Here are 3 ways to instantly get those SWEET 70s drum sounds
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- I'm a huge fan of classic drum tones from the 1970s ... those thuddy, beefy, deep, dead sounds that can be heard on so many albums from that era. Here are 3 ways to access those sweet, buttery tones pretty quickly and how I go about recording them.
1. Cloth taped to the edge of the drum head
2. Cover the entire drumhead with cloth
3. Rolled-up pieces of tape placed around the perimeter of the drumhead
Remember, it's all about finding the balance between "too dead" and "too much ring" ... listen for the low end (the fundamental) in the drum!
Let me know about your favorite way to get these tones, even if it's not on the list!
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Oh wow, a real 70's man with a 70's stach, rocking a 70's drumkit in his 70's
Lol
Fucking KEK
Ron swanson style
50 years ago
He looks like a young Ron Swanson
Felipe Vasquez love it!
My first time here, my very first thought. True.
@@mrmoonpsic LOL
And sounds not unlike Kenny Powers😁
I knew I recognized him lol
“You never go full 70’s”
That moustache says otherwise.
haha! touche ...
Just by seeing the thumbnail I thought "That mustache MUST be one of the three ways".
LOL
Ohhhhh maaan the tortillas sound so goood
love them.
@@JakeReedmusic where di you buy those cloths
Tortilla. Lol. Waste of fucking money. A fucking tampon would do the same job. I swear, they can market any ol shit and suckers will buy it. It's essentially a fucking rag.
@@alanduncan1980 bro if it’s so easy to do why don’t you do it?
the moustache... you forgot the moustache... it absorbs the high frequencies that bounce around, giving the lo-fi effect.
Dangit! Gotta redo the whole thing now.
All of the tape and muffling has nothing to do with your achievement of great 70's tone. It's quite simply that, that miraculous mustache has magical powers.
LOL
I’m not a drummer, I’m an engineer. I’ve learned a lot. Thanks
Happy to help!
If you're an engineer and you've never heard of this untill just now then you're not an engineer. You remind me of one of those guys on the job site that claims to be an electrician but never seen someone twist wires before capping with a wire nut. Don't claim to be something you're not. It's pretty disrespectful to the people who worked to become what you're out there claiming.
@@TempoDrift1480 I didn’t intend to hurt your feelings and feelings of community. Now you exposed me and I’ll go kill myself. You’ll continue with all the disrespect I left on you with my initial comment.
@@TempoDrift1480 You sound like an asshole. Putting someone down for wanting to learn something new. And you say they were 'disrespectful'? Get a grip my guy
@@TempoDrift1480 you had a bad day or ..?
"You never go full 70's" had me dying
LOL thanks!
Any musician who communicates in onomatopaeia, made-up words, and looped gaffes is my kinda musician. Great video, parfuffle.
Yaaaay!!!
That's how you write onomatopoeia in english? weird, i didn't know
Dumbass me searched parfuffle on google thinking it is a real word 💀
Even though “70s drum sounds” are almost cliche, this is exactly what I wanna watch. So good.
merchannel yay! Yeah, it’s kind of funny that we say “70s” anyway since not *everything* from that decade sounds muffled and low but alas everyone knows exactly what you mean by it! What’s the first thing you think of when you hear “80s drum sounds”? Lol!
Jake Reed djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djooo djooo “I can feel it cooomin in the air tonight”
@@merchannel7762 And power toms :)
@@JakeReedmusic Gatedschd Reverbschd
@@JakeReedmusic 80s sounds...electronic drums
Like anything I've described. Hell yes.
Andrew Masters woooo!!! Thanks buddy!
"Where is this lawyer you speak of?" --Ron Swanson
I'm gonna put cloths and duck tape over my laptop to achieve that 70's sound on my E-DRUM VST
That’s what I’m talkin’ about!
Tape on my monitor didn't make no difference.
Towel worked, however.
How in the fuck am I just finding this man and his wonderful mustache and channel after 14 years of being a musician and 4 years of Berklee... I now have to binge this entire channel LOL
Ha! THANKS DUDE!!!
@Paul Seymour the golden years I’m sure!
The mustache is not wonderful, but the hair on the top of his head is.
Same here, i feel like ive just found a rare hidded gem lol
I always say "Ziggy Stardust". I love the way the drums sound on that.
Same!
Now THAT's dead.
Good example! Had to give it another listen and yeah I hear the muffling clearly!
