Wow, thank you for blessing my eyes with this masterpiece of a machine. Here I was thinking I was cool designing a cable management upgrade for a creality Ender 6. We truly stand on the shoulders of giants. My Jaw is on the floor, keep up the amazing progress on this soo much more than beautiful machine!
Yeah, it's pretty harsh on these rails. I'm mostly concerned about the x-axis rail but I haven't run into any issues yet. I am running rails that came in a formbot kit but on the x-axis I'm using an mgn7 from CNA with a medium preload. Eventually I'll spring for some properly engineered Japanese rails like IKO, NSK or Hiwin
What was that first layer speed (apart from too fast)? I've watched a lot of high speed printing videos, and actually laughed out loud a couple of times watching this one.
That's! Obviously this is far from perfect, at this point it's just silly but it will get to the point of being practical given some more time for development. It's just that the first layer was too close. I left it pretty squished to make sure I had good adhesion because my build plate is uneven. There's not much else to do atm without spending $100 to replace it 🤷
I wonder if to reduce the weight of the head, you could plumb high pressure air from a thin tube, supplied by a compressor. Just run it down with the other cabling and have a light printed distribution block.
Thanks, I designed it myself. I removed the part cooling fans from the head to reduce weight. There are 6040 fans mounted to the frame to provide part cooling
What's the use of such a speed if the extruder can't keep up? Apart from producing garbage.... Nice performance of the motion system, but the extruder failed.
It's a work in progress my friend. Long story short, it's not an extruder issue. It's actually an issue with the frequency response of the frame. I've since resolved these issue, I'll share a video on the root cause and solution soon
@@fail_fast I'd love to see it print nice at that speed. That's honestly amazing. I'm currently building a 2.4 but I'm afraid the size difference would make it impossible to print that fast with that huge gantry :) Good luck with the tuning and I look forward to see the results!!
Thanks, I think @Josh Murrah did a low 5 minute benchy on a 300 or 350 2.4 so it definitely is possible to print reasonably fast with such a big gantry. Granted he was running 48v and the mantis toolhead which is much lighter than afterburner. Anyways, have fun with the build! Most of time it's better to have a workhorse than a one trick Pony 😉
@@fail_fast I've heard some weird noises when it was doing the 1st layer, very similar to the noises my machine did with NEMA 23 steppers on TMC2208s (SpreadCycle which I assume you're using if you're running TMCs of any form, the NEMA 23s refused to turn at all in SteathChop), turns out my steppers were resonating both mechanically and electrically. That made me lose steps and such, but the problem was it happened when moving at like 40~60mm/s... Couldn't even use the machine. Glad your steppers don't do the exact same (specially the part of losing steps), that is if it's even what I'm thinking, but interesting to see it anyway.
These voron hyperspeed prints are confusing... Like, I get it, you have a stepper with such low resistance that you can move it at lightspeed but whats the point when your prints look like garbage? Isnt the name of the game to get the best quality print in the shortest time possible? I dont understand the point of putting print quality to the wayside just to show off how fast the steppers can move a relatively light mass around at warp speed.
Think of speedruns of games (if you care about that, that is...). You're not enjoying half of what was coded into the game, all the effort put into the graphics and so on, all so you rush as fast as possible to it's end, completing just as much as the category you're running for requires. Why that? Cause that's fun for speedrunners. Same for drag racing. You spend months and thousands into a car that will race for literally a few seconds - the less the better - and it might need rebuilding quite some stuff when it reaches that end of the quarter mile.
meanwhile i can barely get my first layer to stick @ 30mm/s sheesh
you may have noticed first layer wast perfect either 😉
Wow, thank you for blessing my eyes with this masterpiece of a machine.
Here I was thinking I was cool designing a cable management upgrade for a creality Ender 6.
We truly stand on the shoulders of giants.
My Jaw is on the floor, keep up the amazing progress on this soo much more than beautiful machine!
what kind of linear rails did you use? I can't imagine that they'll be able to do this for so long.
Yeah, it's pretty harsh on these rails. I'm mostly concerned about the x-axis rail but I haven't run into any issues yet.
I am running rails that came in a formbot kit but on the x-axis I'm using an mgn7 from CNA with a medium preload. Eventually I'll spring for some properly engineered Japanese rails like IKO, NSK or Hiwin
You were right....
