiali453 2 года назад +2

    In our engineering teams, we've never kept anyone that wasn't performing. As far as Shopify goes, they made a killing during the pandemic but not anymore since stores are open now. Anyone that says I.T is east money has never worked I.T in their lives. It can suck the life out of you if you let it.

  • @kittenangel797
    @kittenangel797 2 года назад +2

    Companies always run out of money. Sometimes it happens to the best of us. 😞

  • @Kooster69
    @Kooster69 2 года назад +2

    Tech workers have to finally take the blue pill. Welcome to how most companies operate.

  • @buda3d2007
    @buda3d2007 2 года назад +3

    This might tamper some of the fulltime online activits on Twitter and Reddit, however I think reddit has an army of american public school employees who aggressivley support the current thing.

  • @AussieAmigan
    @AussieAmigan 2 года назад +4

    Having worked as a software engineer at Tech Companies in my 25 year career, scheduled performance reviews were always a constant, even when I worked in California. What happens however is that everyone is working so hard and under so much pressure that nobody has time to do them, so they get pushed out and are sometimes forgotten. They're useless anyway and just create stress in what is usually an already stressful environment. If your manager is any good they will already know who is delivering and who isn't. Having worked as a project manger, getting pressured from above, telling someone their performance is sub par, and their job is in jeopardy, is hard to do, and you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have never seen exemplary work ever appreciated beyond "attaboy"s and pay rises come automatically through tenure more than success. The only pay rises worth a damn are when you change companies or threaten to.

  • @drivethrupoet
    @drivethrupoet 2 года назад +6

    dangit you are making me appreciate my employer even though I feel like I'm being worked to death.

  • @izzymcgee2527
    @izzymcgee2527 2 года назад +1

    Maybe if RUclips didn't constantly sabotage it's own users it would actually make more money.

  • @geckoo9190
    @geckoo9190 2 года назад +2

    Well they promised a rise to everyone, I think that they should give a small rise to everyone, but also a larger rise to everyone who had a good performance review.

  • @richardm3023
    @richardm3023 2 года назад

    Now...if only we could get Government workers and teachers to work for pay that matches their output.

  • @PShawtx
    @PShawtx 2 года назад

    Why did it take the venture capitalists so long to figure out to stop throw money in to those companies that were not making any money.