EDIT: There’s some bizarre panning on that song when listening with AirPods wow. Very separated sounds and really forward sounding. Feels like the band is playing right in front of ya and to the left and right a lot.
I should have said "the rise and fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars" lol. As in the whole album...
There is nothing like the nostalgia of hearing “that” 70’s snare sound.
yep.
Something especially cool I realized watching this is that this technique would probably be a dream for adding post-production effects. Having such a dry in-studio sound means that you could add reverb to the snare for space or do some wild psyche inspired effects on the whole kit without so much natural resonance making it sound messy or muddy.
exactly!
That sweet 'stache is pretty appropriate for discussing the 70's
Lol
I swear tuning drums well is harder than playing them well. Having said that, this was a very helpful video. Thanks Jake. I will now continue to drive myself nuts trying to get the sound of method #2.
You’re welcome! AND, you can do it!
I think playing them well is way harder. Good playing can make even bad tuning sound great. Flipped around though great tuning will never make a bad drummer sound good. Once you hit more than 1 acoustic drum it's very hard to make it sound musical instead of just noise. A good drummer can use anything as drums and they'll sound good. No Tuning required.
Use a very cheap drum dial or some sort of tunning device, it is only more difficult if you are tuning to an exact pitch but there are apps for that as well..
@@lucyferina Thanks Lucy :)
love this video!
Drum guru/ mad scientist...this is great!
love your videos!
Thanks!
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claudiooo
Next level mustache game.
I'm a guitarist and have no idea why I'm watching this.
(Edit) I've just realised its analogous to finding the perfect level of slap back.
Boom.
dog I am losing it over that beat 8:52 so sinister
Thanks dude!
man, that first little groove with the tape and the cloth, you definitely nailed that mick fleetwood sound.
Thanks!
This is exactly the video I wanted to see 10 years ago when I was trying to figure out why my drums didn't sound like recordings! Amazing video, thank you!
Thanks! Better late than never???
killer stuff man! lots of knowledge in that mustache
Nick Wilkins Music ha! Thanks!
Never understimate the power of a sweet stache!
easily one of the best drum videos on youtube ive ever watched. very simple and not getting to bogged down in the details, just messing about and finding something that sounds good. also love to see the ND868 get some much deserved love
Thanks dude! Simpler is usually better, right?!
My fav era of music. Well done Jake!
Bergatron Music thanks! Same!
This is probably one of the best videos I've seen covering the topic of changing or altering drum sounds. I'm sure there's plenty of videos covering this topic in a variety of ways. But as a non-drummer, this is more of an overall sound designing perspective that's actually very informative and friendly to the approach of editing your drums' sounds.
For other videos I've seen covering the topic, many drummers slap the cloth covers on top and call it a day. But I appreciate the in-depth sound design showing the most minuscule changes to the weight on the drums changing the sounds drastically. Overall awesome beefy drum tones that definitely are inspiring, thank you for sharing your soundscaping techniques! It'd be awesome to get a sample pack of some of these drum sounds! Lol 🤙🥁
Thanks! I really appreciate the detailed response! I'll probably make a sample pack someday.
ohhhh! I'm so glad I found someone who's figured it out for me.
Just recently started getting into 70s jams and wanting to replicate a lot of it in my playing.
Thank you good sir for taking the time to find that sound.
Yaaaay! Thanks! Happy to help!
this needs more views - this was great
Thanks!
Love it! Fantastic sounds and GREAT playing all while delivering the most concise, informative vid on the topic. Thanks, Jake! Subscribed.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Loooove the video! And can’t agree more with you. Those drum sounds calls for groove and minimalist fills.
Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thank you!!!
i know this is an engineering vid but I appreciate the clean, clear test grooves you're playing. relaxed strokes, great sound
Thanks! Even though I’m talking about engineering stuff, I’ll always be a drummer first!
These videos are gold! I’m lovin’ them!
Jake can you pleease do a video showing how you tune drums? I’m a beginning drummer and you seem to be able to wrangle any tone you want from your drums 😅
Man, those are killer sounding drums. Love it!
Thanks!
wow this video was so cool, I can hear those tighter drum tones also fitting well in some more modern productions! Great video
adriano loparco thank you! Yeah, totally works in modern production too! What’s old is new again, right?!
As a guitarist and by definition deaf through years of Marshall 4x12 therapy, I haven't a clue what you're going on about and couldn't care less but it sounds ace as far as I can tell ;-).
