@@jediknight1294 Correct. If Im having to fight off a guy on a vintage on streets while I am on a modern on slicks and he doesnt have a race license Im going back to school
On my 748s , I was carrying more speed into and out of corners than 1000RR machines, my demise was on the straight, got a great run at a 1000RR on the straight but I missed a gear , was side by side; but coming into corners on the limit of engine braking with the rear dancing under braking (No slipper clutch), out of all the lads with their 1000cc machines, auto blippers and traction, wheelie control ; I probably had the biggest smile under the helmet , no abs , no traction control , no wheelie control , no slipper clutch , yes half the power but complete control of whats underneath you, its your input that determines how the bike reacts and you who controls how the bike responds; wont get a bigger smile than getting the two to work in harmony
@@juicer404 Owning a few Tamburini bikes I def prefer their style but I dont mind looking at my 848 Corse either, not exactly ugly. I prefer it over the new models.
@@RyanStewartUSA The 848 is beautiful and a great bike to ride. Was actually the first Ducati sport bike I rode at all on a test day. I will never forget that big smile on my face under the helmet. In the end I got myself a 998S. I always wanted one of Tamburini's designs ever since I saw a Cagiva Mito 125
Ok, if one more person says "SHOULD HAVE.." I think I'm going to quit the internet. It's just a fun race guys, we weren't prepping pre season. P.s. "should" is the most negative word in existence.
Yeah, super low mileage, never raced or rallied and “what do mean we disconnected the speedo 15 years ago...., what big end knock? They all sound like that when they’re cold”
25 years old and can keep up with new bikes in the corners in street tyres while new bikes are on slicks and only loses out on power is really testament of how right the 916 design was, nevermind that it's timeless design, sort the brakes with modern Brembo and the character-full Italian electric and it'd be ace.
Brakes needed some maintenance... but if you were also on new slicks, you would have finished in the middle. You guys can really ride. Beautiful bike, great video!
I had a similar moment with my 996 at the Nürburgring. Upgraded pads and fluid and never had any issues. Would be great to see a return of the little old lady!!!
It’s amazing how many people you can pass in the corner when you have no brakes 😂 😂 😂 😂. I feel you’re pain guys but on the up side,nobody got hurt and everybody got to go home.
Just wanted to leave a quick thank you for the endlessly entertaining content. I genuinely get excited every time you toss up a new video. Please, don't ever stop being you, you two. This is my favorite RUclips channel.
Yep old Ducati’s are a pain in the arse. My old 916 had constant electrical issues but even when it’s just stood there in my garage, I am still enjoying it! Absolute masterpiece
A careless Merc driver took me out on my way home from a 12 hour night shift (broken leg). It destroyed my plans for my own 3 hour Supermoto endurance race next week. :/ Glad to see more racing content!
@@lolly166541 Fe350 so its bulletproof. Right peg snapped and front brake line burst. Gives me the excuse to buy a nice Hel line. It's just such a shame because I've never raced in an Endurance event before. Thank you for the concern though. Here's hoping the 2020 season is good for me.
@@nyleen Modern Bikes - tisk tisk tisk. Endurance Races sound like a lot of fun, sadly a) my bike ain't Endurance ready, b) I have absolutely no friends :P But it's not the end of all time so get cracking in 2020!
@@lolly166541 Thanks! And I went into this with 0 friends and I'm still at 0. lol. I just ask the organizers when trackdays are on and occassionally get tips from them when on track. Most of my knowledge comes from Dan at Life at Lean. Really great workshops online.
@@nyleen She's from 1946, and give her 10 laps and the engine overheats as the Company that modified them doubled the HP, upped the compression to 9.5 from 5.5 etc, but the cooling (aircooled) stayed the same... She's a quick lady but doesn't like long races ^^
Whilst I am gravely disappointed you suffered the mechanical I am quite impressed with the performance of The Metrosexual on track. He really was about to 'take some scalps'. Glad no harm was done that could have been a disaster when the brake went.
Timeless bike. Had a 916sps as a young man as I was a Carl fogarty fanatic. Saved for years to get one. Adored it even though it was uncomfortable, pretty unreliable and a lot of work. Sold it when I got divorced. Always regretted it. I just bought a 998 final edition with 1,000 miles that was in dry storage for 15 years. I adore them yet I wouldn’t really recommend them to anyone. Ownership is for the dedicated. Still the most iconic looking bike I’ve seen. Aged so well !!!
