Hey Dan, I recently lost my Zero 1s :( and wanted to ask for a recommendation for a replacement. I actually bought the Zero 2s and found that they didn't do the same for me for vocals as the 1s, so now a bit stuck. Should I go ahead and get the 1s again? I kind of miss that magical sound the 1s had with vocals. Thanks!
Hey Dan, just wanted to thank you for recommending the Fudu. Got it today and cand put it down. Probably end game for me for some time now, fun engaging punchy bass, almost like cinema type of sound. Sweet mids and vocals, Amazing set. You have become my reference reviewer sir.
I was thinking about getting the QKZxHBB just as a basshead option, but it sounds more like a warm signature than a dry hit like the Zero, which I personally like better.
Dan, not sure you remember me still, I’ve been out of the hobby for a while. However, I’m back now and I have been binge watching your review series from the last 8 months or so. It’s such a treat, man. Your impressions are perfectly laid out. I, wholeheartedly, agree with your take on how our tastes change depending on the mood we’re in. Also, you have quite an open mind and you’re not pretentious, which is very refreshing, that’s also something I try to bring to the table in the hobby, whenever I can. Cheers, buddy. Keep up the amazing work. I’m thrilled to be back.
yeah, I feel like the brightness and the amount of that airy tone was what made the original zero stand out. now that it's gone and traded for the slightly stronger lower register, that magic is gone for me. it's still a great iem though, I just feel like if you're gonna upgrade from the original zero there are other products that can execute this task better
@@Striker-jg9kv from the demos I heard on the channel, moondrop lan sounds quite similar in tuning and it's a bit better at separating the frequencies. the driver might not be better than the zero 2's since i don't know the specifics but I'm really planning on upgrading my zeros to the lans or simgot ew200s
I don't own any of them, but from your tests I like the Zero2 best of all. HBB has vocals that are muddy. OG Zero is a little too sizzly... Zero2 hits my sensibilities best. To me vocals are the ultimate test of an IEM... but I realize many don't care that much about natural sounding vocals. Listening with Olina SE. Will listen with P5 later tonight.
Will you review Truthear Gate and Kinera wyvern abyss? Amazing work you do for all of us, as someone who is not sure what to get as first iems, now i know i like something similar to Zero 1
Zero 2 has a new driver, but I don't notice much improvement other than the bass is bassier. I genuinely don't know what driver IEM uses and what the specs are but since I already have QKZ HBB and Zero 1, just use both for specialized IEM best for certain music and I don't see Zero:2 can compete for being the middle man if people already own both.
Now the Kahn is just glorious. It loses a tad bit of thickness that the QKZ HBB has, but gains mid details and has 99 percent of the Zero's higher crystalization. The Zero 2 is just muted everywhere. The Kahn somehow has more Slam than the QKZ HBB. Much more satisfying.
i own and love the zero1 and the zero2, after watching your videos i bought the QKZ HBB, and i absolutely love it. i love both the zero2 and the HBB but i notice that the HBB has way more detail in the mids and lows, there are entire instruments that i dont hear on the zero2's that the HBB presents in a very pleasing way. its fun to go back and forth and discover new stuff on the HBB, both are incredible but the zero2 just feels like its lacking overall detail when you switch between different sets.
I think the Zero 2 takes the place of the HBB QKZ, having listened to both. Zero 2 has much more detail and resolution than the Qkz but not as much as the OG Zero, which wins on overall clarity. I am keeping both Zeros and returning the Qkz.
Those two can't be compared, unless you want to say the Zero2 is HBB x QKZ without the bass. I would take the Zero2 over the original Zero, but I enjoy bass.
The HBB's are such a pleasant set. The Zero 2 is like halfway there. Not a fair comparison with warmth as the focus. I think detail wise the Zero 2 is a step back from the original Zero. But the Zero is just a tad too sterile. But the Zero 2 is less sterile but somehow less detailed and then lacking the warmth that the HBB has? Yeah... hmmm!
In search of the perfect budget IEM , I bought the OG Zero , the Zero 2 , the Moondrop Chu2 , and the KBear KS2 . I wound up keeping the Zero 2's - the Chu2's were 2nd place, sounding a bit like the mighty HBB Khan's but not quite getting there ( at all lol ) imo .