Thanks!
never heard of your channel before.. im 8 seconds into the first video and your mustache earned you a sub.. impeccable
Yaaaaay!!! My mustache thanks you.
this is awesome dude! thank u for making this
Very cool work. I like the 1st and 2nd Kit very much. And your playing fits so good! Love it!
Thanks dude!
That kick sound is wonderful!
Thanks!
The best part (and this is ALL really good!) is the advice on sound creating vibe at the end. Once you hear that tone, you have no choice but to be Don Hendley
Thanks! Yes, to me it's all about THE SOUND!
Absolutely love that Yellow Gretsch kit. I saw a picture of Dennis Wilson playing that same kit watching something about Hal Blaine. Very cool
Thanks so much for this! My hubby got me a Mapex Venus kit for our 10yr Anniversary and I have not been able to find anyone that would just plain say/show how to lower the tones aside from saying get new heads or a new set. Taught me so much more in less than 15 minutes than the last 8 months have.
Happy to help! Those are great drums!
I love those 70s sounds!!!
Yaaaaaay!!!
Love the sound of 70s drums!specially in reggae music,great video,killer stache.
Thanks!
Thsnk you!!! Love that sound!
Watched it ages ago and loved it. It popped up a few times the last days so I became curious and clicked it again. And yeah, now it goes viral. That's good.
Thanks dude! I appreciate the “re-run”!
It's totally awsome. I like the dry humour as much as the dry drums😂
Doing a drum session soon where I was looking for this exact type of sound, recognized you from an Andrew Masters video and laughed my ass off the entire time. Thanks for the great video, subscribed!
YEEEEESSSS!!! Thanks dude!
The rolled up tape method is really great!! It solves the issue of that buzzing that can happen when you lay the tape flat and it inevitably starts to peel up a bit.
Big time! I also think there's something about the rolled up tapes that creates more weight in one spot on the drum, so it deadens it more right there instead of a piece the same size laid out flat. Just a theory though ... I could be completely full of it lol!
nailed it, thanks for this helpful and entertaining video! nailed the 70s vibe all around. cheers
Thank YOU! Glad you enjoyed it!
Elements from these 70s drum kits, especially regarding the snare is a pretty current sound in indie pop/rock records nowadays I feel.
Bid time!
Great stuff! Just found this channel. I'm gonna try me some great British tea towels on my Beverley kit. I'm sort of excited. Ringo!
Thanks! Have fun!
This video has helped me so much thank you!.Just taken up drums again after many years, need all the help I can get!
Yay! Happy to help!
The point is that it's finding sweet spots, for literally everything. That's the magic. Or at least that's my perception of the magic. Great video Mr. Reed. You have a gift for this stuff.
Thank you! Yes, find the sweet spots!
These videos are so MONEY, JR! And those tones? So buttery.
Matt Forbes thanks, Matt! You and I have very similar aesthetics haha
man, you have an incredible look
edit: just subbed and looked at your upload schedule and dude, please upload some more vids because the algorithm is blessing you
Thanks! Eventually, I’ll get around to uploading some more vids. I’m a new dad at the moment, so that’s taking up a lot of my time right now. Hopefully soon though!
@@JakeReedmusic Drummer and father of three here.
Enjoy your time when it‘s young, flying by too fast.
And thanks for this excellent video!
@@Frank1979Zappa Thanks!
De-Li-Cious !!
Really cool.
Love it.
:-)
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Reminds me of this session in the 90s,
where I had these guys over to record a composition...
Hit once, bang -> gone was my snare-head :-(
Recorded it anyway and t h a t sound was actually great.
I was sooo suprised :-)
Everytime I hear the song, first thing I hear is the snare :-) yessss !
dude keep it up! the quality of your vids is insane! ur definitely gonna blow up soon
Carl Brannbacka thanks for the encouragement! I really appreciate it!
That floor makes the camera move that’s beefy. 🤘🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
boom.
Right on man.. Rocking the 70s porno 'stache while learning everybody the secrets of that smooth super sexy swingin sound of the 70s.... Great content.
Boom. Thanks!
Fantastic tutorial, thanks for sharing. Amazing playing as well!
Thank you for watching!
Completely and absolutely hyper badass. I'll be using this. Thank you!
Thank you!
Those tones, are pretty dead on. It has a great vibe.
Matthew Parsons thanks!
Dude. Love your tone and video editing. Also sick Ron Swanson look! 😅
Haha! Thanks!
Your drum sounds are fantastic ! Absolutely nailed that sound
Thanks!