Everything that has a motor and comes from Italy will always be aesthetically appealling but will ultimately either try to kill you or break down. I will say though in my book you already won the race by choosing the 916 as your ride and bump starting it to the line.
Top vid! I'd love to do something like this on my old ZZR. Also, it's lovely to see an old school bike, which in it's day was no slouch, still being ridden properly instead of babied. Nice, smooth and consistant riding. Marshalls on the teabreak mate lol, shame about the brakes.
Great video as usual. I currently own a 2002 998 and absolutely love it. Of course, I often wonder what it would be like to have something newer, faster, and more electronically advanced. An older and still very capable bike like this brings up several interesting questions: how much more power do I want? How much power is too much for the road? Should I "upgrade" to newer machinery but lose the more visceral riding experience? I dont know the answer to any of these questions, but your video brings them back to the forefront of my mind. Cheers.
Thanks guys.. Had to buy a 916 after seeing this some time ago.. I'm using it for my daily 50km commute on small country roads and having a blast.. should have done this 10 years ago..
living the dream sir's . but do you think the brake issue had anything to do with the zip tie/cable tie trough the bolt hole at 10:58 , maybe it's moving around a little or something. Cheers
I don't want to hurt anyones feelings but after having owned a 98 for one season back in 2002, The parts they glossed over was 1) It is slow 2) It self destructs - I would never consider endurance racing it (I'm still finding various spares for it around my garage) 3) The gas tank seemed very squared/sharp so after several hard breaking laps, I always felt like I was punched in the stomach. 4) The stock tractor battery weighted about 50lbs and sucked. 5) Spare parts were always scarce. Nice to look at but for me it was just too needy and unpractical. Thanks for bringing the memory back.
This is so relevant to my interests. Tbh Ducati’s aren’t as unreliable as their reputation would have them, as long as the valve gaps are alright and the belts have been done recently, and the rockers aren’t from the batch effected by flaking... and... 😂
if only you had changed the gearing 1 down, 3 up). Never had more fun than jumping Suzuki's and R1's into and out of corners...and sorting the brakes! Great to see. Bump in Spanish is mucho bumpo
Ah, 916's and brakes... Mine launched its rear caliper at my friend's head halfway through Germany, I think manufacturers call these things 'character' 😁
The cornering stability of these bikes is amazing. I actually preferred my 998 over my 899 in that regard - a lot. I also like their mid-range grunt better than revving it too much.
Ha this is fantastic! Pity about the old breaks. Them the breaks though! I would love to see you guys compete in another enduro race with a competitive bike. I’d watch that all day. Take some scalps!
Fair play to you, you were going good, pitty the front brake went on you. It wanted some lower gearing on it as well looked like it was struggling a bit on the top end. But good on you. Another top video, keep them coming. 👍👍👍👍
I can relate to this, I was also thinking whilst going flat out, valves bouncing down the back straight at Aragon on my older gsx1100, thinking this crank is 30 years old fingers crossed. ha ha. Enjoyable though eh chaps.
I use to in WERA years ago in 1986' not cost effective at ALL !!!! Cost twice a much for the year, parts, body etc. Went back to my my tried and tested GSXR !!! : D
We won our club endurance championship two years on the trot running a complete bone stock 1999 Yamaha R6 with a dodgy transmission. We have taken many scalps of many modern machines. However, you lads were on a 916, and therein lies your problem.
Still in one piece, just need some new shorts and you'll be reet. Nice effort and from a journalistic/media point of view, what a cool idea!! Well done guys, Still the best "magazine" on the market. You've got to fix it and try again though, I'd love to see you embarrass some of those superbikes.
That 916 is awesome, especially in yellow. Were these problems inherent in the brakes on the 916 or is this due to age? Aren't they relatively simple involving a master cylinder, brake lines, calipers and pads? I just got my 2011 Kawasaki Concours 14 (1400GTR) out for the season and, in the garage, was surprised that the lever pulled right to the grip. There is more to the brakes on the Concours as it has ABS and linked braking with lines running under the tank and seat on the way to the front wheel. On top of that, Kawasaki chose to use rubber lines for much of it. Fortunately, it seems that there was just some air in the master cylinder. Honda's linked braking system from a few years ago was even worse with proportioning valves and extra master cylinders worked in. How will these new marvels with ABS and various ways to link brakes hold up 25 years from now if something as relatively simple as the 916 fails? Love your channel.