Fantastic comparison! I love your passion for the hobby. I own the Zero 2’s - which are an excellent set. They have made me very curious to try out the original Zeros.
I finally got the Zeros and have had some time with them. They are a great set that leans bright. In my personal opinion I prefer the Zero 2's. They have a much fuller sound with better base while still sounding clear in the treble region. The Zero has very slightly better treble and is also slightly more airy. Both are excellent for the price paid. I would ultimately say if you prefer a more treble focused sound then go with the Zero. If however you prefer a fuller sound then go with the Zero 2's. Hope this helps!
The Khan is my all time favorite but I think the Zero2 sounds interesting. The original Zero just sounds too thin/ anemic for my tastes. Great review Dan, keep up the good work!
I’m still waiting for my Zero 2 to arrive. I listened to the OG Zero one but since I’m a basshead kinda guy I bought the QKZxHBB instead. Can’t wait to compare it to Zero 2 whenever its gonna arrive.
@@FicoOl8998 finally got to do the A & B test. I found that the Zero2 fits more shallow in my ear canal compared to the QKZ. It also have smaller shell so it doesnt stick out much from my ear. Sound wise I prefer the Zero2 since it sounded more correct to my ear. But bass dept QKZ still win hands down. (i used the same cable(not the stock ones) for the test, and need to crank more vol for Zero2 since it does have higher impedance compared to QKZ. As for comparison to the Zero1 sound wise it solved the shoutiness by shoving more bass if that makes senses 🤣 The details is still there but a bit toned down.
@@Onigiriz thanks for your reply! I have zero 1 and yeah it's too bright and really bass lacking but it's my first iem and I have to say it's the best sound I have heard compared to other mainstream brands
When I'm listening to these on my Abyss MR they sound like $3k IEMs lol! Just curious, have you ever thought of doing all this with Headphones as well? Keep it up, love the reviews.
actuality nothing beats a ns3 in musicality and engagment, which is what music is for :) otherwise the qoa gimlet and hiby beans are respectively for more Details and "Audiophile"/hifi experiences.. for a contrast.
Would you do a sound demo for the KZ Castor silver/harman? Just got these set a while ago and I was skeptical at first (since it's KZ) but they're quite great for the price.
Hi dan, can you review or provide a sound demo for Tin HIFI C0? Because this IEM is really close to the IEF Neutral 2023 Target, and it has the Airy sounding, best IEM under $20 in my opinion. *The stock eartips & cable is garbage.
Hey Dan, Ive listened to most of your demos. Each IEM on a different browser tab. That way it is easy to A/B with the same track. So far I didnt hear anything that surpasses Timeless in separation and detail except for the very expensive ones. The ones in the price range of Timeless doesnt beat it still. Am I right?
7hz is more refence tuned than many kilobackd out there.If you compare its pink noise graphs its better than MANY famous studio headphones be sure about that.With two-three very small adjustments its almost PERFECT ( 1 db less bass e tad more 10 khz and air..etc)
Unfortunately im listening to this with open ear headphones 😢 Theyre okay. Soundpeats GoFree 2. They're okay. Testing out this Open Ear thing. Definitely not a bass head thing with this particular pair. But being able to hear everything around tou clearly and un- artificially is a big plus. Will test the Soundcore versions next. Little pricier but have heard good things about their bass response.
I prefer the Ziigaat Nuo to both Zeros. This includes the Wan'er too QKZxHBB is a different measure being bass dominant. Khan is playing in a different league, but requires power to run to its potential
@@joshuasantoso556In probably the overall balance really, when Wan'er is very mid&vocal forward. But I feel the best aspect of the Nuo is within the depth and layering, where it punches far above its price point
had the Zero OG paired it with final type E tips and i really love the tuning. but my ears just can't stand the fitting. after 2 songs i feel pain in my ears. maybe because i like deep insertion so the angle presses my ear bone
It's strange that, despite being a bit older and having some hearing loss (since childhood), I am very treble sensitive. That said, the OG Zero sounds pretty mediocre to me... the best way I can describe is that it sounds like it's interlaced... like every other frequency is missing. So overall it sounds ok, but is like a 22Khz recording. Anyway, the Zero2 is much better and far less grating. Even in these examples I hear the same difference as I do with my IEMs (listening via my Focals). I mostly listen to rock/metal, so grating highs is something I can't stand. The Zeros are getting completely replaced with the 2's.
