SUPER SONIC vs HYPER KNUCKLES! | Sonic Speed Reading
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Been thinking a lot about Super forms, so it's about time we went back to Archie to checkout the famous Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles one-shot special!
You team yellow or team pink??
Oh this is happening! We’re getting closer and closer to the infamous Ken Penders’ Knuckles comic run! Nick can’t hide from it forever
I would.. it's like when one of my favorite cartoon reviewers skipped right over any mention of John K for Ren and Stimpy
*Ken Penders is approaching....*
@@calamario8i hope he trips as he approaches and smashes his skull into a fine dust
@@cherricake1796 Then perhaps Sega/Ian could salvage the _good_ ideas Penders had (Julie-su was always one of my favorites and I'd love for a re-imagining of her to be able to appear again)
I can’t wait till the return of Enerjak
There is something really delightful in seeing these two superpowered, invincible, immortal beings just yelling schoolyard insults and yanking each other's hair.
I generally prefer things to have an actual, you know, story, but as I get older I really appreciate the vibe of the early Archie run. They really encapsulate an era of sincere, goofy fun that you just don't see anymore.
One thing I do love about the Archie Super forms is that they all have unique adjectives for them. You got Super Sonic, Hyper Knuckles, Turbo Tails, Master Mogul, Perfect Chaos, it was cool. Kinda wish they kept that for some of the characters. Like instead of Super and Hyper Knuckles, we get Hyper and Ultimate Knuckles. Instead of Super Mighty, we get All Mighty. Instead of Super Ray, we get Ultra Ray, etc.
I love the variety SO much.
All Mighty is dope man great name
Yeah, really freaking sad that the only character they bothered doing this for canonically is Burning Blaze. And Burning Blaze isn't even a clever pun like Super Sonic, it's just an alliteration that literally translates to "Fire on fire". And some versions of this transformation like the Archie one aren't even actually on fire, at least that's something IDW fixed.
@@elijahbruno2814 ALL MIGHT
Supreme Shadow sounds badass
Knuckles running across the ground on his hands is the exact type of insane energy we need for fight moves in this series.
I wonder how the Chaotix of the games/IDW would react to meeting their pre-SGW Archie counterparts, mainly in that Knuckles leads the Chaotix.
Unrelated but I had this idea where if Julie-Su existed in Sonic Boom, she and Knuckles would have a relationship akin to Nicole and Richard from Gumball where she’d love Knuckles in spite of his idiocy.
Your thoughts are all pretty much the exact same I had, to being excited for the comic, to the funny little jokes and interludes, to being a little disappointed in the fight and confused by the elements inside the zone, to still being happy it happened, everything. This comic was great and it was amazing to revisit it here now.
I’m assuming the emeralds are gray on the cover because their energy is getting absorbed by Sonic and Knuckles. You can see a green aura around the emeralds, showing their power getting sapped away.
Yeah! I love to hear talk about Archie Sonic comics from people who were consuming them when they were relevant. Comics have changed a lot over the years and I feel like people brush off this run a little too much. Quality could have definitely been better, but I love how insane and experimental they got. The wild artwork and ideas sparked all sorts of creative stuff in my head, and sometimes that's more valuable than a well polished take on an existing formula. Granted Archie Sonic did plenty of crappy takes on existing formulas, but when they kick it up it's so much fun.
I'm with Knuckles on this one.
*Mouth punch* "Okay lets have a non-violent discussion."
Still one of my favorite issues, even after all these years. Absolutely love the art and how many creative ways they have these 2 pummel each other.
Watching this, I'm impressed that Knuckles has been portrayed as Sonic's reliable and friendly rival again in recent years. I think it would be a good idea to give him his own series independent of Sonic, like Donkey Kong.
I forgot how much beef Sonic and Knuckles in the early Archie comics. Them mfs hated each other 😂
Word, so much hate for each other
Can we just talk about the fact that knuckles just so happen to run into a wall that just so happen to have a tiny door that just so happen to have the exact book that knuckles needed
"4 to 1 they're in a fight by page 6."