Well. Can't ride even.. that's scary, you know. Good decision! Lets face it.. you not really track guys. BBBB suits you so much better. Stay on safe side, always ride responsibly!!🍻💙
Was really hoping you guys would have better luck. Get it sorted and get back to it, great video! Oh, and I was shocked to see a helmet mounted camera during a race, none of my local orgs allow it, seems like that one doesn’t either. Would love to see some nice bike mounted footage to give me a reference on where to put my GoPro
Almost overtook the other guys in the corners. I'd say that's a win.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ hangon isn't the guy who went out first Chris not a racer it's Al who has the race credentials
@@jediknight1294 Correct. If Im having to fight off a guy on a vintage on streets while I am on a modern on slicks and he doesnt have a race license Im going back to school
@@RyanStewartUSA fuck yes.... Thats just depressing
On my 748s , I was carrying more speed into and out of corners than 1000RR machines, my demise was on the straight, got a great run at a 1000RR on the straight but I missed a gear , was side by side; but coming into corners on the limit of engine braking with the rear dancing under braking (No slipper clutch), out of all the lads with their 1000cc machines, auto blippers and traction, wheelie control ; I probably had the biggest smile under the helmet , no abs , no traction control , no wheelie control , no slipper clutch , yes half the power but complete control of whats underneath you, its your input that determines how the bike reacts and you who controls how the bike responds; wont get a bigger smile than getting the two to work in harmony
Anyone anyone 😂 I wish I was a 3rd lad on your trips
2 guys 1 916
Why you don't have 3 squillion subscribers is beyond me. Best thing on the internet. 👌🏻
"Ah shit he has gone missing"
"In other news I've gotten a new lens" *Begins to play with zoom*
she may not be the fastest, she may try to kill you ... but she is most definitely the most beautiful girl on the grid, the 916
1098 has left the chat
@@juicer404 Owning a few Tamburini bikes I def prefer their style but I dont mind looking at my 848 Corse either, not exactly ugly. I prefer it over the new models.
@@RyanStewartUSA got the exact same bike and was thinking exactly the same thing mate
@@RyanStewartUSA The 848 is beautiful and a great bike to ride. Was actually the first Ducati sport bike I rode at all on a test day. I will never forget that big smile on my face under the helmet.
In the end I got myself a 998S. I always wanted one of Tamburini's designs ever since I saw a Cagiva Mito 125
Ok, if one more person says "SHOULD HAVE.." I think I'm going to quit the internet. It's just a fun race guys, we weren't prepping pre season.
P.s. "should" is the most negative word in existence.
You should have typed that in caps lock.
Should have not taken any notice of those comments
At least you tried Chris🤟
Cool, two people said it now. So he won't quit the internet 😁
Worth a try. "Should Have.." done some maintenance, and maybe not shown the world that you falsify mileage.
For sale: Ducati 916. Surprisingly low, verifiable mileage, excellent brakes, starts on the button every time. Sensible offers only.
Yeah, super low mileage, never raced or rallied and “what do mean we disconnected the speedo 15 years ago...., what big end knock? They all sound like that when they’re cold”
Dean Smith yep sound like a bag of spanner’s when you first fire them up!
But once your off it sounds like a musical masterpiece
You know you’re stuck when you can walk away and it’s still upright.
25 years old and can keep up with new bikes in the corners in street tyres while new bikes are on slicks and only loses out on power is really testament of how right the 916 design was, nevermind that it's timeless design, sort the brakes with modern Brembo and the character-full Italian electric and it'd be ace.
mumma mia! sue perkins and tubby statham uploading 2 days consecutively, crack out the bourbons on this very blessed day
Brakes needed some maintenance... but if you were also on new slicks, you would have finished in the middle. You guys can really ride. Beautiful bike, great video!
How weird seeing you here man 😄 two worlds collide hahah! Let’s strap an orenda engine to one of these bikes
and the and the speedometer
I had a similar moment with my 996 at the Nürburgring. Upgraded pads and fluid and never had any issues. Would be great to see a return of the little old lady!!!
Hard luck but in the slower stuff you were punching well above! Nice work.