Vocal sound like 💩 ; sound not realistic 😔, cable is low quality! Why don't they use just 2 dollar 💵 for cable!? My experience is not good with zero 2!!!! Sorry! if i hurts anyone.
thank you, because of you I clean up again my ZVX which is sitting dusty. I owned it and the Zero OG. with ZVX we will get more forward mids, more pronounce bass, and brighter sound, and it's lucky I don't waste it! from now on the ZVX will be my Zero OG companion.
additional info, song as reference used is AHa-Hunting High and Low (2015 remastered version). playing volume adjustment: with Zero OG +2 clicks, with ZVX -2 clicks, then you'll get approximately the same loudness level 😉😘😚
you seem to not know much about iems, just because is "chifi" and is 20$ makes it bad? there are much more expensive iems that have worse tuning and overall worse price to perfomance ratio so what u just said makes no sense
@@petroskoutsakis9828 I'm talking with the same tuning, obviously bad tuning is something you'd avoid. For example, truthear hexa has similar graph as blessing 2 but blessing 2 is just better, with the same tonality higher price is just better because of technicalities, which chifi can't get below 100$.
@@petroskoutsakis9828 there are also many 20$ IEMs with bad to performance ratio, market is moving very fast but 20$ just can't beat above 200$ given similar tuning
@@VSN-wb2ly well these measure better on distortion and group delay than any multi-driver iem so the only way those might sound better is tuning. Have you actuelly compared them? Cognitive bias is also very strong when you know a set is much more expensive.
Second (DEMOS) Channel:
ruclips.net/channel/UCxLp7pivSM4oioUY1ojsgXA
Keep-up the comparison videos, Daniel!
Hey Dan, I recently lost my Zero 1s :( and wanted to ask for a recommendation for a replacement. I actually bought the Zero 2s and found that they didn't do the same for me for vocals as the 1s, so now a bit stuck.
Should I go ahead and get the 1s again? I kind of miss that magical sound the 1s had with vocals. Thanks!
@@hmf33 I prefer the 1’s. So if I lost them I would get them again over the zero 2
@@dansaudioreviews thanks for this 👍
Hey Dan. I LOVE your analysis of these iems. Also love the change up in your demo tracks. Keep up the great work!!!
Loved that you changed the playlist, and this one is great too! 👏
Seems like the KSC75 vs KPH30i arguement all over again. Both great options, with passionate opinions on both sides.
Hey Dan, just wanted to thank you for recommending the Fudu. Got it today and cand put it down. Probably end game for me for some time now, fun engaging punchy bass, almost like cinema type of sound. Sweet mids and vocals, Amazing set. You have become my reference reviewer sir.
Thank you for the trust. Thank you for sharing your likewise enjoyment 🙇🏻♂️
Your kind words and time to share and validate my opinions means a lot ✌🏻
Have the OG Zero, 2 and HBB. Agree with your take on all. But I have no regrets buying the 2, I like it.
I was thinking about getting the QKZxHBB just as a basshead option, but it sounds more like a warm signature than a dry hit like the Zero, which I personally like better.
QKZxHBB is not a basshead set.
Dan, not sure you remember me still, I’ve been out of the hobby for a while. However, I’m back now and I have been binge watching your review series from the last 8 months or so. It’s such a treat, man.
Your impressions are perfectly laid out. I, wholeheartedly, agree with your take on how our tastes change depending on the mood we’re in. Also, you have quite an open mind and you’re not pretentious, which is very refreshing, that’s also something I try to bring to the table in the hobby, whenever I can.
Cheers, buddy.
Keep up the amazing work.
I’m thrilled to be back.
yeah, I feel like the brightness and the amount of that airy tone was what made the original zero stand out. now that it's gone and traded for the slightly stronger lower register, that magic is gone for me. it's still a great iem though, I just feel like if you're gonna upgrade from the original zero there are other products that can execute this task better
And what to you suggest as better upgrade to salnote zero in place of zero 2??