**Page 6, last panel, Sonic punches Knuckles**
I had this theory that the climax of the fight where the zone was destroyed was actually an early, raw and unrefined version of what would later be called Chaos Control.
i love how it feels like Mighty's nose gets longer every panel
Back in the day, it was easier to accept the inaccuracies of how the the Super forms looked, how the special zone looked, and other details. Because not every kid was capable of beating the Genesis games, especially if you weren't using a Game Genie or any cheats. You might get to see Super Sonic or Hyper Knuckles maybe once (might not even be on your copy of the game, might be on a friend's copy or something), and you'd have hazy memories of it at best by the time you picked up the comic. There was no internet. No one sharing game sprites. No one talking about the finer details. You could still notice things, like the Emeralds being multicolored in the games and not all green, but it was still a lot easier to enjoy and accept whatever the Archie comics were doings.
"I don't see any problems doing with my hands what the fastest guy in the world does with his feet."--Sonic Boom Knuckles while remembering this: 14:20
As soon as I heard the Sonic & Knuckles invincibility theme, I knew it was going to be a good video.
I real love your analyses. Going into depth, while criticizing and praising. It gives me more insight into these things. It was cool and fun to just see Sonic and Knuckles duke it out. I love their friendship nowadays, but the old stuff still has wonderful charm.
I would really like to see something about Archie Amy. It felt like she was undermined a lot, but also some good moments. Wish they didn't scrap her potential story arc. But this is just one idea. Just do you, dude.
Can't wait until he gets to the wild nonsense of the Ken Penders Knuckles stuff. As that *"take a look"* panel is just great lol 😅
Considering Swatbots appeared in Sonic Chronicles I wonder if Sega would let the idw team use them for like classic stories or something.
Sega doesn't use characters from Archie or the old cartoons for "reasons" anymore so probably not.
@@justinarzola4584Could the Ken Penders situation have went better so he wouldn't of been so angry? He was replaced by Ian Flynn in 2006 and got angry
A lot of the references in Sonic Chronicles were references for the sake of references unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, they dug really deep for some of this stuff, such as being the first game to have Amy use her cards as a part of her moveset way before their mention in the CD manual became the cool thing to reference, but a lot of the minor references don't really mean anything. Cosmo's sapling is present in Tails' lab too, that doesn't mean SEGA wants to canonize Sonic X.
Yo nick sorry that this isn’t related to the video but your vids are great and you got me into reading the entire idw series which I loved. Thanks for everything and Imma watch the vid now.
I remember this comic fondly, it was the first comic book I ever owned
I never grew up with the Archie comics since those were before my time. (Although I do keep up with the IDW Comics.) So I like watching these speed reading videos on them to see what I’ve been missing.
you do it would be easier if you just go to read all Comics and then look up the Archie Comics sense that’s where all of them are stored
Thanks Nick! You bring back old memories of Archie sonic comics days in the early 90s.😊
Meanwhile, twenty-ish years later Batman vs Superman's fight ends when the name "Martha" is mentioned. Green rocks were also involved, and nobody in the audience is satisfied with the outcome.
Id really like if you left IDW alone for a bit to let it get ahead and do Archie/Fleetway in the meantime of that
NO! well I would be fine with Archie but I only read fleetway for well fleetway super sonic
@@chilidogsonic6774but it's really good
Yes please !!!!
I want some1 to explain Archie sonic to me like I'm a 2 year old.
@@bluebellsforever im saying dis cause he said he was interested in doing Archie as well. Ofc i could always reread the comics myself like I’ve already done but ion kno, i js like his vids ig
@@Champ_Jamal well, I watched crystal maiden's videos on the sonic comics but she was really negative when Ian Flynn took over.
But I did read all the comics and specials before issue 57.