Just ordered a BBBB hoodie, that’s 45 quid towards new brakes 😂
Thank you 🙏🏻
No probs, love your channel. Best and funniest bike content on the internet 👍🏻
It’s amazing how many people you can pass in the corner when you have no brakes 😂 😂 😂 😂. I feel you’re pain guys but on the up side,nobody got hurt and everybody got to go home.
Just wanted to leave a quick thank you for the endlessly entertaining content. I genuinely get excited every time you toss up a new video. Please, don't ever stop being you, you two. This is my favorite RUclips channel.
916, first bike I tenner hearing roaring through the countryside! That noise is heaven
Yep old Ducati’s are a pain in the arse.
My old 916 had constant electrical issues but even when it’s just stood there in my garage, I am still enjoying it!
Absolute masterpiece
A careless Merc driver took me out on my way home from a 12 hour night shift (broken leg). It destroyed my plans for my own 3 hour Supermoto endurance race next week. :/
Glad to see more racing content!
Cut the leg off... No leg = no broken leg :)
But jokes aside, glad it's just a broken leg, anything major happened to the bike?
@@lolly166541 Fe350 so its bulletproof. Right peg snapped and front brake line burst. Gives me the excuse to buy a nice Hel line. It's just such a shame because I've never raced in an Endurance event before.
Thank you for the concern though. Here's hoping the 2020 season is good for me.
@@nyleen Modern Bikes - tisk tisk tisk. Endurance Races sound like a lot of fun, sadly a) my bike ain't Endurance ready, b) I have absolutely no friends :P But it's not the end of all time so get cracking in 2020!
@@lolly166541 Thanks! And I went into this with 0 friends and I'm still at 0. lol. I just ask the organizers when trackdays are on and occassionally get tips from them when on track. Most of my knowledge comes from Dan at Life at Lean. Really great workshops online.
@@nyleen She's from 1946, and give her 10 laps and the engine overheats as the Company that modified them doubled the HP, upped the compression to 9.5 from 5.5 etc, but the cooling (aircooled) stayed the same... She's a quick lady but doesn't like long races ^^
The bike that got me into bikes! Had a poster of a yellow 916 as a lad! Still one of the best, if not the best, looking bikes ever made.
The 916 still looks amazing.
Fagan knew about the brakes and send the Baron first - what a move...
Looks like we can expect about 2 laps on the BBB4 Endurance race!
There was no need to disconnecting the speedo to save the milage lol
🤣🤣🤣 old school tricks 🤣🤣 he just do a clock swap with lower millage 🤣🤣
@@thewippit2400 we used to do it at Toyota driving new cars to other dealerships. With no milage shown up on them
Mmm good spot. How to keep a mint low miler
Stable Slayers never raced and no problems. Well looked after 🙄
Cheers from Alaska guys to the best channel on youtube. I just came in from plowing snow to a notification of a new vid. Going to be a good day!!
Whilst I am gravely disappointed you suffered the mechanical I am quite impressed with the performance of The Metrosexual on track. He really was about to 'take some scalps'. Glad no harm was done that could have been a disaster when the brake went.
It sounded absolutely glorious in those few laps though! Haha
Yes it did - absolutely amazing!
I love the work that you guys do. Chris, you're an excellent racer. Better luck next time chaps.
I make you right in that the bike was holding it's own in the twisties. Hopefully you'll have more joy next time round.
I was really looking forward to this one! To bad that the brakes crapped out.
Good job by the marshals there being super attentive! XD
Timeless bike. Had a 916sps as a young man as I was a Carl fogarty fanatic. Saved for years to get one. Adored it even though it was uncomfortable, pretty unreliable and a lot of work. Sold it when I got divorced. Always regretted it. I just bought a 998 final edition with 1,000 miles that was in dry storage for 15 years. I adore them yet I wouldn’t really recommend them to anyone. Ownership is for the dedicated. Still the most iconic looking bike I’ve seen. Aged so well !!!
Loving the factory cable tie on the front brake 😂
Everything that has a motor and comes from Italy will always be aesthetically appealling but will ultimately either try to kill you or break down. I will say though in my book you already won the race by choosing the 916 as your ride and bump starting it to the line.
nah
Top vid!
I'd love to do something like this on my old ZZR.