@@Striker-jg9kv from the demos I heard on the channel, moondrop lan sounds quite similar in tuning and it's a bit better at separating the frequencies. the driver might not be better than the zero 2's since i don't know the specifics but I'm really planning on upgrading my zeros to the lans or simgot ew200s
Agree!
@@pickandstring it's a shame, really... crin overdone this tuning a lot and killed exactly what made the original so unique
7hz sonus?
I don't own any of them, but from your tests I like the Zero2 best of all. HBB has vocals that are muddy. OG Zero is a little too sizzly... Zero2 hits my sensibilities best. To me vocals are the ultimate test of an IEM... but I realize many don't care that much about natural sounding vocals. Listening with Olina SE. Will listen with P5 later tonight.
Will you review Truthear Gate and Kinera wyvern abyss? Amazing work you do for all of us, as someone who is not sure what to get as first iems, now i know i like something similar to Zero 1
Zero 2 has a new driver, but I don't notice much improvement other than the bass is bassier. I genuinely don't know what driver IEM uses and what the specs are but since I already have QKZ HBB and Zero 1, just use both for specialized IEM best for certain music and I don't see Zero:2 can compete for being the middle man if people already own both.
Now the Kahn is just glorious. It loses a tad bit of thickness that the QKZ HBB has, but gains mid details and has 99 percent of the Zero's higher crystalization. The Zero 2 is just muted everywhere. The Kahn somehow has more Slam than the QKZ HBB. Much more satisfying.
The Kahn was so good they had to discontinue it evidently :>(
Anyone know where they are selling any ?
Great video Dan.
Dan looking like MJ with the white glove 😂 🕺
would love to see a review for the Moondrop Aria V2
Hey Dan, love your reviews and sound demos! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Pula Pa02 next
I second this. Pula PA02 is getting hype. It looks like a better Aful P5.
i own and love the zero1 and the zero2, after watching your videos i bought the QKZ HBB, and i absolutely love it. i love both the zero2 and the HBB but i notice that the HBB has way more detail in the mids and lows, there are entire instruments that i dont hear on the zero2's that the HBB presents in a very pleasing way. its fun to go back and forth and discover new stuff on the HBB, both are incredible but the zero2 just feels like its lacking overall detail when you switch between different sets.
damn watched the video and hearing the tune test on the zero 2...the hbb part made me realize i have 0 regrets. would buy more lol
I think the Zero 2 takes the place of the HBB QKZ, having listened to both. Zero 2 has much more detail and resolution than the Qkz but not as much as the OG Zero, which wins on overall clarity. I am keeping both Zeros and returning the Qkz.
Those two can't be compared, unless you want to say the Zero2 is HBB x QKZ without the bass. I would take the Zero2 over the original Zero, but I enjoy bass.
QKZ x HBB is a basshead IEM though, not really comparable. But if you hate bass, then it's understandable.
The HBB's are such a pleasant set. The Zero 2 is like halfway there. Not a fair comparison with warmth as the focus. I think detail wise the Zero 2 is a step back from the original Zero. But the Zero is just a tad too sterile. But the Zero 2 is less sterile but somehow less detailed and then lacking the warmth that the HBB has? Yeah... hmmm!
In search of the perfect budget IEM , I bought the OG Zero , the Zero 2 , the Moondrop Chu2 , and the KBear KS2 . I wound up keeping the Zero 2's - the Chu2's were 2nd place, sounding a bit like the mighty HBB Khan's but not quite getting there ( at all lol ) imo .
Do you have plan to review qkz hades? Waiting for your suggestion for this❤
Hi, bro! Will you do demo of NiceHCK F1 Pro? Good planars for price!
Fantastic comparison! I love your passion for the hobby. I own the Zero 2’s - which are an excellent set. They have made me very curious to try out the original Zeros.
owned the OG still considering weather to get the 2 or not.
@@woka_kawanua-hw2hj I ordered the original Zero yesterday. I am so excited to try it out!
@@UFO-Audio , I am so curious to hear your experience. let us know your take.
@@woka_kawanua-hw2hj Will do!
I finally got the Zeros and have had some time with them. They are a great set that leans bright. In my personal opinion I prefer the Zero 2's. They have a much fuller sound with better base while still sounding clear in the treble region. The Zero has very slightly better treble and is also slightly more airy. Both are excellent for the price paid. I would ultimately say if you prefer a more treble focused sound then go with the Zero. If however you prefer a fuller sound then go with the Zero 2's. Hope this helps!