Really Cool Stuff!!! Thanks for the great Tipps!!!💯❤🔥
You’re welcome!
amazingly great. you should make a sample library of mutli-layered one shot. Could be the end of my quest for "dead" drum sample library.
Very good job bro !
holysh* just saw you made one 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! I made a sample pack of the second kit in this vid called SUPER DEAD DRUMS. Link in description.
@@JakeReedmusic Bought it immediatly. Made a track in the afternoon. So inspiring. Dope work mate !
@@RandSht So rad! Glad you're enjoying it! Thanks!
Hey, these sounds are pure gold. If you'd offered a sampled set of your drums for Kontakt, I'd buy it in an instant.
one day!
This just one of a kind! It all about finding that balance!!! Thanks man
Exactly!
Your drum packs slapppp
sounds great, u have a sweet 70's tash, too, i wanna hear how to sound like john Bonham, i don't know why i don't even play drums, but Bonhams sound was killer imo
Thanks! Here's how I attempt to achieve an inkling of Bonham in my tiny studio: ruclips.net/video/An3At-saakI/видео.html
Bonham sound was achieved by recording in a very big very reverb prone room (a stone castle) of course now a days you can just get a reverb prone space, and add more reverb post recording. unless you have a church or a space with that reverb it will be hard to achieve without using effects...
@@lucyferina I don't have a stairwell!
@@JakeReedmusic I got a fever, and the only prescription is more stairwell!
@@lucyferina and the key to bonham sound was bonham
one additional thing I do (because I do go full 70s).. i stick mics up inside my concert toms..
What kind of drum mics fo you prefer? I’m about to get a a few
@@djfglobal3377 audio technica atm230s
This guy write here is spilling all the juicy secrets, thank god I found this channel. Great stuff ^_^
now this, is the channel i’ve been needing...thank the heavens
(angels singing) "aaaaaaahhhhh"
...and then Stewart Copeland arrived, and we all found our drum keys.
Lol yep!
Lmao
Yeah. That sounds ridiculas. I temporarily live in Nebraska where everyone "tunes" their drums like that and wonders why they can't get more than 3 relatives at a show. Well, that's why. Ya'll don't know how to tune your shit.
Copeland couldn’t carry Tony Williams’ cymbal case 😎🙏
@@loveisthelaw20042004 although i don't quite agree with you - i think Copeland is a fine drummer - Tony Williams is my favourite drummer. The '64 concert! That hi-hat! Nonetheless, Copeland has touch and feel in his genre(s)
Liked for the drum sound, subbed for the mustache.
Yay!!!
Really enjoyed this one!! Thanks for making this.
Thank YOU!
Looks like you NAILED it!
Thanks!
Subbed for the "luuuuhl"
😂 yaaaaaay!!!
I like his Ron Swanson look, I wonder if I can pull it off 🤔 ... Songs for the deaf has pretty dead drums, Eric Valentine tracked cymbals after the drums
Ha! Thanks! It’s fun recording the cyms and drums separately. You can really get the drums sounding huge without the cymbals taking over on big rock stuff. Or, if you want super dry sounding drums, remove the cyms from the room completely and then overdub them later. Fun stuff!
Excellent video. I think most of us drummers have practiced with big ear muff style target shooting hearing protection (Vic Firth and other companies manufactured them with headphone speaker elements to practice along with a click or song). I used those as like the template sound for pre-1980's tones, i.e. I'd try to make the drums sound like they would with the hearing protection on: thuddy but not obnoxiously ringy, etc.
The Ringo/Glyn Johns tea towel method works of course, but the immediate clicky sound of drumstick bead to drum head is totally gone. The method our brother here showed with the ⅛th of the drum, at the edge covered with moongels, tape, etc works really well.
I don't do it much because it's such a pain in the ass but I used to take felt strips and put them behind the drumhead, held down with the pressure of the rims pinching the bearing edges. Some bass drums had that muffling system on the front head but I'd do it on the batter heads of the tom's and kick. That technique sounds very cool but unless you have multiple kits (like our brother here with some straight BADASS kits), you're stuck with it unless you want to rehead your drums all the time.
That first method is fantastic. Just used it on a track and the whole song sounds tighter and neater.Thanks for the help and what a marvelous moustache! Best wishes from Derry City Ireland 🎵🥁 Brian
Yay! That's pretty cool. See, I'm not completely making everything up!
@@JakeReedmusic cheers man.. Hope all is good with you and thanks again for the really enjoyable video. Best wishes from Derry City and Beechwood Recording in Derry City Ireland 🇮🇪
@@radiostationoffice Thanks! Hope to visit Ireland someday!