Also, it's lovely to see an old school bike, which in it's day was no slouch, still being ridden properly instead of babied.
Nice, smooth and consistant riding.
Marshalls on the teabreak mate lol, shame about the brakes.
Great video as usual. I currently own a 2002 998 and absolutely love it. Of course, I often wonder what it would be like to have something newer, faster, and more electronically advanced. An older and still very capable bike like this brings up several interesting questions: how much more power do I want? How much power is too much for the road? Should I "upgrade" to newer machinery but lose the more visceral riding experience? I dont know the answer to any of these questions, but your video brings them back to the forefront of my mind. Cheers.
Getting itchy while waiting for it to pop :) Great job and as always, superb video!!!
Definitely want to see more of whatever you do with this bike. It's gorgeous. You probably had more fun out there as well.
hahaha ANYONE?? And the "don't turn it off"-song had me laughing so hard :D
New lens looks great boys! Sporting my Benidorm t-shirt tomorrow 😎
Thanks guys.. Had to buy a 916 after seeing this some time ago.. I'm using it for my daily 50km commute on small country roads and having a blast.. should have done this 10 years ago..
Speedo working well. Love the 916
Sounds awesome up in the revs when flogged
A 748 / 749 is exquisite for this reason
must have watched this at least 10 times over the years... absolutly epic!
living the dream sir's . but do you think the brake issue had anything to do with the zip tie/cable tie trough the bolt hole at 10:58 , maybe it's moving around a little or something. Cheers
I don't want to hurt anyones feelings but after having owned a 98 for one season back in 2002, The parts they glossed over was 1) It is slow 2) It self destructs - I would never consider endurance racing it (I'm still finding various spares for it around my garage) 3) The gas tank seemed very squared/sharp so after several hard breaking laps, I always felt like I was punched in the stomach. 4) The stock tractor battery weighted about 50lbs and sucked. 5) Spare parts were always scarce. Nice to look at but for me it was just too needy and unpractical. Thanks for bringing the memory back.
Still the best looking bike ever made. It has no equal
I love the 748 aswell 😍
@@thewippit2400 MV F4 wins ;-)
But I still love the 916 :-)
The 6 'P's spring to mind! Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance 😂 But the 916 sounded sweet and still looks the dawgs danglies!!
Two words never seen together before ......ducati and endurance lol
This is so relevant to my interests. Tbh Ducati’s aren’t as unreliable as their reputation would have them, as long as the valve gaps are alright and the belts have been done recently, and the rockers aren’t from the batch effected by flaking... and... 😂
Jesus Christ that induction bark is fantastic 🙂 44t love ya 👊
U guys are hilarious love everyone you put a bbb or a vid like this 😂 keep up the work 👍🏻👍🏻
Take my like just because this is my all time favorite bike!💪
What a gorgeous thing that is!
Would just like to say thank you for all the quality content you guys put out your channel is one of a kind love all your stuff. Thank you again. 👍💖
That 916 is so pretty, especially in that yellow. Hope you guys hold onto that for a very long time.
if only you had changed the gearing 1 down, 3 up). Never had more fun than jumping Suzuki's and R1's into and out of corners...and sorting the brakes! Great to see. Bump in Spanish is mucho bumpo
THIS BIKE in red was n a poster on my Orem, Utah USA wall as a kid , my dream bike lol do me well my brothers!!
I love you guys. Chris, you actually got talent mate
Ah, 916's and brakes... Mine launched its rear caliper at my friend's head halfway through Germany, I think manufacturers call these things 'character' 😁
So many years later and it's still so good looking. But yeah, things have moved on a bit :)
Well done lads fantastic effort !
I boiled my brakes going down Grosglockner last year.. Nasty feelin when you pump the lever and nothing!!
Closing the gap in the corners is well done for an old beast. The bike isn’t bad either 😂🤙🏻🏍💨
I obtained my first duc a few weeks ago a 03 749 and I absolutely love it
Endurance pushing a Ducati 916 :)
The cornering stability of these bikes is amazing. I actually preferred my 998 over my 899 in that regard - a lot. I also like their mid-range grunt better than revving it too much.
Quality video guys! Did you replace the master cylinder? Any better?
Love the authentic oh shit as the brake lever reaches the grip. But good job getting it parked in the gravel safely.
Great video guys, best on the RUclipss by a mile
"Mechanical thympathy".