The Khan is my all time favorite but I think the Zero2 sounds interesting. The original Zero just sounds too thin/ anemic for my tastes. Great review Dan, keep up the good work!
I’m still waiting for my Zero 2 to arrive.
I listened to the OG Zero one but since I’m a basshead kinda guy I bought the QKZxHBB instead. Can’t wait to compare it to Zero 2 whenever its gonna arrive.
Please let me know how is it compared to zero one if you can it would help a lot
@@FicoOl8998 finally got to do the A & B test.
I found that the Zero2 fits more shallow in my ear canal compared to the QKZ.
It also have smaller shell so it doesnt stick out much from my ear. Sound wise I prefer the Zero2 since it sounded more correct to my ear. But bass dept QKZ still win hands down.
(i used the same cable(not the stock ones) for the test, and need to crank more vol for Zero2 since it does have higher impedance compared to QKZ.
As for comparison to the Zero1 sound wise it solved the shoutiness by shoving more bass if that makes senses 🤣
The details is still there but a bit toned down.
@@Onigiriz thanks for your reply!
I have zero 1 and yeah it's too bright and really bass lacking but it's my first iem and I have to say it's the best sound I have heard compared to other mainstream brands
Hello Dan I will try to ask here, do you like the nannas? 😊
Dan , so far of yours this is the video that I love ❤️ the most , btw, merry x'mas 🎄🎁🦌 and happy new year 🎊 2024.
When I'm listening to these on my Abyss MR they sound like $3k IEMs lol! Just curious, have you ever thought of doing all this with Headphones as well? Keep it up, love the reviews.
I want to. But I can’t afford the proper mics.
Just curious, how much does a setup like that cost? Assuming it's pretty pricey.@@dansaudioreviews
@@Donatosindat least $800, if not almost $1500-2000 (depends on what mics I actually would land on choosing).
actuality nothing beats a ns3 in musicality and engagment, which is what music is for :) otherwise the qoa gimlet and hiby beans are respectively for more Details and "Audiophile"/hifi experiences.. for a contrast.
At first i thought u trying implemented the late white jackson style with that 1 side white glove
Would you do a sound demo for the KZ Castor silver/harman? Just got these set a while ago and I was skeptical at first (since it's KZ) but they're quite great for the price.
Hi dan, can you review or provide a sound demo for Tin HIFI C0? Because this IEM is really close to the IEF Neutral 2023 Target, and it has the Airy sounding, best IEM under $20 in my opinion.
*The stock eartips & cable is garbage.
Hey Dan, Ive listened to most of your demos. Each IEM on a different browser tab. That way it is easy to A/B with the same track.
So far I didnt hear anything that surpasses Timeless in separation and detail except for the very expensive ones.
The ones in the price range of Timeless doesnt beat it still. Am I right?
My vote goes to the Zero 2, excellent review Dan.
What are your thoughts on the Fatfreq Maestro mini and the Fatfreq Scarlett mini?
Hi, do you plan to review Thie Audio Hype 4, Oriveti OD200, Final A5000 or Truthear Nova in coming days/weeks ?
Moondrop Chu 2 please
I fumbled and got the Zero 2 cuz the orange metal plate looked so good lol
7hz is more refence tuned than many kilobackd out there.If you compare its pink noise graphs its better than MANY famous studio headphones be sure about that.With two-three very small adjustments its almost PERFECT ( 1 db less bass e tad more 10 khz and air..etc)
I really wanna try a clear bright iem
Poderia fazer um review do zero 2 vs chu 2 😅
Please check the ziigaat nuo.
And give a sound test like this.
zero 2 sounds more thick than OGs
Unfortunately im listening to this with open ear headphones 😢 Theyre okay. Soundpeats GoFree 2. They're okay. Testing out this Open Ear thing. Definitely not a bass head thing with this particular pair. But being able to hear everything around tou clearly and un- artificially is a big plus. Will test the Soundcore versions next. Little pricier but have heard good things about their bass response.
thanks man
💙
holy shit i actually like the og zero on 2nd track
Khan Has Less Room/Airy Ness like less Windy or Light. Khan is heavy as compared to Zero's
Listening Khan More may lead to Claustrophobic
The khan is discontinued i think
I prefer the Ziigaat Nuo to both Zeros. This includes the Wan'er too
QKZxHBB is a different measure being bass dominant.