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what motors, stepsticks, mobo and voltage are you running? Kudos!
What was that first layer speed (apart from too fast)?
I've watched a lot of high speed printing videos, and actually laughed out loud a couple of times watching this one.
That's! Obviously this is far from perfect, at this point it's just silly but it will get to the point of being practical given some more time for development. It's just that the first layer was too close. I left it pretty squished to make sure I had good adhesion because my build plate is uneven. There's not much else to do atm without spending $100 to replace it 🤷
You should at the end of each video show a close up of build quality... I just saw one of your shorts and these videos are fascinating
How many watts is that hot end running at to be able to melt the volume of filament it's putting out?
I'm in danger
Man this is wild to watch
I wonder if to reduce the weight of the head, you could plumb high pressure air from a thin tube, supplied by a compressor. Just run it down with the other cabling and have a light printed distribution block.
Need some additional frame stabilization at those speeds
I haven't seen that version/mod of the mini afterburner. Would love to see what it looks like from the side. What does it have for cooling fans?
Thanks, I designed it myself. I removed the part cooling fans from the head to reduce weight. There are 6040 fans mounted to the frame to provide part cooling
@@fail_fast Thats allot of fans
@@ioangogov2993 6040 is the size not the quantity 60x60x40mm
@@futuremapper_ Over 6 thousand fans would like hella funny tho
why is so loud???
Hell ya.
Look at it go.
🤘
3-d printer go brrrrrrrrr
How much did your printer cost?
That heart on your comment is kind of equivalent to the answer "yes"
What temp is your hot end at?
You should do a vase
good idea! I'll do one next! Pretty busy at work rn -I'll get a video out in a couple days
What's the use of such a speed if the extruder can't keep up? Apart from producing garbage.... Nice performance of the motion system, but the extruder failed.
It's a work in progress my friend. Long story short, it's not an extruder issue. It's actually an issue with the frequency response of the frame. I've since resolved these issue, I'll share a video on the root cause and solution soon
@@fail_fast I'd love to see it print nice at that speed. That's honestly amazing. I'm currently building a 2.4 but I'm afraid the size difference would make it impossible to print that fast with that huge gantry :) Good luck with the tuning and I look forward to see the results!!
Thanks, I think @Josh Murrah did a low 5 minute benchy on a 300 or 350 2.4 so it definitely is possible to print reasonably fast with such a big gantry. Granted he was running 48v and the mantis toolhead which is much lighter than afterburner. Anyways, have fun with the build! Most of time it's better to have a workhorse than a one trick Pony 😉
@@fail_fast I've heard some weird noises when it was doing the 1st layer, very similar to the noises my machine did with NEMA 23 steppers on TMC2208s (SpreadCycle which I assume you're using if you're running TMCs of any form, the NEMA 23s refused to turn at all in SteathChop), turns out my steppers were resonating both mechanically and electrically. That made me lose steps and such, but the problem was it happened when moving at like 40~60mm/s... Couldn't even use the machine. Glad your steppers don't do the exact same (specially the part of losing steps), that is if it's even what I'm thinking, but interesting to see it anyway.
Name " earthquake ".
😁
It takes a distance of 25mm to reach that speed, which you very rarely actually have on this print except for the edges maybe
Prusa calculator says it take 10mm at those settings.
@@youngster30uk I used 50k accel and 1000mm/s speed and the same calculator, idk could be wrong or something
@@wage4598 it shows 25mm to get to 1000mm/s at 20k acceleration
Hi, it takes 10mm to reach 1000mm/s at 50k 😊 I did the calculations twice, even derived them myself to be sure 🤓
These voron hyperspeed prints are confusing... Like, I get it, you have a stepper with such low resistance that you can move it at lightspeed but whats the point when your prints look like garbage? Isnt the name of the game to get the best quality print in the shortest time possible? I dont understand the point of putting print quality to the wayside just to show off how fast the steppers can move a relatively light mass around at warp speed.
Think of speedruns of games (if you care about that, that is...). You're not enjoying half of what was coded into the game, all the effort put into the graphics and so on, all so you rush as fast as possible to it's end, completing just as much as the category you're running for requires.
Why that? Cause that's fun for speedrunners. Same for drag racing. You spend months and thousands into a car that will race for literally a few seconds - the less the better - and it might need rebuilding quite some stuff when it reaches that end of the quarter mile.