Yet another great video, I'm going to pay the monthly subscription, worth every penny and you deserve it xoxo
Thanks! 🙏🏻
thanks for trying to race it ;)
That Ducati has those moderns measure. Iron out the gremlins and 44Teeth will be jizzing champagne from the podium onto all and sundry.
Finally, the long awaited 916 video.
Love that speedo. Just write down how fast you think you were going if you get pulled over in switzerland
9:59 - sounds I never wanted to hear Chris make. What has been heard cannot be unheard. :(
Ha this is fantastic! Pity about the old breaks. Them the breaks though!
I would love to see you guys compete in another enduro race with a competitive bike. I’d watch that all day.
Take some scalps!
The master cylinder on my 748 did exactly the same thing, had to replace it with a new one as they don’t do a rebuild kit
Fair play to you, you were going good, pitty the front brake went on you. It wanted some lower gearing on it as well looked like it was struggling a bit on the top end. But good on you. Another top video, keep them coming. 👍👍👍👍
That was awesome! Living the dream!
Loving the Speedo
Gutted, looked brilliant fun, just shows you can have all the power but a decent handling bike is key
What was the issue?
Why it stoped breaking? 🤔
How you can prevent this issue?
I can relate to this, I was also thinking whilst going flat out, valves bouncing down the back straight at Aragon on my older gsx1100, thinking this crank is 30 years old fingers crossed. ha ha.
Enjoyable though eh chaps.
I use to in WERA years ago in 1986' not cost effective at ALL !!!! Cost twice a much for the year, parts, body etc.
Went back to my my tried and tested GSXR !!! : D
Zero mileage was put on the bike lol speed not working
Feeling like a Sunday Ride?! I resemble that remark!!
The Top Gear/Grand Tour of Motorcycles. ❤
The brakeless 916 in stunning yellow would have definitely taken some scalps😎 You guys yet again, take it to the boys with their v.expensive toys!
we had a 4hr endurance race this year. one yamaha r6 and My teams G1 sv650 calved but 2 the 2 Ducks made it. I think James H. was there too.
We won our club endurance championship two years on the trot running a complete bone stock 1999 Yamaha R6 with a dodgy transmission. We have taken many scalps of many modern machines. However, you lads were on a 916, and therein lies your problem.
Ah well. No oil all over the place. And yeah, you were going ok 👍😊 Doocardi power!! 👊
Maybe a bike like this in the budget bike battle?
New rcs and slicks and your good to go 👍👍 awesome content as per usual 👌🏻👌🏻
Still in one piece, just need some new shorts and you'll be reet.
Nice effort and from a journalistic/media point of view, what a cool idea!!
Well done guys, Still the best "magazine" on the market. You've got to fix it and try again though, I'd love to see you embarrass some of those superbikes.
That was bloody dangerous 😳
Endurance race on an old bike without upgraded brakes!
That corner speed is bloody impressive 🙌
That 916 is awesome, especially in yellow. Were these problems inherent in the brakes on the 916 or is this due to age? Aren't they relatively simple involving a master cylinder, brake lines, calipers and pads? I just got my 2011 Kawasaki Concours 14 (1400GTR) out for the season and, in the garage, was surprised that the lever pulled right to the grip. There is more to the brakes on the Concours as it has ABS and linked braking with lines running under the tank and seat on the way to the front wheel. On top of that, Kawasaki chose to use rubber lines for much of it. Fortunately, it seems that there was just some air in the master cylinder. Honda's linked braking system from a few years ago was even worse with proportioning valves and extra master cylinders worked in. How will these new marvels with ABS and various ways to link brakes hold up 25 years from now if something as relatively simple as the 916 fails? Love your channel.
Well. Can't ride even.. that's scary, you know.
Good decision! Lets face it.. you not really track guys. BBBB suits you so much better. Stay on safe side, always ride responsibly!!🍻💙
Was really hoping you guys would have better luck. Get it sorted and get back to it, great video!
Oh, and I was shocked to see a helmet mounted camera during a race, none of my local orgs allow it, seems like that one doesn’t either. Would love to see some nice bike mounted footage to give me a reference on where to put my GoPro
Poor old Fagan , will he ever get to ride again..?
Lusted after the new 916 in college, and still do. (I rode a VF700F back then)