Khan is playing in a different league, but requires power to run to its potential
how is the Nuo's sound compared to Wan'er?
@@joshuasantoso556In probably the overall balance really, when Wan'er is very mid&vocal forward. But I feel the best aspect of the Nuo is within the depth and layering, where it punches far above its price point
We need the zero red review
Is there any difference in quality when you change cables or foams ? Thank you.
had the Zero OG paired it with final type E tips and i really love the tuning. but my ears just can't stand the fitting. after 2 songs i feel pain in my ears. maybe because i like deep insertion so the angle presses my ear bone
rotating it counter-clockwise for the left and clockwise for the right relieves the pressure
Did u have any issues with the fit of the zero 2s?
Hey Dan please review Nice HCK f1 pro
which one do you recommend Zero 2 or Blon Z300?
i have zero 2 and it sounds very good and its also very easy to eq cuz it has no dips and peaks
Gzzz
It's strange that, despite being a bit older and having some hearing loss (since childhood), I am very treble sensitive. That said, the OG Zero sounds pretty mediocre to me... the best way I can describe is that it sounds like it's interlaced... like every other frequency is missing. So overall it sounds ok, but is like a 22Khz recording.
Anyway, the Zero2 is much better and far less grating. Even in these examples I hear the same difference as I do with my IEMs (listening via my Focals). I mostly listen to rock/metal, so grating highs is something I can't stand. The Zeros are getting completely replaced with the 2's.
Listening to this video from YT, and using a dongle doc and EM6L iems 😊
Dude we need NOVA
You guys are better in terms of warm sound and BASS
qkz x hbbvs
kz zsn pro x
Qkz hbb, kz zsn pro has punch but a bit brighter than qkz hbb.
I have both, and i prefer qkz hbb in terms of my playlist
Hbb likes edm most
i prefer zero2, first zero is to shap and too flavor.
not natural sound should be for me.
The Zero has More Punchy bass than Zero 2. like the Impact is better in Zero than Zero 2. The Zero 2 has lose some of that Impact bass.
NOT a fan of the QKZ...
Vocal sound like 💩 ; sound not realistic 😔, cable is low quality! Why don't they use just 2 dollar 💵 for cable!?
My experience is not good with zero 2!!!!
Sorry! if i hurts anyone.
even kz zvx sounds better than zero 2
Do you own both of it?
thank you, because of you I clean up again my ZVX which is sitting dusty. I owned it and the Zero OG. with ZVX we will get more forward mids, more pronounce bass, and brighter sound, and it's lucky I don't waste it! from now on the ZVX will be my Zero OG companion.
additional info, song as reference used is AHa-Hunting High and Low (2015 remastered version). playing volume adjustment: with Zero OG +2 clicks, with ZVX -2 clicks, then you'll get approximately the same loudness level 😉😘😚
A chifi is still a chifi, 20$ is still 20$.
you seem to not know much about iems, just because is "chifi" and is 20$ makes it bad? there are much more expensive iems that have worse tuning and overall worse price to perfomance ratio so what u just said makes no sense
@@petroskoutsakis9828 I'm talking with the same tuning, obviously bad tuning is something you'd avoid.
For example, truthear hexa has similar graph as blessing 2 but blessing 2 is just better, with the same tonality higher price is just better because of technicalities, which chifi can't get below 100$.
@@petroskoutsakis9828 there are also many 20$ IEMs with bad to performance ratio, market is moving very fast but 20$ just can't beat above 200$ given similar tuning
@@VSN-wb2ly well these measure better on distortion and group delay than any multi-driver iem so the only way those might sound better is tuning. Have you actuelly compared them? Cognitive bias is also very strong when you know a set is much more expensive.
Man you saved me so much money! Then again it makes me realize how much I could buy correctly!😂 let me find ur link for the z2s and hbb ..
hey dan iam really intererested with moondrop may, do you think it was good? or should i just grab a fudu or ea500