Ya know, this is kinda like that time when Shadow and Knuckles fought in the Archie comics. Different circumstances, but one was just as stubborn as the other and both didn't want to talk it out. All it took was that first punch.
This was one of my favorite comics back in the day. I would love for this fight to be redone with more fight scenes added. That superpowered throwdown blew my mind and I love the fact that Knuckles used his game superform and I really wish his superform was used more or at least used in the IDW comics.
The emeralds on the cover are probably become depleted of their power dew to both of them transforming, who knows in the comic's since they were all over the place but I loved them as a kid.
This comic forever cursed me with the expectation that not only should Super Knuckles be pink, but his dreads should be TWICE AS LONG.
This is my 1 million time hearing "This video is brought to you by square space"
Finally, something I'm familiar with. I don't read IDW. I grew up with Archie.
This is the first archie sonic cover for sonic having his spikes up
As a 10 year old kid, my first Sonic Comic was Archie Comic #40. So I missed Triple Trouble, Sonic vs Knuckles, Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles, and Mecha Madness. I remember having to use an in comic order form to send in a money order for all of them. Lol good times. Mecha Madness was my favorite but Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles was sooooo Hype. I want Spaz’s autograph before he’s gone!!!
9:16 this zone looks so cool
One of my biggest motives in reading these comics has, of all things, been watching your videos. I just want to watch your vids without fear of spoilers- so I must consume the entire archie such that I cannot be spoiled on anything.
Anyway, love your stuff, and I love these comics. Just about to get to the fourth section of the reading guide, "1999-2003: Robotnik's Return," and eventually I'll be able to watch all your videos without fear lol.
Always found it odd that Super Sonic’s quills didn’t stand up, since in his first debut, issue 4, they do. But I have always been a fan of there being more than seven Chaos Emeralds, and I really like all the Emeralds being green
I've been looking forward to you covering this. Absolutely love this series
"Crash Of The Titans."
I'm sorry, WHAT?
Awesome video! I had such fond memories of reading the Archie Comics as a kid and this was one of the stories I read a lot as a kid! I can't wait to see you tackle the Mecha Sally arc down the road!
I litterally got this comic sealed with the bonus comic on a swap meet yesterday, don't wanna open it, that's why I'm here
Take a shot evertime you upload a video sponsored by squarespace
Two shots a month baby
I still have this comic
That legal department bit hits a lot differently now
I didn't have too many Archie Sonic books as a kid, but I did have this one, and read it all the time, cuz Super Sonic is cool!
The Sonic Select series was my introduction to the Sonic Comics and Sonic Select 2 was the first ever comic I owned, with this very story being the first one I saw. It was awesome and all I wanted. Read it over again and again.
Me too! I got SS2 from Barnes and Noble with a birthday gift card, and then spent the rest of my childhood obsessing over the series
Yeah the Inaccuracy was Knuckles going Hyper using the Chaos Emeralds as Hyper can only be obtained by the Super Emeralds being in unison with the Master Emerald
He didn’t go hyper, he went super. In Archie Knuckles calls his super form hyper to differentiate himself from Sonic.
I'm suprised, I wasn't expecting an Archie video but I'm glad it's on an issue that I own! I don't mean to be picky, but the emeralds on the cover look less Grey and more like a combination of the green, cyan and white emeralds from the games. The material the cover and pages are made of were printed more like a newspaper or a paper back book, so there isn't a glossy finish like new-er comics. I'm sure the quality has degraded and the paper isn't as white now, but the colors are definitely darker/less saturated than the updated "Sonic Select" scanned print. Sorry for long comment, but it's one of my most Valuable comics and most favorite sonic anything. Thank you for doing such a nice video about this weird, hype, goofy story
fun fact: for my, i wanna say 5th birthday, i had the cover of this comic on my cake!
This story Archie Sonic Comics so hard. The epic battle between Super Sonic and Super Knuckles boils down to Archie Sonic being an absolute troll.