Great video. I love the '70s sound. I was recently listening to Michael Jackson's Earth Song and I desperately want Jonathan Moffett's snare sound. How???
I think Moffett was strictly MJ's live drummer... I think Steve Ferrone is on the record.
1:52 I got a little Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Here comes my girl vibe
I thought the same
Love it! Stan Lynch!
These videos rip man, really cool, thanks for taking the time to talk about the cool shit, helpful af
You're welcome! Happy to help out!
This is one of the best videos on engineering drums I’ve ever seen. The second kit sounded incredible.0
Thanks!
Great video! Instant subscription.
Question: do you find the "70s" muffled sound decreasing overall volume or projection? I've always assumed that muffling to this extent wouldn't work in live situations without mics, but now I'm not so certain that is always the case. And have you applied tape under a cymbal? I seem to always have to "tune" rides with tape to compress and control overtones that I don't like.
Thanks! Basically, my take on muffling is that it really works well with close mic’ing. If there’s only overhead mics or no mics, I will do very little muffling or none at all. A lot of the overtones will get absorbed by the other instruments, and a lot of it depends on what the other instruments are, the sonic density of the music, and how loud everyone is playing. Same thing with cymbals! But, also, I’m on a never ending quest to find THE cymbal haha.
Great video! 😂 never go full 70’s
Thanks dude! It's true ... I'd say no more than like 80% plus or minus 2% 70s.
Great video. Thank you! Love those ‘70s sounds!
Awesome sounds
Thanks!
the spinal tap reference on rack tom... im dead
LOL ... glad someone finally caught that!
"why would anyone play with that dead, dry sound, drums are supposed to ring!"
Holy shit, are you telling me that's a widespread... Like, THING? Because for the longest time I've wondered why live drums suddenly somewhere (in like... the 90's?) started sounding like they're hollow and played in some fucking warehouse. Every single great act that had hits in the 70's that you see live nowadays have that reverby, "large" sound that to me just sounds so unappealing. Yeah I want the tight dryness, because it feels... Well... *tighter* It feels more intimate, like the drums are heartbeats? They're literally percussion, so shouldn't they have a literally percussive sound? I thought it was just some thing where sound guys got retarded in the 90's or just me being out of touch with what """""OBJECTIVELY"""" sounds good.
I love this rant.
@@JakeReedmusic ADHD + sleep deprivation + isolation + coffee is what it is.
Hands down,the best drum sound
Thanks dude!
Great tips & trix and grooovy drumming! love it! cheers! :)
Thanks!
The mustache also helps to get the full 70's vibe
It certainly doesn’t hurt!
@@JakeReedmusic Hell yeah! I am also growing a mustache too. by the way, Jake, your video helped me a lot, i am looking for a kind of 70's sound in a recording i am making with a couple friends, i'm playing guitar and already laid down a clean Strat wah wah guitar track as in 70's recordings and told my drummer to also look for that vintage sound... Thanks for the vid dude. Greetings from Mexico
@@javierdiazsantana Sweet dude! Thank you for the kind words and best of luck recording!
@@JakeReedmusic Thanks dude. I think my mustache is already some nice kinda Selleck... Using 70's colognes such as Polo Green, Paco Rabanne Pour Homme and stuff, also pretty helpful. Same for flannel shirts. Phosphor bronze strings on Martin acoustics, Eagles records...
Good tutorial. Do you prefer not to use Moon Gel? Or did you choose not to use it because there was no such thing as Moon Gel in the 70's?
Michael Jones thanks! Good question ... I used to have moon gel but it just wasn’t for me. It either melted from being in my cymbal bag in the hot car, got so dirty it wouldn’t stick even after washing it with soap and water, or stained the drumheads. I’ve tried drum dots too! They all sort of work but I keep coming back to ol’ faithful gaff tape.
The easy answer is that moon gel doesn't sound right when trying to achieve this sound. Neither does the Big Fat Snare Drum products. The way he does it on the first kit was the most common method, whitout the cloth though, but definitely sounds great with the cloth, no doubt. Gaff tape taped all across the drum on the edge (preferrably with something semi-heavy taped to the drum head underneath) is the only thing that will REALLY get you there, because that was how they used to do it. A wallet could be used back then too, but don't just put it on the snare, open it up and put one side on the edge and one side hanging down, which was the method they used.
impressive ! thanks !! cheers from berlin
its all about finding the balance.
love this
🙌🙌🙌