This was a good fight…
Yes more Archie Sonic
We haven't seen super forms clash?... 9runs through all the modern games in head)... huh, no I guess we don't. Doesn't help they don't want anyone beyond hedgehogs to have super forms, but only thing coming to mind is Sonic and Shadow, but that was in Sonic X, an anime, even if based off the Adventure games that doesn't happen in any games. Super weird to think about, but I guess makes sense, super forms 9and by extension hyper) are only from inate goodness of chaos energy. Like Perfect Chaos or Metal Overlord... I guess coooould count? Because they're using negative energy, but it is a monsterous form, not super, and... well by extension that's kind of werehog Sonic.
There is 1 game I can think of... but it involves spoilers... only say Triple Trouble 16 bit Remake, play it, free, super fun, easy to get and play, Game Jolt, or if you want playthroughs of it there are many out there.
Huh, interesting plot,
Hm, i wonder how something like this would be done nowadays?
I didn't get to grow up with archie but after and I got into it, fell in love with it, and hate some parts of it but overall love it.
Yes my favorite super special comic super sonic vs hype knuckles!!!!! lol super excited for this. Got the reissue version(original version got destroyed by some kids they parent was friends to my late grandma and no I never got the money back to get it again back doing that time)
Spaz was actually the biggest Sonic fan on the Archie team i think, so he probably would've known how to do a good Sonic background.
Groovy fight.
One of my favorite issues actually.
Hyper Knuckles - "Yellow!!"
Super Sonic - "Pink!!"
hey i have this story! This one is in one of the Sonic Select volumes (2, I think)
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah , i waited for so long for you to get into archie sonic , you re viewed some comics from them despit still not tackling the begenning and what came after of early archie sonic but i'm glad you tackled this one
Heard a lot of love for this comic. 💙❤️
I know this isn't connected to the theme with this video, but Being honest. Both Nails (F.Y.I. I'm nails is actually metal tails, I wanna call him nails because, hey, if the people who made Sonic Prime can call tails' pirate dimension counter part a word related to that world, then by bogiddy am I gonna call metal tails nails because nails rymes with tails because tails also rymes with sails) and Mamy (which of course I'm refering to metal amy) don't seem to be fitting the killer robot theme that we see in monic and Muckles.
8:05 xD
Aw yeah, this is happenin'!
Game apologies what happened to that klanoa web comic and klanoa 2 video? You promised
Both Nails and Mamy look like protecter robots built by tails, and not killer robots built by Egg-man. Also metal tails has hedgehog eyes. And they don't look like monic's eyes, they look more like sonic's eyes! Don't worry, they eyes of Nails and Mamy are the only things about their designs that I don't like.
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Finally being waiting for this one . 👍
Ah yes, Super forms that don't have to contain "Super" in their names. Too bad we didn't get Mighty BEAST or "Orange Tails."
the music in this video sounds pretty good.. if only there was a music list
thanks for the bed time story
oh, i've actually read this one!
Our hero, ladies and gentlemen.
Sonic is such an asshole for no reason
Go read the Fleetway comics. He’s even worse, and I love it 😂
I Still Have This Comic
Hyper knuckles? Not something like neo knuckles or white knuckles?
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Very enjoyable
Please react to the new sonic game update there’s something you’ll like
A friend of mine had this issue
20:21 fin.
Nice Video ! Sub & Big Like ! And love Sonic !
Can you look at the comic's first appearance of Super Sonic in issue #4?
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The badnik is Orbinaut, not Orbot.
Good times :3
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Archie time folks
nice vid btw
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i can say "koslowski," in it's americanized form, is pronounced "kawz-laow-skee." at least, that's what i assume, my last name is kozlowski (shhh, it's a secret)
i adore the early years of archie. the absolute mind-fuck these people are gonna receive when you tackle the knuckles bullshit 😭
i don't think im first
WAOT IM KINDA EARLY???!!!!
thank you my son
archie sonic was just heavily flawed.
*peak
No views 9 likes lol
How’s it fair to compare super sonic to hyper knuckles